.308 For Self-Defense?...Critical Defense vs Gold Dot!

Testing some Hornady Critical Defense and Speer Gold Dot defensive ammo in .308 Winchester. Heavy clothing ballistic gel test using a SCAR 17!
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[@LKaramazov]

“When you need to clap em from afar..” 😂😂😂😂

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@andrewfossatti4937]

“Break out the SCAR”😂

[@CrashRacknShoot]

His jelly time naming shtick is half the reason I watch this channel!😄

[@andrewfossatti4937]

@@CrashRacknShoot I agree with you that’s a huge part of it. I would love to see him make a compilation of all of his various “jelly times” in one video. Would be hilarious! 😂

[@LKaramazov]

@@CrashRacknShoot “ y’all know what tahm it is!

[@rogerray2545]

Brother don't worry about the accuracy The wind was blowing the sun was in your eyes The table was wobbling And you had a rock in your shoe And you had a rock in your shoe Love the rifle testing good job brother

[@ToolsandTargets]

Exactly! Finally somebody gets it!😎👊

[@saltymofo5870]

Sometimes the best defense is a long range offense 💪

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@mikewallace8087]

Sure, I thought about shooting rowdy ruffians across the street on somebody else's property tearing it up, especially after they said, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?

[@PureCountryof91]

I call it mail in voting

[@alm9951]

Ha!

[@spaz13b]

Ain't no lie there.

[@prepperoverwatch7965]

As the owner of a couple .308's I appreciate this content. 👏☠️

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you checkin it out, my friend.😎👊

[@homersaypian3798]

I’d say if the scar was my one and only, I’d use the Hornady for the house and gold dots for hunting. That being said, I think you could just as easily swap them interchangeably, I just wouldn’t want lead and copper in my venison.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, that would be a mess to clean out.

[@conro7003]

Well said

[@leeskieferrell2003]

No no no, fully staggered mag, one, then the other, then the other…. Etc. full on “luck of the draw” mag 👍😁

[@GmarineIraqVet]

Very well said.

[@timrobinson6573]

Nice Rifle. The disruption from the Gold Dot was really impressive. Damage to ballistics gel can be misleading but that was still impressive. I'd imagine a 110 grain V-Max from a 308 rifle would be near explosive on impact.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely makin some gut soup.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

At one point the TSWG was developing a load I guess for counter terror usage that had a 155 Hornady BTHP for the SCAR-H. There were some representative drawings of the performance in gel and I believe it was pretty good. Probably what I would load a 7.62 gas gun for for general purpose 👍🏻

[@charlesmullins3238]

I been pushin the 110 v max test…find the vid in 8541tacticals archive of John talkin bout a 110gr tap round used in a headshot le situation and it not exiting….

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

@@charlesmullins3238 It’s cool because if you think about it, it’s basically the equivalent of two 55gr VMAXs hitting at the exact same time in the exact same place 😂

[@charlesmullins3238]

@@rifleshooterchannel208 i keep a couple 53gr v max factory rounds and 3 60gr tipped matchkings in my doublestar 16” carbine..got a d50 with 130gr federal hp layin here for my DD7.62…and 10 more different.308 rounds from a max and eldm to smk’s 75s,and 68s 180barnes..Norma..cor-lokt…m118lr..and have tested for 2yrs with all my targets saved and recently documenting every round I fire and it’s performance to look back on..can say how happy I am with my DD .308 and how accurate it is…

[@tylerd8516]

Me and my son each took a deer with the 150 grain 308 gold dots two years ago. I can say it’s a excellent deer round. I think any 308 would be good for self defense 💥🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. Looks like some great rounds.

[@perseusrex614]

I'd imagine the GD in 150gr is about ideal for hunting or defense, tho it be cool if they had a 125 or 130 for defense, that be about perfect.

[@perseusrex614]

@@ToolsandTargets indeed, any chance of testing the GD 150's? thanks for your work friend :)

[@marvinbrock960]

There’s no replacement for displacement! Agreed! Reviewers like to spend their time trying to convince the crowd that the .308 is past its prime… If there is a cartridge that’s as capable, as easy to load, and as predictable as a .308… I don’t know what it is.. it’s not magic, it hits all the high notes and does it with authority… without excessive recoil. Inside 300, it’s as good as it gets for medium to large game and self defense applications.

