.30-30 Bullet Drop - Demonstrated and Explained

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[@maxloader5278]

Very hard to get tight groups without a free-floated barrel but the 30-30 is still one of my favorite because it is so fun to shoot. It kind of takes you back in time when hunting was a little bit harder. You can put thousands in a rig and go out and put the crosshairs on a deer at several hundred yards and make it look easy with an ethical shot at that range, but getting a Marlin or Winchester in 30-30 and putting venison on the table is priceless.

[@ExcavationNation]

Thats why I love it its just like the 1800s wild west no fancy sights no over thinking just a gun thats not incredibly good at anything but its simple and reliable

[@johnv8274]

I agree I love my 30-30 it's a good rifle and I can always depend on it and it's good for what I want

[@ExcavationNation]

@@johnv8274 its like an old Chevy always starts not winning any contests but its always ready when you need has enough power if you need it

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Personally think it's the external hammer and slow lock time.

[@michellewilt4479]

My 30-30 is my baby. She's the only gun I'd run back into a burning house for. I know you say it's hard to get tight groups without a free floating barrel, but with the right ammo I can put a full magazine inside a dime at 50 yards with that rifle. I've got her set up with a high mount scope, because my eyeballs just aren't what they used to be with iron sights, but it's a tack driver. I've got other rifles set up for other things, but where I hunt, you can't really see too far beyond 100 yards unless you get in the exact right spot of a high ridge line.

[@ExcavationNation]

My favorite Bing bang of all time as a kid I shot one! Felt like a cowboy fell in loved. THE DAY I turned 18. I bought the pretty brass one from Walmart. That gun is the best thing I own. Usually as a kid you find something you want and you save up blah blah. And normally after 3 weeks you move on to something else. But I saved up for 10 years. Im not kidding. At 18 I pulled the little safe out with the old Kodak picture of me shooting it at 8. Took that box to walmart and bought it. My dream came true the day I bought that gun. ❤🇺🇸

[@ExcavationNation]

Got a little tear from telling that story. BUT ONLY A LITTLE ONE. 💪💪💪😎

[@markeastham3095]

Even your ammo boxes are upside down. Your upright but you have a rare rifle in your hands with it being left handed. 🤔

[@ExcavationNation]

@@markeastham3095 yea man you commented in the wrong section lol.

[@toddk1377]

@@ExcavationNation That's cool man! My first 30-30 was a Winchester model 94, '90s production. It was a sweet shooter. Took my first hog with it. I was 19 when I bought it. Sold it when I was 26. I missed having a 30-30 so much, I had to get another so last year I bought a Sears model 54 30-30 and it's just a rebranded Winchester 94. I've only tried PPU and Hornady in it but so far the Hornady is the better performer.

[@eac1235]

Yep. There are things you fall in love with as a child especially guns and cars and lots of inexpensive things as well. Until you get them as an adult you almost feel incomplete lol. For me it's a Colt Python. 357 and a Ruger Mini 14. I have 2 Minis and a .357 but not a Colt Python, yet ! It still bugs me about the Python and yet I have owned several Firebird/Trans Am ( I'm from the Smokey and the Bandit generation, lol) . The small things are say a Buck 110 knife and the Schrade Stockman. I wonder how many here own one of these knives?? Anyway have a great day!

[@lessharratt8719]

Kind of mirrors and supports Paul Harrell's video on the 30-30. Much more accurate and able to reach out farther than many of the commenters in this vid think. There are still people claiming that this round is only accurate to something like 75 yards. I am guessing they never owned or hunted with a 30-30 and are just repeating old wives tales. Zero at 125 and you can hold iron sights right on at 50 100 150 with a reasonable expectation of success.

[@jameshill3278]

Bro,is yer camara image backwards ? (At the beginning it looks like the loading gate is on the opposite side ,and yer hat and ammo are spelled backwards ,but when yer shootin'...it was right ) keep up the great videos!!! Later !

[@ditchdigger93]

@@jameshill3278 I was going to make the same comment about everything being backwards when he was home. I've got a friend that I give hell all the time about wasting target paper as he makes a lot of one hole groups. No paper wasted here, he shot all over the place. Owning a Marlin 336 that I bought for my dad when I was very young and got when he passed I know they will shoot much better groups than what he got here.

[@mrdinme.4768]

, not to be rude , but where I hunt, you don’t get 150yd shots, maybe maybe 80-125 at best after all the leaves have fallen. Most of my shots have been in 35-75 yd range,(plus or minus a few yds). Yeah iron sights.

