4 Huge Egg Myths That Refuse to Die

Eggs provide every nutrient the body needs, except one. So why has there been a decline in egg consumption since the 1960s? A lot can be traced back to faulty research about blood cholesterol that refuses to fade away, despite today's much better nutrition science.
In today’s short episode, Jonathan and Sarah ask: What’s the truth about eggs? Are they healthy or not?
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[@lambsquartersfarm]

As a small farmer who previously sold eggs for years, I have stopped selling them because of the pressure from government health bodies over Avian Flu. Small farmers are targets for these authorities, and these health authorities are ruthless when it comes to how they operate. When you care for your chickens like we do, it just isn't worth the risk. What I advocate is for every household who eat a lot of eggs to get some backyard hens. Regarding a chicken's carbon footprint - they create a net positive if you consider that you can feed 2-3 hens with just what goes into your compost in a week, that is trucked outside the city and dumped. It is also the best way of KNOWING that what is in your eggs. The industrial egg industry is very unscrupulous when it comes to feed, and yes, that even includes "free range" chickens. If you can't visit the chickens on the farm, there is a chance you are being fed just marketing speak. So get yourself some backyard hens for the best eggs, and take your food security into your own hands.

[@maxineadderley5378]

I have thought about raising chickens for food, but I could not bring myself to slaughter an animal, and yes I do think about it when buying it in the store, but at least I did not do it myself

[@vedawattieram1974]

Thanks. Good insight. In Guyana, we can still buy non-industrialized reared chicken. Bless you for your thoughts!

[@zeezsleep415]

Sad that so many farmers have had to give up poultry farming, and that so many birds have died. I am a big fan of good eggs - they are a great breakfast for sleep because they contain tryptophan, which helps us to create serotonin. and melatonin, which help us to relax and sleep.

[@lambsquartersfarm]

@@maxineadderley5378 An egg laying chicken can provide much more over the course of it's lifetime than one for meat. For protein alone, a single hen can give you 5000 grams of protein over a lifetime vs. 125g for the carcass. You can also benefit from manure and grow some veg in your garden.

[@Jack-tk3ub]

​@@maxineadderley5378Paying someone to kill an animal for you is no better than killing an animal yourself. You sound like a good person with good morals. Unfortunely, your actions don't align to your morals

[@fabianyee]

I have been eating 6 days a day for the past 3 years, mostly weekdays. So that's 30 eggs a week. Free range. But then prices of eggs in Malaysia is relatively cheap compared to western countries. My lipid profile is good, I'm in better health than in my 20s, I'm almost 50 now. Body fat % around 12%. Very low visceral fat.

[@rjcrjc8025]

Eggs are the best.

[@nourhanberjawi5620]

i come from the middle east and we'd never heard anything like that growing up. we were always told eggs are good for us and will make us strong. fear mongering around food in the us and uk is terrifying, especially considering they produce most of the worlds research in english. would love to see more interviews from people from other cultures.

[@jeancaunce21]

I’ve just bought my eggs, direct from the farm, I’ve seen the lovely, friendly chickens, they seem happy and very well cared for. Gorgeous eggs, newly laid today. I always test using the water test. They never float, always lie sideways. Cheaper than supermarket eggs. £2.40 per dozen. I’m very happy. 😊🥚

[@robinhood4640]

This is getting far too complicated, i thought it was carrots that made us happy, not eggs. Would you be equally as "very happy", if you got a dozen carrots for £2.40?

[@IThinkICare]

Wow, in Canada market eggs are under $4 , farm it's $6 .

[@vanessahopf2649]

I have my own chickens and I can really recommend having chickens in your own backyard. Its not a lot of work and its lovely to know where your egg comes from and be a little self-sufficient. Since having my own chickens, a lot of older people told me that it used to be really normal that everyone used the little bit of land they got to have their own chickens and eggs, so I think it would be wondeful if that found a comeback. Better for the chickens and better eggs for everyone who loves to eat them!

[@yashpatel261]

I think that is great idea.

[@blakereid5785]

I have a few too. The ethics get a bit complicated when you think “where have the roosters gone?” but it very easy to give a few backyard birds an excellent quality of life.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

Home grown eggs, fed with whatever is around the house + kitchen waste...omg, nothing better, can spot the difference straight away with supermarket eggs, particularly the jumbos and megas that are very floury.

[@ghw7192]

I live on a mountain at the edge of a forest and the woods and skies are full of things that eat chickens, so I can't have them. I am envious.

[@johnnyd1972]

I would really love to see you bring on Dr. Greger and have a debate. Because he's reviewing all of the research and you are reviewing the research and both are coming up with polar opposite conclusions and recommendations.

[@tracyleighbasham]

THIS

[@Yoshin3000]

In the late 80s I did a fitness trainer program. The bloke who taught the nutrition part happened to be a competitive power lifter and work in a lab. He tried increasing his egg intake and track his biomarker on how well he would digest it. Which he could do conveniently in the lab he worked at. He told us that in a hard training phase he could consume up to 12 eggs a day without showing any negative impact on his markers.

[@DemeterN]

Happy to see this video as I sat down to a plate of shakshuka with a side of beans instead of toast. I had two since I don't eat eggs every day. Eggs are lovely to have on hand

[@Neil070]

Years ago, I tested a bit high for cholesterol. I was told to adjust my diet and on no account to eat eggs. Then we had the 'Egwina Curry' scandal, when the Secretary of State for Agriculture etc, announced that most British eggs contained salmonella. No wonder my generation then developed the mindset that eggs are bad for you.

[@dianalivingconsciously9013]

If it's good for you, they'll tell you to not eat it. Do the opposite.

[@TTR83]

Your cholesterol was high but not because you ate eggs.

[@indranidasgupta8982]

@@TTR83yep. Bingo. It was probably some amount of processed food or salty bacon or sausage.

[@TTR83]

@@indranidasgupta8982 I've been in Britain. Most garbage bins are drowned in empty packages of breakfast cereal. They like sugary stuff. Eggs probably are not the culprit.

[@indranidasgupta8982]

@@TTR83 I've heard that too... I have family in the UK and one cousin and his family exclusively does keto, but the other is more varied. But I know in general, the UK population is big into carbs... refined and processed carbs.

[@blawton7792]

Eggs are the best food ever. They are my No 1 convenience food - quick to cook, highly versatile and very nutritious.

