3 Reasons to MUST Tape Your Mouth with CPAP. OSCAR Data Tutorial

[@wilcharl]

My wife loves the fact that I went out and bought surgical tape and started taping my mouth shut

[@sgnorris]

I am so happy to see that I am not the only one out here who is taping their mouth shut.!!!

[@davidpeterzell789]

Two thumbs up for cover-roll stretch. I've been using it since you first recommended it months ago. For me, it is the best and most effective way to tape. That's based on my subjective experience and also my OSCAR data, There's a reduction in leaks and also a reduction in sleep disruptions. I usually use two strips, with one taped on top of the other for a little more stability. I used to cut a small slit so that I could re-hydrate with a straw in the middle of the night. Now, I skip that because I'm unlikely to wake up during the night, sleeping a full 7 hours. That last part is just amazing.

[@heartchakra2]

So you don’t cut a slit ? Are you not scared if power or something goes off ?

[@groove9tube]

All sleep docs need to watch this. They might learn something.

[@wallyfirkins1664]

Wow! As I have said before, I suffer from horrible mouth leaks, dry mouth, Major Dental Problems and I have tried EVERYTHING, except for the specific tape you recommend. Guess what? I am going to try it! Thanks very much for the info Lefty! You provide a great service to us mask wearers.

[@LisaF_]

Mouth leaks used to wake me several times a night as well as waking with a dry mouth. I now use the Bleep ports/mask and I seal my mouth with a zinc free denture cream. I found tape irritating to my skin (except for SomniFix, but it didn’t work very well for me). With this combo I now have zero leaks of any kind. It’s been so helpful for my sleep.

[@kanzaahmad5746]

Which one you use? Any links pls

[@scowell]

I went to a lab titration and taped my mouth... my lab tech was skeptical... but evidently I made a believer out of him.

[@ronbigdog48]

I started tapping when you did your first video on it with this . I have to tell you it changed my life I sleep so good and I have not had Brain fog one time when I get up in the morning. Thank you for your video!!

[@youcanthide004]

“My nose is long but you probably haven’t noticed it” dude, I love you man. On a serious note though your Content is priceless. Thanks for everything man I’m brand new in the CPAP world I’m gonna send you an email I have some questions and then I’m gonna hire you but I need some help with a few things first.

[@sheltermutts4185]

Love the cover-roll tape and it has been a giant success for me. I use two pieces of it, one over the top of the other, and slightly staggered to cover more real estate. A few secrets. I dog-ear the bottom piece so I have something to grab in the morning. Then I pull slowly (I have a mustache) to remove and it doesn’t pull off any skin. As you mentioned, I did have to adjust my pressure up a couple of points to feel like I have enough air. Don’t tell the Cpap Police. I just went rogue. The added pressures generated by good taping and my adjustments also required a change in masks from my old Resmed Airfit P10 pillow mask to a Resmed N20 nasal mask which is far more tolerant to my now leak free pressures. And No, I didn’t ask anyone if I could do that either. I long ago had my prescription changed to “mask of choice” so I didn’t have to. The N20 is also very long lasting and easy on cushions. It took me a long time to figure all this out but I would have never gotten there without your help Jason. Because I live in rural Montana where power outages are frequent I went solar with a massive 12v battery to guarantee that I don’t have interruptions with my mouth taped. That eliminated my final objection to mouth taping. One final pro secret is that I put a loose fabric bandaid over the exhalation holes of the hose in front of the cushion so it doesn’t shoot cold air out and hit my wife in the eye. Thanks for all the help Jason! You are truly a Rock Star!

[@davidpeterzell789]

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[@kali205]

I love that you go rogue and take control of your own therapy to make it work. I dislike that there's a section of the medical community that makes us feel like doing this is naughty without permission.

[@bobw1335]

Great to go rogue! Just be sure the increased pressure isn't causing Central Apnea, which are quite dangerous. I check this daily on my AirSense 11 display screen before getting out of bed. Easy peasy.

[@KirstinDMaxwell]

I have taped forever and am so happy to hear people say it isn't crazy. I think it is increasing how fast my top lip wrinkles, but is worth it for good sleep.

[@redshoes3635]

I've been taping for a couple of years now. I've tried all kinds of tapes with some being non-effective and others nearly ripping my lips off. NowI have settled on using Nexcare 3M micropore sensitive (low trauma). I used one strip but was occasionally motor boating (love that description) through the one strip so I tried 2 overlapping strips. Voila! A roll from Amazon can cost as little as 5.00 and lasts for up to 2 months. I reuse the strips as well and create a little tab for easy removal, an old ICU trick.

[@Drewy62]

Mouth taping pro-tip: apply a coat of lip balm just before you apply the tape for pain free morning removal.

[@DoubtingThomas333]

Won't that stop it from sticking?

[@katherinereece]

I've been taping my mouth for about 6 months and it's really saved my CPAP from being thrown out a window. I use the SomniFix tape, my skin is very thin and sensitive and it's best I've found for me.

