3's & 7's - MAP12: The Righteous and the Wicked (Ultra-Violence 100%)

[@pelao8813]

Hello, map maker over here. I just wanted to say thanks for playing my map and also for your videos. I've been watching your channel since 2019 and never got bored a single bit. You are one of the reasons I'm still playing Doom and making maps, and I highly appreciate it. As for the map: - I named it that way because I didn't knew how else to call it, and I'm a big QOTSA fan so I choose that name. - I took inspiration from Haste map 12, the starting room to be specific. - The flag on the floor wasn't meant to be a sign of disrespectful but as I suck at using Slade and using custom textures I couldn't place it standing, so I choose to draw it on the floor to make seem like the demons threw it. And the whole reason it was there Is because us Chileans always get hyped when Chile is mentioned in the media, like movies and stuff haha. I wish the Doom community in Chile were bigger... :( But anyway, that's all I got to say VIVA CHILE MIERDA!!! - Pelao

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Abraço brasileiro para nossos irmãos chilenos!

[@pongchan8982]

Glad you explained why the flag is on the floor

[@sakitoshi]

good to see a fellow countryman and that your submission got chosen. i sure chuckled when decino showed the chilean flag.

[@Bart_Fuzz]

A Doomer AND a QOTSA fan. I see you're a man of coulture as well! :D

[@woosh_hunter]

cool map

[@dinitroacetylen]

decino drinking game. Down a shot every time decino - scoffs at a chainsaw; - starts questioning the choice of the source port for a map; - steps into a pool of goo and wonders if it is a damaging floor; - says softened versions of sensitive or controversial words; - starts humping walls in search for the last secret; - admires doomcute; - points out basic mapping errors; - demonstrates emotion; - flawlessly two-shots a cyberdemon. Down two when he - realises that he needs the chainsaw by map design; - concludes that the submitter-suggested source port doesn't work; - summons the Muscular Pooh; - flawlessly punches out a cyberdemon. Down the whole bottle when he - says he loves the chainsaw; - manages to softlock a map just trying to figure out where to go; - drops a "cluster F-bomb"; - flawlessly wastes a whole crowd of cyberdemons, only to be splattered by the last remaining demon on the map. More suggestions?

[@allesklarklaus147]

running around getting to know the map and waking up all the demons at once

[@KernelLeak]

*_*hic*_* _Nope, all __-wobbly-__ good..._

[@Jurarigo]

Down a shot when he stops to admire the use of fireblue and/or a techpillar.

[@n3onkn1ght]

Refers to a megasphere as "something very nice" or "a tasty mega".

[@Raiggonaxes]

Down two shots when he refers to something as *_pesky_* "Pesky Revenants" is one of my fave pairings XD

[@Konohashinobi2007]

I really like the secret at 10:41 where it changes the map to make a fight easier, rather than the more common gun/ammo/megasphere. Pretty unique and interesting!

[@Chukoko]

JAJAJAJAJAJA! escuchar a Decino decir "wena wena" fue una gran sorpresa, un abrazo desde Chile!!!

[@Agora0000]

Siempre hay un chileno

[@jojo0753]

That moment when you were brought to 1% health was very tense.

[@vonBelfry]

"This one has quite a hot start..." > promptly bursts into flames

[@OptimusShr]

Considering the enemy count I don't think anyone can blame you for doing this practiced.

[@decino]

Well, the submitter requested a practised run. The submissions overview in the description shows the requested format.

[@connerthecat4758]

🔥 start! A secret that makes the final fight easier - pretty great idea for a secret, like it a lot!

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Secrets that give you tactical advantages rather than items are super underrated. Trip Switch set the standard, now mappers gotta do it more.

[@francescoperi7810]

I came here to say this! The terrain-altering secret was a smart design choice, I could have done with a little more praise!

[@doomerrasa8475]

Shoutout to indoors green marble levels filled with nasty pop-up fights, gotta be my favourite gender

[@Khrada]

Those high damage rolls always come at you when you least expect it.

