#36 The six simple parts of an optimal anti-aging protocol (Dr. Michael Greger)

[@AndrewPawley11]

We all owe Michael Greger so much.

[@artieash6671]

There are a lot interviews of Dr.G around right now. This is the best. Bery well conducted and edited. TY.

[@daniel_sobhani_thisonelife]

Appreciate your words

[@mike.999.s]

It seems that so many are shocked over Dr Greger informing over the benefits from PROTEIN RESTRICTION! Crazy since it has been known in real evidence based science for a long time.

[@Mrm1985100]

Yeah, it's been known for decades but in the echo-chamber that is social media and the internet people are convinced of the opposite.

[@classicgameplay10]

Can you inform me of an article showing that protein restriction works for humans.

[@VeganKatieFaye]

@@classicgameplay10Dr. Gregor has plenty of citations of scientific research in his new book.

[@classicgameplay10]

@@VeganKatieFaye yeah, but everything he mwntioned on this subject was not on humans. But nevermind, I heard on another video, he doensnt really recommwnd low protein, he recommends that americans lower protein to recommended levels.

[@VeganKatieFaye]

@@classicgameplay10 yes he means lowering to “recommended levels”.

[@SilverFan21k]

Ty dr greger

[@maxmadmagoo]

The look on the interviewer’s face when he was hit about the facts on protein was how my kids faces looked when they found out there was no Santa Claus.

[@sandybayes]

This is the best of all of the Dr Gregor interviews because of its succinctness and lack of hyperbolic distraction. Well done!

[@daniel_sobhani_thisonelife]

🙏

[@danluther1741]

Damn! This was informative!

[@gordonv.cormack3216]

Thanks for doing this interview. I've read "How Not to Age" and also struggle with this question. I've never taken the 1g+/lb Attia recommendation seriously, but am concerned with protein & aging. Stu Phillips still pushes protein but has moderated his view a bit. Of course a great deal of his research is funded by meat and dairy. It seems to be focused on short-term anabolic response rather than long-term muscle maintenance. In terms of long-term outcomes, it appears to me that the harms of protein might be mitigated with old age, along with the benefit.

[@daniel_sobhani_thisonelife]

I am wondering how the results world be if you‘d control for the quality of the diet

[@gordonv.cormack3216]

@@daniel_sobhani_thisonelife For population studies, they control as well as they can. I think since the Seven Country Study there's been evidence that animal protein -- not just animal fat -- is associated with bad outcomes. There are some studies that show bad effects for high protein consumption prior to age 65, but not so much after. Animal models definitely show that protein/bcaa/methionine reduction prolong lifespan. Studies on so-called anabolic resistance are inconclusive -- whether it exists independent of activity reduction, and whether it can be mitigated by diet. I'm not so sure I would go so far as to say "no effect" but it must be subtle or it would be more easily observable.

[@CarlYota]

I’m also wondering how anyone is supposed to eat such low protein levels. 0.8 grams per kilogram of bodyweight is super low. I don’t see how you can get that low without using refined sources of calories that have the protein stripped out of them. I’m a whole food plant based “bodybuilder” with an active job. I weigh 78 kilos. I eat 3400 calories a day to slowly gain weight over time. I make no effort to eat high protein. I don’t eat a ton of beans or soy. I get 1.6 grams per kilo without even trying. There is no conceivable way for me to eat enough calories a day (even to just maintain my body) and get anywhere near 0.8 grams per kilo while eating Whole Foods. And this is a diet most would consider to be the lowest possible protein diet, while plant foods, nothing processed and no animal foods. I would have to eat 1700 calories a day to get to that level and I would waste away with no energy on such a calorie intake. Maybe I’m missing something here.

[@gordonv.cormack3216]

@@CarlYota Yes, it is hard to be under the RDA if you eat real food. Even just bread & rice. I think that most North Americans who are actually protein deficient got there by eating nothing but potato chips & soda. But then there's the question of whether "not deficient" is sufficient to ward of sarcopenia. Here the human outcomes are not so clear.

[@joelleaittama1416]

All these mean comments, I can’t help but think people just need their meat, and have to find a way to justify it.

[@KinaStaru]

what they will find is dying prematurely so let them be, sadly for them, we'll be the ones standing later

[@ShawnGetty-eb1gj]

Its the same as people who oppress women, or racism. The human brain will come up with all sorts of things as a coping mechanism to justify why they should be justified in their actions.

[@terrytari1891]

Don't feel bad, most doctors think like that too. Dr Gregor is a rebel compared to the older doctors!

[@rolfsimonsson2295]

I canhelp but feel a certain skepticism on part of the interviewer’s side. It seems like he can’t let go of his notions about how much protein you need to grow muscles. It all boils down to opinion bias and it may be hard to accept something that contradicts your own beliefs (oftentimes derived from less scientific evidence).

[@daniel_sobhani_thisonelife]

Yes I was/am a mix of skeptical and surprised

[@k.h.6991]

Since this is a common misconception, it's good that the interviewer focussed on this.

[@MK-qj5wr]

Ive followed Dr. Greger since his how not to die book. Would love to get him in the same conversation with Dr. peter attia, who has different views on protein and exercise, he’s written a book as well, also, evidence-based, maybe Andrew Huberman moderating.

[@mike.999.s]

Dr Greger presents EVIDENCES. Attia has OPINIONS that are not based in science.

[@MK-qj5wr]

They both review scientific literature

[@daniel_sobhani_thisonelife]

Also not sure yet of what to make of the different stances

[@George.Harris]

Greger's evidence is out of date regarding types of protein. Even with his suit jacket on you can see he suffers from sarcopenia excellerated by his faulty lifestyle. Reference: Dr. Lyon's book Forever Strong ​@@mike.999.s

[@maxmadmagoo]

Dr. Attia doesn’t have the amount of science on his side, for intervention studies, population studies, EPIC type studies. So I err on the side of science

[@terrytari1891]

KZbin Logo CarlYota replied to M's comment #36 The six simple parts of an optimal anti-aging protocol (Dr. Michael Greger) CarlYota : Dr Gregor is Great!