[@nathanlambshead4778]

@@mrdinme.4768 Here too. My longest shot ever was 55 paces. My shortest was about 8 feet. (and I missed haha) Iron sight for most of my hunting. Recently put a barrel mounted peep on my 336, and use it as a ghost ring. Have not had it in the woods yet, But it is sighted and ready for when I am.

[@dennislock3415]

Never fired one myself but guessing you should be able to keep them in a pie plate at 200 yds,that's a pretty good range for most game animals.Maybe not pronghorn or mountain animals,would tend to make you a better hunter having to get a little closer.

[@korndawggy1801]

My first deer rifle was a 30/30 Marlin. Where we hunt, you're walking/standing in pretty thick brush and you can MAYBE get a 100 yard shot at something. That rifle was compact and quick to bring up when you catch deer sneaking through it. The lever action was smooth and quick for getting the next shot ready also.

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

Great ‘brush’ gun indeed

[@mrdinme.4768]

Sounds like we hunt the same area, lol

[@randybratcher9777]

I use a Marlin 336 in 35Rem and is also an excellent round that is a tack driver at 100yrds.

[@Steven-kf3os]

My first rifle was a Marlin 336w in 30-30

[@tjgrossman]

G’day once again, on all of my original 92’s and 94’s and a Rossi 92, have all had ghost ring sights put on, some by me and the others came that way. My 1906 build 94 in 30-30 has a Lyman ghost ring sight, as does the same year 92 in 44-40. My 1926 94 has a Williams ghost ring peep sight, the diopter is adjustable form 2mm to 12mm for target/hunting use. I have several others and the Rossi has XS Ghost ring sights and it’s in 44 Mag with 16” barrel. It will print my handloads into sub 1” groups at 100 off sandbags. If you want accuracy with open sights, nothing beats ghost ring or peep sights. They are a sight to see and use. I have been shocked how accurately you can group with them. Cheers.

[@bobsweigart9698]

I've had my .30-30winchester model 94 since I was 12. I have a 3-9×40 mm Simmons on it and with my 160 FTX handloads shoots sub 1/2 to 1/2 MOA at 100yds. Dialed 3" high at 100 yds is 6-3/4" low at 200 yds. They hit the deer and the deer drops. No tracking with this round and that's any round or flat nose as well. The energy is amazing less than 200 yds

[@travischapin886]

Never saw a left handed Winchester .30-30 before. Joking!! I saw a video the other night of a guy using 150 gr. ammo in a Winchester .30-30 and his groups were horrible. The .30-30 was meant to use the 170 gr. ammo due to the rifle twist. I don't care who says what. 150 gr. bullets are better suited to the .308 or the .30-06.

[@simondeeley9413]

Hi I'm from UK. I got a Marlin 336 and it don't like 150 grn at all. I only use 170 grn

[@dctrjekyll3573]

the Winchester's were 1: 12 though weren't they? i thought it's the marlins that are 1: 10 and like the heavier pill

[@kurtchristopherson5231]

30-30 always seemed fine for doing what it was designed for - 150 or less yds in the bush. 150 gr was always a flat shooting load in that range, especially 50 and 100 yds (most of the time). Not a sniper rifle by a long shot. 30-30 loses it's flatness really fast with heavier bullets like 170 & 180 gr. Was suprised with the hornady, gonna try that, as mine is a Marlin. Up here in Canada, finding ammo for 30-30 is no challenge at all, and $1 a shot is the usual cost, even during Covid and Riot times.

[@joshuabennett7334]

Every round capable of taking deer will be flat shooting to 150 yards. That is like saying 22lr is flat shooting to 50 yards

[@mikerichards1264]

Thanks for a great analytical video of the Marlin 30-30 groups. I have a Winchester model 94 chambered for the 30-30. When I shoot the Winchester PowerPoint 150 grain ammo and the Barnes Vortex 150 grain, I get groups that average about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch at 100 yards. Out to 200 yards it widens to about 1 inch. The rifle loves both brands of ammo!

[@massmike11]

My 94 seems to prefer Remington 170gr corelokt. I get about 3/4” to 1” at 100 yards with a ghost ring.

[@randyjohnson6845]

History tells us that a 30 30 win is extremely accurate at 75 to 125 yards..they actually put it into expensive bolt actions years ago and it was excellent..it just depends on the quality of the action and barrel

[@tommcconville677]

That's right, my.30.30 is a bolt action Savage with 1 in the chamber and a 5 shot clip.