[@steelpunisher6944]

Ouch! I’d say they’d both leave a mark. Lol. That Gold Dot was impressive how well it stayed together. Two or four legged vermin wouldn’t stand a chance with either. Awesome video. Always good to see that beauty on camera. 👍🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Love this thing!😎👊

[@jamestboehm6450]

Man stack em up two at a time. Gold dot is a wicked round. Personal defense, depends on how many and how far. But no one will argue it gets the job done.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir😎👊

[@tylertapp131]

Good stuff. I'd love to see a jelly test and chrono on a 64 grain Winchester silvertip 223. I had good luck with the round on deer this season but I still think itd be interesting to see.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. 😎👍

[@cgsimons1187]

Even a FMJ in .308 is likely to suffice as anti-personnel rounds. Though either of these two bullets are going to further ensure it gets the job done. I lean slightly towards favoring the Critical Defense for normal size 2-legged predators. With the penetration that Gold Dot has, it could also work well on larger animals.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Absolutely. .308 means business either way.😎👍

[@grb876]

Both are impressive rounds. I'd go with Gold Dot myself. In a defense situation, it probably wouldn't matter much with 308. Good test brother 👍🏻 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Steve-rx6if]

Been waiting for someone to do this comparison. I watch all your content. Straight to the point and no B.S. thanks man

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that.😎👊

[@semichiganandy2127]

Where I live, It's too densely populated to use a .308 in self-defense. But the video was still really a lot of fun to watch and I really appreciated it. Both rounds are impressive, but the Gold Dot is more impressive.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you checkin it out.😎👊

[@ShastaBean]

The light-for-caliber bullets, like 110 & 125 gr might serve well, and can have v. little risk of over-penetration. This was something that I was unable to find any gel tests for, so I tested 3 of them myself. I'd say "success" in knowing I can grab the .308 if that happens to be what is nearest if/when 4 jokers push through my front door.

[@OldMister]

That's the whole point of the *Critical Defense Rifle ammo.* As you can see, it doesn't overpenetrate in gel even compared to handgun rounds. And what you can't see here is that it just disintegrates against solid barriers like walls. It's perfectly safe to use in densely populated areas (if you'd consider something like .357 Magnum to be)

[@gort4016]

Great review T&T. I've been waiting for this one since you bought the Critical Defense ammo and it didn't disappoint!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I really gotta do more rifle stuff. It's nice seeing that power get delivered downrange.

[@conro7003]

Awesome test! I love the rifle tests cus they aren’t as common online. Probably quite a bit harder to clean out of the gel I’m sure.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. It's a little bit more to clean sometimes, but the main thing that keeps me from doing as many rifle tests is I can only do two per day in a set of blocks because of how much disruption it makes, but I can do at least 4 handgun tests in a day with the same set of blocks. That and having to walk back and forth takes more time. I'm definitely gonna start doing some more though now that the weather is getting warmer.

[@marvinbrock960]

Man! Those Gold Dot 168’s are like the Hammer of Thor! Every.single.time…. Amazing bullets… the 75 grain load in the 223 is awesome as well.. 🇺🇸

[@scottragsdill7969]

Thanks,very good information! When we have to grab the 308 we know not just a little pass through!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir😎👍

[@1erinjames]

Such a perfect round = 308!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed.😎👍

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍Thanks Tools……. A really well done test

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Awesome performance , the 308 hits hard. Nice to see another rifle jelly test. It’s probably overkill at normal self defense ranges. Thanks for sharing Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

You wouldn't have to worry about a follow-up shot, that's for sure.😆

[@John_Redcorn_]

Anything worth killin is worth overkillin

[@johnnyv.223]

Outstanding demo, Tools! If I had a 7.62 X 51 I would favor alternating them puppies. 2 center of mass, 2 to the central processing center should stop any Zombies in your A.O. Thanks for this one, Sir!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you, my friend.😎👊

[@hoosierplowboy5299]

Good head-to-head test, Tools. Both performed well...I would say, use it if that's all you have...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Adam-nv9zo]

Either one of those would do the job for sure. I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of either one of those.I love the rifle testing. Great video, as always, brother. 👏 👏 👏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@RimfireAddicted70]

