285/70R17 on Stock 4 Runner? They fit! Sort of...

Not biking but it gets the bikes to the trail? 285/70R17 will fit on a stock 5th gen 4 runner!
Front Springs:
www.toyteclifts.com/catalog/p...
Rear Springs:
www.stage3motorsports.com/e30...
Tire:
www.stage3motorsports.com/NIT...
Wheel Part Number:
PTR2035110BK

[@mattnichols9158]

tks for the video i am also getting the exact same tires soon and this is making it reassuring

[@1Kantner]

Nice straightforward review. Just raised my '19 TRD OR Premium 2.5" in front and 2" in back and considering 285s. From what you've done, I may only need minor trimming in front. Thank you.

[@cruzinthruspace]

Does it have kdss

[@numbr17]

I'm glad you were honest about the fact that it doesn't really work when there is a lot of articulation during off-roading. I have seen SO many videos where people swear up and down that it is not rubbing, and they never mention that it ABSOLUTELY will if you have a lot of suspension articulation going on. This is NOT good for people that actually want to hit the trails.

[@yourdailyblockchain]

Thanks when I do mine I think I’ll do a Viper cut and body mount chop

[@crazy_wb]

Very straight forward thank you

[@IPinoyBoy69]

Exactly the build I’m going for . I was worried but after seeing this video it helped answer a lot of questions. Planning on doing the bilsteins 5100 lift of 1.75” in the front and 1” in the rear and with just a few mods and trimming it seems like I won’t have any troubles . Hopefully it’ll be alright when doing some light off roading

[@YotaHacks]

After having it on for a month and an I still have small rub at about 90% turn on the mud flap. If you're fine with that I thibk it is well worth it.

[@IPinoyBoy69]

Grant Got a GoPro how does the ride feel , does it ride kind of sluggish ?

[@YotaHacks]

@@IPinoyBoy69 Not as bad as I expected. Haven't gone up any mountain passes yet and I think that will be the real test. I went with the Nittos because they were easy to find, worked well on my heavy duty trucks, and I could get them in a C rating to help with weight. Fuel mileage was minimally impacted. Avg 18.4 instead of 18.6. Overall ride comfort has improved in my opinion. The larger tires acting as pneumatic suspension on small and harsh bumps and the heavier spring rate helping with roll and dive.

[@IPinoyBoy69]

Grant Got a GoPro that’s awesome ! I’m in between a 275 and a 285s. I was thinking of the wildpeaks in the 285s but their c rated tire is nearly 60lbs, seems really heavy imo

[@YotaHacks]

@@IPinoyBoy69 I had the Falken on my 4th gen and I liked them. They were E rated 265s but my 4th gen had the V8 so it didn't seem to mind. In my experience the Falken do run a little bit bigger than other brands. The weight is what turned me away from them again.

[@TheCoco300]

Looks awesome!! Loving the stock look

[@YotaHacks]

Thanks! That's what I was going for!

[@TheCoco300]

@@YotaHacks question, how is your gas millage now? i have 265 on mine but i am loving the way yours looking so i wana copy what you did! lol Thanks

[@YotaHacks]

@@TheCoco300 Been averaging about 18.4 on the lie-o-meter. Used to get about 18.6 with stock wheels.

[@TheCoco300]

@@YotaHacks not bad at all! Thanks.

[@synth505]

The wheel offset is the primary factor that should be considered. The more negative offset, the more likely you are to rub as this increases the wheels turning radius. If you want minimum modification to fit 285's, then I would chose a wheel with a 0 or slightly positive offset. The OE wheels have a +15 offset.

[@scoobysid04]

Trd black wheels are a -4

[@synth505]

@@scoobysid04 not on a tacoma or 4runner. Better check again.

[@scoobysid04]

@@synth505 😂 yea they are

[@synth505]

@@scoobysid04 trd wheels +4, standard wheels +15. There, you happy now?

[@WendzDarKnight08]

Stock Upper Control Arms? If so what’s the space look like from the tire to the UCA

[@rommelrivera1186]

Still sweating this tire thing. I have a 4Runner TRD Pro with the Eibach springs that give me an additional 1.6" lift in the front and 1" in the back. The TRD Pro with Fox shocks is supposed to come with a 1" lift from the factory, so in theory I have 2.6" in the front and 2" in the back if we ignore the factory rake. Regardless, I do go off-road occasionally and would hate to have any kind of rubbing. The only reason why I got a 4Runner is for its reliability and I don't want to introduce issues. With that said, 285's look hawt! I may have to settle for 275s for peace of mind.