[@lucasgarrett2107]

I just watched a guy shoot a Henry 3030 with a sub 1 inch group at 70 yards with iron sights.. these things are awesome

[@Kidkaos13]

The second rifle I bought is a Marlin 336 , it’s my all time favorite rifle , I put a bigger loop lever cuz I have big hands and the factory lever was too small , ammo is hard to come by and more expensive , good thing I saved all my brass over the years cuz I just started reloading it , great video 👍🏽

[@lostpyper6973]

Crazy timing on this video... I've just been playing with grouping with my Marlin 336. I had done this a few years ago when ammo was more plentiful, and Hornady American Whitetail was my winner. Always appreciate your videos WTW!

[@kurtchristopherson5231]

Yeah the Hornady grouping was a surprise to me, and I will definitely give it a whirl on my Marlin 336

[@lostpyper6973]

@@kurtchristopherson5231 My 336c groups good with Hornady American Whitetail up to 200 yards. Winchester Super-x, Remington Cor-lokt were good to go at 100 yards, and haven't tried further with them yet. Barnes Vortex and Federal Fusion did good at 50 yards (haven't tried them further yet). Hornady LeverRevolution sucked at 50 yards. I think the tips deform easily and throw off the trajectory.

[@richardcolligon4277]

I have a 30-30 story for you. My daughter In-laws great uncle during WW2 along with other men, guarded the Hoover Dam with their Winchester 30-30 rifle's from Japanese fighter's.

[@riverrivers250]

Read something like that before…. the US government gave canada a bunch of 3030 winchesters for the militia too use that was gaurding the coast… if im remembering correctly

[@tinfoil6246]

Forgotten weapons talks about a couple government contracted Winchesters for people guarding the Pacific Northwest lumber yards too.

[@traceyevans2757]

Very short story lol

[@arthurshingler2025]

I heard about those Government issued 30-30s.... can't get much better than that!😊

[@robdavidson2569]

​@@riverrivers250 correct, in canada they were called the mountain men.

[@bigtrev761]

I’ve got a 30/30 336 with a laminated stock and a 3-9x40 Tasso on top.It’s a Remlin and I purchased it about 5/6 years ago and I love it. I’ve fired about 600 rds and it’s as smooth as butter. Love it 😊...... Great videos,good knowledge and very entertaining so keep up the good work , Trev 🇦🇺🏁👍

[@bradenstuart4074]

Love these videos. I took a deer this fall at about 46 yards. I knew that the bullet would be a little lower than it was at 100 so I knew exactly where to hold. Inspired by WTW himself!!! Thanks WTW thanks for producing the content! Big time help.

[@Aubrey_Yates]

I don't have a 30-30, but I always wanted a lever action rifle. If the ammo situation improves I may look into a 30-30. Good information as always. 👍

[@dr.froghopper6711]

I heartily recommend the Marlin 336 in 30-30! I bought the Winchester 94 years ago and it constantly threw hot brass up and it came down my collar. But the Marlin ejects out the side. And I prefer the Marlin pistol grip stock. My wife’s 336 is a sweet shooter! The 30-30 is easy to shoot!

[@jaymeyers950]

30/30 are about $800 now back when had mine was only $120 n wish still had it

[@jaymeyers950]

@@dr.froghopper6711 mine did that n boy was that hot yikes till I put a scope on it

[@toddk1377]

I haven't had issues with the top eject. I have the Sears model 54 30-30.

[@garypollard9770]

I have had both a Marlin 336 and the Winchester Model 94. I liked them both and no issues with either gun. The Marlin just fit me better. Both were good shooters. The94 was my Dad’s so it will stay in the family. I gave it to my granddaughter for her deer rifle. Sadly I thought I was to cool for a .30-.30. What an idiot. I sold it sadly. I regret having done that and it was the very last gun I ever sold. Will never sell another one. Might do a little trading but never sell! I have a .243 and a .44 magnum right now in deer hunting calibers and have a .22 and a .22 magnum in lever guns! I love the lever action!

[@JDJ1898JADE]

I worked my hinie off the summer I turned 13 in 1965 to make enough money to buy a Winchester lever action model 54 yep 54 that ain't no typo from Sears & Roebuck for $65. I always hunted the deep woods and never seen a deer over 50 yards away. But if'n I seen 'em I got 'em. Carrying the gun with one in the chamber and the hammer on half cock safety it is one of the fastest guns to shoulder and shoot you could have. That quick first shot is what made the difference between getting a deer and not for me. I still love my old 30-30 for close in hunting.

