Red Faction's Destruction - Best Ever?

[@3DGECASE]

After THQ went bankrupt, the Red Faction IP and the developer Volition were sold to different companies, but one of those companies has bought the other recently, so they're together again :)

[@MaskofPoesy]

Aww.

[@maxemore]

I remember Saints row 2 had a lot of destruction in the environment, and it was made by Volition and THQ. Is it possible it used the same engine as Red faction guerilla?

[@felisasininus1784]

Maxemor The graphical engine is apparently the same. But the physics engine, not so much.

[@primuspilusfellatus6501]

@@maxemore they did plan to make saints row 3 a fully destrucible environment, but it was too much effort i reckon

[@slyceth]

LIAR NO EMOO JI YOU EMO

[@aaro9231]

When The game came out the devs said that the tech in this game is ten years ahead of it's time, and they were correct.

[@LostPhysx]

More like 20 years ahead. It is 10 years later now and the industry still fails to implement destructible environments on a level similar to RFG

[@redstar151]

@@LostPhysx becouse making a ew differwnt engine cost money big companies want to use 1 engine for all the games they release

[@gelul12]

RedSjo its lazy though

[@LostPhysx]

@@redstar151 And not only that but most of modern games aren't even built on custom engines anymore, most use the same engines like unreal, unity, etc. So it's up to those engines' creators to implement physical destruction. But then on the other hand it may be not good for such all-purpose engines...

[@SianaGearz]

@@LostPhysx Disagree, Unreal 4 at least is flexible enough that anything that can be efficiently expressed on the modern hardware, should be possible to implement in Unreal - it does take some engine engineering expertise from the game developer, but then lots of games have their own core engine rework of the engine, like if you think of Remember Me running on UE3 and implementing a completely different material model, or Bioshock on UE2 and doing pretty much the same, and lots more games probably had less obvious rework done, which unfortunately the information is often scarce. UE3 had quite a bit of overhead and wasn't really suitable to express everything, but UE4 is much tighter. This doesn't mean throwing the whole engine away, the toolchain and editor, the asset pipeline, data streaming, memory management, behaviours/scripting and state control, API adapters and portability to various systems, are tedious parts of the engine and you can draw a lot of benefit from retaining them. Also please it's not even factually correct. You open up some extensive long list of game releases for a given year, say 2018 or 2019, and see which engine they were based on, and Unity only has relevance in the indie space, and a very small minority uses Unreal. The majority are in-house codebases. I think what has happened is that back in the day, you could print tiny screenshots on the back of the packaging and impress people with bullet points. Today first thing people will pull up is a Full HD or 4K video and they'll think "oh well this looks like shit" because destructibility is a massive compromise, as you cannot retain a culling structure to optimise the rendering. Most destructible game today? EDF series - looks too ugly for most people for sure, a super niche release. They say "looks like a PS2 game". :( Most games and most engines have thus converged to use very similar solutions, regardless of the specific engine.

[@PlanterSanSama]

If I remember right the devs said in an interview that their destruction engine was so realistic that they had to hire architect because their initial structures were collapsing under it's own weight.

[@OysterBarron]

I thought they had to send their level designers on a structural engineering course in order to keep them standing.

[@Supernoxus]

They said that they "had to become architects"

[@TorQueMoD]

They didn't hire architects, they put their level designers through a crash course in drafting so they could learn how to use concepts like rebar inside the buildings to keep them stable. But close enough :P

[@cykeok3525]

@@TorQueMoD Makes sense.. level designers are artists, not structural engineers. In most games, they can just design a building based on aesthetics, and it'll always stand up without issues, even if it's not really structurally logical. But in RFG, as soon as the simulation starts, a building that isn't properly designed will creak and groan, and then collapse. I guess they needed someone to give them a quick crash course in the basics of architecture and structural engineering, so they could design structurally sound buildings :D

[@papakilo-2750]

Flex at another level

[@full_regalia8649]

I’m really surprised that today in 2019 you still have 99% of games with barely destructible environment

[@jomo3564]

Red Faction in 2001 was ahead of its time.

[@Nebulaoblivion]

It's a staggering amount of extra work. There isn't just a button that says, "add nice destruction"

[@s0ulshot]

@@Nebulaoblivion But it is the little things that matter, and environment that breaks down makes it possible to create a game based around it, and forces everyone to change the same ol' tactics in FPS games for example.

[@MaxstallfishDenton]

Jo Mo it was like crysis, with their technology

[@RedTheSniper]

What about battlefield? Bad company 2 was so full of house destruction an buildings, then, going forward they started to do more accurate destruction, which is good, but also overlooked a lot in big destruction, and that is a shame

[@MrA16R]

2009: Building collapse at 60fps 2019: Game crashes and no building collapse

[@pudie8952]

This is so sadly true lmfao

[@norbertsoltesz1012]

2009: wow i cant wait to see what future graphics will look like 2019: we have reflections that no one would even notice that kill performance.

