[39] Master 220D Practical Melt Attack

[@Potti314]

It's always nice to see a cheaply made lock melting - I like these attacks :-)

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Potti314 Agreed... and its fun as well!

[@theblackwidower]

I like to imagine that MasterLock's most lucrative customer base is of people taking the piss out of MasterLock.

[@jacobcottom265]

Their most lucrative customer base is cheap high school lockers. The amount of times I've read "Master" on locks in school is uncountable

[@theblackwidower]

@@jacobcottom265 ... woosh.

[@jacobcottom265]

@@theblackwidower in order to be a whoooosh, it has to first be a joke. I'm not sure you quite get how that works

[@theblackwidower]

@@jacobcottom265 So... when I said, "MasterLock's most lucrative customer base is people taking the piss out of MasterLock." You thought I was being serious?

[@AriaFromMahabre]

@@theblackwidower You said "I like to imagine". And the guy didn't contradict what you were saying, he just added a fact. If he said "No, you're wrong [...]" then you could have wooshed him. But hey, that's okay. Sorry for the late reply, and have a good day.

[@TheGeezzer]

Masterlock says "Tough Under Fire" should've said "Melts Under Fire"💥💨😁

[@cmuller1441]

Tough under fire! 😂

[@tiphcuoc]

You sound so depressed in this 2015 video. I’m surprised. Watching that pos melt brought a smile to my face. Though it is a Master so not wholly unexpected. Glad you are cheerier in more recent videos.

[@Kazzukki]

It really is funny that the lock that most certainly is not tough under fire has the text "TOUGH UNDER FIRE" written onto it. It's like printing "THIS IS BULLETPROOF" onto a t-shirt.

[@MikePergl]

More material for the key casting project? Hope to see some video about that in future, very interesting topic.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

My first experiment didn't go well. Still a fair amount of work before I'm ready to go public.

[@willythemailboy2]

Oddly enough, you could probably close the shackle and have this "lock" be about as secure as it was before you melted it.

[@smuckerst8355]

From the time you did the first video of this lock to the second time, the lock had had its manufacturing moved out of the US. In the first video it said USA. But on the second one it no longer said that

[@lockpickinglawyer]

The first one -- sent to me by Papa Gleb -- was quite old. They have not been made in the USA for a very long time.

[@l0ckcr4ck3r]

Love it :D Wonder how long it will be before Master Lock legal start sending you letters like they did with Bill? Keep it up!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+l0ckcr4ck3r I can't imagine what they would complain about. I already have my settlement proposal ready: If they stop misleading people about the security of their products, I'll stop telling the truth. Seriously, I doubt they would ever bring me to court over this for two reasons. First, I'm telling the truth. Second, the Streisand effect.

[@l0ckcr4ck3r]

LockPickingLawyer " If they stop misleading people about the security of their products.." Never gunna happen HT.. just keep doing what your doing. I kinda want John Oliver to do what he does to Master Lock and Kwikset... just to inform Joe public about the truth of the 2 "Leading Brands". Be interested to find out what they have been sending Bill in any case.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+l0ckcr4ck3r That would be great! Lock companies only get away with this because people are uneducated. I can picture a John Oliver segment on raking, bumping, picking, bypassing, etc... it would be glorious!

[@jamestoland8078]

Absolutely love the idea!

[@OnefastAZfarmtruck]

+LockPickingLawyer great video. Masters are fun to melt. Especially those pot metal trailer locks. They bend easy without heat and with it the keyhole melts. Or you can pick the cheap wafer lock in 1/2 a second

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Grant Sipos Thanks... and yes it is fun to melt them, or at least a nice change in pace from picking them.

[@texpatriot8462]

It would be interesting to find our how long a real lock would last when faced with a similar attack.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Bill S A very, very long time. Most locks can't be melted with these types of torches.

[@Andreas-du7eg]

LPL always strives to keep his composure. But at 5:35 you hear a loud exhalation and he says that he doesn't believe in masterlock. I agree

[@intubus2]

I can already see the headlines: LPL melts MASTER LOCK's profits

[@Monsterpala]

15 sec into the vid I nearly spill my team over my keyboard just seeing the "tough under fire" Master Lock and something that resembles a silverster tradition right next to it.

[@asvarien]

What is the point of a hardened steel shackle when the lock body is made of soft zinc?

[@BL-yj2wp]

Abus just released a lock with a zinc body. How do they not learn?

[@The_AlphaTeam]

I’ve never seen such an early video. You are so subdued compared to now.

[@DrakojanOne]

Starting at 3:03 when you were starting up your torch to 4:15 when you removed the pin housing it too 1 minute 12 seconds to break the lock.

[@Arm0ry]

He counted from 3:20 when he starts applying heat until 4:19 when he actually pops the lock. 59 seconds.

[@jamestoland8078]

If you notice in the upper right corner of the packaging it says TOUGH UNDER FIRE Baaahahahahahahahaha mkay

[@pickbeard2690]

Hot stuff buddy😆😂 Nice to see Master lock keeping there standards up!!😂🔓👍😘

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Pick Beard Lol. True. I'm going to have to get a few of the nicer Master Locks. They do make a few nice locks. It's just that the crap is more fun to play with.

[@jimu57]

Nice one! I wonder what it would take to bring the thin cover to fracture using a nut splitter?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+jimu57 Thanks. It probably would not take much force... my understanding is that cast zinc is relatively brittle. But I can't picture how you would position a nut splitter on this lock. Can you tell me what you had in mind?I'm already thinking of faster ways to do this attack. I'm pretty sure that I left roughly 10 seconds on the table by not rigging a way to constantly pull on the core so it would pop out as soon as the metal reached temperature. I'm thinking that a piece of music wire with a barb on the end inserted into the lock would have been perfect and saved time. Oh well. I'm not doing this video again. Master lock got enough of my money!