I have been buying that exact GD ammo for my .308 for awhile. It's my go to stock up ammo and I grab 100rds a few times a year. I run GD LE in my 5.56 as well just because its always been reliable in performance. There is always new ammo choices and some are stellar but GD have been a known, proven performer for me so I stick with them. Great video!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Love these Gold Dot rifle rounds.😎👊

[@scottpulver8692]

Good video brother, I'm a little surprised though that you didn't do a heavy clothing barrier for a "self defense " type of test round.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. That cloth would have been like putting a sheet of notebook paper in front of these.😆

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

Man that's a lotta hate for home defense

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@JR15A2]

That was a great test and video! I believe I would choose the Gold Dot as well. I would use my SCAR for self-defense on my property if I had to, but I would only reach for it if someone invaded my home if it was my only firearm. The PWS muzzle brake on the SCAR generates such a loud and concussive blast I couldn't imagine firing it inside my house. It's so obnoxious that I wonder if it isn't the worst 30-caliber brake on the market. Those who know how bad it is start getting anxious when I whip it out at the range. Shooting muffs on top of foam earplugs still isn't enough for me to stand beside someone else shooting it. The best place to stand as a spectator is directly behind the shooter. I bought a Surefire 3-prong flash suppressor to replace the brake with, but I still need to install it. Then I can use my Warden blast can with it or a SOCOM762 RC2 suppressor if I ever get one. I still don't really want to be on that list yet, especially with how our current government and federal agencies have acted recently.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, it's definitely one of the most teeth rattling brakes I have on anything if you're beside it. The tank brake I put on my PSA AK is even worse. It makes the thing a laser beam, but it rattles your own teeth like you're standing right beside it.😆

[@aquablaster86]

A ar10 with a 16" barrel sounds just fine to me for home defense. Just because the round is capable of reaching out to further distances doesn't mean its a bad choice for up close and personal. I say if someone breaks into your home, i don't want a fair fight. I want every advantage i can get! The federal 110gr varmint rounds in .308 with a huge hollow point cavity would be my choice. Plus, they come in 40rd boxes for around $45 so you can stack em deep and train with them. Thanks for the video 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. Completely agree. I'm grabbin the biggest, baddest thing close by.

[@joemokrzycki2006]

.308,is a great round.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir. Capable of pretty much anything that needs to be done for most folks.

[@bobg.8954]

Excellent test T! Those blocks were bouncing!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. They were holdin on for dear life!

[@Paladin1873]

308 would only be difficult to justify for defense if your target is too far away to be a realistic threat, but this is true of any cartridge. I use 308 FMJ as part of my bear defense strategy because the barn is 100 yards from the house. I've only once seen a bear close to the barn. He was about 125 yard away but came no closer and left when he heard me. If one ever did attack my family or animals while I'm in the house, I believe the 308 will get the job done.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I think it would handle the job.💥🐻💥

[@cryswimmer]

Thanks for the useful and valuable information.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you checkin it out, my friend. Enjoy your Sunday.

[@geraldbatts575]

Was wondering about the gold dot rifle bullets. Seems to be up to par.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Pretty nice lookin stuff.😎👍

[@pauld2913]

Excellent video. Thanks for posting!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@timparkhurst8661]

Galil ace pistol or Remington 700 pork sword come to mind. Belt fed people would be tickled by these too. The upper end of penetration after all barriers are factored, physiological extremes, and other unexpected variances is right around 28" in some discussions, so that is in there. Penetration depth can double almost between 10% and 20%+ gel with simple barriers like cloth, plus distance, and that is typically without bone ect. You would be surprised, and that is how you cover two legged to the biggest beasts and situations. I believe government stopped testing like that early 80's and that was the determination.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@leroycaudill96]

Good shooting Tools good test Good looking rifle thank's for the video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Have a great weekend!

[@Spartisman]

You are great. Thanks for all you do.

[@charlesmorgan1879]

I didn't know those rounds were available. I could see if you lived in a rural area with bears , hogs and even 2 legged critters ,they work well. Gelmiester strikes again !

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🐻🐗🧟‍♂️💥

[@charlesmullins3238]

Here we go…never tried either of those so this is well appreciated….

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nothing like some good ol .308.😎👊

[@tomlee6263]

Great video thanks!