[@Gemesil]

2009: Building collapse at 60fps 2019: Game collapse at 0fps

[@akumpi]

I was a bit of a doomer 10 years ago and I thought I'd stick around just to see tech and games progress. They got me good!

[@Gato-1998]

@@norbertsoltesz1012 Inform more yourself on what ray tracing does.

[@Foxtrop13]

"imagine what could be done with today technology" norman reedus walking while carrying 30 boxes and a baby

[@Jean.05]

While *gripping for balance* of course

[@nillynush4899]

UPS the game...... what a fantastical future age we live in......

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

It's raining monster energy and I need to mow my lawn

[@sadlife8495]

god i hate game companies they do nothing right

[@thedavidalopez]

Too bad death stranding was a shit game

[@rezaka116]

The only game where bigger and slower vehicles are considered to be better.

[@zenssa6686]

@ yea but that's a simulator

[@jPlanerv2]

Oh boy this big Rocket tanks good memories

[@lmcgregoruk]

Blast Corps had bigger and slower vehicles being better.

[@DoktrDub]

rezaka116 Mechwarrior - “Am I a joke to you?”

[@DeadNoob451]

@ In spintires the bigger trucks can be way faster than a small and "nimble" jeep so i would not call them slow.

[@thomasdickson8245]

I remember playing this game and I was in a town house being attack by an air ship, I was on the top floor and destroyed it and it fell into the bottom floor, the whole building shuttered and I had to run down the stairs as the building collapsed around me, I've been trying to relive the rush sense lol

[@stxrmy1295]

Damn i remember playing this game for hours just breaking down all the buildings i find

[@kittysgomeoww]

i remember when i was younger i would spend hours at the giant bridge, destroying it in as many different ways as i can. i'd also try and take as many bits off of it as i could without letting it collapse.

[@votpavel]

i did this again few months ago,decided to play it again on ps4

[@shadybandit7]

i downloading from SteamUnlocked and i don't know if it will run because i need a graphics card

[@INoahGuy914]

Me too lol

[@omphya6229]

Bridge Jenga

[@Level-ts7xl]

funny how they managed to make destruction like this in 2009 and still couldn't make it work in the newest Crackdown. what a joke.

[@skorpius2029]

Aliens maybe

[@ritenger87]

the skill of the developer matters infinitely more than the technology available.

[@ThatTonnatoTenrec]

@@ritenger87 Still if engine isn't completely capable it can sometimes limit what devs can do.

[@aderemiporsche]

*OY VEY, CLOUD-POWERED DESTRUCTION TECHNOLOGY WITH 16X THE DETAIL AND RESOLUTION!*

[@ThatTonnatoTenrec]

@@aderemiporsche Honestly cloud techonology that when person moves trough it it creates you know, same effect you do when you pass trough smoke is pretty fucking cool in my book, if COD Ghost did anything at least its some of the graphical enhancments it has even if graphics itself and game are so so.

[@adam187ful]

Anyone remember how hectic the multiplayer was? Literally whole buildings going flying and hammer wielding savages

[@HaussPray]

Sniper hiding in building? Just hammer the building out from under them...good times :D Pity the lobbies were almost completely empty after just a couple years x.x

[@adam187ful]

@@HaussPray its indeed a pity and a greater pity they had to make that sequel that made them bankrupt.

[@BeefHandlesInc]

And then there was me running around with an ostrich.

[@Hiyooma]

I loved the multiplayer lol

[@cdc_9873]

I loved the multiplayer so much. I just really wish they added bots to to the multiplayer in case you couldn't find a lobby with nobody in it.

[@callmequaz9052]

"As a child I had a lot of fun throwing sticky grenades onto people and watch them run around in panic"

[@poryg5350]

I remember it well. "Don't shoot, I'm unarmed!" *stops and begins shooting again* You bitch... *takes C4* "Oh, ah, AAAAAAAAA!" *3 minutes running around* Boom.

[@rogerdalzell]

Same tho. Red faction was amazing.

[@torquetheprisoner]

you missed the best part set them alight with the flam trower as they run around at the same time and then blow them up

[@callmequaz9052]

Haha, man I miss that game. I remember when I would literally just sit there shooting glass and exploding walls, it was so fascinating to me.

[@poryg5350]

@@torquetheprisoner Not really, I had access only to the demo when I was a child.

[@souwcanbollzack4220]

This makes the frostbite engine's destruction look like trash.

[@v44n7]

hmm maybe todays battlefield destruction for sure... But bad company 2 It's still good enough. I would say even better In some parts because destroying a house really felt like destroying a house, In this game It's looks like you are just destroying a bunch of cardboard houses. But of course RF still has more destruction, but bad company 2 feels better

[@Visstnok]

The Frostbite engine has always been the emperor's new clothes. Good for trailers, bad for gameplay.

[@SHAHDIFMDKF]

bruh there the same level.

