3 Anti-Predation Chads vs. VPL On Culling Predators || ft.

Will you shoot the chupacabras? Discussing the ethics of culling odd-order predators with ‪@appoota‬ ‪@VeganGains‬ vs. Vegan Power Lab.
VPL took down the video, so uploading it on my end. Enjoy!
My links: linktr.ee/eatpvssynotanimals
#veganism #wildanimalsuffering #namethetrait

[@eatpvssynotanimals]

- VPL took down the video, so uploading it on my end. Enjoy! - Vegan Gains comes in at 1:57:40 - To get in touch with me for a debate or come hang out in my discord server: discord.gg/WPBy8YnRrA - For a reality check, watch literally any nature documentary

[@InquisitiveVegan]

3:25:31 "Can yoy say that again? I got lost with the whole idea that Hitler is a bear." Best line of the debate. I feel for Cip, he didn't want a debate but he got one, especially when Richard arrived, locked and loaded... Thanks to all of you, I found this really interesting. Thanks to Cip for representing what I think is the average vegan's position, and to the rest of you for representing an alternative position, which I think is convincing.

[@stevenmarkhansen]

this was intense❣

[@Iam-not-VEGAN-but-]

2:17:28 brrr skibidi dop dop dop yes yes

[@cassandrabaignoire1762]

Heri looks like Zac Efron, hahaha

[@eatpvssynotanimals]

I’ll take that as a compliment, thanks 😅🫶🏼

[@cassandrabaignoire1762]

@@eatpvssynotanimals It is! You're welcome

[@KillersWalkFree]

What is up with the title of this video? 😂

[@eatpvssynotanimals]

Just the truth 🤷‍♂️😎

[@offgridvegan668]

Saying we’re not including marine systems in this ideology is like pescatarians choosing to ignore marine life as a whole. I love this subject and find it super interesting but does not pertain to veganism. Veganism is a personal decision to reject unnecessary animal exploitation. Choosing to willingly kill keystone species who don’t have a choice and need to do so to survive in order to not only thrive but to maintain a balanced eco system is completely opposite to the ideology of Veganism . That being said I love this channel and love these conversations , hope to see more of it soon . Keep up the good work

[@eatpvssynotanimals]

I couldn’t disagree more and am happy to have a debate with you about several propositions in your argument here. I think it does follow logically from vegan values and I think it is morally justified to cull some predators. Write to me privately to debate for a future video.

[@offgridvegan668]

After watching this I don’t really see why there would be a reason for me to debate since I think this conversation covered all the points i would want to cover, it would just be a mirrored conversation of this one . I think it’s a “agree to disagree” case . But next time I see you we can definitely have a chat about it 👊🏼 hope to see you guys soon

[@eatpvssynotanimals]

@@offgridvegan668 Nope. I disagree again. The point of ethics debates is to explore values. I want to understand your values and your view, not Ciprian’s. Let’s have a talk and get closer to the truth.

[@jaromjaromene8661]

I would already disagree with your statement of veganism being only a personal decision. Are there any other injustices you also just see as personal decision? Because the way non-human animals are treated by most humans is just that: unjust. Veganism seeks to grant animals rights, and if animals deserve the right to life then these rights should logically also apply to "wild" animals, just as human rights are for ALL humans and not just a select few.

[@jaromjaromene8661]

@@eatpvssynotanimals you can debate me. 🤣🤣🤣 although I do not think there would be much of a debate, since so far during all the videos I have seen with you in them (be it street activism or conversations with other vegans) I have not found a single opinion or statement that I think we would disagree upon. 😅 awesome work, brother!

[@bobhill4364]

Great to see this up over here. I think it's important to not be closed minded about what Veganism is and could be.

[@veganpowerlab]

Ironic how I start this "conversation" by saying no character attacks and that this isn't a vegan issue, and yet here you are making it a vegan issue and calling us close minded for thinking the solution to the problem is not good.

[@appoota]

@@veganpowerlab It is a vegan issue. When you said it in the live, we didn't agree with it, we just agreed to not discuss whether it was a vegan issue or not.

[@jaromjaromene8661]

​@@veganpowerlab on what logical basis are you assuming this is not a vegan issue?

[@bobhill4364]

@@veganpowerlab I didn't make a statement on your character, but on FACT. If anyone says that this isn't a vegan issue and that the definition of veganism can't be challenged, then they have a closed view on what veganism is. My intention wasn't to make it personal or offend at all. My apologies if that wasn't clear from my initial response.

[@logicalvegan]

Great Job Heri

[@ExistentialSeeker]

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