[@eac1235]

I love stories like these. Going to Sears and buying good affordable guns or Western Auto, True Value etc. I used to love looking at the Sears catalog and dreaming about getting a cool gun. By the time I started buying guns ( mid 80s) it was basically over . I think they quit in 1988 and I was in the Army. Lol.

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

Awesome video WTW. The Marlins I’ve shot and been around are super accurate and group well with the right ammo.

[@RayRay-zc2ed]

That’s a real nice Winchester you have there. I totally agree, you don’t put a scope on a Winchester lever gun. I have a marlin from 1980, I love it. I now have a scope on my marlin because of my age and eyes. It shots pretty good compared to a bolt gun. I haven’t purchased ammo for it in awhile and $100 a box is cray. But I am sitting pretty good in the ammo dept. I learned from my elder’s years ago about ammo. It old goes up and never comes down. So I purchased years ago. Thanks for doing the 30/30. Who tee who!

[@dalepeters9638]

This was good timing im working up a load for my 30/30 and my groups are what your last shots were and i was disappointed but my buddy says there good so you backed up what he said thanks

[@tedwright1380]

The 200 yd human silhouette group told me all I needed to know. Even though the group was large. Every one of those hits was a kill shot. Very adequate for SHTF in a restricted state. Thank you for helping me make a decision.

[@papajon6715]

Adam I was mightily impressed with that 200 yard paper, you could have laid a steel straight edge through the three holes. As for the sights several companies make adjustable peep sights for the Model 94 top ejectors at a reasonable price...

[@joshpittman6021]

I’ve never seen a marlin 336 shoot 150 grain 30-30 worth a crap. 170 is what I would recommend. Great shooting as always.

[@michellewilt4479]

Man, my marlin 336 loves 150 grain rounds, can get about quarter sized groups at 50 yards. It loves 170 also, but the groups are a little wider, about the size of a half dollar. The rare chance I had to shoot a 180 grain round (which I can no longer find) she got a full group inside a dime at 50 yards.

[@joshpittman6021]

@@michellewilt4479 I’m glad to hear that! Every gun is different! Right now the way ammo is I would take any grain ammo I could find.

[@michellewilt4479]

@@joshpittman6021 absolutely. I'm fairly strict with what ammo I use anymore. Plus, I've spent a ton of time back when ammo was a lot cheaper and I had the time dialing it in to get that accuracy. It's been 20 years since I dialed it in, and it's still holding true. Best part is this rifle is older than I am, the scope is a Walmart special, and it shoots better than one of my hunting buddy's much newer Winchester side ejector 30-30 with a high dollar Leupold scope and high dollar ammo. Well... High dollar is a relative term anymore. It's all stupid expensive now.

[@YellowHammer26]

Thanks wtw. The 30 30 is a really good deer rifle inside 200 yds. My dad left me his marlin 30 30 and I shot a big doe with it on Friday the 27th at 80 yds and she dropped like a rock. Appreciate your videos brother!! I know every gun is different but I get just over1" moa with the 150 gr. Remington core lokt soft point at 100 yds.👍👍

[@wdtaut5650]

3:29 If I didn't realize your camera has reversed the image, I'd be wondering where you get a left-handed 336. Best results in my 1973 336A .30-30 has been Leverevolution for factory loads, with Remington pretty far behind in second place, and 34 gr. of H4895 behind Sierra 150 gr. flat nose for handloads. I have some handloads with LVR and 160 gr. Hornady FTX, but I haven't tried them yet. My rifle pretty much likes them hot. Maybe because of the long barrel. When I spend more time at the range, I get all factory stuff shooting OK to pretty darn good at 100. That trigger takes some learning for bench shooting.

[@michaelhubbard1711]

Me too !

[@johnballagh7039]

Look at his hat, the whole video is reversed

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

After you pointed that out.... I see his wedding ring is on the wrong hand and the name on the safe is backwards too. Lol.

[@diogenes5381]

The 30-30 will force you to Hunt, know your gun & game animals habits. That’s hunting. Using scoped long range rifles is harvesting. There is a big difference.

[@nam1971]

We asked for it on the Live and he delivered!!!! Thanks for this man love my 94!!!

[@factsnotfeelingssendit5961]

A 3030 can be extremely accurate. As a handloader I load Sierra Game kings spritzers. The same bullet in any other 30 cal. 308 3006 etc. I extended the oal ( overall length) and single load each rnd. For hunting I put that one in the pipe and same weight round nose in the tube. It won't extract so has to be fired at one point to unload. Surprising how accurate a 3030 can be. Reason factory ammo is rounded so you don't have a point of a bullet on the primer of the cartridge Infront of it in the tube. Could detonate from recoil etc. So anyone considering this never try.