[@SHAHDIFMDKF]

@@v44n7 plz get your nostalgia glasses off kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5DXp42ZZs53pdE

[@Nebulaoblivion]

Frostbite engine is trash. EA is just trying to cram it down everyones throat, but developers say its really hard to work with.

[@kaspersaldell]

This game is surprisingly timeless, because nothing so far has surpassed it's destruction features.

[@crsc3095]

*LAUGHS IN ROBLOX

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

Noita has pretty good destruction but it’s 2D

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

crs c Roblox is capable of great things regarding physics but ultimately janky and not performance friendly all the time

[@flummizockt7322]

Well... Medieval engineers has some impressive destruction physics with entire buildings

[@headphonesz6527]

@@flummizockt7322 Red faction is a full game with multiplayer. Not a single physics room game.

[@cosmicgamer512]

Imagine GTA with destruction system like this.

[@joesomebody3365]

Lol it would crash, the buildings are too large and detailed.

[@Bacony_Cakes]

@*GOD DOESN'T EXIST* Nobody likes you.

[@Bacony_Cakes]

@*GOD DOESN'T EXIST* You're the one who made a 9/11 joke and is acting like a child.

[@mandalorian8160]

@*GOD DOESN'T EXIST* you made a 9/11 joke and now yiur angry as fuck for some guy giving you shit when yiu literally insulted hundred of people's suffering smh

[@heroninja1125]

@@mandalorian8160 you got offended by a joke probably because sad shit jokes remind u of yourself

[@ChadSlampiece]

One of my favourite memories of that generation was having to destroy a big building, blowing away a load of the walls at the base, then realising that I had something on the top floor to pickup. So I would go into the bulding and slowly navigate the top floor as I could hear the building creaking underfoot and stopping nervously as parts of the building broke away and fell around me.

[@bensdiaz]

Why didn't you destroy the whole building and pick up the object when it's on the ground?

[@southpaw117]

@@bensdiaz Not as thrilling.

[@dewey7218]

I remember taking the giant drills in red faction and drilling thru the ground until it ran out of fuel.

[@Giraffinator]

Whoever said "Let's tone down the destruction" is a big ol' dum dum.

[@jasontebbit6369]

Giraffinator They had to remove the ground destruction if they wanted to do building destruction good because the PS3 couldn’t handle it.

[@MajesticsTwelve]

@@jasontebbit6369 he was talking about red faction 2

[@phrawga]

Driving full speed through a building with an armored vehicle was the most satisfying thing on this planet

[@davidzazueta1471]

Remote minning the shit out of it

[@Mr._E._Shark]

Nah, th most satisfying was destroying the Harrington Memorial Bridge, but not just destroying, but taking your time, carefully, precisely removing supports, leaving it with just enough to stand, and then finishing it off in one big motion, bringing every piece and section of it down in one big, beautiful collapse.

[@perturbthepixel1410]

Teardown noises

[@wumbosaurus9121]

I loved when you went through a building and the vehicle glitches and suddenly went 200 kph and was sent flying across the map

[@teambros3405]

Well, think no more, teardown is a game that has a similar engin

[@CaptainFrankBlack]

I remember being so excited for the future of video games when I played this. I was so sure that all triple A games would feature fully destructible environments, even if destroying a building is never part of the game. Imagine GTA 5 where you can blow a hole in a skyscraper with a rocket launcher with realistic physics, and then maybe over time you see construction workers repairing the damage. How are we not there yet?

[@stevethepocket]

Probably because even if you have the engine already made, it requires a lot of extra man hours to design and model every building to behave properly, not to mention you'd need to have fully modeled interiors so it's not just a hollow shell. GTA V had a budget of something like a billion dollars as it is; imagine if that ballooned to two billion just so they could include one more feature.

[@sonnyboi1761]

@@stevethepocket GTA5 didn't have a billion, Halo Infinite had 500 million and that was stated to be the biggest game in terms of budget

[@ThylineTheGay]

AAA is lazy

[@sh0bez]

At this point I'd say triple A games are more about graphics and less about cutting-edge technology, one might argue that graphics are cutting-edge but keep in mind racing games, they usually are impressive looking but use some techniques to make the game look better than it is.

[@omLDN]

I don't think it's gonna come from an AAA studio until it's super cheap. "Marketing influences game revenue three times more than high scores" - game industry live by this statement currently. So little is being spent on R&D whilst marketing budgets are skyrocketing. Games are copypasta for the most part

[@YT-bk9wr]

The next video from kilksphilip: “I’m banned from going overseas?”

[@rapidfart9579]

Next video: "ISIS offered me a sponsorship and I said yes"

[@TheTyphoon365]

I don't get it

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@TheTyphoon365 Red Factions's Destruction = YT will think it's a political video about a communist organization And we all know how YT treats channels that are political (regardless of affiliation) or really just informative in nature

[@TheTyphoon365]

@@ArcturusOTE ahhhhh yeah yeah

[@lkcdarzadix6216]

This

[@yummyEnchilada]

It pisses me off that they made a gem of a game engine like this but they don't develop it further or implement it in future games.