[@rosannashe6313]

Thanks for the videos. I love your content

[@dreamsofhaegum]

Why if there is no relation between dietary cholesterol in eggs and blood cholesterol does Sarah suggest we limit eggs to one a day?

[@DemeterN]

I think her point was a reasonable amount of dietary cholesterol is acceptable for healthy people but high amounts could be dangerous for people with lipid issues

[@Forseti6288]

I found this very confusing: -"Dietary cholesterol does not affect blood cholesterol." -"Don't have more than one egg, or maybe two per day. More than this is too much dietary cholesterol, which affects blood cholesterol." I'm paraphrasing something she said several times.

[@travisporco]

dietary cholesterol does affect blood cholesterol.

[@adamswift1747]

Has anyone been offered an egg white omelette 😂 wtf is this? You guys are talking about chicken eggs. Currently with bird flu we are all realising that confining thousands of birds isn't really the ethical answer in the 21st century. Have a tofu scramble instead. Tofu never started a pandemic.

[@neilbennett9281]

@@adamswift1747haha you are consumed by your own fallacy. You should give the scientific channels a wide berth. 😂😂😂

[@adamswift1747]

@@neilbennett9281 consuming a fallacy is not something I would recommend, or indeed know how to do.

[@paulnew8344]

I am in Tenerife, and definitely no shortage here. Lovely eggs as well.

[@ml3141]

The latest independent studies shows that the HIGH in saturated fats and cholesterol in egg yolks DO raise your risk of heart disease. Cardiovascular disease is the number one cause of death.

[@dudmanjohn]

Can you give a source for the study ?

[@rebanelson607]

Please support this statement. I don't think it is true.

[@ml3141]

@@rebanelson607 I get my information on the latest nutrition studies from the non profit KZbin channel NutritionFacts by Dr. Greger. You would will find the links to the clinical studies there.

[@ml3141]

We need to ignore the recent studies made by the egg industry to sell eggs.

[@lindab34]

I try and find local eggs that are not corn fed, just free to grub around. Apparantly if hens don't feed on their natural foods the good nutrition in eggs is depleted. Its more difficult with the present avian flu as even free range hens are not free to roam and my local farm has to feed them corn. I can't keep hens unfortunately as I have no garden. I am on keto and eat 3-4 eggs a day. I have just had my yearly blood work done and I am fine on everything. This was a great podcast, very balanced.

[@PatrickHutton]

I eat a lot of eggs a day as a protein source for weight training.

[@tacticalgaryvrgamer8913]

👍

[@helensavery6622]

Thanks Zoe for another interesting video! I watch so many nutrition-related videos these days including yours that I am starting to know some of the answers! ;) unrelated to eggs, can I request a video with a psychologist or similar in relation to getting other family members on board with dietary changes and behaviour. I think this is a real issue eg when one person is using the predict app and another/others are not! My husband says I'm obsessed with zoe etc! I would say he needs to know what I now know!

[@JV-ks3eb]

Thank you for the clarity on the issue. I eat 3 eggs a day and I weight train and cycle. And the only source of cholesterol in my diet is via the eggs and the issue cholesterol always plagues my mind about eggs and if I'm doing the right thing eating them. I am aware of the density of nutrients in the egg but them always weighing the the negative effects of the cholesterol.

[@carinaekstrom1]

I looked at science that show that if your LDL cholesterol is as low as it should be, eating cholesterol has a rather strong influence on your LDL. So the effect on your LDL is small only if LDL is already too high . Edit: That was not completely correct, it is not about the LDL levels per se, it is about how much cholesterol you have previously eaten. So if you regularly eat a lot of cholesterol the extra effect on LDL is rather small, but it can rise dramatically if you have a habit of eating very little or no cholesterol.

[@JustAskTheAxis]

Exactly. She smoothly avoids that inconvenient detail - like a seasoned used car dealer selling you a lemon. Sad to think how many people watching will be taken in.

[@EdwardLindon]

@@JustAskTheAxis What a foolish, cynical and baseless accusation.

[@JustAskTheAxis]

@@EdwardLindon okay, let me qualify my comment. one could argue that her omission is not an intentional deception but merely negligence and incompetence. Either way, she is culpable for misleading viewers who are unaware that when she refers to “normal” cholesterol levels, she doesn’t mean normal as in “okay” or “sufficient” - rather , she means the highly elevated cholesterol levels that are “normal” to people consuming a standard American diet (SAD). It’s an important difference,

[@zodd67]

This is why I'd like to see this Dr debate someone from the plant based side, I'm not convinced eggs is good for long term health.

[@carinaekstrom1]

@@zodd67 Yes, why eat eggs when you can eat something nutritious with fiber and phytonutrients instead? I would say everything is a matter of comparison.

[@careyjamesmajeski3203]

I’m American. I eat three eggs in the morning, five days a week and sometimes on the weekend. I work in a greenhouse and am generally active (though I do not exercise). I have no cholesterol or cardiovascular issues and actually have trouble putting on weight. I was vegan for seven years, and eggs are what my diet was lacking. Hard to believe that folks view them negatively. But doctors are full of shit. They parrot what they’re told by industry group, and rarely if ever take a critical look at what they’re fed by government or industry sources. They’re only use is emergency services.

[@dianalivingconsciously9013]

What does being "american'' have to do with eating eggs, if you don't mind me asking.

[@FrogmortonHotchkiss]

@@dianalivingconsciously9013 I LOL'd, but maybe it's cos of the situation there with for-profit doctors. OR it's like when people feel the need to preface every statement with something like, "As a mom..." 😀

[@rebanelson607]

@@dianalivingconsciously9013 Listen to the comparison presented around 11:00 and you will understand.

[@Kwippy]

As a 21st century American, you are entitled to your own truth, and everything else said by anyone is a scam or just stupid. Well done you.

[@FrogmortonHotchkiss]

@@Kwippy Steady on 😂

[@wendy1908]

Love your presentations! I'm a dietitian and diabetes educator in Australia and must admit that I plagiarise parts of some of your talks with my patients. Thankyou Zoe for making it so easy for me to stay up to date. Please come to Australia soon!!

[@figgettit]

why don't you just acknowledge the source like a human being?

[@Mr.BobsDog]

Yeah like a normal human being

[@EricaNernie]

Hope you aren't still advocating the Standard Australian Diet (SAD) with lots of carbs. Dietitians are to blame for a lot of misinformation, given that the guidelines are out of date, and your organisation is funded by Big Food.