[@nl4794]

I believe it’s actually just 1” in the front only. I also have a 2020 Pro and looking into doing the front eibach springs with a 1/4” shim on top with a toytec 2” spring in the rear. But I can’t seem to find any info on this set up. 😩 Any input would be much appreciated

[@YotaHacks]

I have a buddy with the same wheel and tire combo on a stock 18 TRD Pro with a winch bumper who clears okayish. The winch does lower the front a little. I will be testing the wheel and tire combo on a stock 2021 TRDOR soon.

[@seanroach1994]

Nice look. Any regrets? Mpg take a significant hit? I have the same vehicle, same color, and considering similar lift. Thanks for video.

[@Bananahammock88]

Of course mpg takes a hit dummie. If you wanted mpg you should have bought a Prius.

[@short21yang]

Perfect video! I have the same rims and plan to go 285 as well and your video just made me more comfortable. Btw What kind of lift did you get? Looks like Eibach springs but I could be wrong (I’m planning on getting a set but hesitant because my rear might sag due to having a ladder and roof rack). Have You notice any sagging in the rear since the lift has settled?

[@YotaHacks]

I think they are both Eibach but Toytec rebranded the front. Front: www.toyteclifts.com/catalog/product/view/id/5610/s/112-620-p-toytec-front-coil-lift-springs/ Rear: www.stage3motorsports.com/e30-82-071-01-02-10-20-4runner-eibach-1-pro-lift-kit-springs-rear.html I was scared of the same thing so that is why I went with a 1" lift in the rear. With drawers fully loaded and 3 bikes on the back it stays pretty level. When you load it down with guys, gear, and bikes it will sag. Nothing crazy though. Let me know hoe it goes if you do a similar build!

[@short21yang]

@@YotaHacks awesome thanks for the links, definitely looks like the Eibach Pro lift kit that I want. But Forsure the rear springs are. Do you notice any rubbing in the front anymore other than the minor trims you made?

[@YotaHacks]

The only thing I would recommend is actually pushing the fender liner and changing the mounting hole (Video to come) that way you don't have to go HAM with the heat gun.

[@YotaHacks]

The Eibach pro is actually a little bigger in the front. 2.75" in the front and 1" in the rear. Advertised lift on my front springs is 1.6". The Eibach kit seems like a solid kit, my concern with it was sagging being a little over an inch higher in the front. My assumption is that I would lose the rake I have right now if I used that kit with my drawer system.

[@short21yang]

@@YotaHacks with that being said, how much does your drawer system weigh (approximately). That’ll give me an idea, with my ladder and Gobi rack I’ll be pushing around an appropriate extra 100lbs or so of constant weight. If your drawer system is around that constant weight too then I’ll be comfortable. I’d prefer a natural rake and have it settle down with extra weight as well rather than leveling then having it sag in the rear

[@ivanrazo7952]

You can fit 285 with Just a leveling kit ?

[@Selianin1]

so far so good, but why would you ride 285/70 and even lift it when you'd be mainly street driving? is it necessary?

[@gregoetker1389]

How far off is the speedometer? And/or have you found a way to adjust the speedo for the tire size?

[@YotaHacks]

I've only ever checked it against some of the radar systems on the roads but it seems to be pretty on point. Maybe 1-2mph off so I'm not too concerned.

[@theirthereandtheyre2947]

Discount Tire’s size calculator says 65 will be 67.3 mph.

[@White_buffalo_4r]

We fit 285 70 r17 on stock trd off road and they fit with just removing the mud flap and just molding the front plastic. We actually had some running issues after a spacer lift install but it was an easy fix after that. very nice start on your build keep it going the roads and options are endless.

[@YotaHacks]

Yeah I drove around for a couple weeks completely stock. Just got weird looks pulling into parking spaces.

[@White_buffalo_4r]

@@YotaHacks we have had ours just over 3 years now and the list of upgrades is pretty lengthy lol.

[@binhle2088]

285 70 r17 with trd whells can fit for limeted? I’m in between a 275 and a 285 but i realy want 285:)

[@White_buffalo_4r]

@@binhle2088 on the limited the only real difference it lower valance and ground effects kits so might have to do a small bit of adjusting. On the stock offroad I had to remove the front mud flaps and mold the plastic for the front of the wheel well forward but other than that it fit.