[@Murr1can]

@Kristof Alexy You failed to mention they made Red Faction Armageddon, a game that steered away from the open world formula, and went for a linear campaign....when the whole point of Geurilla was being able to do whatever you wanted. So the game sold fuck all for money, and sent the studio careening into the abyss.

[@gameoob5604]

@Kristof Alexy But still, they could have sold the game engine so that there could have been more games supporting this kind of destruction

[@LordVader1094]

@Kristof Alexy It only went bankrupt after making a shitty game that didn't have very destructible environments: Red Faction Armageddon.

[@wunderlust5330]

@@LordVader1094 but even Armageddon had impressive levels of destruction even in the campaign levels. Its been a few years but I think i remember it bring just as good as Guerilla.

[@AnthonyDoesYouTube]

@@Murr1can Arnageddon had a solid campaign, the only problem was that it wasn't open world. The main thing people were angry with Armageddon for was removing the competitive multiplayer and replacing it with a survival mode. No competitive multiplayer, no open world, makes for a really underwhelming game especially at a time when games like CoD were out doing amazing with their Nazi Zombies mode.

[@brycejohansen7114]

The complete collection is like 80% at the moment on steam... cheap as chips

[@ConjointVR]

Chips as in fries^

[@ChaosBW]

I remember blowing up this huge bridge then finding out later it's crucial for completing a story mission that requires you to drive over it I tried cutting across land but it was no use

[@that_deadeyegamer7920]

One of the biggest problems with fully destructible environments, if the structures don't regenerate then you're screwed.

[@floatingpyro2050]

@Ryan Yarnevich the problem is this is a game where the entire selling point is "you can destroy everything". it's like making a doom game but giving you a bad ending if you kill too many demons

[@fromfriendtolove3165]

Toys're US bargin price at less than US$2.5 pc cd-rom bought, no any bug but TRAP at the end on last final stage/level never can get out of there (even reinstall the whole game again same stuck in the same position without alter the f(x) in its win constant value page by changing the user authority as an administrator same as some so-called famous pc peripheral band's secretly alternation without pc owner permission operating behind so user cant install other device & drivers, play dirty 4 $$$ at back door even long b4 y2k on pc industry as well, nobody doesnt know that !), when jump inside to c anything can be surprised or another tunnel can go to nowhere hence just cant get out of that hole anymore & r.i.p. 4 sure, end game.

[@redstar151]

The source code for this engine is ancient technology.

[@AnthonyDoesYouTube]

Just like the studio that's now 6 feet under

[@ThylineTheGay]

Ancient alien tech

[@Clara_Page]

I got this on switch in the sale (for under £2!!!) and I cant believe this game on the switch, it's insane how smooth the frame rate is making gunplay a blast (for a big console shooter running on the switch) yet still has the best destruction physics I've ever seen in my two decades of gaming. For some reason this game didn't gel with me on the 360 but I'm glad I'm playing it now.

[@jinx8624]

Cool to see that Philip is still checking comments on old videos

[@MegaUnwetter]

I think crysis and just cause series can keep up, but it's sad that there are so few modern games that have physics that were possible 20 years ago

[@gazzy9136]

I remember I went with my mam to Blockbusters years ago when I was just a kid looking for a game to get. Nothing really caught my eye, apart from this game... I didn't have much expectations for it, and it ended up being one of my favourite games. Must have played through it a good few times just destroying absolutely everything. The destruction amazed me from the Xbox 360 era days lol

[@jayhovah5621]

Craziest thing about this game when it came out, it was my best looking pc game at the time and I had a radeon 3870. No matter the destruction, this game never stuttered and never crashed. It was the first current gen pc game that i ever played that ran as smooth as it did. I think the side missions were you have to destroy a building with just your hammer on a short time limit was some of my favorite times in gaming.

[@quip3094]

The real mission is destroying every EDF building you come across.

[@drlca6601]

This technology, applied today, would be so useful in MMOs with base-building or any type of FPS.

[@BuzzingMeat]

Imagine battlefront 3 with this destruction, the lightsaber combat of Jedi academy movie battles 2, the ship to planet combat. Best game ever made right there

[@GamingRevenant]

I actually played Red Faction II for *houres on end* and ended up being one of my most favorite childhood games. Back then I had no idea about the backlash the second game received, for me it was simply the first shooter I had seen and attempted on a console of a friend of mine. It still has a special place in my hearth, regardless of the negative criticism!

[@votpavel]

second game was fine,as a game,it just went from open map to closed enviroments,had some cool guns too.Like the unicorn gun

[@kwedl]

I love how Red Faction Guerilla pulled off this destruction in 2009 on console hardware with weak CPUs, GPUS and 512mb VRAM/RAM completely offline. Meanwhile Crackdown 3 after years and years couldn't even do it in combination with the cloud on way stronger hardware.