[@castello544]

I tried it with painters tape and it worked! I ordered the real tape and will check in soon.! Thanks

[@reneetrudeau856]

Pro Tip: Unless your skin is already oily, apply some moisturizer to your mouth area. When I used Jason's recommended tape without doing that, it felt like my face was being ripped off when I removed the tape. I used Olay Regenerist because it was handy, but any moisturizer would do. The tape stayed in place perfectly and came off with only minor face-ripping. It did the trick for my therapy, too, because I had no dry mouth in the morning. Winner!

[@meandmine4008]

Thankyou for that. I taped last night for the first time, but pulling it off was not pleasant. I came back here to see if there were less sticky suggestions, but I will try moisturizer first

[@VinylRescue]

I started using tape over my mouth a couple of weeks after seeing a video from Nicko on CPAP Reviews, but I've been watching your videos also. I downloaded and installed the Oscar program and used it on my wife's profile. She's being resistant to using tape even after I've told her why she should. I've told her I've observed her leaking through her mouth and that's it's also bad on her teeth. I used to drool on my pillow a lot, but now it's stopped. I now need to upload my profile on Oscar and see how I'm doing. I use a 3M medical paper tape for now, but I have the tape you linked saved on my list on Amazon. The tape works fine, but it leaves a slight residue that washes off with soap and water.

[@cebruthius]

Mouth taping *with* xPAP makes total sense. Some people say it's a solution for apnea by itself but that's bunk.

[@Freecpapadvice]

Very bunk.

[@jamesf8783]

You talked me into taping 3 months ago and i'm not thrilled about it but it does help. Putting a tab on the end makes it easier to remove in the am. I'm considering trying a double mouth guard.

[@JDHood]

Been a hose-head since 2015. I've never had a 0.0 AHI or leak-free night until I started taping a month ago. I've been using 3m Micropore (2") and it works over a stache' & beard (close trimmed, 1/8" or less). But it is pretty sticky and does not come off without a bit of a fight. I'll try The cover-roll and see how it does. As soon as I started taping, I ditched the chin strap (useless - exactly for the reason you stated). Thanks!

[@kebo57]

Lol!! Never heard us CPAP users referred to as hoseheads!! I got a laugh out of that!!!

[@wetrock2766]

I use GoJo hand cleaner to remove all the "sticky", rinse with water.

[@dianne5922]

@Wetrock I use vegetable oil to remove sticky reduce from the tape!

[@dianne5922]

Sorry "residue"!

[@wetrock2766]

@@dianne5922 Oil will make the glue less sticky but some will still remain on your skin. The hand cleaner will make the glue water soluble and easily rinsed away with water. Oil is more gentle on your skin tough.

[@purrceys7959]

Actually I wear a full face mask and OSCAR has shown me that I get fewer leaks and better numbers when I tape. When my mouth opens and my jaw drops, I think it changes the shape of my face and I get more leaks as a result. (I have a very small chin.) My pressure is above 19, so I do everything I can to avoid leaks. I use a small pieces of tape vertically in the centre of my lips.

[@TheChipMcDonald]

3m Micropore 2"x10 yard rolls, 6 on dispensers for $12 on Amazon. Bonus: holds your lips together, but you can yawn through it, and has the right adhesion/removability ratio. No residue, works over beard/mustache.

[@DoubtingThomas333]

Oh you smarty pants...this is probably the best overall idea for those of us with nasal masks.

[@karenzimmer7607]

Didn't work well at all... can't return it. Guess if I ever need to wrap a wound bandage I can use for that.

[@DoubtingThomas333]

@@karenzimmer7607 use the normal surgical tape...medium hold...but then use some moisturiser before you put it on. Works a treat.

[@karenzimmer7607]

@@DoubtingThomas333 I'll try that...always thought no moisturizer, Vaseline allowed in that area. Good to know because I miss it.

[@DoubtingThomas333]

@karenzimmer7607 you definitely want it to soak in. I'd use sorbolene, not Vaseline. Either way you want it to just moisturise your skin, then make sure your skin isn't slick on the surface.

[@riknbkr330]

I started taping for the past 9 or 10 months. First with 3M tape, but that had pulled apart too fast. Then tried Somnifix, that didn't work at all. Then someone on the apnea forum suggested Fleximull...which is the European version of the cover roll. That seemed to work for me, especially the 4" width for some reason. I think it holds on any jaw/chin movement better. I tried the 2" BSN, but that didn't work very well...again, I'm thinking my jaw/chin drops and I do have Bruxism and wear a mouthguard. For sure I have to shave, as I have 5 O'clock shadow at 9AM. If I don't shave for a day, I start getting mouth leaks. Other than that Lefty's channel and tips have really helped. May try to the Bleep pillows as I never get zero leak lines with any of the Resmed masks....oh yeah, I'm using N20 mainly, but also P30i, N30i and F&P Brevida. Keep up the good work Jason!

[@jbf2858]

Jason, thanks for this video. I'm not into taping my mouth because I use a FFM, but your explanation of OSCAR and looking at leaks with flow rate really helped me a lot! I wish you would do more OSCAR tips videos. This is really informative and helpful. Nice! I also like your rants!