[@frankbrowning328]

Normally defensive shooting is close range however, I think we can make a case for longer (100+ yards) gel testing for 2 items. If you're a hunter you may want to see what perfomance is available at 50-100+ yards and for self defense if someone is shooting at you from 100+ yards away you may be returning fire. The velocities are very low due to barrel length. It would be nice to see "short barrel" loads for rifle in 5.56, 7.62 X 51mm -308 just like we see in handgun ammo

[@ToolsandTargets]

That would be pretty interesting.

[@andyd2960]

Ive been using my ar 308 rifle for home defense because it's the most reliable semiautomatic rifle i own. Up until very recently i haven't had a care in the world about over penetration because of where I live. Good to see Hornady test results. Still a bit more than I want now though.

[@ChadKelly7]

haha, that was the best gel intro so far. "when ya need to clap 'em from afar, ya break out the scar"!!! Gonna have to do more tests with the scar just to use that line 😂

[@ToolsandTargets]

Couldn't help myself.😂

[@A_Brit]

Great to see some 308 testing. I wouldn't say do a bunch of testing, but maybe do a hunting 308 series.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I think that would be good.😎👍

[@jonclark8155]

That was a good test. I think they would do good on an active shooter or a hostage situation.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@SirGlockALott]

Nice vid!! It would be interesting to see a 792x39mm, since it is suppose to be traveling about 2400 fps and it is also 30 cal! Nevermind 😅, should of known you did one, lol.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊 I need to do some more still.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Farm defense or camp defense or civil unrest or homeland protection both of these are outstanding in the 308. Gold Dot for hunting is great. Good results. Thanks a bundle. I am impressed.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir. Great stuff.😎👍

[@chrisdonnelly5904]

Just found and subscribed to your channel, Great video!

[@lessingleton8102]

Man I absolutely love that 308 Nothing has a better report Awesome 👊🏻

[@petemidwest1071]

Very cool. Ought to try 50gr 223 hornady v-max since your going down this trail. It’s explosive!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Might have some of that.😎👍

[@rangetime6779]

I really appreciated your testing procedure for this rifle test. Very well done! Both rounds would get the job done.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@Bob-lq9ys]

I have hunted deer with a 308 and it more than gets the job done, I would be a one and done shot that is for sure, if it was a SHTF case it may be just right, great test video thanks

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. No doubt about it would do the trick.😎👍

[@josephpacchetti5997]

In a SHTF case, I was thinking the same thing. 👍

[@MikeSmith-pq4wz]

Great test. As far as a 308 for self defense I always say " Who ever shows up the firstest with the moistest wins" A 308 will make a guy with a 9mm back down fast!

[@randlerichardson5826]

Lehigh makes the Controlled Chaos bullet to if like to have some of them to reload for either my 300 Winchester magnum or my 25-06 either

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@Dwayne7834]

Nice Rifle . Thanks for the test using the 308 ammo. I know how they perform on deer. . Good video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@shaggytitz7325]

That was a great test brother 😄

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that 😎👊

[@TheTruth-sd8ey]

That GD would've been a perfect home defense weapon. Funny that a rifle round like this has less overpenetration than some revolver rounds. It shows you how important is to pick the right ammo. Even more important than a caliber. Great video sir 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

That is kinda crazy when you think about it. Plus you get a ton of energy.😎👊

[@sokyoutdoors588]

Don't forget that Masaad Ayoob defended a guy who took a defensive shot at 100 yards. Perp was using a snubby 38 and the defender was using a 12 gauge. He proved that with a little practice he could 3 of the jurors who had little to no gun experience on a man-sized target 50% of the time at 100 yards with a snubby. Just remember not all self defense situations are the same.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@hphillips7425]

Nice 👍🏻. Glad I come across your channel

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊

[@Hiking_chef]

I know I’m a bit late to the conversation, but I’ve had a lot of success with the Critical Defense .308 in my Ruger Gunsite Scout.

[@justingilmer3642]

Something tells me that either one of these would have a very high percentage of one shot stoppages…….. Wonder if they can defeat the heavy clothing test. 😂

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@pt6998]

Thanks for this! My personal AR-10 is loaded with 155gr Hornaday Black .308s.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. I think I might have some Hornady Black in either .308 or 5.56.