[@Tacticaviator7]

11:47 Jokes on you but I destroyed that bridge with a sledge hammer the second I saw it.

[@nathandamaren2093]

Yep that sledgehammer was op af. I remember keeping that bridge up until near the end of the game cause it provided a great shortcut across a bigass canyon that required a 10 min drive otherwise. Eventually came back and nuked the sucker with the fully upgraded thermobaric rocket launcher.

[@rasmus9311]

When I first tried this game at a friends house we spent hours building tunnels, then i forgot what it was called for years

[@crispay8304]

“Just cause 3 has left the chat”

[@wolker213]

Just cause 4 dies instantly.

[@xXqc_Zod47]

@Yadu Govind put that in the bin.

[@crashbash8549]

@@xXqc_Zod47 I wouldn't expect a wwe fan to understand the charm of jc2

[@peps_vinyl]

@Quarantined Goy YES, that game imo beats JC by a long shot

[@njgjhgjghjgjlhlk]

Crysis

[@kujobananaro6737]

The fact that you didn’t mention the black hole charges is criminal

[@mattbecker743]

So true

[@seanborthwick7858]

Or the thermobaric missile launcher

[@SmileytheSmile]

I never want to stop watching you crush buildings ever.

[@APE029]

So glad someone is giving this the respect it's always deserved red faction is STILL ahead of its time

[@thefrub]

Yes! It's time for Red Faction Guerilla to get a real sequel!!

[@Gl0ckb1te]

Xbox should step up and make it an exclusive

[@loopysausage]

@@Gl0ckb1te Umm, no...

[@Jean.05]

David Valentin Uh, no thanks. They'll fuck it up. Look at their exclusive named "Crackdown 3" delayed a bunch of times and it just became Crackdowngrade 3 now

[@daedricwarrior7546]

@@Jean.05 doesn't mean they'll fuck Red Faction up, it would be nice to have it on PS4 and make it have cross play for more chaos

[@PrechtGaebolgHades]

@@daedricwarrior7546 i think it should be better if they release it independently like Metro series Devs.

[@FigmentHF]

This was the kid in nursery who’d always knock your block tower down and laugh.

[@eijdsjns8602]

I remember when crackdown 3 was supposed to have massive destruction with everything in a multiplayer match being able to be destructible. It's a shame how shit the game turned out. Also I'm surprised you didnt mention rainbow six siege, it might be on a smaller scale but it is amazing how practical and useful it is the blow a whole wall or just a small peep hole and how much of the detailed maps are able to be influenced and destroyed with your resources. Btw I really enjoyed this video and all of your videos, you are one of those youtubers that I stop everything I'm doing to watch one of your new videos.

[@roncinephile]

Best comment. Those words could/should have come out of my mouth.

[@calebr908]

Crackdowngraded

[@mr.angryman3599]

siege is overrated

[@percher4824]

Because Siege is a shiny dumpster fire. Pretty, yes, but not something you wanna touch.

[@YashaAstora]

Crackdown 3 was good though.

[@SyntheticHuman01]

I still play this game today. 2019 and it's still a good game

[@rural_throne4024]

2020

[@shadybandit7]

i gonna play this game today. 2020 and its still a good game.

[@callanrockslol]

In 2125, I was on a mining colony, on mars...

[@cantrespawn1460]

Spaaace asshooooooole

[@steven.2602]

just a quiet, backwater, facility. among the stars...

[@fecal_position6412]

He was just mining his own business

[@kabob0077]

@@steven.2602 Then one day I was minded my own business, mining my own ore And there he was SPACE ASSHOOOOOLLLLEEE!

[@locomotivebreath9364]

In a truck, flyyiiing oooooff a bridge

[@RaisinBagelz]

I only ever played the demo of this game, but i played it for hours and hours.

[@bbeaks]

this game gave me high expectations for destruction in games

[@Desperado9064]

Watch Unreal Engine Physics Chaos, they wanna update Fortnite with it lol xD

[@villemononen5303]

This, and Silent Storm.

[@Techischannel]

Well part of the reason why those structures on mars are much "Stronger" is (Besides the ammount of metal Reinforced, Mars-Regolith Concrete) Mars' lower Gravity.

[@MultiAlessndro98]

5:01 "There's something so meaty about each and every swing of your hammer." Mmmhh 🤔

[@ollieewilliams9656]

I worked out previously that if you manage to jump/climb into a destroyed shell of a vehicle and swung your hammer, it would launch you across the map, spent hours just doing that.

[@jamesbrooks9321]

i was so blown away when this game came out, i thought that this was going to be the future of gaming.... oh well, RIP destructible terrain

[@RMJ1984]

I wish we could get an HD remaster of Red Faction 1. Man that was a pretty good game.

[@seronymus]

Honestly the dated graphics and ambience are part of the charm.