[@vikasgupta1828]

What’s an FFM?

[@iamsetset]

Full Face Mask probably @@vikasgupta1828

[@CB-bp2fl]

That TAPE is the Cats MEOW and ROCKS!!! After trying many tapes while waiting for the 7 days for my delivery of this Tape; Last eve I got my first change to use this TAPE. OMG BEST NIGHT OF SLEEP in the last year for sure. Leak Rate was 0.01% vs my Normal 25% to 45% Leak Rates. Thanks Jason for the BEST $150.00 spent on the Remote Diagnostic review of my Data and recommend fixes. Blessings to You and Yours.

[@Freecpapadvice]

That's awesome! Love it when a plan comes together!!!! 😄 I take it the "alteration" also worked well? Pleasure speaking with you CB.

[@CB-bp2fl]

@@Freecpapadvice YES :alteration did ADD to the success. Thanks for setting me up for a HEALTHY Retirement :) Yes absolute pleasure Jason.

[@john99776]

THANK YOU for this suggestion Jason. I tried the Cover Roll tape which works well to stick lips together, but don't like the fact that it's permeable and lets a little air in and out. I like to sleep on my back and still get a dry mouth with this tape in place because it stretches enough to let my lips separate slightly, even with a soft cervical collar, and thus allows that little bit of airflow through it, which adds up over the night. So I reverted to the one method that seems to work for me - put lips together, cover acroos mouth with a piece of one and a half inch wide athletic tape (Walgreen's...cheap) and then wrap a length of inch and a half wide self adhesive stretch bandage (like the stuff they put on after you have blood drawn - it's cheap online also) over the athletic tape and lapped a couple of inches in back of the neck to secure it, which keeps the non-breathable athletic tape in place all night.

[@cameronk544]

I use 3M transpore surgical tape. $6 for two 10 yard rolls. Works great

[@fitybux4664]

7:19 I consider you as someone who looks at this stuff professionally, and I find it EXTREMELY interesting how you switch back and forth between CPAP and APAP modes. 😆 Is there an advantage of using min = 8.4 / max = 8.4? Does the machine do some certain scoring only when it's in APAP mode?

[@k6txh]

Mouth taping absolutely works greatly with my N30i mask. It is a game changer! I agree, it is much better than a chin strap.

[@00tich]

I use 2" medipore by 3m. its a stretchy mesh and Ive found the adhesive doesnt leave a residue. its also pre perforated at 2"increments

[@Matt314159]

I'd be interested in a more thorough training video for interpreting the flow rate graphs. I sort of feel like I can recognize the arousals, but not with high confidence.

[@jeffxcc]

I use both and I'm blown away and have dreams again! It's bizarre and freaky at first, but I got used to it and love it!

[@ClarisseRockinThatBow]

Jason - THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! When you were describing the headache in the morning - that's the way I feel! I checked my CPAP SD card read out - and my mask leak is HORRIBLE. Sure, my AHI is under 1.0, but I still feel lousy. Now, I think I know why. I'm getting that tape from your link - I'll let you know my results after I start applying it. You're the best!

[@Freecpapadvice]

Look forward to hearing about this!

[@smokingtarheel3003]

This is great advice. I'm using a full face mask AND tape too. I want to graduate to a nasal mask. My AHI is terrible though and I need to set up an appointment with you.

[@jamesf8783]

I highly recommend appointments with Jason. I did one a few months back and between upping the pressure some and using tape I sleep a lot better! Doooo it!

[@tommangan7]

Very interesting to here you tape with a full face mask I'd be contemplating the same, do you still tape across the whole mouth?. Do you think you mouth breathe a lot? Does it help with leaks?

[@smokingtarheel3003]

@@tommangan7 Yes, I was mouth breathing a lot. I’m hoping to graduate to a nose pillow mask. I feel as if I’m sleeping more deeply and having fewer leaks this way.

[@tommangan7]

@@smokingtarheel3003 thanks for the reply, think I'll give the combo a go!

[@smokingtarheel3003]

@@jamesf8783 Thanks James for the recommendation. It's scheduled!!!

[@DavidPScherer]

Can your recommended tape be used with facial hair? The product "Hostage" is demonstrated by a bearded person, but the tape is pretty expensive. If you know about this, please let me know. Thanks

[@MountainDiva]

Just ordered Cover-Roll through your affiliate link. Been using the X-shaped tape and getting the lip fluttering/motorboat affect. This is has been worse since I started the F&P Evora. I love the mask so much just need to find a proper solution. Interested in seeing the reports in OSCAR. Thanks!

[@dironifish]

For about $18, I buy a box of 6 rolls of 2 inch 3M Durapore tape. There's 10 yards per roll. I use about 4 inches per night, 10 yards = 360 inches divided by 4 inches = 90 nights per roll X 6 rolls = 540 nights for all 6 rolls. Comes out to a little more than 3 cents a night. It works great, and I have a mustache.

[@shawndrapennington6833]

Where do you buy this tape?

[@based_peppep1676]

If you're opposed to taping, just use a full face mask. Plenty of options out there that are as comfortable as nasal pillows. I love my airtouch F20.