[@Weatherby406]

Lift doesn’t help these tires fit. They can fit on a stock and then rub with a 3 inch lift. Wheels and alignment mean much more.

[@eliotrandallw]

Was this a body lift or suspension lift?

[@VietLe-gy3et]

Nice. Planning on getting a 2.5 front and 1.5 inch lift and leaning towards 285-70/17 on my 5th gen. Debating on if I should replace the upper control arms or keep the factory one.

[@YotaHacks]

I was able to get my alignment pretty close with the stock ones but you would probably see a benefit from the adjustable controls arms at 2.5"

[@VietLe-gy3et]

@@YotaHacks true. But I don't want to spend more money on something if I could get away with it.

[@YotaHacks]

@@VietLe-gy3et I feel ya. Maybe do your mods and bring it in to your trusty alignment guy and see of he is able to get the camber to a good spot. If he is, go with factory. If not, get some adjustable UCAs? Let me know what you decide!

[@VietLe-gy3et]

@@YotaHacks will do. Most likely I'll stick with factory uca. But will see when the time comes. Either way, I'm expecting to do some kind of trimming.

[@VietLe-gy3et]

@@YotaHacks I end up getting the uca from spc. I prefer to trim the bumper a little more then doing a body mount chop.

[@linchpin6761]

I'm getting the same size wheel (bfg ko2) and also doing a 3 inch lift to my sr5

[@Bari_dweebleton1]

How does it fit ? I just ordered this same exact set up.

[@linchpin6761]

@@Bari_dweebleton1 my front is 2.5 inch lift and 3inch in the rear. No spacer for the wheels. It only rubs when I do full turn backing up. Not a concern at all. Also I can fit a KO2 spare in the spare space, which is nice.

[@gemarcelo23]

1.5" front 1" rear ? What lift did you used ?

[@YotaHacks]

It's not an off-the-shelf package. Front Springs: www.toyteclifts.com/catalog/p... Rear Springs: www.stage3motorsports.com/e30...

[@justfine77777]

Much much better after the lift. I would not have had those tires on there one day without the lift.

[@YotaHacks]

What is your set up? I dove mine around a bit before I did any trimming or mods. They would only rub in parking situations.

[@justfine77777]

@@YotaHacks I pick up a 2022 TRD Off Road Premium in a couple days. It’s bone stock. I see a lot of people on KZbin doing some silly stuff. They shave the hell out of their bumper, they take heat guns to mud guards, etc. I personally would prefer to do it right. I’ll do like 3” of lift, and I’ll do like a 33” tire. I’ll do an offset on the wheel, or whatever I’d need to do, before I start chopping on bumpers and using heat guns. To each their own though.

[@fusion301]

@@justfine77777 Let me know how it goes, my 2022 TRD off Road is coming next week - doing lots of research to figure out the best lift combo with tires etc. with out going totally crazy but able to do normal off roading nothing extreme

[@Lawtypes]

@@YotaHackswas it rubbing in only full lock of the wheels??

[@bonifaciomagdiwang1697]

I think the 275/70/R17 Tire is enough for not rubbing?

[@YotaHacks]

It would probably be okay. There is about .5" difference in width and overall height. Might still require a little trimming.

[@JohnWicksPencil14]

Would some wheel spacers give you even more clearance?

[@YotaHacks]

My understanding is more offset or a wheel spacer will actually cause more rubbing. The key to this combination is the low offset TRD pro wheels that keep the wheels tucked into the fenders.

[@captaindiabetes4244]

did you have to change the Upper control arms ?

[@YotaHacks]

Stock upper control arms. I was told under 2" you don't need front doff drop or adjustable control arms. Alignment guy did not indicate any issues.

[@7150285]

@@YotaHacks there are leveling kit and people like me included running 3" spacer lift up front and 2" rear. Front no need for diff drop or an aftermarket UCA...

[@FiltzerFam]

I have 2018 sr5 with the same tire set up and have a 2” with diff drop and uca it still rubs when articulating

[@kiykim277]

Do you have wheel spacers? Not UCA rubbing issues?

[@YotaHacks]

No Wheel spacers and no UCA rubbing.

[@kiykim277]

@@YotaHacks Thank you, I have 2.5 inch lift and I want to get a 285 KM3's on my trd pro wheels. I bought spider trax just incase. Already have BMC done as well. Just wanted to see if it would rub the UCA or not. Thank you for the reply.