[@TheScottEF]

I would add that food-based cholesterol does affect your blood cholesterol, it just varies by individual. Years ago, I had a very rich dinner before an annual check-up the next day, and my bad cholesterol was up almost 50 points. Being mindful back to my normal diet since then, and my blood cholesterol came back down to its normal range in subsequent years. Nothing else I can recall was different.

[@doddsalfa]

So it’s pretty safe not calling eggs a superfood

[@iainathairydog]

I wonder how long your blood chloresterol was raised after a very rich dinner. Does the body adjust over a few days?

[@ladybugsareviciousdefenders]

So your body’s mechanisms went to work, sending out the taxis to collect stuff to take back to the liver, and worked pretty hard, hence the change in numbers. Well done, your body works and cholesterol scaremongering is a load of twaddle.

[@genomedia44]

Fantastic. Could you also tackle the myths around fiber and saturated fats? (Like you said, counter the "old research")

[@violetviolet888]

@genomedia44: In the youtube search bar type in "sugar industry fat" and a ton of videos will result explaining the story of the sugar industry going after the saturated fat industry and winning. We're all still suffering from this problem.

[@JohnMoseley]

During the current egg shortage, often the only eggs available in my local Sainsbury's have been Old Cotswold Legbars, which are bluish and have a picture of the rather unusual chicken that lays them on the box. On one such day in the egg aisle, I saw a man standing motionless looking at them. 'Well,' I said, putting a box in my basket, 'This is all there is.' 'But I haven't tried these,' said the main, as if it was a terrible worry. 'They're fine,' I said, 'normal eggs.' He opened a box and pointed, 'They're blue.' 'It's perfectly alright,' I said, it's a good egg.' He pointed at the bird on the box. 'It's not a chicken,' he said. I left him to it.

[@CrazyGaming-ig6qq]

Egg shortage? wow, never imagined that could happen.

[@mockturtle1402]

There still seems to be a lot of fear mongering here. There is no evidence that eggs are bad for us, so why the artificial limit of one-a-day? It's the about the cheapest quality protein, even now, so whatever you replace that second or third egg with will either be not as good, or much more expensive. If this advice would have someone who enjoys an omelette for breakfast, only having it 2 or 3 times a week, and eating toast or a bowl of cereal the other mornings - has it improved their health, or actually made it worse, with elevated blood glucose most mornings.

[@karenharvey2549]

I really eny your shorts. Thank you for clearing up a lot of misinformation

[@jonmoore4588]

She said "dietary cholesterol has little effect on blood cholesterol". That is possibly disingenuous as it can be both true and false. Blood serum cholesterol can be expressed as a sigmoidal curve, whereby if you're in the upper region, additional dietary cholesterol doesn't push you higher. If you're in the lower ranges, dietary cholesterol absolutely pushes up blood serum cholesterol. Basically at a certain point, blood serum cholesterol 'tops out' and won't necessarily go higher. Only half the story is presented in this video. Her statement is accurate only where higher blood serum cholesterol is preexisting. The full picture is more nuanced.

[@barbettecaravaggio7675]

This 100%. Thanks for saying this... i don't get why people always pick half the info they like and fits their story, and leave out the rest. I guess that is what they call cherry picking...

[@trotskyite1]

​@@barbettecaravaggio7675 people like to hear good news about their bad habits

[@sw6118]

If you already have high cholesterol, you’re just adding to a problem. At medium levels you may be pushing yourself up to the problem range, if you have low cholesterol feel free to eat them. I was told that egg yolk contains the cholesterol and that I’m free to use the whites. He didn’t establish her credentials either.

[@jamiepitcher2055]

Exactly!! Thank you 💚 plus there are some very important reasons for us a to be transitioning away from animal products in took plant-based diet besides health.. there's land use greenhouse gas and animals rights... I won't get into it all in detail here but animal agriculture has got to go... Plant strong ✌️💚

[@jamiepitcher2055]

​@@trotskyite1 exactly.. and there's definitely a huge amount of cognitive distance at play here with most of our current world population on subjects black animal. For the same reason a lot of our are in denial about what the oil and gas industry is doing.. it's very similar but more people are connected to animal agriculture.. so that's why more people are experiencing cognitive dissonance about it then oil and gas.. it is so obvious when you look at statistics of surveys or even populations of people that vote one way or the other in different states or provinces that people are hugely bias to whatever it is that they're comfortable with and don't want to change he'll deny the science on it and skew the data and favour some of the outliers or industry-funded studies

[@raptorone7327]

As a kid in the 1960’s I remember the “Go to work on an egg” TV advert fronted by Tony Hancock, I even had a badge with the slogan on. It was not in the 1950’s.

[@angelawalker1098]

Thank You Dr. Sarah you are a wonderful speaker very coherent with exceptional knowledge

[@beverleyroberts1025]

Loved this! I've been eating eggs on regular basis for years. They are also excellent for brain health as they contain an important nutrient called choline Go for organic if you can, as they contain much more nutrients which is down to the natural diet of the chicken. They are relatively cheap and a powerhouse of nutrients. 🐔 😚

[@oleksandrdanylov6076]

choline degrades with cooking

[@beverleyroberts1025]

@Betty Amber Thank you for such a good and accurate answer! 😚

[@angelamitchell5503]

I love eggs and could eat them every day. At present I'm buying my eggs from a local farm, fresh from the hen!

[@jgreen9361]

I have switched to Organic eggs, but not for nutritional reasons. Organic means smaller flock sizes and better welfare for the hens. The UK government at some point in the last 12 years lowered the standards required for eggs to be free range, a step I was appalled by.

[@bertlindsay]

​@Oleksandr Danylov then have some raw. I do in iced coffee. Makes it nice and creamy

[@letitiastenning102]

Thanks Zoe for another useful video on nutrition. I used to believe that eggs were “bad” because of previous guidance and this was compounded by the results of a food intolerance test that showed me to have high intolerance to apricots and egg whites. I stopped eating both though not always possible to completely avoid egg whites. Now I know that egg whites are a “complete” protein I’m wondering if I should ignore my intolerance result…

[@tonykelpie]

The ‘food intolerance test’ may be unreliable. If however you notice adverse effects yourself from eating egg whites then there are plenty of other sources of protein

[@harsh0811]

3 Questions: I am a healthy male in late twenties, am i ok to have 3 cooked eggs a day (omelette)? I lift weight. Is it the same nutrition value whether you drink your eggs raw/raw form in smoothie and when you cook them? Are UK organic eggs from supermarkets better than non-organic eggs (health wise)? Thank You

[@akeshharrypersad4487]

I can safely like this video. She did a marvelous job with her explanations...