[@laurimuse1390]

Dr. Gregor I have a challenge for you call Robert Kennedy Jr and ask him about the anti-VAX or data. I have a second challenge for you. Call Dr. McCullough and ask him his research into vaccines which ones help which ones hurt and do a book on evidence based vaccination.

[@VeganKatieFaye]

Yasssssss 🙌🏼

[@carolosborne126]

Everyone quit using the term “anti-aging!” We are all aging and nothing to be ashamed about!

[@VeganKatieFaye]

It’s about slowing the aging process, not trying to deny aging altogether.

[@carolosborne126]

@@VeganKatieFaye ok then please change your wording. Anti anything has a negative connotation.

[@VeganKatieFaye]

@@carolosborne126 have you read the new book? There ARE ways in which we can turn back the clock biologically. I would consider that ANTI AGING. Wouldn’t you?

[@skippy6462]

He's 50 and so you think he looks 20 years older? 😂 It's not a "good looking" competition.

[@k.h.6991]

A 70 year old looking like him, would be very well preserved. I think it's the baldness, strong glasses and grey hair make him look older. His skin wouldn't look bad on a 40 year old.

[@Mrm1985100]

He's a nerd that studies all day.

[@pantheramilo6072]

Exactly... His skin is flawless.... It's his baldness that's it

[@JnTmarie]

Seen him in person. Looks great so much better for his age. Gorgeous skin. He is tall also. Have a picture with him. Brilliant man. How the hell does he remember all this stuff??? Brilliant and so kind.

[@CarlYota]

Beards make you look older. Being bald makes you look older. These are huge effects actually. Plus, most people don’t make any effort to build muscle. And thus you are either fat or you are skinny. And skinny people look “frail”. None of that has anything to do with health as influenced by diet. Now people are gonna regret having too little muscle mass and bone density as the get in thier 70s and lack the leg strength to get up the stairs and are at high risk of falling in the shower and breaking thier hips. But again, this has nothing to do with dietary advice. Only resistance training will save you from that.

[@crw4rxc]

Enjoy watchiing Dr. G. So this is not an ad hominem, it's just what it is. How does one see such a frail, sickly and clearly unhealth indiviual. Then decided I want be like him. I'm going to follow his health and nutrition advise. "The proof of the pudding.... ".

[@mindcache5650]

This Dr is…….. 51 . I can’t take that seriously.

[@Jeffs60]

Greger is not a physician as he never was able to complete his residency so he has no license or board certification in anything and so has no experience since he never saw one patient and his 650 page books which keep people even more sedentary than they should be are not accredited by anything. Would you get on a plane or get dental work by someone with no license or experience in anything?

[@KinaStaru]

not true, he worked decades ago in a hospital treating patients with terminal viral diseases. He actually specialized in that area then later on focused on nutrition. Study up first before bad mouthing, your lone sad hater

[@greensorrel6860]

Dr Gregor is an MD and has a PhD in clinical nutrition making him more qualified to speak on nutrition than most physicians who know nothing of it. He doesn't need to do hand on patient care to do what he does. I have had care of physicians who gave the worst tabloid dietary advice. Just because you don't like what he's saying doesn't mean it's not correct. Do whatever you like, it's your life.

[@Jeffs60]

@@greensorrel6860 He has a MD degree but you can't do anything with it until you complete your residency which he has not done. He has no Ph.D in anything and the proper term is a registered dietitian or RD and he has no license in that either. I state the exact facts and you need to do this too and not use emotional talk. If you think he knows anything about nutrition ask him which of these 36 plant anti nutrients are the most to least problematic for a human, Aquaporins, Gliadin, Furocoumarins, Cesium, Serpins, Solanines, Cyanide, Thallium, Bergapten and Pyrrolizidine Alkaloids, Acetogenins, Saponins, Cyanogenic Glycosides, toxic Alkaloids, Persin, Urushiol, Caramboxin, Hypoglycin, Solanine, Aconitine, Atropine, Coniine, Chaconine, Colchicine, Cytisine, Dimethyltryptamine, Harmine, Harmaline, Raffinose Oligosaccharides, Ibogaine, Kawain, Mescaline, Scopolamine, Trypsin inhibitors, Amylase inhibitors and Taxine.

[@Jeffs60]

@@KinaStaru Many people work in a hospital, some as a clerk or janitor and some are doing their residency with a supervisor but Greger never worked in a hospital as a licensed Physician since you need to complete your residency first.

[@Jeffs60]

@@PartlySunny74 Good grief does not change the verified facts, if you have intelligent facts then present them but thousands of this and thousands of that, this is not a quantity is better else millions of soda sales must mean soda is good.

[@shinefia5987]

Not. Sure most Hindus are vegetarian they dont have long life span. However Japanese and chinese just eat with balance of meat and veggies and starch they have long life span

[@Mrm1985100]

Hindus often eat a lot of Ghee, which is full of saturated fat, as well as lots of oils and sweets. And most Hindus are actually not vegetarian, in India only about a third are.

[@KinaStaru]

that was ages ago, nowadays the japanese and chinese dye off same as in the US from heart disease as top killer and then cancers so get your facts straight, what you mentioned used to be truth when they were actually heavily plant based and almost no meat

[@ShawnGetty-eb1gj]

@@Mrm1985100 Heavy cream as well. Tons and tons of saturated fat in Hindu diets, no surprise they have very high rates of heart disease.