[@victorwaddell6530]

Just for fun I once hand loaded some 150 gn round nosed soft point bullets in .308 Win brass . I shot them in my Winchester 70 .308 at 200 yards . They held 1 MOA and the group was only about two inches lower than the pointed bullets .

[@wdtaut5650]

I did the same thing with some Hornady 150s. Had exactly the same experience. If I had a single-shot, it would be worth experimenting.

[@ditchdigger93]

@@victorwaddell6530 And you had about twice as much gun. I've done the same in my old 88 Winchester and they shoot great but with a BC of nothing they do fall faster, but you'd never know it under 200 yards.

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

I have some "Savage" Model 340 bolt action .30-30's that are extremely accurate IF... you keep the action screws tight. They are detachable magazine fed and don't require round or flat tip bullets to function. They don't take all day to load and unload either, just extract the live round from the chamber, knock the clip out and stick it in your pocket. They're easy to mount a scope on too. I also have an H&R Handirifle single shot that I hot load 130 grain spire points for as my turkey rifle. Don't have to use blunt bullets or worry about cartridge 0AL working through the action.

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

@@victorwaddell6530 : Sounds about right !

[@alexmaclean1]

That's a great group for that cartridge. Hornaday sure is proving themselves to make high quality stuff for just about every lead slinger.

[@clayreynolds5502]

A good saddle rifle

[@joshballesteros22]

Doesn’t matter at 100 yards. U don’t need optics. The .30-30 is a bush beast!

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

Hell, with good eyes, I used to pop bottles at 200 yards, open sights. My .30-.30 has killed deer from 40 yards to a confirmed 185 yards and quite a few in between. The best part about it, is it’s handiness. The .30-.30 is indeed a fantastic brush gun.

[@brians2733]

I also have a Winchester Model 94 (I paid $187 brand new for it). The way I mounted a scope was with a forward (often called a ‘scout scope’ position) mount. I use a Leupold 2.5x IER (intermediate eye relief) scope, which I doubt they still make, and it works great. Better accuracy for my aging eyes than open sights but allows for a large field of view.

[@randylee7166]

A good honest test with real data with what you have on hand. Thanks

[@Robb_K]

Been waiting for this one!!! Thanks

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@brianjarvis313]

Been waiting for this one. thanks man!

[@thomasallen3818]

Last year I used my Winchester model 1866 Yellow Boy in .44WCF, to take a nice buck, dropping him where he stood. It has an octagon barrel and ladder sights. I’ve always shot for the spine at the base of the neck, because I prefer not to track my deer kill. If I hadn’t purchased a Bergara B-14, 6.5 Creedmore, I’d be using the Winchester again this year. It’s definitely one of the sweetest shooting rifles I own.

[@blackdogexcavator21]

I did the same sort of test with a .30-.30 a long time ago. I used Federal 170 gr rounds and got the best groups. 150 gr rounds wouldn't pattern good at all. In my test they dropped 16" at 200 yds with a 100 yd zero.

[@jimkemp566]

Who, I have three Marlin 30-30s, I hand load everything, I love the 30-30 but after three hundred yards, she drops right back to mother earth. I have a 115 year old Winchester 1894 it has a 26" barrel and does help a little, and I have a Marlin cowboy with a 24" barrel, it actually shoots right with the Winchester out past 200 yards. Thanks for all you do!!!

[@paulrhoads1367]

First I saw a left handed marlin. At the range i saw right handed same scope on it. I have a 336 marlin. Made 1972. Reload IMR 4064 with 125 gr Sierra HP. Just over an inch at 100yds. Enjoyed the video 👍

[@jacob-tl3is]

Finely!!! Thank you for this video.

[@Strutingeagle]

It is mind boggling how the slow and heavy bullets from the 30 30 react to gravity and drop at 32 ft per second squared and the fast light 22 250 bullets react to gravity and drop at a rate of 9.75 meters per second squared.

[@olenfrazier8475]

Ya I guess that 2500 ft per sec is pretty slow compared to the speed of light. Lol

[@davidhicks2178]

My Winchester 94 is also a 1972 manufacture year! I love shooting it and its always been dead-on accurate!

[@gorillahd9247]

I have two Marlins in .30-30. The first is a Marlin 336CS with an old (and cheap) 3-9x40 Redfield scope. Got it for my 16th Christmas and it has been my deer and hog gun for 37 years. My second .30-30 is a Marlin 336SS with stock iron sights that I have as a truck gun since it won't rust.