[@riba2233]

The righteous and the wicked, war and peace, The kiIIing fist of the human beast!

[@PhildoBaggins]

Chill person reporting

[@DoomKnight07]

Heck yeah 🤙

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Chill watcher #3 radioing in

[@karlk5801]

Chile person reporting

[@silky_merkin]

Practiced run always good stuff. Blind run would have been death death death and then a practiced run anyway. Also, reckless Decino is best Decino.

[@kizmetmars]

I like both blind and practiced. I used to hate the blind ones but, on maps that are easy, they're great. The mixture between them both keeps things fresh and with how they're played. Although, sometimes it's fun to see how far you get going blind into a difficult level.

[@RandomCanEHdian]

Queens of the Stone Age REFERENCED

[@petr0rabbit]

blind? oh it's explained later but the intro says blind

[@eddiesalinas]

at 0:01 he says "100% blind" but then at 4:35 "...it is practiced..."

[@decino]

It's practised. The intro was recorded much later and I forgot to omit the blind part.

[@petr0rabbit]

@@decino I figured. no worries pumpkinman

[@alexandersmith6140]

Decino has just huffed a lot of spice, and so has enough prescience to know what the level requires at the moment he plays it. It's pretty simple.

[@OmarHermann]

Its blind for the person who first sees it for the first time

[@dreadwanderer]

Tight map, I think a blind run recording could have ended up as an ordeal. Really close calls here, exciting stuff!

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I get the info may be from the README file, but the music listed is incorrect. The real song title is "The Enchanted Cathedral" and it hails from Hexen II.

[@decino]

My mistake. For some reason I thought Speed of Doom MAP20 used the same MIDI so I looked up the Doom wiki page for SoD20 for the song title. You've guessed it: completely different song. Whoopsie.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@decino FWIW, you do remember correctly that this was used in a Doom map Except it was Sunlust map26, not SoD map20.

[@requem90]

It's also used in SoD MAP 10 so you weren't that far wrong tho

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@requem90 No, that map uses the original from Heretic. This is an extended remix used in Hexen II.

[@requem90]

@@DinnerForkTongue alright I wasn’t aware of that because this map, Sunlust 26 and SoD 10 are really similar in sound 😅

[@leoneldoleschal1194]

Al right this submissions are awesome

[@proosee]

yeah, all are awesome

[@ThatRedHusky]

Toying with low% gaming so much I'm gonna start calling you Zeromaster!

[@DogsRNice]

I like how this map begins with doom guy ascending from a pool of blood and instantly begins killing demons It's like a reverse horror movie

[@DerPille]

I am team "both enjoyer" 😊

[@askthedoctor8696]

Another treat! I wonder if Decino's doggo gets so many treats as we do lately. With all my best wishes to mini pumpkin and pumpkin mom!

[@Gabrulo_knifemaking]

you are one of the few channels that i watch every single video, never skipped one, i enjoy every single one and when i see a yellow background in the preview i get very happy

[@Nob1ej0n]

That 1% hype! Yeah, you could tell from the hot start this wouldn't work blind. I think I'm one of the "chill" gamers who's cool with both blind and practice runs (5:00). Although I do occasionally/frequently drop criticism on the map designs, so it's hard to say I'm "chill". 😅 I didn't pick up on that Queen's of the Stone Age reference in the name. 🤦‍♂ Glad you called it out so I could look it up, listen, and remember. Like others have said, I dig that secret that makes an arena fight easier.

[@audiosurfarchive]

_"The truth hurts so bad, wouldn't you say; so why tell it?_ _If ignorance is bliss, I'm in heaven now.."_

[@ItsBofu]

Neat level and exactly the sort of stuff I love to see on viewer submissions!

[@Chunes3]

The concept of a secret making an arena easier to fight in is so cool. I wonder why you don't see it that often.