[@keithcrandall1369]

nice, great minds think alike.....mind is loaded w/ the same. wounding ballistics for that round at short distances is off the chart....almost as good as a 12 gauge shotgun.

[@jeffreybean5363]

That was a very good ammo test Tools 🇺🇸👊..

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you!😎👊

[@keithtate1241]

D@#$ good long distance performance and the Gold Dot was exceptional. Thanks for the video and keep shooting 😊.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir. Good stuff 😎👊

[@jaeger8652]

Thanks for this video. I have both rounds currently.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good stuff.😎👍

[@BulletsB4Guns_2A]

Absolutely love .308... Good video Tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, brother. Nasty stuff.😎👊

[@leonhart2452]

The additional fragmentation of the Hornady I think would be slightly more apt to stop an individual with fewer shots.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Big energy dump for sure. A ton of force would probably stop most anything in it's tracks.😎👍

[@russellleavitt4449]

Great post and that Speer Gold dot is some great ammo I really like it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Impressed me too.

[@billdye3530]

Great comparison. I think if the bad guys see you have a Scar they will turn & run. 🏃💥 Both are great but the Gold Dot holds together better. Just remember to grab earplugs in case you need to hear questions from LEO afterwards. 🙉🙊

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, the brake on this thing will get your attention.😆

[@billdye3530]

​@@ToolsandTargetsImagine touching off the 308 in the living room. " You're Going To Wake The Kids" 😂😂 Nasty wound channel from either round DOA

[@charlesdriggers199]

I agree with you on that GoldDot. If you need it, you need it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

While we are on the topic, I am curious about a couple other Hornady loads. I have an 18 in AR10. It is quite down the list of things I would grab for bump in the night inside the house. The blast off the VG6 Epsilon would be dumbfounding. But I have shot a couple deer with Precision Hunter 178 gr ELD-X and wondered how it would compare to the Match 168 gr ELD-M if worst came to worst and I was forced to break out the three-oh-hate...

[@ToolsandTargets]

I have quite a bit of different .308 rounds. Might have those.

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

Another good test, Brian! .308 for self defense? Hell yes! Ok, my AR15 is lighter, faster and hits pretty hard up close but if I could get to my AR10 I wouldn't hesitate to use it! And no matter how far away an adversely might be, if they are shooting at me, I'm shooting back! Probably not the very first rifle I would pick up but depending on the circumstances... it could happen! And like you, I'd pick that Gold Dot, they are devastating bullets! Cheers, jc

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. If I know bullets are gonna be comin at me form any distance, I'm sending some back.😎👍

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

The biggest deteriment of .308 for in home defense is the ungodly amount of concussive blast they put out, esp from a short barrel with a brake. My buddy has a PWS 216 with the same brake FN ships on the 17S, and I have an Aero Precision M5 with an 18 in Proof that has a VG6 Epsilon on the end of it, and they will both ring the steel columns at the range like a tuning fork, even without walls. Indoors, it would be like having a flashbang grenade go off two feet in front of your face every time you dropped the hammer. Just stupifying muzzle blast. The kind that rattles windows in panes and leaves you with tinnitus. I get that all guns are loud indoors, but short .308s are obnoxious.

[@keithcrandall1369]

add a short suppressor to the 308. I got a sandman K short suppressor for my Tavor 7 16inch 308 as my home defense gun, loaded with this same critical defense 155gr. it's actually not as bad as most people think.@@MTMILITIAMAN7.62

[@duroisgawd]

I remember picking up that 308 gold dot when it was going for prolly 13 bucks a box. Mine is probably just as old. Stashed away.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I'd buy a truckload of it now at the good ol days prices.😣

[@mmccarthy9458]

The last thing you want to do is blast your chronograph with a 308 poly tip or SP :-/ I saw it happen at the range with an M-1 CMP. Hornady across the board is very consistent. Surprised to see Speer's velocities so wide.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I was going to invest in a Labradar doppler chrono but apparently they are impossible to get right now because of some component shortage.😣

[@chrism6238]

Sweet video sir. That’s a nice tool too. Happy St. Patrick’s day.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.💥🍀💥

[@timmarbell255]

Another great job!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@rjw261984]