[@geraldjohnfernandez]

so you just put a coil spring to lift it? no aftermarket shocks or spacer lift

[@YotaHacks]

Yup, just new springs.

[@foxxmufasa]

I guess I’m weird for actually liking the rake.

[@eliotrandallw]

The suspension upgrade makes it not stock thought

[@jeremypayton8315]

Why not a 285 65 17? Same diameter, height, speed. Just .8 different in width

[@4runnerlifted4.04]

They barely fit on my gen5 with a full 3" & SPC upper control arms and offset wheels. This makes no sense to me on a stock gen5

[@YotaHacks]

Wheel choice and tire choice make a big difference. The TRD pro wheels don't have an aggressive offset and keep the tires inside the fenders which helps a lot.

[@4bvenom733]

No it won't work on 17x9 if you have wider wheels but will work on 17x8

[@YotaHacks]

Good point. That's where the TRD pro wheels come in clutch. 17×7

[@7150285]

They'll fit stock but will rub especially when off roading and articulating and turning.

[@ferlottes]

They fit like they don't fit !

[@JFroMG_YT]

“A little rub”?

[@impactproformance]

Is that stock ride height in the video?

[@YotaHacks]

At the very beginning yes. At the end it has 1.5" in the front

[@joseperezpaz9986]

I have a Trd Pro and have 0 Rubbing issues

[@DavidIJ]

Did you have to take off mudflaps? I have a TRD pro too.

[@joseperezpaz9986]

@@DavidIJ yes I did take them off only because I went off roading and one came off lol

[@nict5828]

That's not lifted?

[@YotaHacks]

Start of the video shows what rubs when it isn't lifted at all. I drove it like that without any mods for about 2 weeks and minimal rubbing. If it's your wife's mall crawler you will probably be fine with no lift. The front springs I put in are really a leveling kit and the rear springs bring me back up to stock height with my drawer system. So sorta leveled sorta lifted but not the traditional 3-2 lift.

[@nict5828]

@@YotaHacks Looks good

[@kirkrasmussen9629]

@@YotaHacks - with a TRD Pro that has the Fox Shocks and 1” lift o we stock do you feel they would still rub? All the data I can find on fitment is based on stock SR5 height not TRD stock height. Great video and thanks for posting. 👍

[@RagingBad]

You need to lift that thing 3 inches

[@davidpainter6940]

Nope full lovk your gonna rip your fenders and other crap. Also during articulation on off roading you are gonna have issues. All forums you must lift. Even with some lifts they still rub. Bmc in mist cases. It's fine if you drive slow in the mall parking lots and speed bumps though. Wescott designs has the perfect no rub lift kit

[@YotaHacks]

I've had it flexed out without an issue. Despite what armchair experts say on the forums some combos work really well. If I go by the forums I would need a 3" lift, BCM, SPC upper control arms, wheel spacers, and I'll still probably rub. I made this video to show people a combo that works well. Tried and tested by multiple rigs, all with intact fenders. It's a sad reality that most 4Runners are mall crawlers anyways.

[@davidpainter6940]

@@YotaHacks Exactly. That's what makes it so confusing. Most say it rubs some say it don't. Better off lifting to be safe I guess. Have you used it at higher speeds on bumps? I have a 4 runner pro and Wanting bigger tires just don't know which route to go. Then I seen your video....Now I'm. Back to square one. Lol

[@davidpainter6940]

@@YotaHacks If I don't get bigger tires It will be a mall crawler. Maybe it's the aggressive ko2s that rub. I see you went with out them. Never thought that the combined larger tires and aggressive profile could be the rub factor. Cool video learned something new and potentially saved me monies

[@YotaHacks]

@@davidpainter6940 my buddy has a stock Pro with a bumper and winch on the front on the same wheel and tire setup without much rubbing. Going through alternating large rolling humps I was going full lock just to try and get it to rub and didn't have much.

[@davidpainter6940]

@@YotaHacks Awesome News. I think my pro comes stock an inch higher so I should be good. Ya the winch and bumper adds lots of weight glad to hear it's not an issue. I just want to be able to overland not rock crawl. Excited!?!!Thanks for the info😊

[@alfonsoavarez7074]

So in conclusion they don’t fit. If you buy them for looks awesome. We need final and factual advice. You will need to modify your rig. Cut where it needs to be cut because if you actually use your rig for what I’d was interested for you ain’t going no where but the mall. I will stick to my 275 70 17 Ko2.