[@whitefatalis2743]

RFG is a game of my chilchood. One of the best memories out there.

[@SianaGearz]

One series you might like would be Earth Defence Force. The destruction is not nearly as deep, but it's still fun. Also given that there's an Earth Defence Force in Red Faction, and both are about destroying stuff, this is crying out for a crossover.

[@NeedMoarRage]

Goddamn, it's soo satisfying to destroy everything and cause chaos, especially the large structures and buildings. Whyyy aren't there more games with destructable physics like this? :(

[@Totone56]

People now want graphics before physics, so devs follow what people ask for ... For example i was disappointed to see the new Star Wars game wasn't using Euphoria like The Force Unleashed, but pre rendered animations. Life is unfair.

[@christianriddler5063]

Crysis 1 kind of has this sort of destruction in most of it's levels.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

@@christianriddler5063 Crysis also barely had any buildings.

[@christianriddler5063]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD I played it a few days ago, there were plenty of buildings, especially in the first half of the game.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

@@christianriddler5063 last time I played was probably back in 2009-2010 but the early game mostly had huts/sheds. When you got to see concrete buildings the destruction wasn't there.

[@Armin-xw8pg]

This games multiplayer was amazing to play when it had people. I watched my buddy shoot a Thermobaric rocket at a player Sniping in a tower. It blew up the whole structure with him flying out of it dying. There was no going back in that sniper tower, it was trashed.The destruction was so unique it changed how matches would play out.

[@Kimera92]

Imagine playing Red Factions Guerrilla's multiplayer and purposely camping at the very top of a tower...... what a mad man!

[@Armin-xw8pg]

@@Kimera92 Lol someone had to do it so the tale could be told!

[@isaacjones748]

"The rocket launcher is insanely overpowered" IS THERE some kind of STRANGE and UNnatural reason you're not using the thermobaric launcher, SIR

[@kabob0077]

Probably doesn't want to show people the mini-nukes that thing fires...

[@KiyoKiyoshi277]

That thing was insanely OP in multiplayer, especially in that mode when a team must protect structures like hangars and things 😂😂😂 and the "black hole" bomb 😂😂😂

[@nathandamaren2093]

@@KiyoKiyoshi277 ah singularity mines, good times lol.

[@KiyoKiyoshi277]

@@nathandamaren2093 Yeah, was so funny seeing your friends spinning around and then exploding 😂

[@lovelaugh7299]

When this game came out I couldn't effort it but I played the demo for hours and I remember being amazed by the physics

[@iamafish928]

I play this game every year around November/December until Christmas, It's kinda tradition now. Brings back good memories

[@TheSeanSwizzy]

I used to play alot of mercenaries 1 and 2 as a kid and this game brings me back...

[@WB_Mel]

I remember spending hours upon hours crashing through things and blowing up buildings without getting past the first few missions; never finished the game I was quite a destructive person

[@JHD6045]

I still remember this summer that game came out and playing in on the playstation to. I was so impressed how I could drive the rock driller through the wall for quite a ways. Then you had the rocket 2nd blow chunks in the walls and create your own pathways. It really was cool. I really enjoyed red faction guerrilla

[@maiqtheliar2465]

Guerilla was my childhood I’d be like Me: Mom look I’m going to blow up this bridge Mom: good job Me: Look I’m going to drive through this building

[@shadybandit7]

building: please no

[@ContactingTheDead]

One of the best hidden gems that I enjoyed playing on the Xbox 360.

[@nukesdabomb5704]

I feel like something worth mentioning, is the "levelation" feature in Battlefield, where you can knock down a building and change the map entirely, or Rainbow six siege how you can complete destroy the walls. Ive seen videos where people have destroyed every wall in each map.

[@RetroPlus]

That's scripted though, but the smaller buildings have pretty okay destruction

[@steven.2602]

Eeeeh. brownie points for trying at least, but it still comes nowhere near close to this. levolution in BF4 isn't dynamic unlike this, and rainbow six only goes as far as being able to punch holes in walls, no physics-based destruction, no weight simulation, no interaction between two destructable objects for more chaos and destruction. no breaking off chunks of walls and have it be physics enabled, no need to actually get architects to design buildings for the game because your destruction engine is so realistic the original buildings you made for the game crumbled under its own weight instantly. ya see? same issue with the smaller scale BF4 destruction. the destructibility in those games comes nowhere near close to the dynamic destructable environment of red faction.

[@justinslavka5418]

I never played this game, but it does look really fun. I had a really fun time running around in Far Cry 2 just burning stuff. Red faction has great destruction while Far Cry 2 has the best realistic fire and fire spread.

[@1881-f9n]

Been playing the remastered all week wtf the coincidence I remember it on the og xbox I still think its holds up amazing

[@votpavel]

it does,played it few months ago

[@704pat]

I played Armageddon on my PS3 as a kid and never remembered the physics and destruction until I played it again.

