420cc Turbocharged Trike Revival & Boost Test!

[@TheLuMIze]

Build a 670 ( like on the dragster) and then boost it. Also redbeard is building a supercharged 670, so you guys should build a turbo one

[@haydenduncan9641]

Exactly what I was going to say! That would be awesome!

[@Liam-ir6xm]

@Andrey Angere he means nitrous

[@sammindell1090]

twin turbskis!!!!!!!

[@newzerozeroone]

I am?

[@projectcrowdsurfer3732]

I second this idea. Or ya can boost the dragster

[@hunterpetrovich1460]

Add a higher stall clutch so you can build boost off the line🙃

[@DieselRamcharger]

it won't build on the line with a clutch, you would need a viscous coupler and/or an electronic controlled anti lag system {bang bang}

[@tc1254]

Diesel Ramcharger if they ran E85 or race gas they can run more timing so it has less turbo lag

[@dalejackson5003]

The one cylinder has gaps in time in between the 4 cycles that don’t allow it to build much boost at all, but .5 psi is a difference for sure

[@CarsandCameras]

We always knew the turbo made a difference, but not THAT MUCH of a difference😳

[@colecampbell3432]

It's so awesome!!!!

[@everythingenginenate966]

CarsandCameras but it is cool so it doesn’t matter.

[@Jmauer]

You should build that 420 to rev higher

[@kristianellis1858]

Wow, just wow!

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

Need a front fork with suspension!

[@bricehency5495]

Twin turbskis on the Crosskart would be sick

[@ollilehtonen6764]

I suppose a single snail would suffice, but why not go twin since there's plenty of space and RPM to use. _Do it for Dale_

[@lobmin]

@@ollilehtonen6764 What does RPM have to do with the number of turbos?

[@quentin8094]

As if the motor could hold boost

[@nuke2249]

@@lobmin rpm poduces gas to spin turbskis

[@Rattus-Norvegicus]

@camjamsdad EEEYEEE!

[@theguyswithcars1480]

You guys should do a stage 3 build with that motor, keep the turbo. Make as much boost as possible

[@DieselRamcharger]

the more power the engine makes naturally the less "boost" you will see on the gauge...even though you are making more power. Boost is just the engines resistance to airflow.

[@natewj1077]

I second this...

[@El_Chompo]

Yes and maybe add some front wheels so they can turn and stop with all that power.

[@tc1254]

Diesel Ramcharger yes but if the motor pushes and pulls more air na it will spook turbo more

[@HawkinsRC_Official]

yeah.......and put a 94mm precision turbo on it

[@EdWolfram]

The new torque converter might let that get into boost before rolling out.

[@nolankoehn9724]

I'm building a turbo 420cc with a converter and I can't wait for the parts😂

[@nikolasramberg548]

Once your done with the comparison between the built NA 420 and the “stock” boosted 420 you should slap the turbo and fuel injection on the built one and see what it does

[@nothereoverthere.8245]

Grenade

[@ryleedurand8994]

do it

[@TheDr.Magnum]

This!

[@deangelolawson6184]

Has it been 4 years already🤔 Been a subscriber since the 50$ gokart build. Love the content guys an I've watch every episode when i can

[@rugger8787]

i’ve been here since black widow loved that build

[@colindavis2322]

I feel the same way. These guys are what got me started into automotive world 4 years back with the $50 go kart. I owe a lot to them for teaching me so much.

[@tc1254]

Deangelo Lawson same

[@Chubsandsubs]

Damn time flys when you're having fun. Who would of thought the trike was 4 years ago

[@zerkermond]

The idea at the end of episode is a really cool idea for a future series...you could side by side build them and then put them through a gauntlet of sorts...to see which one is more effective at giving you more "bang" for the buck...one of my favorite episodes so far. Keep up the great work...even though this footage is old your archive doesn't need to be watched in successive fashion...love this channel and the content

[@AxeyDesignsHD]

Sand rail with a 670 running EFI and the turbo with some big paddle tires on the back

[@Seniornuggets]

it wouldnt move lol

[@spreaddeezhazelnutz7511]

nick podgorny If a VW engine can do it, a built 670 making more hp and torque will do it better.

[@Seniornuggets]

PC Master Race good luck with a transmission lol, the built 670 barely moves the drag rail because of the lack of a proper transmission.

[@nicolas753]

nick podgorny no

[@InfidelGarage]

Started watching these guys just a month ago when I was researching drift trikes and man do they have some fun. Keep it up fellas

[@16driver16]

That chain driven front axle atv is sweeet!!!!!

[@mingusbreeze]

Thanks, guys it's always nice to have a blast from the past. I'd forgotten all about that trike.

[@slamboy66]

Love the Anodized look shades, reminds me of my 80's Anodized BMX parts.

[@charleshank8573]

Nutt lmAo 😂👍

[@martimmalfeito672]

I would love to see a turbo briggs!! Bring us one please!!