That Gold Dot would be my choice. Judging from the results I would say it is bonded. Appreciate you Tools. 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

It held together very nicely.😎👍

[@johnpoole8321]

Gold dot for the win with the great .308. Nice one Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@l.a.3887]

👍👍great job great test I really like hornady critical defense ammo

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@andrewfossatti4937]

That SCAR is purdy!!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Love it.😎👍

[@flogg8635]

In and out as to be expected. Some don’t like separation / fragmentation. I personally love it. Other than the initial wound cavity it provides even greater wound. Hallmark of a great defensive round in my mind. I gather that the majority will disagree with me passionately. This is just my opinion,, whether alone or not.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Either one would be a bad day for the recipient for sure.😎👍

[@flogg8635]

@@ToolsandTargets , my man !

[@altonwelch4991]

My understanding is that the Gold Dot rifle bullet is the same as the Federal Fusion.

[@DinoNucci]

👀😯

[@ToolsandTargets]

Interesting

[@pistolgrip44mag]

Got to love the FN SCAR17 S.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir. Definitely glad I got it.

[@Drknow-mx1fj]

Both look like they do what they are pose to do 💪🏻

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yes indeed.

[@chretired]

Awesome Tools. I saw that intro and thought you'd mis-typed 380 as 308. I should have known better. Talk about over kill, pun intended. Be vigilant and always be safe my friend. TGIF, have a great weekend

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂😂😂 Thank you sir.😎👊

[@josephpacchetti5997]

Holy Jumpin Jelly, Those both hit with absolute authority, I'd say the Gold Dots nailed 1st place, Thanks for posting. 👍 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely some devastating rounds.😎👍

[@josephpacchetti5997]

@@ToolsandTargets Definitely! Anxious for some more videos this weekend, Stay Safe and Thanks again 👊 🎯

[@camojoe83]

Nah, try some 110 grain loadings. Those are good hunting rounds, though. 110gr rounds have ridiculous terminal effect and greatly diminished recoil. Exactly what you'd want for "self defense" with a battle rifle. They're loud tho, it seems like. Winchester used to offer them, and i know hornady used to load FPD line 308 with them or maybe 120s or something. Underweight for sure but damn. Effective.

[@treetop.garage]

These in .223 would be an awesome test ...great video tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@treetop.garage]

No problem buddy

[@bluesfanman1]

Always been a big fan of lead nose bullets. They always work well.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nasty stuff for sure.

[@itsjustjoe3790]

Thanks for the data

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@dragonrider385]

Thanks for the test. I am a .308 fan. They both did great i would like to see a FMJ tested with them ,, I you get the chance. 💪

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@frank6029]

Both did a good job. The 308 is no joke it is a great round, but for self defense thats a different story Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏🙏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely a pain train.😎👊

[@allenbolen9705]

Breaking out the big boys! You get hit with that and you’re a goner! It’s almost the same cartridge as my 8 mm Mauser. I dropped a whitetail at 156 yards.That’s a deadly round!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir. One and done.

[@builtfordtough4499]

Hornady round is the same as the TAP 155gr., anti-personal round determined to have the best wound profile. All GD's are bonded

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@dentalnovember]

3:20 that bug knew you wouldn’t shoot him if he climbed on the chronograph.

[@ToolsandTargets]

🤣🤣🤣

[@dre6262]

Only have a diamond back 308 but man that hits

[@ToolsandTargets]

Hits like a truck!💥🚚💥

[@williamgaines9784]

I say, when it comes to personal defense, what you have in hand is what you use. Someone might have only had the budget to buy one firearm and it may be a rifle. If I could only have one, I would choose 308 over many smaller ones. The question, at what distance is it no longer defense always depends on what the aggressor is doing. If you are taking fire from distance, you need to return fire from distance. Someone waving a sword or spear from 100+ yards is not imminent danger. Closer, maybe. Since budget was my initial concern, I would want the ammunition that had the most utility...the Gold Dot would fit that purpose much better, but so might Core-Lokt, Power Point, Power-Shok, American Whitetail, etc. Nice testing, as usual.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@tylerleavitt2715]

Gold Dot is what I go with. I think the test validated that.

[@Lexicologist1971]

This video deserves a thumbs up just for the "clap em' from afar" line.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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