[@iamYashodeep]

Rockstar should apply this destruction in gta 6

[@jinx8624]

Not feasible But they could definitely add better destruction

[@justmatthere8521]

This was my favorite game when I was a kid. Loved the rail gun especially and the custom deathrun maps. The cap on destruction was no joke either, like you could literally create a bottomless pit. I'm so surprised other games don't have destruction mechanics in their engines.

[@Andyilmatto]

I feel like, after playing Death Stranding, this is the game I want to replay the most: it's the polar opposite! Also: Space Asshooooooole

[@Onisak25]

And now we get immersive 24 fps experience in Starfield. With similar graphics as this and no physics lol.

[@Nekminute]

Meanwhile in Call of Duty you have a AC 130 gunship bombarding a whole village and cant seem to destroy a house made of mud and twigs

[@Sarnatuile]

Because not every game needs destruction for balancing reasons. It baffles me people don't understand it doesn't fit in every single game.

[@Nekminute]

@@Sarnatuile they go out of their way to be more realistic yet explosions dont do shit to the terrain and structures ...

[@stefanschultz601]

@@Sarnatuile it would be amazing if CoD maps could be changed throughout the round and you're a fool if you think otherwise. It would sure help cut down on campers if you blow a hole in the wall they're hiding behind

[@that_deadeyegamer7920]

@@Sarnatuile it's a war game, it's single player could benift from a least a little realism.

[@OodldoodlNoodlesocks]

I remember playing the original Red Faction multiplayer. Literally digging our own tunnels through the maps. Was a blast.

[@ryanwillis2513]

Red Faction Guerrilla was one of my favourite all time games

[@jaybee9716]

Never forget that gravity on mars is 1/3rd of that of the Earth. So yeah, buildings sometimes staying up when they should have gone down is totally plausible.

[@jinx8624]

That is a point that I never thought of when angry at buildings being ridiculously resilient

[@PersecutedPursuer]

Old game, still looks 16 Times more detailed than Fallout 76

[@votpavel]

ooh.....i see what you did there,took me few seconds

[@zeon5061]

It just works

[@nuclearshorts1243]

@@zeon5061 except it actually works. Besides the ai of course

[@z-form2559]

Fallout 76 map is actually really detailed, the problem with the game is that it lacks good rpg mechanics, which is what made fallout great. They tried to fix it with adding NPCs, but it still feels off. I still enjoyed the game though

[@lolmouf]

my friend and I would literally spend dozens of hours just building caves in red faction 1 and making forts. it was so fun.

[@cymonin5549]

Never been this early for anything. I guess this just shows how much I love the content from all the Kliks

[@romans4143]

Another (sort of) good example of destructible environments is the game Silent Storm (and it's sequel, Silent Storm: Sentinels, year 2003 and 2004 respectively i believe). It doesn't have like working structure parts physics tho, only npc/player/items ragdol models influenced by gravity and collision. But you certainly could destroy most of things on a map. A shame that landscape and earth was impenetrable though. But on the bright side, game also had a bullet ricochetting feature, which is also nice.

[@Electronica27]

so this was the name of the game, I remember seeing an ad so many years ago about a game with realistic destruction and everything..... and forgot the name completely.

[@Shmbler]

Original RF deathmatches were so much fun and a unique experience. After 30 minutes each map looked like a true battlefield. I don't understand why noone adopted the Geomod technique.

[@Revalopod]

You might like The Finals then

[@Aristocrafied]

Man I remember glass house.. Carved out the roof and it was hanging from two triangles touching at the tips, spent half an hour looking for it. When the roof fell it actually split in half over the roof of the glass house, didn't expect that I thought it'd stay one piece. Between this and Soldier of Fortune.. I hoped 18 years later we'd have fully destructible everything...

[@kongshoej]

Wow, i loved Red faction back when it came out in 2001. My friend and i used to speedrun it all the time, and ended up doing quite good, finishing the game on hard in a time around 1 hour and 5 minutes. Flashback to my childhood. Going to play it tonight!

[@Radhaugo108]

Call of Duty Modern Warfare Bullet Holes on Walls: Enable / Disable Red Faction: Hold my bazooka...

[@SonnoMaku]

The destruction in Battlefield Bad Company 2 was really amazing to me at that time. It wasn't this good but it was good and made battles feel great in that game. It's probably my all time favorite Battlefield game.

[@votpavel]

oh yeah,i tore shit up by driving tanks into buildings and leveling them with enemy team inside,even if they threw mines at me they still blew some of the building up.Or sit there with team full of ghillies and unlimited desegnate the target on one house with the rush crate to clean it up so someone can arm it

[@commanderegon3299]

2kliksphilip, There is an even better destruction game called: Teardown, It just isn't out yet, but be sure to give it a look.

[@SABO_DB]

Teardown is far from able to be called a game atm, especially a better game.