[@wendywilliams9893]

Great information as always. Sensible stuff

[@harvinderubhi5540]

Really.....

[@amaynard5903]

I am shocked by the lack of rigorous science on Zoe. The recent egg studies are largely sponsored by the egg industry, Further more the high saturated fat causes heart diseae.

[@sunnysidey]

Not to mention the cruelty of the egg industry. Why would you eat eggs when there are so many other plant based foods that are not only much healthier but much kinder to animals.

[@joannepizel2728]

Eggs have very little saturated fat and any of the studies I have seen are not sponsored by the egg industry. Which studies are you talking about?

[@joannepizel2728]

@@nickarrizza one large egg has 1.5g of saturated fat. I suggest you go broader in your research than Dr Barnard. If you don't want to eat eggs for humane reasons I completely understand. I was just letting you know the bit about saturated fat is not true. Have a great day 😊

[@sgilluk]

Sarah says, post meal glucose spike has an unfavourable effect on inflammation, can you provide are reference for this?

[@mrscpc1918]

What about the deleterious effects on arterial function/ endothelium?

[@lesleyvivien2876]

Thank you - that was a lovely video! Please can you tell me why a few articles I've read say to stop at three eggs a week if you have diabetes? Is that really one size fits all, or does it, like most other things, depend on what else you're eating?

[@joannepizel2728]

Do more research as everything I've read shows eggs are great for diabetes. I am wearing a Continuous Glucose Monitor and eating 4 eggs each morning does not cause any spike in my blood sugar. Whereas if I eat oatmeal or any carbs in face, it spikes.

[@lesleyvivien2876]

@@joannepizel2728 Wow thank you Joanne! I'm obviously researching in all the wrong places!

[@nicholaspostlethwaite9554]

@@joannepizel2728 Well of course, there is effectively no sugar/carbs in the eggs. So it would not spike blood sugar. However it 'may' well be killing you via cholesterol!

[@dougnettleton5326]

​@Nicholas Postlethwaite This is nonsense. Your liver is manufacturing most of the cholesterol in your blood. Cholesterol in the yoke of an egg is largely broken down by the digestive process.

[@lesleyvivien2876]

@@dougnettleton5326 In any case, there is a school of thought that says high cholesterol is the body's response to cardiac damage, *not* the cause: and that the original research was flawed. I'm sure you also know that statins are a massive earner for the pharmaceutical companies, so they will certainly want to keep the great cholesterol myth alive. ​@Nicholas Postlethwaite may not know that!

[@kengaskins5083]

Great information Sarah & Jonathan! I only eat eggs when I go out to a cafe for breakfast and can't find a vegan option (i.e. a burrito of mainly rice, beans, vegetables, and salsa). I'm not a strict vegan at this time (I eat a few small tins of fish a couple times a week, so I suppose I'm a pescatarian), but this information helps alleviate a lot of my concerns about eggs. I will probably just keep it at 3 eggs per week due to my environmental & welfare concerns for chickens, but I won't be overly concerned about eating a few more eggs at times. Thanks!

[@lauratanln]

www.clevelandheartlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Taking-a-Closer-Look-at-TMAO-CHL-D077.pdf

[@tomoakley760]

I recently got done reading Lisa mosconi's Brain Food book, and she recommends about 3 eggs per week for brain function. Same with fish. Veg and whole grains in abundance, some fermented food for microbial activity.

[@emilyhops2566]

It was all part of the grand plan to sell cerial. I love eggs, i eat the whole egg, a lot. Eggs. Fast food and good for you.

[@kevinseymour3725]

Where is the references for the studies mentioned?

[@sgilluk]

Agree, Sarah says "the latest research says" but no reference to it anywhere!

[@CaseyKCRichards]

As a professional bodybuilder now 60 yrs of age… i eat 4-6 whole eggs , mostly 4 eggs a day every day. I know the nutrition value of the egg. Besides, i also know that cholesterol is not a problem based on what the top doctors have said about having high LDL. I am in great shape and health. On zero medications. I work out 4- days a week and do cardio up the mountains 2-3 a week. By diet is getting better as i am slowly studying all about farmed salmon and processed food which now i stay away from.If you exercise even walk everyday and watch your by eating healthy carbs you can eat pretty much till your full. People don’t want to exercise.

[@Q_QQ_Q]

I eat 5 eggs a day . No processed sugar, no bread etc .

[@MsTony1402]

One egg a day... oops I‘ve been eating 4-5 a day for years lol

[@joannepizel2728]

Should be fine. I have 4 at least a day and my cholesterol is GREAT!

[@stephaniehenderson6631]

Are eggs from hens fed flax seeds high in omega 3 fats and lower in cholesterol? I love eggs and find they prevent hunger cravings really well, but I have high ldl, also high hdl- not requiring statins according to my Doctor, but I am told to be careful.

[@solomonsalsberg5961]

Arteries are so smooth that almost nothing sticks or clogs them. What is clogging Arteries is oxydized fats, when heated to high they oxidize an create plates that that stick and clog them. Main stream doctors are not allowed to tell you the truth about the new studies or they will loose their license. Look up Ansel keys and the k-ration and his 9 country study and the research up to Dr mark Hyman functional medicine and Andrew weil intergraded medicine and see the bigger picture. Insurance companies Big Agra The alphabet agencies that were not elected to office but put their and are influenced by lobbyists and more .. We are being scammed ...

[@benreeve9130]

If you have high HDL and low triglycerides, no need to worry about LDL

[@elizabethwatson4209]

The ethical issues still remain a significant deterrent to the consumption of eggs .

[@tonycollyweston6182]

​@Betty Amber probably you be a savage

[@richardsaunders1350]

​@Betty Amber more than a billion male chicks are disposed of each year because they have no value. Watch the disposal on you tube and then say you have no ethical issues.

[@littlemswolf]

This is so informative. I remember the shortage back in February and seeing all these elderly folks standing around the area where you picked up the eggs in the store. It was then that I realized that many of our elderly population in the USA eat eggs more so then meat because of the cost. When I became a vegetarian I started looking at where my food came from. Range free eggs are harder to get in my area and extremely expensive when they are there, so I opt for cage free eggs. Thanks for the video.