[@monicaperez2843]

Me, too!

[@JohnBenson]

I have used medical tape for the past year. Big difference if I don't use it. Only problem is that is difficult to remove in the morning. I'm concerned if I have an explosive sneeze. I'll give your suggestion a try. Thanks.

[@wetrock2766]

Pull slowly, I've had some coughing and sneezes, try to hold them as much as possible and it will not be that bad. To stop the sneezing reflex pinch your noze (not too hard) just below the bridge then count to 10 and release, repeat as needed. If you can't hold back stop pinching.

[@CB-bp2fl]

I NEVER KNEW I could YAWN thru my Nose, but I did!!! LMAO

[@VeldaE12]

I tape but can’t do all the way across as my asthma causes cough at times and I went into panic when I was aroused by a cough and mouth was totally stuck sealed and I could not get it loose fast enough. But even leaving a small gap I sleep much better than with no tape.

[@SimEngineer]

Ok so I started using the tape you suggested on your Amazon page and previous video. I have been using an f30i without tape but still waking up with dry mouth. I started tape with the f30i and was working good. Had no more dry mouth. Bought an n30i and tried last night, tape woke up many times, my cheeks puffed out and basically loosened the tape to where it started to leak. I have " the eliminator" per one of your previous videos, my jaw still drops using it. It doesn't seem thick enough to prevent my jaw from dropping. I have 2 different neck collars but I just can't get used to sleeping with it. Going to continue trying with the n30i and tape to see if I can eventually get used to it. Mouth guard isn't an option because I already have Invisalign retainers.

[@tommangan7]

Interesting to hear you tape with a full face mask, did you see improvement with taping? I mouth breathe a lot in my full face to the point my jaw falls out so have been hesitant

[@SimEngineer]

@@tommangan7 yes, no more dry mouth. I was able to stop using xylimelts and also stop waking up at 3am with a dry mouth... I was hoping to now also switch to just a nasal mask instead of full face, but I think with the full face covering my mouth with the tape, there's less differential pressure, so less strain on the tape than with just the nasal mask... I am going to give the nasal mask a try again tonight though with the tape so we will see

[@monicaperez2843]

@@tommangan7 Tom, I taped with both a partial and full face mask, and I had trouble with both. The only mask that worked with me is the ResMed AirTouch F20 mask with memory foam. Now, on rare occasions does my mouth drop open. If still having trouble, contact your respiratory therapist and sleep doctor. Good luck!

[@SimEngineer]

@@tommangan7 ok update again from last night, tried to do the n30i nasal mask only with mouth taped, also used a soft cervical collar. Still woke up in the middle of the night, first time due to being I uncomfortable with the collar. So I took that off. Went back to sleep with the nasal mask and tape. Woke up second time, checks puffed out, tape started to leak on corner of my mouth, mouth very dry and pressure very high due to leak and ramp up on the auto pressure. So I took tape and mask off... Put a new piece of tape and put my full face f30i back on. Problem solved slept uninterrupted the rest of the night. I think having the full face with the tape helps keep the difference in pressure across the tape seal less than what it would be without the full face... So when I was only using the nasal mask let's say my pressure setting was at 14, when my jaw drops and mouth puffs up, there's a 14 cm H2O difference in pressure from the tape (inside my mouth) to outside (nothing) cause there's no mask covering my mouth to supply back pressure. This high differential essentially leads to tape seal failure.... And then mouth leak. When I use the full face with the mouth tape... There's essentially a 0cm h2o difference in pressure across the tape because it's 14 inside my mouth and then 14 outside my mouth cause the full face goes over my mouth. The tape with the full face essentially just fixes the dry mouth problem by preventing me from breathing through my mouth (cause it's taped close. I have not really experienced the problem with having full face mask leaks due to jaw dropping... I have always just had the dry mouth issues.

[@tommangan7]

@@SimEngineer thank you so much for the update, I totally agree with your conclusion about the pressure difference, will give it a go myself, nasal breathing is just so much better for you and it might help my chin drop

[@lazlo09]

I cant find BSN Cover-roll strech in sweden so i bought the closest thing called leukoplast fixomull stretch and yes the adhesive is too strong. Its hard to pull off in the morning and gives me almost panic feeling knowing i cant quickly and easily pull it off if needed. Ordering cover-roll from us is possible but will cost över 30 dollar in shipping and coustom fees.

[@hoffy1003]

I just started to try this tape. I'm using a Dreamwear nasal pillow. (sitting under the nose, not IN the nose). My pressure was so high it was making me bloated. So now it's been lowered. I hope to get more success.

[@lucjulien7989]

Mouth taping for years. Best tape for me is KT tape. Flexible and soft on skin.