[@artebirklaus]

The close calls make it more interesting to watch, even when it is not a blind run, so no problem there =)

[@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon]

Ahhh yes. My favourite Heretic midi track used in yet another Doom map. Me likey! 🤗

[@justarandomguy6456]

love the color scheme

[@DinnerForkTongue]

YMMV, but I'm always bored by green marble and blood. It's such an overused aesthetic.

[@xcoder1122]

I generally prefer blind runs, unless the level is really difficult. Blind runs are cool because I feel like the player and I can discover the level together, it's like we're going on an adventure. But if the level is really hard, it can be difficult to find a good tactic. Then you might need a bit of trial and error to figure out where to go first, how best to deal with a large group of enemies, how to use resources wisely, etc. And then I prefer a practiced run, because that's like a tutorial where an expert (the player) teaches a beginner (that's basically me) what they've figured out and what tactics they've gone with, and that's cool too. It has that Bob Ross vibe, where you enjoy watching someone doing something that looks so super easy when he does it until you try it for yourself and figure out, it wasn't easy at all, it was skill.

[@Olek54321]

2nd secret is so clever, I love it! I mean the reward, instead of providing health/armor/ammo it changes the map. This is true secret, nice! I assume, without secret these are pits with no escape, right? I missed hot start and more difficult map, this one was pretty good! :D Awesome job by map maker, very crepy music and such dark, atmospheric map design. Plutonia 2 HUD! ♥

[@carlosvergara4132]

Oh wow, Chile metion, wena pelao! Hearing "wena wena" from decino is quite the shock :P

[@georgeheilman885]

Another really cool and clever submission. Pleased to be watching.

[@iguana9173]

This was a really great level.

[@sebapotatoboy3683]

thank you for absolutely carrying my weekends, i would be so bored without you 🙏🙏💖

[@Ironstarfish]

I dont always like blind runs, i like it balanced! I realy dont like wall humping for secrets for 10min. Thank you for the practiced run.

[@carlosvergara4132]

Blind, practiced, doesn't matter, I'm here for the narration!

[@AB0BA_69]

Map creator puts you in hallways fight Revenants... ...but makes the hallways wide enough to dodge their missiles! Merciful! 😂

[@LAMAROUX34]

What a start ! lucky with those hitscanners at the beginning too !

[@OfficeHyena]

That outside fight with cyber demon is so cool, beautiful map

[@shadowcat6lives639]

I like the yellow map button. Really well done from a map making perspective and unique from a design . :)

[@pCadavez]

Just coming here for the obligatory SOMO EL MEJOR PAÍS DE CHILE HERMANO

[@jerome_dangelo]

No acting. No screaming. Just my 100% blind playthroughs that were clearly practiced.

[@decino]

What a fraud.

[@kagemarunl]

The start of this map would be insane on nightmare or with fast monsters! Nicely done on surviving that! :O

[@kagemarunl]

Oh! And I am definitely on team "Enjoying Both". Just seeing these quick runs and you remembering all the details of the map is amazing to watch! ✨

[@LENKRAD]

I think blind runs are more entertaining than planned, especially if oneself has not played the map before. However I think it's highly depending on the difficulty and lenght. This one for example blind would take a lot more time (and possible frustration?) since it seems a lot more difficult than the other submissions. *Edit: Wrote this when decino was talking about what people prefere. This map does not just seem harder ;)

[@DinnerForkTongue]

For chiller wads with lots to see like AUGER;ZENITH blind works best by far. For harder stuff, practiced lets pumpkin man be slick. But I'll certainly take both.

[@GreatFox42]

Yes, strict compatibility settings in any zdoom-derived port will re-engage the blockmap bug. It would be nice if any other source port would give the same _option_ but. The only ports I know of that fix the bug are z-family, Doom 64 EX, and one of the small forks of Russian Doom. Those are the only ones I know.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I sure wish DSDA had disabling the blockmap bug as a special compat option. It already has non-infinite height for solid corpse decos, why not this?