[@wsbill14224]

John Browning didn't design the first smokeless center fire rifle cartridge in .30-30 caliber to shoot beyond 200 yards because Winchester lever guns weren't originally designed for optics. It's a medium power general purpose gun, just as it was designed to be. Browning designed the 30-30 to hit well but be modest for general use, and that's what still makes it great.

[@timcassaday3045]

i bought my first Henry 30-30 i use winchester 150 grain it works well. i'm always on the lookout for good information videos. thanks

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Tim

[@johnv8274]

You did it again buddy and I have always said that ammo always makes the difference. Thank you for another great video and for the information. Keep on shooting and I will be waiting for another great video to 👍

[@fishnaticsc9920]

I love my 30-30. Was passed down from my dad to me. Got my first deer @ 15yrds. Was shooting Remington core loks but it wasn’t consistent so I tried Winchester xp. Was better but I feel my 30-30 likes the federal power shok better. Was able to get a better grouping @ 75yrds. Last yr my son got his first buck @ 67yrds and it dropped right on the spot. Now my son is already claiming it as his gun.

[@brucemoriarty9964]

My favorite rifle. Thanks and have a great day.

[@samuelcorbin3694]

I know this is a year-old video but I wanted to comment, I use an Old Stevens 325 Bolt action that was made in 1949. it's slightly older than me. I hunt in the Woods mostly and all of my shots are never over 100yrds. I use a williams Peep Recever sight and I always zero at 50yrds. I hand load and use 150gr. Hornady round-nose bullets. It always does the job. good video.

[@libbylewis6]

I have never shot past 75 yards with my 30 30 it's just too much brush around here but it is my favorite little rifle I feel like you can't miss great video god bless you

[@hblegal8309]

I was hoping for a really fun video,.............and here it is!

[@94twentytwo76]

I love a good ole 30-30.... great video

[@MrJdebest]

A great upgrade in Lever rifles is the Browning, a box magazine and chambered for "pointy" .308 ammunition. A huge jump in performance and the charm of a lever action gun. 😊👍

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Henry Long Ranger is also good

[@MrJdebest]

@@sleeper.simulant7327 Thanks for the info 👍😊

[@ditchdigger93]

I've got an old Model 88 Winchester I bought new somewhere around 1971. It has brought down somewhere around forty five deer with not one requiring tracking or a second shot. My dad had a Marlin 336 30-30 and I don't know how many deer he lost or they ran a quarter of a mile after a well placed shot. He died two years ago and I own it now. We bought it for him for Christmas when I was about ten years old. I'm sixty six now. Been a day or two ago. Still has the Revelation scope on it that was on it when we bought it at the local Western Auto store.

[@thebeardedairgunner]

Great video brother!!!

[@lukereinhardt9768]

I was gifted my 3030 on my 8th birthday. Took my first deer wirh it when i was 12. I have a 270 a 30-06 and a 300 mag. That 3030 dtill makes it to the woods wirh me damn near every time i hunt.

[@planker]

Thats a Neat gun you got there. Right On!

[@merlinnorris817]

Marlin 30-30 was my 1st dear rifle taking a ton of deer with it Passed it on to my daughter have taken deer with Remington Winchester federal hornady ammunitionThe evolution is some great stuff shoots a lot flatter enjoyed video as always

[@Dr.Ballsonya]

Yo WTW awesome video. I just took a doe and a coyote yesterday with the 350 legend. Just got done skinning and hanging to age. Hopefully you get some more game soon yourself

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome! I am sure trying

[@crisjr6478]

I love my side mount scope on my 94. I replaced the factory open sights with truglo fiber optic sights the side scope makes it so I can use either. I love that combo for tracking. It’s got a 2-7 32mm vortex scope.

[@212driller]

Lever actions can be inaccurate if the barrel band is too tight or too loose, or if the handguard is too tight or too lose (depending on how it it is secured to the rifle). If I get groups like that I check my scope and mounts and then check the rifle itself. I've taken levers that were getting 10 moa and made them sub moa by simply tightening a screw. If yours isn't shooting well check anything that is secured to the barrel and make sure nothing is "funky".

[@jerroldkazynski5480]

An Army buddy's Uncle backed his pickup out of the detached garage to go deer hunting. When he got out to close the garage door, he spotted a nice 4-pointer grazing nearby. He grabs his 30-30 from the cab's rack, nails that buck at 85 yards. Puts the rifle back in the pickup and pulls the truck back into the garage. Deer season is over, and his Thermos ain't even cold yet. 'Merica. North Central North Dakota.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🦌🦌🦌

[@christerhauknes6840]

The norm for a lever-action gun is about 2-2,5 MOA groups. To me the 30-30 is a short range rifle. And superb in the woods when the range rarely gets over 80-100 meters. And i am comfortable to take shoots out to 150 meters. I do have a Win 94AE chambered in 307 Win. It shoots 1MOA groups with a scope on it. And with a little more power than the 30-30. It is my go to rifle for those longer shots out to 200-250 meters.