[@Bryan_Matthews]

@Freecpapadvice I'm currently awaiting receiving my Airsense 10. I'm very excited to see how my sleep improves from treatment. I'm also interested in looking at my data in OSCAR. I recently watched a video from Nick (Uncle Nicko) where he mentioned that you don't get all the in depth data from a base model Airsense 10 CPAP. Will I get the basic necessary data to be able to use Oscar to make any beneficial changes to my pressure if it becomes necessary? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Update - I just received my Airsense 10 and it's actually the 10 Autoset. I rewatched the video and answered my own question. They set it up as Auto with pressure of 4-20. I thought they would have set it to a specific range. Maybe they expect to make adjustments after reviewing data as I use it over time. Thank you again for all that you do.

[@patbolduc3611]

It truly works miracles.

[@arnecarlsson9740]

Some people need to tape their mouth during daytime too.

[@Freecpapadvice]

Agreed....but why are you looking at me?!?

[@JessicaLaska]

I started using tape with my full face mask because my mouth falls open. Tape works great!! Way less leaks, no dry mouth

[@fitybux4664]

Wow, I have almost no mask leak with a full face mask. I never realized how terrible it is with a nasal CPAP and open mouth at night! 😲 My dad uses a nasal CPAP and just got a band of some kind to hold his jaw shut. No idea if it's working well for him. 7:45 I just saw when you said "chinstrap = ineffective". Nice. 😀

[@peterpruimpjes]

Great video, quick question: I had large leaks in the beginning of my treatment 20L p/m....started taping, leaks reduced to almost zero 2or3L p/m at most for about 4 weeks. But now it's creeping up again with tape applied but a little less: 12L p/m... Any explanation? I'm using wide 'masking' tape for now, haven't been able to find any real Cpap tape. Thank you..

[@denkn]

I really want to try this as I have extremely dry mouth some mornings. So much so that I have to let water dribble between my lips to begin breaking it open. Problem is I imagine I would have to lose my 50 year old mustache, which my daughter and my wife would hang me for... Dilemma... I do trust your products though. I recently got a three pack of your Mask Bright and it is just amazing. So much more comfortable with that than the (bleep) SoClean unit... Thank you so much...

[@rhondaw5615]

I have tried multiple times to put Oscar on my Mac laptop and it just will not open. There’s not even an option in the drop-down for open. I’m assuming maybe this works much better on a PC? I have an older PC although I hate it. I might have to use it for Oscar. I suspect I may be needing your services in the near future although I just started so I’m trying to work out the kinks. Thanks for your videos Jason. Your personality shines through each one!

[@scowell]

I have experienced mouth dryness... was keeping a glass of water by the bed... then I got Oscar and started monitoring (I thought the dry mouth was diabetes?). Man... thanks for helping me make the correlation! I tried a night with a big bandaid on my mouth... not enough. Nest night (last night) I cut up two bandaids and used the adhesive parts (really nice cloth bandaids, 1 inch) and still had some side leakage. Now my tape (the one you recommend) is here and I'm going to tape *the shit* out of my mouth and see how it goes... expecting big things. I have a mutton-chop style moustache down the sides... this may present problems... if so, goodbye 'stache, sorry. Had a cavity filled recently, learned from here that dry mouth is probably the cause of that too. Thanks for your help Lanky!

[@scowell]

Yep... cover roll stretch tape for the win. Bye mustache, hello sleep. Everyone should be using Oscar, your doctor doesn't know crap about it. Be proactive, science the shit out of your sleep!

[@mmkat99]

I’ve only experienced mouth leak after having a uvulectomy. Switched to a respironics dream wear mask from a nasal pillow. It’s definitely better but still have this issue. Bought some tape before on Amazon and it didn’t work. I’ll try this tape you recommend. Wake up every night multiple times

[@John-viheavyequipment]

would you be able to do a video that shows what is considered an arassal, sometimes I have a flow wave that goes up to 54 instead of my normal 40 or 45 does that mean i woke up> or only if its spiky looking and multiple spikes of over 50? they usally look rounded but i'll have like 1 or 2 that go higher ever 20 mins or so

[@rickie12]

Hey Lefty, great video! Do you have any video showing "breathing" results ? Whats a good breathing results or how to read the breathing section either in oscar or sleephq. Thanks in advance.

[@catchup4430]

Man I enjoy your videos it’s really educated me I’m looking for a résumé at 10 and they’re getting hard to fine do you have one that you’re willing to sell or know where I can buy one Grace and peace man

[@badoldbiker368]

I suppose there is not much chance of this working when you have a long beard and mo? If I don't have oscar how do I know if I'm mouth leaking?

[@Freecpapadvice]

I do have videos to help 'dudes with beards'. Double sided moldable mouthguard, denture cream on lips, or both together.

[@badoldbiker368]

@@Freecpapadvice Thanks Lanky, I'll look them up, I don't think I have a problem but listening to you about the way it is displayed on OSCAR it is worth looking into. By the way.....I liked your input on Nicks Foamgate song he is putting together.

[@cameronk544]

Been taping for a long time. Even use with a full face Vitara mask.

[@hughbrackett343]

I'd add a blindfold for the full hostage experience. On second thought, I'll keep my full face mask (Quattro fx).

[@karenzimmer7607]

I tape but last night i woke up several times with my mouth major dry. I use PAPMD but will try cover all and add it over the top. Don't see how I'm still mouth breathing that bad by using tape.