[@GreatFox42]

@@DinnerForkTongue That always bugged me, even way back when prBoom was the purist port of choice. They will let you change a bunch of other gameplay options that basically render demos unusable (which is the usual "justification" I hear), but making hitscan go where you point? Making the chainsaw NOT useless? _That's_ a step too far?

[@DinnerForkTongue]

​@@GreatFox42 Absolutely. And those that claim this aren't even coders, which only makes it more egregious.

[@riba2233]

Do you know the name of the setting? Thanks!

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@riba2233 "Use original Doom code for hitscan checks", I think.

[@TreuloseTomate]

Cool secret modifying the arena instead of giving material reward.

[@stug3719]

I prefer blind runs, but let's be honest, I'll watch anything pumpkinman uploads.

[@Askytrill]

Another level with Hexen II music! :D

[@bdschannel4733]

Well done, I got all the items! Very nice map!

[@XyrxesTube]

I find your prepared videos much better. You always explain things so well. And running around searching and fighting the same enemies over and over again is a bit boring for me. I really like watching all of your videos. But I like the ones like this one the best. And when you use the Berserker, I always think it's really great 😀 I've played so much classic doom in my life that I'm always happy when people work efficiently. The Berserker is a great tool for that. It's great that you're making videos again. I really missed them. I hope your family is healthy and you're doing great. Keep it up

[@MugMow]

Looks good, will definitely try this one

[@aanproduction1516]

10:20 love that archie analysis video reference

[@DEdens1525]

That was great, more of that please.

[@TheBrutalDoomer]

Gotta admit, that was youtube-unfriendly at times, too dark. Great map nonetheless, the dark palace vibes are oozing.

[@TheWizardHW]

Pelao is a colloquial Chilean way of saying pelado, which means bald.

[@carpediemarts705]

Good to see you play hard and not die. Good non blind rin.

[@camilaascencio9855]

SOMOS EL MEJOR PAÍS DE CHILE HERMANOOO 🇨🇱 HAHAHA WENA WENA DECINO MY DAY IS SO MADE 😂😂😂😂

[@TheRealNormanBates]

4:00 nice health! I also noticed the music is a modified track from *Heretic*

[@chainedkong5298]

Chile mentioned 🥳 🇨🇱

[@campionpesate4647]

Ha, music from hexen 2.

[@Qoko88]

Blind, not blind... IMO a mix is good, so this was a surprise compared to the newbie or more relaxed maps we've had so far. Am I supposed to know Pelao from other projects? Somehow it rings a bell but can't pinpoint it exactly... this map is pretty amazing though, varied, some nasty encounters and I especially like unique secrets like telefrags or geometry changes like here, or vantage points etc.

[@МаксимБумбумбум]

Shrodinger blind

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

I like it when decino calls us turbo nerds 🤓

[@DonIgnacioA]

decino Chileno, decino Chileno

[@TheRogueWolf]

You only need 1% health to kill demons!

[@CarlosBarros-nr2ye]

8:07 somoh el.mejor país de Chile hermano😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I did not expect to see my flag😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Flickeralex]

That's a cool map!

[@jameslangridge1674]

I'm in team "enjoy both"

[@vojtechvanek1686]

Very nice map

[@kwahn106]

Chill People Who Enjoy Both GANG RISE UP! 5:00 - for me, blind on really cool/adventurey/outlandish maps, and practiced on brutal stuff, is my preference! Why not show your transition from blind to practiced (probably in separate videos/channels) for the truly degenerate who'll watch anything? :D

[@riba2233]

Same 😊

[@phelddagrif1377]

About you wondering whether you managed to kill both archies at the very end: The annoying thing in my opinion, and in this context the neat thing, about GZDoom is that archies resurrecting monsters raises the kill count so I could tell by looking it go one up that archie was still alive. What makes it even more annoying is that Lost Souls counts towards the kill count, and yes, Pain Elemental spawing Lost Souls also raises it...