[@dubcoco1]

Marlin 336 (non side safety) 30-30. Also the Marlin .357 lever action. Was purchased together years ago by a family member. They both reside with me now. My grandkids love shooting the "Cowboy" .357.

[@davidquillen5025]

Love the boo-lot drop videos, keep em coming!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching David

[@michaelhubbard1711]

I miss 30-30 at 10.99 a box and all the others at less than 16.99 a box . WTW it wasn’t you it’s a 30-30 I’ve had 3 …I promise … a 30-30 is a whole lotta gun for what it was intended to be used for !! Thanks for the video! Appreciate ya

[@reapergrim76]

Awesome stuff! 👌

[@randyadams03]

Late again but saw premier thanks Adam. Wish I still had my Win 94. Was a dumb decision.

[@jeffreybean5363]

My Winchester model 94 love's the Remington Cor-Lokt 150gr. I get a 1 inch and a half grouping at 50yards with iron sites..

[@slickdazzler7330]

Nice Marlin, and nice Winchester. The 30-30 levers do what they were designed to do, and does it well, this side of 200 yds. If I am hunting deer in a place where I think I need more reach, then the 25-06 comes into Play, and the 30-30 stays at home

[@chrisgale4432]

I have the Winchester 94 AE With high lift mounts that allows either iron sights or scope to be used ,and run hand loads either 150gn speer SPFN or Hornady 150gn SPFN. The speer projectiles do well out to 500 yards for a bit of fun. regularly take feral pigs out to 200 yards

[@charlesm4305]

Really like watchin ur videos. Would really like to see you do a video on the 224 Valkyrie with 88 r 90 gr Bulas and also the Sharps 25/45 with 87 gr bulas Thanks and keep puttin out those Really Fun Videos

[@ldjb8648]

The drop you show tells me breath control. Always fire at the bottom of the exhale. Lead sleds move with recoil. Just use a bipod or barrel rest. I have a 336 and its accurate to 200 yds where I zeroed it. But, Im also running a vortex crossfire optic. Fun gun though. I use the same Winchester ammo. Thanks for what you do!

[@bestestusername]

My marlin 30.30 loves the corelokt 170g. Winchesters fly around to much, federal 170g is not to bad. 30.30 is a beast to use I love it!

[@rafaelmoros8417]

Clear and short as it must be, congratulations amigo 👍.

[@tomhartig4247]

1958 yr 336RC 3rd 336 Marlin. Love those guns

[@danielalamo2075]

I have Winchester 94 30-30 angle eject. I bought it new in the late 80s or early 90s. I was using Hornaday leverevolution 160 grains. I have a Cabela's lever action rifle scope. Using sand bags my group was fairly tight. I can't remember how tight actually. I'm in California so I had to switch to copper. I got some cor-bon 160 grain and they were the same as the Hornaday. Then I switched back to Hornaday leverevolution nonlead 140 grain and they are a little higher at 100 yards. But I haven't fired it in a while. It's my only deer hunting rifle. But deer are extremely hard to come by here so I have not got one in many many years. Too many people in a small area.

[@popeyesailor2191]

Great video

[@johnnorman7708]

FYI. There is a forward mount scope rail system that uses long eye relief scopes for top eject Winchesters. They work.

[@brentmckeon6056]

Hornady leverevolution is pretty sweet stuff. My 336 in 35 Rem loves them 200 grainers.

[@untermench3502]

A few years ago, I loaded some 30-30 bullets in my Savage 116 30-06 that can shoot one hole groups with tuned loads. I was using the Speer pro-hunter 150 gr. flat point and getting groups that were well under a MOA, so, It tells me that the old design of the Marlins and Winchesters are just too loosey-goosey to shoot accurate groups, but I must say, that with tuned loads, my Marlin 1894 in 357 Mag can shoot a MOA group, so, it all depends on the gun and the ammunition, as the video demonstrated.