[@stevesanders8172]

Got my cover roll stretch tape and will test it tonight

[@aegisgfx]

Are there any potential issues with the Co2 blower getting blocked during the night with your mouth taped?

[@earlhaupenthal2444]

I have severe sleep apnea. I have to tape my mouth even with a full face mask because of dry mouth and I like breathing through my nose

[@parkernoble2291]

I wanted to love your tape idea, but my side-sleeping-drooling ways (even with humidifier off) sabotage the tape's seal. I recently switched from my go-to F&P Brevida to a Resmed F30i (only 2 nights) and am hopeful.

[@veryberry39]

I just asked if taping would keep me from drooling, lol...I should have scrolled the comments first!

[@NickRoeder]

@@veryberry39 Cover-roll keeps my mouth sealed. I occasionally drooled before. It's still worth a shot if you're thinking about experimenting with mouth tape and you drool.

[@wetrock2766]

@@veryberry39 I fixed my drooling problem by making sure my skin is clean and not a bit oily, I wash and rinse before applying the tape (3M Micropore 2" wide.) go wide and cover up to 1 inch on either side of the mouth, apply two overlapped pieces, from the base of your nose to your chin. Don't turn your humidifier off, you'll get sinus issues. Some foods promote saliva production, don't eat anything 3 hours before going to bed.

[@Doc1310]

Tape vs. chin strap? Wouldn’t the chin strap be easier and more comfortable than ripping tape off of your mouth in the morning? I do have mouth leaks and hate the chin strap, but I’m thinking that I would hate tape even more. I’m guessing that with tape you would have to shave before sleeping. Last year when I told the sleep clinic that I was considering duct tape they laughed and sent me out a Respironics Deluxe chin strap ref# 302425. I guess either way it takes getting use to.

[@martynenichols3089]

I’ve tried 5 diff chin straps. No help.

[@catallergiccat]

@@martynenichols3089yes, chinstrap is meant to improve jaw dripping not mouth leaking. But all doctors would go against mouth taping.

[@xjarhd570]

What are good bad avg leak rates

[@joeythemoose]

I made a huge mistake 1 night when I didn’t purse my lips together, I got too much of the inner lip and when I took the tape off I got a good nick of skin that went with it. My lip was bleeding for awhile and it really stung .

[@wetrock2766]

You can put lip balm as an extra safety feature.

[@joeythemoose]

@@wetrock2766 gonna try this tonight!

[@scowell]

I now use tape *with* full-face mask... it helps with jaw drop and drooling... and mouth-breathing too.

[@tonehernandez8598]

Love your videos 👍

[@ROG958]

i use full face because i open my mouth as soon as i am asleep. My mouth gets so dry. Would tape help?

[@fitybux4664]

Do you use a humidifier with your full face mask? You really shouldn't need tape with a full face mask.

[@sirenmuscle]

I only motorboat on Saturday nights.

[@artistpina]

I’ve been using Myotape to tape my mouth with my Simplus mask, worked brilliantly but after 4 nights it has started to pull my skin off on removal. Why can’t I tape my mouth with a full face mask?

[@wetrock2766]

Myotape might have too strong a glue. I have good sucess with 3M Micropore tape.

[@larsonl6376]

How do you tape mouth with facial hair? I has a short beard and stick tape to lips - and its terrible getting the tape off!

[@DoubtingThomas333]

Use sensitive tape. Trauma free tape

[@toddo7568]

You speak gospel, you long-nosed wacky crazy maverick wild man! I never heard of mouth taping until your videos. I thought you were crazy, but I am a true believer now (in taping AND your questionable sanity). It was a game changer for me. The chinstrap never worked for me and I had crazy patterns on my face all day from it. The mouthguard made me drool like Hooch (or is it Turner)? A couple comments/questions: - i’ve seen the little lip tape things that have a split in the middle, I presume to allay people‘s fears of suffocating. Doesn’t that just create more leaking/whistling? - you seem to have a perpetual stubble on your face. How do you get the tape to stick? I find that if I don’t shave less than 12 hours before going to sleep the tape peels up the corners and whistles like a tea kettle. - I am not a trained Pollyanna Philatelist like yourself, but I do have a pro tip for those worried about waking up in a panic and needing to pull off the tape (to cough, hurl, etc). A dog you’re one corner of my tape; gives good peace of mind and makes it easy to pull off in the morning. Now that I think of it, I might have gotten that tip from you originally. - I find that when I tape effectively, and fall asleep and my muscles relax, my jaw opens and my cheeks pop out like a puffer fish. any problem with that (other than completely and forever turning off my bed partner)? Thanks again for all your videos. You really have changed my life with these. No joke.

[@Eric-fz7on]

Tried the tape and holy cow my AHI went from 1.0 to .3 the first night! Thanks 🙏

[@Freecpapadvice]

Nice work!

[@paolomondelo]

Hi Eric, what mask are you using?

[@Eric-fz7on]

@@paolomondelo Nasal pillows. The mask was too claustrophobic for me.