[@littlevoice_11]

I hope you comment on the negative impact that some may experience from eggs based on their gut microbiome. Dr Greger reported the research regarding TMAO

[@eightiesmusic1984]

What are wggs? Are they bad for people?

[@littlevoice_11]

@80s Music thank you. "Wggs" was a typo for "eggs". Please excuse me and thank you for your comment bringing it to my attention

[@midi166]

Eggs have a lot of choline, which gets transformed to trimethylamine in certain microbiome, then gets oxidized to TMAO in the liver, and that substance circulates around the body as a cardio-toxin until it is eliminated. Cue the next egg to be consumed, and TMAO reappears again.

[@vthomas375]

What about egg consumption and cancer risk and/or egg production and the avian flu threat?

[@bethdoughty114]

My egg consumption has never wavered. I don't necessarily have eggs every day, but that is only because I have a variety of foods available. The number I have at any one time can vary depending what I'm eating as my meal/ A 5 egg omelette,3 hard boiled eggs with mayonaise, or 2 with a salad. 1 or 2 fried eggs with bacon and /or sausages. How many do I eat a week? That depends on what I fancy to eat and when - anything from zero upwards

[@fotodille]

Nice info! I would love to have a bit of follow-up on the differences between soft boiled and hard boiled egg(yokes). I'm practically unable to eat hard boiled because what it does to my stomach, and I definitely like the soft yoke taste better anyway, so that's not a personal issue, but are there differences in nutritional content depending on how hard you cook the eggs?

[@rebekahhobbs9605]

Are you sure you might not have a food sensitivity to eggs? Eggs are one of the most common food allergies/intolerances. You shouldn't be experiencing stomach upset from a hard boiled egg. You're sure soft boiled eggs don't upset your stomach and only hard boiled ones do? More vitamins remain intact if eggs are soft boiled vs hard boiled, but Idk why it would affect your digestion like that. Are you sure you're able to eat eggs no problem if they are cooked inside other things, like brownies, cakes, puddings, or carbonara?

[@fotodille]

@@rebekahhobbs9605 Sure there may be intolerances. There is a lot more to the story, but not relevant for this forum :)

[@tuulashaw1524]

Very interesting. I would really like to know what research she refers to here and who paid for that research.

[@martingrady7654]

I have Typ 2, keep fit, BMI 23, and perfect blood pressure. One Dr says do not eat eggs and the other says eat eggs, when I found I have Typ 2, I started to eat up to 24 eggs per week, then found my Cholesterol had gone up to 5. I have since changed to having Two Chicks Egg whites in omelets 5 x per week and on weekends have 4 x full eggs, my cholesterol has reduced. So now the Dr who wants me to eat full eggs is really pushing Statins, I just do not get it, I walk hard 3 to 4 miles per night, and do 5-mile walks on weekends, doing loads of press ups, sit ups etc, the information is confusing, but I have decided no matter how hard they push, I do not want to take the statins. The last bit is nothing to do with eggs, but just to show the confusion :)

[@radicalcartoons2766]

As soon as you get your D2 under control, it's like they say "oh damn, now what can we push on him/her". I've refused Statins in writing and they STILL try to push them on me.

[@nicholaspostlethwaite9554]

I agree generally. It is not that it is confusing, it is that the supposed experts whose jobs are in the health area and ought to know and understand these issues a lot easier than me, not only say different things they appear not to know. Perhaps the truth is none of it is true, its all guess work, but careers depend on them sounding confident of having the right answer to the patients. My GP wants me on statins too. Way higher than you at 8 last time. Just not interested or able to say why it is high though, never even ask what I eat. Just box ticking to push statins. BMI 21. HbA1c last time 38 non diabetic range. Diabetic, original Hospital consultant said tp1, (late onset) am using insulin, noticed GP notes say tp2. These experts just guess it seems. So what chance of a KZbinr having anything right?

[@violetviolet888]

Eat real food created by nature, eat organic. Don't worry about the rest.

[@planetag310]

Each day I have 4 eggs for breakfast and 2 in the evening before bed. That includes 2 yolks and 6 whites. I'm 65 and have no health issues beyond low thyroid.

[@hdw5831]

Very good to discuss this topic although I have a few questions. Why isn't it better explained what scientific findings at the time proclaimed eggs were bad? How is it possible that the scientific findings of then and now are so at odds with each other? 2. Why is no attention paid to the saturated fatty acids in eggs or are they no longer harmful too? I think these are two aspects that are so obvious and yet they are hardly discussed.

[@colintaylorperry6179]

Nothing wrong with butter...

[@brianlooksaround6125]

Please discuss the concern about eggs encouraging cancer, specifically colon and prostate cancer.

[@odststalker5117]

I friggin love eggs, I eat them almost daily

[@DavidPaulMorgan]

I've moved over to 2 eggs per day and reduced the amount of carbs right down. I'm enjoying 2 fried or poached eggs on half an avocado. (with salad, tomatoes and kimchee/sauerkraut.) . I think it's helping with my joints aches.

[@carriedraper8202]

I appreciate listening to your content. Curious though, what specific studies are you referencing when you say that recent studies have debunked concern about eggs. I would like to know where you are getting the data and who funded it.

[@jackschitt6235]

I know I'm not the only one who's had enough of the back and forth between the different groups who have their own agendas. I've been living with diabetes since 1998 and haven't spent a night in the hospital yet! I have to think about diet and weight management and health more than the people who are still in good health and probably still taking their health for granted. "They" scared people off of eggs because of saturated fat and cholesterol because of the belief that those things lead to heart disease. They told people to eat oatmeal and drink orange juice. Then millions of people became overweight type 2 diabetics from all the sugars/starches/grains etc. Now many people are slimming down on low carb high fat diets but even the cardiologists don't agree if that is foolish long term even if it is working in the short term for slimming down and getting better control of the high blood sugar problem. Then you have the vegans who are almost more concerned about the animals than they are their own long term health. Then you have the worthless government who lets the big companies "mislead" people about what things like "cage free" actually mean. The companies take advantage of the people who do care about the animals and the environment but still do believe that homosapiens need to eat meat/eggs/dairy etc to be well nourished. I'm a reader and it's not even all completely clear to me what is the "right" thing to do and when it is or isn't worthwhile to agree to pay more for "pasture raised" etc. So what in the bleep can you expect from people who aren't inclined to put much thought into these matters?

[@asarcadyn2414]

I found it easiest just to give all plants and stop listening to anyone about nutrition.