[@joh466]

2k19 the first deer camp I’ve spent alone due too my grandpa being in the hospital. Got in the tree stand 30 mins before sunrise opening morning in northern Michigan and dropped my first 10pt buck at 60 yards open sights, “skinner sights” He didn’t move a inch from where I pulled the trigger. 150 grain

[@joshuaduff8588]

I’d bet some of the reason why the Winchester group size was so big was the crosshairs were still settling down. Cheaper scopes are bad about that. That’s why I don’t like shooting a single shot then adjusting with cheaper scopes. I completely understand not wanting to waste ammo though. It would have been better to at least fire one shot of the Hornady at 100 yards too. As far as using iron sights on the 94, a peep sight is much easier for me to shoot with. I have one made in ‘69. I also have an angle eject made in ‘83 that shoots about 1.5” at 100 yards with any ammo but I found one load that would shoots incredibly well if you pay attention to the brass. 30-30 brass often has necks that aren’t concentric.

[@eugenejensen576]

My first rifle was a 30-30 love that rifle

[@stevenklinkhamer9069]

I was hoping you weren't going to risk ruining that Winchester 94 by trying to put a scope on it. You had me going there. Grabbing a different model- well that solves the problem- doesn't it. Marlin 336 30-30 is a very nice solution to the problem at any rate. That the WHITETAIL AMMO had a lot better group was a good demostation of how important it is to use ammo that works well for the gun your shooting. Nice video.

[@chrislang5659]

I'm a fan of American Whitetail. Works great in my 7mm-08!

[@stolnpckup]

I have a henry 3030. I hit my steel target at 100 yards with the iron sites. It did take me seven tries. Also, I was doing it free handed.

[@matttyreeoutdoors]

Still really hoping to see some of these videos with a 35 Rem

[@bryonengle9287]

I have a mossburg 464 30 30 lever..no issues cant wait to get it dirty in the woods this year..but ammo is a pain to find..glade I reload all my brass

[@billymichaels2889]

Love my 30-30 it’s a challenging cowboy rifle great brush gun. Timeless rifle.

[@northwoodsdad7506]

30s have been around for a long time for a reason. The work. However the 35Rem is generally more accurate. I have a marlin 336. Put a scope on it with see through rings on top and you have the perfect brush gun! I use the irons to get on target, and then switch to scope for precision shot. It works for me and is guick.

[@ronburnett9421]

When my dad passed back in 1999 he had a Marlin model 30-AW in 30-30 that I kept and decided to do something with it . I took it to a local gunsmith and had him to take the barrel off and use a 308 Winchester reamer and punch the chamber out to a 307 Winchester . It took it from a 150 yard to a 300 yarder with a Burris 3X9 compact !

[@darrelgentes1104]

I love watching your videos I was wondering if you could do a video on 45-70 bullet drop? Thank you for making great videos and keep it up the great videos

[@WHOTEEWHO]

4570 soon

[@darrelgentes1104]

@@WHOTEEWHO sweet thank you.

[@josephmccanless955]

Man what's going on I seen a albino fawn this morning in the woods hunting most beautiful thank I have ever seen...and lv your videos man and lv the 30/30

[@Jeffersonian1975]

Lyman makes a receiver mounted peep sight for the model 94 Winchester. Very adjustable and very accurate.

[@oncall21]

Hey Addy. IMHO I think your mate Jeremy has it set up at 2" high at 100 yards so it's good for shooting dead on out to 150-180 yards. I have a 'JM' 336CS Marlin 30/30 with a Leupold 2-7x33. I reload and even with the scope I still see this as a 100 - 150 yard gun. But hey that's just me. I only use it for pigs and most shots are on 2 power inside 50 yards. Thanks for sharing!

[@XxnosmanXx]

That just proves how important it is to find the right ammo for your particular firearm. You plink more than most people. We dang well know it ain’t your trigger finger causing fliers. Everytime you say it could be me I’m here watching saying, nope, no it isn’t.

[@Mr.Big-Gunz]

I have a Winchester 94 30-30,, i love it, i wouldn't ever sell it or trade it for no amount of money,, it was made in 1978 or 79,, my friends Marlin 336 is the same year,, his Marlin is more accurate than my Winchester,, but not by much,, the Winchester looks better & feels better in my hand,, i like it better than the Marlin

[@camel7355]

Whotee you're a pretty decent shot. You should definitely try this with your '94!

[@approachingtarget.4503]

Always interesting. Could you do your best why each ammo acts differently in each platform!? Just curious to see what your answer is.

[@edwerts7096]

I had a nice marlin 30-30 that a took a buck. The next day i went to shoot a doe and it wouldn't hit nothing. I later went to dispatch a doe that someone shot and it still missed when i was right in front of it. I don't know what was wrong with the rifle. I love them old lever actions.