.300 Winchester Magnum 165gr Hornady Superformance CX Review

[@paulscountry456]

I use the old Hornady heavy magnum 180 with the old interlock bullet for Elk, 300 win mag is capable , good velocity on that 165.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

👍👍

[@rangetime6779]

Wow those are some really high velocities in such cold weather. I was surprised it fragmented. Very good test and thank you for your work. 300WM is a great cartridge, I've used it for 47 years and has never let me down.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you very much! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend

[@vashmatrix5769]

300wm is always impressive.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Truth

[@scottstahlberg]

I like the 180gr Nosler Partition myself.

[@Kaa-Bumm]

Thank you for m/s and Joules!!! I measured the same load form a 22" Beretta with about 3100fps 945m/s. But the precision was not good enough.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thanks for letting me know. Godspeed and good hunting. Any loads I measure please feel free to place what you got in your 22" barrel. I'm a numbers nerd.

[@RanchTop]

That is a pretty stout load! I appreciate you braving the elements to bring it to us.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you for watching. Godspeed and good hunting.

[@Guitarsgunsandghosts]

Nice. Always great vids Chuck

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank You

[@bobcatforever3485]

Very Nice! Thanks for sharing and for your hard work. Take care.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you Bobcat

[@joew5792]

I run this in my 300 rum at 3550, unfortunately didn't get an animal with it, just happened to have a different gun with me that day

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Let me know how it works next time

[@joew5792]

@@AlaskanBallistics I absolutely will!

[@paulscountry456]

Those are 300 Weatherby numbers, great velocity.They used to use two different powders mixed in the old Heavy Magnum rounds to get more velocity.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Cool

[@powerbagle]

That stuff is moving! I wouldn't worry about the petals coming off, the base still penetrated.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I agree

[@christopherrussell411]

Always enjoy these types of videos

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you sir

[@randalljeffs7272]

Nice vid on the CX. I’d be interested to see expansion at 400 yard velocities.

[@paulscountry456]

I hunted elk for four decades and one thing I know is out past 300 yds if you don't hit a rib a high percentage of the time the bullet will not expand and just drill a hole that provides no usable trail, I have seen it with poly tipped hps and solid copper hps and soft points like Core Lock.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@paulscountry456 barnes lrx did fine for me on a small caribou cow at 459

[@paulscountry456]

@@AlaskanBallistics I use 62 gr tsx Barnes 556, really tight groups in a 16 in about 2750, 1 in seven twist ...I used Barnes X on deer , copper is great really and with environmental regs soon they will outlaw lead in time.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

They just don't expand below 2200 fps or so. Better to have LRX... but in my defensive guns I have TSX

[@randalljeffs7272]

@@AlaskanBallistics run a ttsx in 270 and an LRX in 300 wsm. I might download them to 500 yard velocities and run them through water jugs to see how they do. That would be an interesting video if you did that for loads that you run.

[@briankopp1369]

Fist guard van lite, awsome.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Lol yes vanguard first lite

[@jamespugh]

Great video buddy. Bullet and load performance was great for medium-sized game. Just drop haul video bass pro new outpost location was stalk powder and primmer that i passed i did get 1 lb of cfe blk to try. And two die set one 30-06 in new set of 243win .

[@WesternReloader]

Nice speed for a mid weight 30 cal

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yep!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

I can't imagine that it wouldn't be sufficiently effective on everything up to elk size game. Thank you Sir.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you. It'd be fine on moose too considering I killed my moose this year with less!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

@@AlaskanBallistics That is true considering how many moose have been harvested over the last many decades with the 30/30.

[@davidneal6920]

Not sure about you Chuck but when I shoot lightweight heavy recoiling rifles off the bipod (particularly on a hard surface) without my hand on the forestock to stabilise it I found the groups challenging. Regards Dave 🇺🇸 🇳🇿

[@hedge7743]

Just caught the hoodie! GO VOLS!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Go Vols. I've got to get to a game at Neyland soon

[@johnnorman7708]

.300 Win. Mag. with this ammo is gonna be a decent long ranger.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Definitely a 600 yard reliable game getter

[@davidneal6920]

What an awesome calibre. Awesome velocity Chuck. Just a shame about the fragmentation of the projectile. Great video thanks 🇺🇸 🇳🇿

[@phild9813]

I’d call the fragmentation a win for most applications, and you still get a pass through with the base!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@phild9813 agreed

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍Thanks Chuck, did you say you had a video shooting this in 30-06.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yes last year.

[@YellowHammer26]

@@AlaskanBallistics ok, thanks

[@carycary5824]

Great info!! God bless!!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank You. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend.!