[@nicholaspostlethwaite9554]

I agree it is a nightmare to get straight true information. Every KZbinr is probably biased, selling their book. diet plans, supplements, or just channel subscribers. Half truths from most, just the bits that support their ideas. Worse we can not trust governmental advice either as they have been wrong and/or do not correct advice when things change from better research. Plus all the supposedly 'good' stuff is always the expensive stuff.

[@jackschitt6235]

@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 Are you in the USA like me or elsewhere? During the quarantine I started watching more tv than I normally would just to pass the time. I watched some of the guru book sellers on PBS and their books are in the library. They are all claiming that they keep up on all the latest studies and are trying to summarize things for "average" people and address some of the myths etc. But they are all giving different diet advice. The one doctor is for the vegan diet and the other one is not. Some of those guys are on the QUACKWATCH list. People tend to think they can trust what is on PBS and what is in the library. My mom was watching Dr Amen the Psychiatrist. If you Google him some mental health professionals have said he is a huckster! He's made millions. Everyone has an agenda it seems.

[@nicholaspostlethwaite9554]

@@jackschitt6235 No I am in the UK. Far less if anything on tv here it is on line like here, that all these vested interest 'hucksters' seem to gather. It amazes me anyone buys these books many have. Overall it is a failure of central governments to study and make such videos or even books themselves. Advised by the best national scientists, and presented by competent presenters, accepting most scientists are not good at presentation, it's not their 'job' skill. This information stream should also debunk misinformation regularly. It is like Government and science organisations, have not noticed the internet and how people look for information! Even medics, doctors, GPs in UK, seem largely out of touch and just ticking boxes for an easy life.

[@lauratanln]

You may not care about cramping hens in smelly overcrowded prisons 24/7 to produce their menstrual product for you to enjoy, but this article is about another substance you should be aware of for health: www.clevelandheartlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Taking-a-Closer-Look-at-TMAO-CHL-D077.pdf

[@jamesmawlncusod.lknosfkja5138]

So really it's disturbing that the information given by professionals is so contradictory that the rest of us who are not educated in this field a completely lost

[@icecoffee8380]

I eat 14 eggs a week for the last 5 years and no problems whatsoever.

[@jimjim-hx6fd]

My understanding is that of the cholesterol contained in food, most of it is esterified and of the small percentage that's actually free for absorption only about half of that, on average, makes it into the blood, and assuming you have a functioning liver the body is very good at down regulating endogenous production when more free exogenous cholesterol makes its way in. There's some individual variation in regards to your ability to de-esterify, and how much you absorb; but long story short, unless you're in the top few percent of hyper-absorbers, you're probably fine having a few eggs. Where you can get into trouble is if you're pairing your eggs with saturated fat, i.e. bacon, ham, cheese, butter -- as that amplifies the absorption effect. Lots of comments here claiming eggs skyrocketed their LDL. I'd be curious what else was on their plate. Checkout Simon Hill's series with Tom Dayspring or Nutrition Made Simple. They both did really extensive and nuanced breakdowns.

[@michaelpowell4202]

I know that this comment is very late but I was just offered and watched this video. I have a question that I am hoping you'll get and still answer. My understanding is that cooking causes chemical changes to the food and cooking can, in some cases, improve the effective nutritional value of the food so my question is "what about eggs?" Does it matter how you cook the egg - soft boiled, hard boiled, poached, fried, baked, or, even, raw? After being introduced to Zoe through your Covid tracking, I have continued to watch, enjoy and learned a lot from your numerous nutritional videos. Thank you for sharing your expertise.

[@violetviolet888]

@michaelpowell4202: Type this into the youtube search bar and you'll find your answer: "does cooking an egg make it more nutritious"

[@johnny7808]

I wish chrome had a plug-in that could look at a video title "x things you needs to know" and immediately extract those 4 things from the transcripts.

[@esfanintan]

Why are the studies mentioned by the good doctor is not listed.

[@pilnes]

One reason for a decline in egg consumption not mentioned in the video was the salmonella scare, in the UK at least. Edwin Currie, as a health minister, scared the bejesus out of the population by saying the bacterium was present in just about all chickens.

[@kevinseymour3725]

Hi eggs haven’t declined in the uk consumed 13.5 billion eggs last year & its been going up since 2006

[@eightiesmusic1984]

Edwina Curry. Resigned December 16th 1988. British egg industry decimated. My dad picked me up from university for Xmas on that day- I remember it very well.

[@pilnes]

​@@eightiesmusic1984 Edwina, of course!

[@bethdoughty114]

Edwina Curry did not say 'almost all chickens had salmonella'. She said ALMOST all egg PRODUCTION was CONTAMINATED.. It was the media who spread the MYTH that she said all chickens and eggs had salmonella!

[@caroldannenberg9778]

Salmonella is normal flora in chickens. That's why you don't eat raw eggs. Cooking the egg kills the bacteria.

[@RT-wl7io]

Im so confused. One study says it's just cholesterol and can't be called nutritious. Another says it is nutritious. I don't know who to believe anymore.

[@melinashaughnessy9037]

Great to hear. I've had amazing results eating more fat, fewer carbs and intermittent fasting. I enjoy eggs but currently only have two a week. I shall increase the amount I eat now.

[@richardjackson5380]

Really don't.

[@greenwood4020]

why @@richardjackson5380

[@fruz1378]

You could probably have 2 a day without any problem really. ( there are medical conditions where this isn't true though, but those are .... medical conditions )

[@lauratanln]

www.clevelandheartlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Taking-a-Closer-Look-at-TMAO-CHL-D077.pdf

[@violetviolet888]

@@richardjackson5380 There is nothing wrong with eating one or two eggs a day. It's one of the healthiest proteins you can eat. Just make sure they're pasture raised or have your own chickens. Watch the video "What'll Happen to You If You Start Eating 3 Eggs a Day?"

[@ilonapsiuk1078]

I never believed in the cholesterol porkies , I usually demolish around 18 eggs a week and thrive.

[@eightiesmusic1984]

Demolishing them s such a waste- better to eat them in moderation. Eighteen a week sounds to eat. One is one too many to demolish. Protect the egg. Eggs are pure.

[@jan9562]

Focussing on 'complete protein' is not necessary since if you eat different proteins within a day - some studies show over 2 days - the body uses and combines them anyway.

[@georgekromidas5097]

It’s still better to focus on complete proteins, because incomplete proteins have inferior bioavailability.