[@diannedugan]

I just packed up my CPAP gear today and stored it in the closet. I sleep so much better without it. I got tired of always being tired. I woke up frequently during the night and struggled with trying several different masks. Had marks that lasted for HOURS on my face after getting up in the morning. So-- Can I tape my mouth and not use CPAP?

[@Freecpapadvice]

Email me tonight or tomorrow with your contact information. Use my business email address.

[@wetrock2766]

Good luck, persevere, having sleep problems could have dramatic effects on your health, a CPAP machine is a good way to limit the damage but many things have to fit well together, Jason can certainly help you.

[@monicaperez2843]

Dianne, please don't give up! It takes 30 - 90 days to get used to CPAP. Also be prepared to go through several masks types/sizes. Beg you to call your respiratory therapist and sleep doctor. Tell them what you told us. Can't stress enough to exhaust CPAP before considering UUUP(?) and Inspire surgery. Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA) does not go away by itself, and taping alone doesn't treat it.

[@fitybux4664]

That is so sad to hear. You will literally die sooner if you have untreated sleep apnea. (There are studies to back up what I'm saying.) I had a father in-law that passed away like this. After his death, his children are mad at him for being untreated. (It felt like years have been robbed from them.) Don't give up. Or if you do, at least allow that CPAP to go to another good home before it becomes outdated equipment. Get a better mask, or get a better machine. Pester your doctor.

[@sxshn8]

Great advice! I'm not sure what my numbers are looking like, but I've noticed that I've had vivid dreams. One other side effect is my ears clog. When I 2ake up, it take 5 or 10 min for my ears to "pop" Is this okay? Or should I see an ENT specialist? Thank you sir!

[@Freecpapadvice]

Check to see if your pressures are appropriate using OSCAR. Also use a saline spray prior to bedtime and make use of the humidifier. If you are still getting the need to pop, a consult with an ENT would be a good idea.

[@fitybux4664]

@@Freecpapadvice Is it weird that I use earplugs every night because I also have the popping, and wearing earplugs prevents this? Psychosomatic / placebo effect maybe? Or am I actually preventing pressure from going back through my ear canal somehow?

[@magalicarver6850]

Is micropore tape the same thing as paper tape?

[@thecancerrevolution3134]

Why not just use a F30i?

[@sylvia4425]

*Today is: 4/26/2022...I'm having Cataract surgery soon....do I need to worry about having a CPAP machine on during procedure?? It's not a full anesthesia sedation....I'm having what they call a "Twilight Sedation"....like for Colonoscopies. Anyone can answer. Thank you!*

[@DoubtingThomas333]

They can just give you oxygen if your saturation gets low. They're paying attention to your vitals the whole time

[@rwandrew077]

Thank you....I bought Cover roll!!!!

[@sedelstein]

Can you really tell arousals from air flow rates, without EEG?

[@fitybux4664]

Why wouldn't he just use an EEG every night? Not his $5k setup (that I'm sure takes time to put on), but some consumer level sleep EEG.

[@sedelstein]

@@fitybux4664 I'm not saying he wouldn't or shouldn't. In this video he's pointing at the air flow rate curve (no EEG) and "finding" arousals. I'm just asking if it's really possible to tell arousals just from the flow rate.

[@fitybux4664]

@@sedelstein Got it. Your question just brought that thought into my head. 😀 If you were collecting lots of data, you might be able to find a correlation or develop a model between them.

[@bw7057]

My mouth is agape during sleep and dries right out even with a full face mask. I’ve done everything you’ve suggested.

[@Freecpapadvice]

With FFM use a soft cervical collar, or KnightsBridge chinstrap. You need to keep your chin from moving or falling back. It will create a mask leak that wakes up up constantly.

[@bw7057]

Thanks for replying… I’ve got the collar and a chinstrap, not KnightsBridge though, I have the Respironics strap. I’ll look into the KnightsBridges. I find with the collar, as long as I stay on my back it works ok, but I’m a side sleeper. I’ve tried the Somnifix, but it doesn’t stick well on my left side for some strange reason. I did try that cover-roll tape last night. Its the next best thing to duct tape, why didn’t I know about this stuff when I had little kids? I got success from that tape with the nasal pillows. However, I would rather not tape. I guess it may be my only alternative 😕.

[@Freecpapadvice]

Collar needs to be very snug in how it fits. Knightsbridge works really well.....but you look mildly "honk" wearing it. Only use tape with a nasal or nasal pillow mask. (video on this soon)

[@bw7057]

I looked at the chinstrap 😳. I think if I get that my wife will leave me after she posts pics all over the inter-web… 🤣 Ok, I’ll try the collar again tonight and keep my tape and nasal mask nearby. Thanks again! 👍😎

[@kenrhino7904]

Did he just say "motorboating?" 🤣🤣🤣

[@tonehernandez8598]

Can i still tape my mouth even with a full face mask ? Would i notice a difference ?

[@ryk1265]

I use a full face mask (Air Fit 20) and I have a chin strap called "Morpheus" and attached a VCOM at the elbow of the hose, absolutely ZERO leak

[@vikasgupta1828]

Thanks

[@paolomondelo]

Hi,is this advisable if im using a full face mask?