[@JangianTV]

Sick gothic map, and actually nice to see a practiced map after a while. Also, 04:00, how did you not point out that you had nice health?! 😂

[@Kingdramana]

"A bit reckless" Yeah, if not learning that you get stuck on the geometry easily, that Revenant's missiles are targeting you and that going up close to the stairs while Cyber targets you is "just a bit" on the reckless side. Sure.

[@scottl.1568]

I represent the silent majority that wants some Doom 3 custom maps...

[@breekiwalker]

Missed opportunity for a Queen's of the Stone Age midi 😢

[@scottl.1568]

Nobody has ever seen the Hellknight and the Hellbaron in the same place at the same time, prove me wrong 😅

[@alexandersmith6140]

So, did you already play this a while back, and that's why you decided to practice and then record a slick run? Or, did you play it blind and subsequently feel like it would provide better content as a slick run? Or did you think even before you started playing it that you felt like uploading a slick run instead of a blind run? Just curious. I'm not sure why I'm curious, but I am.

[@decino]

The submitter wanted a practised run. You can see on the submissions overview page in the description. The intro mentioning blind was a slip up.

[@alexandersmith6140]

@@decino Ohhh. I missed that detail in the submission process. My bad. Thanks for taking the time to clarify that; that's immensely patient of you.

[@adinocc2042]

Good one!

[@pirrracy]

nobody I knew had a mouse when doom came out. we all played on keyboard. is this mouse input?

[@decino]

It is. Doom has had mouse support since the very beginning.

[@silky_merkin]

We* all played on keyboard because we didn't know any better and just how it was done. I'm still pretty competent with just a kb but it's inferior to say the least. *experiences may vary

[@XenoSpyro]

What is usually the purpose of mounting mods and maps on other iwads versus just using Doom 2 for everything?

[@decino]

Exclusive textures from the IWAD.

[@domasnaudziunas8654]

The whole wad is pretty brutal to casual players like me

[@ikkenokmeddet]

Tak!

[@decino]

Cheers!

[@ShMokou]

1:30 doom soft shadows, my bellowed.

[@TheRuinsfate]

5:00 I enjoy both :)

[@roflmagister5]

Ugh. The map data is DOOM, but it exercises a few mapinfo or so specials that (IMO unnecessarily) make this gzdoom-specific.

[@audiosurfarchive]

QOTSA BAYBEEEEE

[@babelfish9948]

I know you put a link to download the wad but is there any link where I can download the wad with the text file with the information about the wad?

[@decino]

The submission came with no text file.

[@lankymaccrazyhair264]

I see why you didn't blind run this one. That opening alone is reason enough to practice. Seems like a good level, though! very square, but that's not nessisarally a bad thing.

[@scottl.1568]

Why didn't you punch the robot spider to death??

[@Malikor]

Is the plasma sound from the wad or have you changed in gzdoom somehow? I try to edit each wad before I play it because the the original sound is too harsh for my taste. It's like a sonic boom.

[@decino]

The WAD.

[@kallekivimaki7825]

What a cool map it's sad that it's not DSDA doom compatable

[@decino]

If you modify the titlescreen into a Doom graphic it should be fully playable.

[@silky_merkin]

Maybe there's an analysis video, but what is the code behind red screens? Relative damage taken? Always wondered.

[@decino]

More damage = more red.

[@nikitapetrenko1236]

Blind practice

[@paulsibilleau3639]

Chile's Flag caught me off guard...btw, Plutonia or Plutonia 2?

[@decino]

Plutonia is less exhausting.

[@circle9nerd]

Mo-floor = Mo-bility 😉

[@proosee]

The intro says it's blind, but commentary says is suggesting it's not, so I'm a bit confused

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Watch further ahead. He explains it.

[@decino]

The intro mistakingly says blind.

[@proosee]

@@decino no worries, I adore both, I was just confused at the start. I also always had impression that you record intro last, but that was just a guess.

[@proosee]

@@DinnerForkTongue thx

[@linhaynee4709]

3:44 im mewing,bye bye 🤫