[@jimu57]

True. I was thinking of a steel "key" in the keyway with an extension to pull on it as the zinc was softening. Dont have to wait until it melts. Just enough to weaken it from heat. I would give it oh......... 39.2 seconds to fail. Not necessarily an actual nut splitter. More like a wide jaw C clamp with a hardened wedge against the lock. I think that compressive firce with a wedge may be more effective than impact force in this case.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+jimu57 maybe I'll take the remains of this lock and put it in my 20 ton press under a wedge of tool steel. If I can crack it, we'll have proof of concept. Then I'll think about how to do it with portable tools.

[@randomweirdo2701]

LockPickingLawyer Knipex pliers wrench might crush it now. They have 10:1 leverage advantage. I know this is an old post. Sorry to resurrect it on you.

[@grmps8927]

Thats really good, you were heating the vise also. IF you had grabbed the lock by the shackle it would have heated up and failed faster :)

[@robrisla3]

Very nicely done.....but did you protect yourself this time? Although this was much quicker than the last one, how do master stay in business!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Rob Risla "You need to wear protection" ... "you were much faster than last time" ... You're starting to sound like my ex-girlfriend. :-P

[@robrisla3]

LockPickingLawyer Haha, difference is, I'm thinking of your health, NOT your ex's purse!!!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I know. Thanks. Honestly, I just forgot this time. I'm usually pretty good about safety precautions... especially now that I let my son help me out when I'm making things.

[@robrisla3]

LockPickingLawyer It can be a pain in the ass, I get H&S on my case all the time at work, sometimes it just isn't feasible!

[@TheBackdrafter80]

the vice takes away some heat. i think the lock can fail even faster when you hold it in something thermally isolating.

[@thermobollocks]

What even is the use case behind this zinc-chrome body when the 930 exists?

[@slimmdogg47]

"Tough Under Fire" what an epic fail of a claim.

[@christophalexander4542]

Why even make the body out of zinc? It doesn't seem to be cheaper than iron or steel? I guess production cost are lower, but it still seems weird.

[@PapaGleb]

Hahaha I see you really enjoy burning masters lol don't blame you.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Papa Gleb It's lots of fun doing it as well!

[@jamesozment1]

well done. master sure has pulled the wool over they're customers eyes haven't they...

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+james ozment No doubt. This model have been around for a long time. I'm surprised that it's weaknesses don't get more attention.

[@Imgema]

What kind of metals are they using that melt so easily?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Zinc.

[@adrianleon9487]

buen video un ataque rapido i efectivo. SALUDOS

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+adrian leon Gracias!

[@oneandonlyTan]

People might say "but you bought two of them, you're giving them money" but hopefully other people won't buy them now

[@mercurial5081]

Thanks for sharing this. I agree that Master are unlikely to take you to court, but I wouldn't be surprised if they ask you to remove this content, "or else". Perhaps their legal department will realise that sending a toothless legal letter to a lawyer is a waste of time, though. The vice will have been acting as a heat sink as you did this. If the lock was hanging from a hasp, I suspect it would've failed even faster.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I honestly doubt there will ever be an issue. If there is... Well, that's what anti slapp laws are for. Although I might welcome a lawsuit... After all, I'd love to see my videos on cnn. Interesting point about the vice. I had considered dong this holding the lock with channel locks, or hanging it on a chain and pulling the core with wire... They would be more "real world." But it proved difficult to get good video of it. Since I only got one take, I decided to err on the side of viewability.

[@DavidShepheard]

"Tough Under Fire" LMAO!

[@bird718]

that torch attack was a little too easy

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

does the core still work?

[@oldschool823]

Thank you for exposing the truth. you saved me money.

[@scootergeorge9576]

3:20 to 4:15 to get the lock cylinder out That's just under a minute. 55 seconds.

[@AndrewJens]

To be fair (and this is coming from someone who has watched, and enjoyed all of the LPL videos in the future), this sort of attack is going to draw a whole heap of attention in the field. And you might as well phone the cops yourself if you're going to light up a lock at night.

[@julianp2868]

To be fair you would have to consider & include what it is locked to as well?? Using a blow torch of any kind carries a hazard and if you was a thief, this would make you stand out like an Elastoplast on a finger.

[@jeeaaenlourens1434]

Impressive!

[@samsonn25]

Regular Benzo or Pro version

[@z1522]

Yet another example of what decays American manufacturers from within: perhaps letting the clever young MBAs and ad execs dictate budgetary distributions rather than asking the old guys in the plant what makes for strong vs weak locks. "Customers only read "hardened" on the shackles, so screw the body and innards; no one will know the difference."

[@Nokia-hv2jn]

Damn

[@bencheevers6693]

Tough under fire my ass, did they even try?

[@stevenlockhart9255]

This isn't how you open all your locks?

[@julianhernandez1939]

You get fired from master or something?

[@BurntFaceMan]

When people say "well that's not very secure" etc make me wonder who's wondering around with plumbing torches standing near a padlock trying to open a lock... not very discreet for a thief lol =P might as well open it with some C4..

[@pipetman4645]

BurntFaceMan ⚠️❗️meep meep❗️⚠️ Master Lock marketing team detected⚠️

[@JosephdiCaro]

Exactly one min! Lol

[@incy55]

you don't like Master , do you?

[@rustynuts4426]

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