[@Freecpapadvice]

No.

[@paolomondelo]

@thelankylefty27 hi, thank you for answering my newbie question. Im just curious …what happens if i tape my mouth and use a full face mask cpap? 🤔🤔🤔

[@joeythemoose]

Just to clarify… are we no longer cutting a slit in the middle? I thought that was a must before?

[@wetrock2766]

A slit defeats the purpose of taping.

[@Freecpapadvice]

I did it initially because I was a timid crybaby about dying in my sleep. Then I remembered that dying in your sleep is the preferred way of going. The slit wasn't working for me. Still a really dry mouth. I stopped the slit and reached the promised land. I did have the power go out on me and it wasn't a big deal. Now I have a UPS, so it's not a big deal if the power goes out.

[@joeythemoose]

@@Freecpapadvice I have a cat that’s been trying to murderize me… she’ll hop on to the button and turn it off on me… that’s been fun… I was too scared to not do the slit last night… maybe all be brave and do it tonight 🤷‍♂️ either way… my cat will probably get me some day

[@fitybux4664]

@@joeythemoose You could put the CPAP in a giant box with holes, or you could put the cat into a giant box with holes. 😆 Good luck.

[@joeythemoose]

@@fitybux4664 I shall consider both

[@bozardio]

I tried this out and it didn’t work well for me compared to a chin strap. I still ended up with a dry mouth when my jaw opened even though my lips stayed taped shut. The chin strap has prevented the jaw from opening in the first place. I’ve yet to have a dry mouth issue while wearing the chin strap. That said, I sure wish I didn’t need it suddenly. I went years not needing one.

[@fitybux4664]

Are you using a humidifier? It's possible a chinstrap isn't holding your mouth closed, and you're getting extra moisture from this. Then doing taping = no extra moisture = dry mouth.

[@bozardio]

@@fitybux4664 I am not having problems when I use a chin strap, only if I do tape only.

[@fitybux4664]

@@bozardio Any leaks in either case though?

[@DoubtingThomas333]

Why not use a soft cervical collar instead?

[@sedelstein]

Can this tape be applied on stubble face or with very short beard (and removed painlessly)?

[@ratbob44]

I'd like to know that, too.

[@leesass3602]

It works fine for me although my beard and moustache are only about 3/8ths of an inch long. Might be different if they were longer

[@sedelstein]

@@leesass3602 thanks! I'll try it out and report back.

[@ratbob44]

@@leesass3602 thanks for your response.

[@sedelstein]

@@ratbob44 Confirmed: it works and peels off fine on 1/4" beard

[@johnossendorf9979]

Is all of this information gathered by your CPAP machine ? Also, as a man who has been continuously bearded since 1984 and only occasionally having a dry mouth with my nasal mask, this sounds outlandish. I'd definitely try a chin strap first if woke with a dry mouth more often.

[@fitybux4664]

If you have a modern machine, literally every single breath in and out and whatever pressure level that is, are recorded by the machine. Lots of derived information from that in other graphs.

[@AAAReview]

How deep does it have to be when you've got to tape your mouth shut to get a good night's sleep

[@ryanjohnson4239]

How does tape work when you have facial hair?

[@Freecpapadvice]

It works better without facial hair. Bushy beards are usually a no go. Progressively better with less hair.

[@mky5845]

If i change to Bipap gonna fix this?

[@mky5845]

Love your video btw

[@DoubtingThomas333]

No

[@DoubtingThomas333]

Bipap is literally using two pumps to have two different pressures running at the same time Bipap normally reserved for cpap users who need high pressure values and cannot tolerate the exhale pressure. EPR only works so well on cpap machines.

[@johnbibens2643]

Can you tape your mouth if you have a beard?

[@Freecpapadvice]

You can try. BSN Cover Roll Stretch 2 x 10 tape is your best bet. Tough with a beard though.

[@gerij777]

I have the mask that is almost a full face - the top of the mask has a cut out opening that goes under the nose. Should I use the tape?

[@parkernoble2291]

If your mask covers your mouth, don't use tape.

[@wilkinru]

Taping my mouth has been amazing. The CPAP doesnt even help me a ton anymore. I sleep half the time without it and the data from my O2 sensor shows its pretty much the same. I just am a mouth breather when I sleep.

[@NickRoeder]

Which 02 sensor do you use? I use the Wellue 02 Ring and it works great but I like to keep up with what's out there.

[@wilkinru]

@@NickRoeder same one here.

[@dcole9589]

@@NickRoeder I use the Wellue O2 ring as well. Excellent monitor. Like to compare stats with the resmed 10. Also use vitasleep mouth guard so NO leaks AND teeth grinding.

[@nolifeSnorlax]

If you need a tape why not use a full face mask?

[@Freecpapadvice]

Because: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omjTdqptftuZmac

[@Capt-Intrepid]

Many have some minor mouth leaks but not enough to adversely affect therapy. Minor / occasional leaks do not warrant taping. If necessary, I would get a full face mask before I would tape my mouth shut. To each his own.