[@cloroxbleach9222]

@@SABO_DB emphasis on *destruction* game I guess but yeah it's barely a game

[@TwSkyll]

R/woosh

[@RoxiCoal]

@@SABO_DB maybe because it's it's not out yet

[@SABO_DB]

@@TwSkyll I mean I know what woosh is but I have no idea why you commented it here for the life of me

[@90s_Wizard]

I know I'm late to the party but a few years ago some old devs did a livestream and talked about the destruction. Basically the whole thing in guerilla was trial and error, redoing things over and over until it all collapsed in a semi realistic manner. Some buildings that were harder to code had an invincible piece somewheres on it, usually a gurder around its base that it was then built around for some reason (can't remember why). They also talked about the cancelled sequel where the EDF launch an invasion of Mars

[@Necrion]

Imagine a Blast Corps sequel using this game engine..a man can dream...

[@chimppimpin420]

I still have my old Red Faction 2 for the original Xbox that I used to play all the time as a kid. I remember how cool it was as a kid to be able to have a destructible environment

[@Papa_Swish]

"Crackdown 3 will have building destruction like you've never seen" Game released in 2009: *Hold my beer*

[@VOZmonsoon]

I love that perfect cut away from the Red Faction guy with the C4 on him after the first frame of the explosion going off

[@leinadreign3510]

Newest Crackdown: With our cool cloudtech, we can have the best destruction system evar! Some game released ages ago: Hold my cervisia

[@LucidDream]

I used to play Red Faction multiplayer a lot back in the day. The ability to make your own path using explosives made the maps really interesting for me. We'd often work together to make these tunnels to positions where we'd have a good vantage/kill point.

[@Poleily]

Teardown be like: "Allow me to introduce myself."

[@stachu_2137]

Also Teardown after confrontation with RFG *weak doge speech kicks in*: somrry my bad, pleamse remove the thin line of solid so I could fall to the ground, thamks, wait... I'm not falling, the scale of demstruction was to big to hamdle such advamced opemration, I give up Guerrilla, you're better than me 😉

[@nugitobs]

Bruhh... Red Faction: Guerrilla was released in 2009. Imagine in that day, the technology is so impressive. Rarely to find open world game with destructible physics.

[@stdcall]

8chan is (was) a really comfy place to hang out -- threads that would last hours anywhere else could last days due to the general lack of posters.

[@22srs22]

Yeah was fun, it's semi back now but it just doesn't feel the same.

[@roganjosh6220]

Never encountered a building deleting itself in front of me in 2+ playthroughs, maybe it's a glitch from your mods or driver conflicts

[@wumbosaurus9121]

Yeah I've played through the game many times, and I've never gotten the disappearing buildings or the rods sticking up out of the ground

[@fromfriendtolove3165]

Toys're US bargin price at less than US$2.5 pc cd-rom bought, no any bug but TRAP at the end on last final stage/level never can get out of there (even reinstall the whole game again same stuck in the same position without alter the f(x) in its win constant value page by changing the user authority as an administrator same as some so-called famous pc peripheral band's secretly alternation without pc owner permission operating behind so user cant install other device & drivers, play dirty 4 $$$ at back door even long b4 y2k on pc industry as well, nobody doesnt know that !), when jump inside to c anything can be surprised or another tunnel can go to nowhere hence just cant get out of that hole anymore & r.i.p. 4 sure, end game.

[@Ccodebits]

I love the way the old video games look. There's just something about it.

[@henryelvidge9502]

Imagine Just Cause with this level of destructible environment

[@shadybandit7]

comparing red faction guerrila with just cause 3: just cause 3 size: 60 gb red faction guerilla size: 6 gb - just cause 3 destruction : 7/10 red faction guerilla destruction: 7/10 - just cause 3 graphics: 10/10 red faction guerilla graphics: 10/10 - the end.

[@henryelvidge9502]

@@shadybandit7 nah just cause destruction is good but nothing like this, but its graphics are far and away better than rf

[@shadybandit7]

@@henryelvidge9502 uhh just cause don't like it have destruction, i played it and the results are: only explosive things explode not everything is going to explode.

[@notchrisloveing9319]

The nostalgia bro! I loved red fraction on the ps2 was so fun making tunnels and showing up behind the enemies , finding secrets.

[@Sentay0]

I'm the bizarro mutant who loved this entire game: story, environment, gameplay, destruction, I even liked the multiplayer

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

The multi was pretty good too bad it died completely

[@jbess04]

@@Journey_to_who_knows God I'd love to go back and play multiplayer. Levels would end up being completely flat by the end of the round. It was a ton of fun

[@Shottyshotgun1]

First time I played it I was young, but the last time I played it through about a year ago it really hit me how fucked up it kinda was. You werent just attacking the government and military, you were bombing restaurants and massmurdering civilians in the name of red faction

[@platocatoz]

I loved the red faction games as a kid. The nostalgia is real with that bridge. I figured out that if you hit those support beams 3/4 times with the hammer then they break. Super satisfying to beat the bridge without the anti matter gun