[@texpatriot8462]

Nice looking rifle.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you I like it

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Just imagine what kind of groups you will get now...

[@M.H.D.actual]

Seems like the CX line is a bit 'softer' than the old GMX line. More ready to open at lower velocity, but doesn't hold together as well at the higher end.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I agree with you completely. Not a bad thing but just different

[@danoneill2846]

yep

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yes sir

[@danoneill2846]

I heard AK got some heavy snow

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yeah record so far for the year

[@fawakamaha]

do these box charts have some kind of standard for barrel length? I can't seem to find any info about how those charts were generated and I don't have the equipment measure my own velocities.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

It's a 25" with hornady. 24" with barnes

[@DavidGomezRgr3_75]

Great content as always. I have I 1st lite cipher in the 300WM. What mounting base did you go with with your scope, and what what what scope. Kinda looking for a good set up for mine, and I honor your advise

[@AlaskanBallistics]

What rounds are you getting good groups with? That's a leupold vx freedom 4-12 with tri moa reticle. It's ca leupold base and vortex pro rings. Very good.

[@DavidGomezRgr3_75]

@@AlaskanBallistics HSM 185gr MHVLD factory loads is what I've had the best luck with so far

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@DavidGomezRgr3_75 cool thanks

[@exhaustus7437]

Took game with the Deer Season All Copper 300WM. 250 yards, and saw game taken at 38 yards LOL

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Cool... I've got some of that to test

[@exhaustus7437]

@@AlaskanBallistics It physically removed a fist of material at 38. full pass through on a giant hog at 250.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@exhaustus7437 nice

[@nikos6220]

Copper frag grenade. But then water is tough. Question is if the 180 CX in the outfitter will do any better. That long barrel 300 Win Mag you have will still get it moving

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I'll look into it for sure

[@phild9813]

Hornady says 3130 for the 180 and 3260 from the 165 in superformance and 24” barrel. I would definitely pick the 180 in 300wm. I picked the 180 even in 30-06 lol.

[@nikos6220]

@@phild9813 😁 the 30-06 is just awesome for heavy pills. I am handloading a 200 grain ELD-X and the results are impressive. Not sure what the true expansion threshold for the CX are, that would be my only concern out of the 30-06. But based on the test here they seem to expand quite willingly 😂. Are you happy with the performance out of the 30-06 so far?

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@nikos6220 the eld-x tends to shatter if you hit bone. Good for you going heavy for caliber

[@nikos6220]

@@AlaskanBallistics exactly why I opted for the 200 grainers. So far on medium sized game I have an exit with hitting ribs on entry. Last time the exit looked more like a 300 WM with about 5 inch 😁

[@3DOutdoors]

That was pretty good.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yep

[@WanderingWarrior4]

Is Win 30-30 enough for the Alaskan bush?

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Not really, but peyote used it for years. You'd want that 190gr hardcast load, forget who makes it. Better than a handgun only for sure

[@eduardoolaechea]

Try the .150 grain deer season xp

[@AlaskanBallistics]

It'll explode in the meat and fall to penetrate. I've tried them in least calibers

[@Longtrailside]

Enjoyed the video. That pork shoulder was devastated. Id be careful hunting with that, and make my shot placement where it doesnt destroy so much precious meat

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Agreed. Though this destroys less meat than a similar weight non bonded lead core bullet

[@Longtrailside]

@@AlaskanBallistics Ohh ya, defintly agree! Thats one of the reasons why i use Barnes in my hunting rifles. Have some other copper brands, but only have taken an animal with Barnes. Interested to see what the Winchester copper impacts will perform. Looks like a fast expanding bullet that will do serious damage to any large game animal. Maybe to much.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@Longtrailside i generally also only use barnes

[@phild9813]

I’m a proponent of Barnes as well. Terminal performance consistency is awesome with Barnes, I know EXACTLY what the bullet is going to do on an animal every time. I’ve seen a couple failures to expand in the Winchesters on YT here into gel, one was on Vortex’s channel. I have a couple boxes of it in 30-06 for sale, never been opened, lol.

[@Longtrailside]

@@phild9813 Well damn, thats not good. Guess ill use them for after cleaning the barrel and re copper fouling , or getting the rifle back on paper so i dont waste any of the good stuff. Was hopeful that i could have a backup bullet if i cant find, or get any Barnes.

[@jasonkubichek6702]

First guard Van light??? 😂

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Good catch

[@poorfatman5317]

❤👍

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thanks

[@untermench3502]

Definiely not for close range.

[@gunner4373]

No core in a cx

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Well the bullet is its core, referring to the part that doesn't expand

[@adamshaw8214]

I couldn't get these to shoot worth a damn in any of my rifles.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yeah me too