[@richardjackson5380]

Reliable studies show that dietary cholesterol absolutely does have significant impact on blood cholesterol. All sorts of tricks get played by the Egg Board funded studies such as testing blood cholesterol first thing in the morning once the body has metabolised it. Also replacing other cholesterol high foods with eggs and claiming that the eggs made no difference!

[@clarifyingquestions]

So how many who large eggs can I eat per day? And should they be soft boiled, hard boiled or fried?

[@TerriblePerfection]

Eggs are the true superfood, especially paired with butter, another superfood! Don't believe the garbage about fat and cholesterol, two things that keep us alive.

[@sniperpd9505]

I love a scrambled egg with a sliver of Stilton cheese added. My favourite egg is a soft boiled one but I'm not good at timing it so I opt for scrambled.

[@catobie1948]

If you buy commercial eggs here in the US yolks are sickly pale yellow. They don't taste very good. However eggs seem to hurt my joints anway so I avoid them.

[@ghw7192]

The FDA changed their minds years ago, but people still believe rhat egg intake should be limited. I have an 80s cookbook that warns about eating eggs.

[@joe8172]

I keep my own chickens and generally eat 4+ eggs a day and have done for well over a decade. With the exception of cholesterol every single health marker is excellent even by the conventional medical standards and reference ranges. Cholesterol is only one risk factor of heart disease, and should be taken into account along with all the others, but because it was easily measurable it has become the default for many doctors. After both of my last two annual medicals my G.P. has highlighted concern over my slightly high total cholesterol and LDL. However, both my last lipid panels were essentially the same: Fasting status:Fasting Cholesterol:6.1 mmol/L ( < 5.0 ) H Triglyceride:0.8 mmol/L ( < 2.0 ) HDL Cholesterol:1.54 mmol/L ( > 1.00 ) LDL cholesterol:4.2 mmol/L ( < 3.4 ) H Chol/HDL Ratio:4.0 ( < 4.5 ) Comment:For most patients non-fasting lipids are acceptable for CVD risk assessment, as Chol/HDL ratio is not affected. For established CVD risk (including diabetes) NZGG optimal levels are Cholesterol < 4.0, LDL < 2.0 and Chol/HDL ratio < 4.0. From my reading of published research papers on cholesterol and the formulae used to calculate LDL-C, the low triglycerides throw out most of the formulae, which adjusted for reduces the LDL-C slightly but still above the high end of the range. However, it is my understanding that the fact the TG is low and HDL-C is high indicates my high LDL-C is not a concern as this pattern is consistent with the LDL-C being of the large buoyant type rather than the dangerous small dense LDL kind.

[@chinchorrero]

Great video (Unfortunately I am confuse)

[@Skylark_Jones]

I have high cholesterol though my BP is low, BMI low, don't smoke, cut down on sweets, drink moderately, very slim, and my diet pretty average. But recently because of my cholesterol level I was told by a health worker to not eat eggs or just eat the white part of it. What tends to happen is I don't buy them often but when I do, I fear them as a result of all the decades-old indoctrination about how bad eggs are, so they are usually left untouched in the cupboard! But I would love to eat them because I do like eggs but the info about them is so conflicting I don't know what to think anymore.

[@jax8009]

Cholesterol through diet has very little to do with your blood cholesterol levels. If you like to eat eggs, eat them.

[@skilla2542]

This is so me too! I am very slim but have high LDL. Mostly plant based with the odd egg thrown in. Mine sit in a box for weeks as I too have fear of them.

[@soniak2269]

Do you exercise? Moderate exercise has been shown to lower cholesterol

[@violetviolet888]

"@Skylark_Jones: Myth: Eggs are a GOOD cholesterol. "But the cholesterol in eggs doesn't seem to raise cholesterol levels the way some other foods, such as those high in trans fats and saturated fats, do." MAYO CLINIC "Eggs: Are they good or bad for my cholesterol? - Mayo Clinic"" Eat real food created by nature, eat organic. Don't eat processed food Don't worry about the rest.

[@jnottinghamborn5949]

A health scare 50 years ago. Well, how many times have we been told recently to follow the science? And how often do the scientists turn out to be wrong because of their blinkered studies? When I was a teenager in the 1970's, I still remember the trumpeted news story in the UK that said eating bacon and drinking coffee for breakfast causes cancer! 12 months later it was quietly retracted! I eat 2 eggs in an omelette every morning with some fresh tomatoes.

[@steve6375]

Yes, there have been many myths. What about full cream milk - now they are saying it can reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure and it does *not* raise cholesterol in most people - but we still drink skimmed milk!. This is all due to the press and pseudo-scientists getting hold of scientific papers and not fully understanding them. Another case is that we should all drink x litres of water each day - the original paper meant 'H2O' in liquids, but the 'media' mistook this to mean pure water and then the retail industry jumped on the band wagon and started selling bottled water and like sheep, everyone fell for it (though it is good in that they now don't drink junk soda/juice so much)! Another myth is that spinach is very rich in iron - no - it isn't - it was a misprint of the decimal point in a table in a scientific paper which didn't even mention spinach in the text!

[@kennethdavis1732]

Ok, I am a diabetic and make my own bread with my wife. We make Spelt Bread using Organic flour. After baking I cut the bread up and freeze it. I am of the understanding that toasting bread from the freezer does not raise the blood sugar is this right?

[@emh8861]

Test it yourself.

[@maxineadderley5378]

@@emh8861 flour of any kind is still high in carbohydrates, speaking from experience as a type 1 diabetic

[@zakariahussein962]

Beat Diabetes youtube channel has done many tests on different foods with his wife.

[@thebiglamb1]

Just completely remove bread from your diet. much much safer for a T2 diabetic. Discuss with your medical professional.

[@joannepizel2728]

Wear a Continuous Glucose Monitor and check. You learn soooo much! I saw no difference in toasting bread from the freezer vs regular. I did see a big difference if I ate heavily seeded bread though (much lower spike) and no spike at all if I had that seeded bread with avocado and eggs.

[@lisahodges8299]

I'm in my late 60s and we all felt that it was wicked to have more than one egg following the war. My attitude has remained the same I try to eat more but am not keen. Birdy

[@danthelambboy]

What about the combination of the saturated fat and cholesterol causing increase in cholesterol?

[@violetviolet888]

@danthelambboy Myth: Eggs are a GOOD cholesterol. "But the cholesterol in eggs doesn't seem to raise cholesterol levels the way some other foods, such as those high in trans fats and saturated fats, do." MAYO CLINIC "Eggs: Are they good or bad for my cholesterol? - Mayo Clinic"

[@brendanmccann5695]

She said in a previous video that egg fried in olive oil is better than poached. I was hoping for some detail on this. Sadly none!

[@violetviolet888]

@brendanmccann5695 Google this: "egg in olive oil is better than poached"

[@IPMan-me6lo]

I can say, since I changed my diet to low-carb, eating daily 2-3 eggs, my LDL has significant increased. 🤔

[@LoveJoyPeace4Life]

😮

[@davidr1431]

It’s interesting that this happens with some experts saying it is not a problem (in the absence of systemic inflammation) and others saying it is a significant warning sign.

[@Readyteddygo]

I eat 7 eggs every morning. I have low blood pressure and a 30 inch waist and I’m a 5ft10 man

[@TheFXofNewton]

Tl;dw: yolks are vital (fats, most nutrients, etc), white is basically protein (albumin)

[@moiraberniegatt9491]

Can anyone give me any insight regarding eating eggs when we have gallbladder sludge issues despite an apparently ZOE PERFECT diet? I’m going from 18 hour intermittent fasting to 15 to help reduce concentration of cholesterol in the gallbladder and increasing the green leafy veg to before each meal rather than a massive salad for breakfast. Thanks

[@greenwood4020]

I'm on 18hr intermittent fasting, no breakfast, main meal at lunch time so I can use up some of the carbs, mainly veg for evening meal so not much blood sugar when going to bed. After 6 months my blood sugars, cholesterol, uric acid and liver function are normal for the first time in 40 years Dr thought the lab made an error with my sample so we retested and all results are normal. He cant explain it but doesn't want to be-leave my intermittent fasting did. Also Gout and pill FREE Now I'm 69 and feeling healthier and have more energy then 10 years ago. No nightly urinations. Active micro farmer. NZ

[@lilytea3]

0:13: 🥚 Eggs have fallen out of favor due to the previous link between eggs and cholesterol, but recent research suggests that eggs pose no risk to our health and can provide health benefits. 4:34: 🥚 Eggs have been unfairly demonized due to misconceptions about dietary cholesterol, leading to the popularity of egg white omelettes and processed egg whites. 8:53: 🥚 Eggs are a convenient and healthy food option, and the current research shows that dietary cholesterol intake does not significantly affect blood cholesterol levels. 12:06: 🥚 Eggs can be part of a healthy diet, even for those who are sensitive to dietary cholesterol, as they provide protein and fat that can help regulate blood sugar levels and suppress appetite. 16:37: 🥚 Egg consumption is on the rise due to changing public opinion and increased demand during the pandemic. Recap by Tammy AI

[@skilla2542]

"Scrambled, poached or boiled, eggs are a popular breakfast food the world over. Yet the health benefits of the humble egg might not be all they're cracked up to be as new research from the University of South Australia shows that excess egg consumption can increase your risk of diabetes. Conducted in partnership with the China Medical University, and Qatar University, the longitudinal study (1991 to 2009) is the first to assess egg consumption in a large sample of Chinese adults. It found that people who regularly consumed one or more eggs per day (equivalent to 50 grams) increased their risk of diabetes by 60 per cent." Science Daily - November 15, 2020

[@keithdennis1462]

Thank you for posting. This is great news. I have tried to cut down on eggs but according to you there seems to be no problem having an egg now and then if you otherwise have a mainly healthy diet (we eat vegetarian most of the time).

[@pattylow1]

I lowered my cholesterol to below at total of 150 by cutting out all animal products and that includes eggs.

[@indranidasgupta8982]

@@pattylow1total cholesterol doesn’t mean anything. Look deeper at other numbers…

[@violetviolet888]

@keithdennis1462: There is no reason to cut down on eggs, it's one of the healthiest proteins you can eat.

[@gregorymcleod]

I am pre-diabetic with high cholesterol and I can eat up to 21 free range eggs a week. Only 1 a sitting normally high fat low carbohydrate breakfast like Bacon with fried egg and avocado and other 2 meals might have a boiled egg with garden salad and dressing normally balsamic vinegar my salads Contain raw vegetables like grated raw beetroot and carrots nuts and seeds tomatoes cucumber and a boiled egg. With a protein rich side. Like chicken, fish or beef. I have seen big reduction in blood glucose but no rise in cholesterol generally feel good from dinner I now eat early then fast 18hrs before breakfast the eggs and nuts certainly seem to help me not have hunger issues in morning I still only have the 1 cholesterol tablet at night and blood levels remain normal but more to point my sugar levels with out medicine back to normal range.

[@colinhunter776]

A very interesting review of the humble egg and it’s value nutritionally. One thing I wish to share is that in the UK free range egg production represented some 60% of the total volume in Q4 2022.

[@greenwood4020]

but the UK Gvt did change the definition of what "Free range" means to help the large manufacturers qualify to call their eggs free range. New Zealand has just done the same. What some Boutique free range farmers are now doing is stating the square meters per chicken of free range or pasture access

[@Ice-Fall]

I consume about 12 eggs a day. I prefer the yolk as orange as possible, even though lighter yellower yolked eggs contain the same amount of protein, the the micronutrients will not be on the same par.

[@andrewtaylor7235]

“Big fried breakfast bad for you” ! Just leave the toast out and eat the butter. Fat is good. Feel full and just eat two meals a day, or even OMD

[@benreeve9130]

Exactly these "experts" at zoe are mad, obsessed with fibre, demonizing meat and fat.

[@SimonBoothPhotography]

Sadly no mention of the link between eggs and prorate cancer as noted in the book How not to Die by Michael Greger. Eggs have been linked to hugely increasing prostate cancer risk. It’s a shame in some ways that ZOE has got so large because many of the questions/concerns here will never get answered. Mine included.

[@petermorrall8337]

Thank you. Cruelty is also involved in free range egg production (notably, the killing of male chicks and fictitious claims of freedom: refs PETA 2023 and Veganuary 2016)

[@davidr1431]

Like any animal food consumption, this is a truth we have to accept if we believe that doing so is desirable and/or necessary for optimal human health. It us a truth nonetheless.

[@mrhbarker]

Edwina Currie MP (remember her?) did alot of damage to the UK industry by stating that most UK egg farmers had salmonella