[@ThatOneGuy077]

A reverse trike would be awesome to see built.

[@hamiltonhoover792]

I was literally just thinking about this build last night. So cool to see you guys reviving it!

[@geothefisher]

It's time to revisit the dragster, and turbo it!

[@OGAutomotive1]

I dont get how people could hate this channel... these guys are the most chill guys on KZbin and the best youtubers like BRUH

[@nicolasp7395]

Build the diésel engine with turbo!

[@imhadisshaari5487]

I like your suggest ...because im same like with you

[@bob8085]

i think it would make more sense

[@synshenron798]

Yeah I mean they're called "turbo diesels" for a reason. It would be cool to see though

[@Icutmetal]

@@synshenron798 No shit?

[@holdenrice9694]

The good old Cars and Cameras white board... You guys definitely need one of those for the new shop.

[@04wheelerteddy23]

Yoo I've been waiting for this to come back

[@johnpcampanile]

Its been some time since we last seen the drift trike

[@nastynate5435]

Mee tooo

[@04wheelerteddy23]

@@johnpcampanile honestly though, the things are sweet, if I'm not mistaken there was 2 right?

[@sweeneysweeney1901]

So glad to see this made a come back

[@BrandonHvlogs]

Build a cross cart on steroids with that fuel injected BMW engine y’all have and turbocharge it. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@ryan14r95]

Brandon'svlog no nitrous

[@El_Chompo]

Oh man bringing it back! I remember this is how I found the channel!

[@thechryslercrew9417]

I think a smog pump supercharger on the rat rod wagon would be awesome!

[@GearHeadWW23]

Nice seeing the drift trike again :) Be safe guys!

[@drakegrossman5853]

They should build a reverse trike. Kinda like a slingshot

[@catfishbilly6341]

should they put a turbo on that Diesel Engine and make the ultimate tow rig

[@cameron_horton03]

Yessss I asked about this thing the other day. And ha to the guy that told me they sold it.they didn’t sell it. Glad to see this thing again

[@trevordavis4728]

Y’all were so against engine swapping the drag rail, yet it’s sat for over a year.....turbo drag rail!

[@liamhansen7037]

Set up a rear brake so it slides easy like if you in a car hand brake just to get the slide started. Love the videos I am from Australia and it 3:55 in the morning at the moment.

[@williammeyer558]

Oof

[@levinscustombuilds1070]

Definitely need a whiteboard in the new shop!

[@jamiekelley8501]

Been working on a revival of my first ever go kart motor. Gx160 I’ve put new Dyno Cam, 1.3 rockers, Mikuni carb, flat top piston, billet rod, billet flywheel. And I’m going to fit it with a blow through turbo. It’s complicated but I have a multi stage pressurized fuel system. Separate oiling system set at 13 psi. A while number of fabricated crazy ass parts. I’ll post a pic in comments when finished. Really enjoy the channel and have used a couple ideas from you guys.

[@kw6182]

I would love to see a reverse trike build, using the BMW bike perhaps.

[@marshakrebs4348]

Now what wheel or wheels would you put power to

[@airsoftoutback3174]

I help a lot with airshows and people seem to love when you lay rubber and drift so your heading in the right direction👍👍👍👍👍

[@krakhedd]

I'm still waiting on you guys to turbo that diesel

Love the content and beautiful creations John and Isaac build/make and put in effort tord they're videos. Everyone enjoys watching. Always looking forward to new videos.

[@euweemccutcheon9147]

I'd like to see the v-twin dragster turbo charged.

[@mitchellfrechmann599]

Yes i love the Turbo 420 Drift trike!!!!! One of my all time favorite things yall made!

[@thinkingmanhillbilly]

Try lowering the gearing so that you're in the Boost more of the time

[@doodlebug6833]

I cant believe this chanel has 791000 subs, i remember when the upload was uploaded "for the 9 reasons to buy a go kart" years ago. Barely having like 25k subs, time flies by like that turbo trike

[@swedebug2889]

Boost a 670cc. :) (or what size the green dragracer/cart had.)

[@Alk333_fan]

Man, it doesn’t seem like its been 4 years! Been watching since the rat rod wagon and love all your content!!!

[@drewtooker4243]

Smog pump supercharger on the next rail engine

[@ZaMplayCod]

Ive seen pit bikes with them but no numbers on performance gains or durability.

[@Forge_Fab]

@@@AustinRBa I've used a smog pump got about 10 psi on a 212cc. It's not worth the work. The pump wears out quickly .

[@TheStryct9]

Im doing one now not for the eightball camaro kart but a mini drag bike im building should be fun.

[@TheStryct9]

@@Forge_Fab that's disappointing news I was about to put one on my mini drag bike.

[@spreaddeezhazelnutz7511]

Chris W You could find one of those tiny Japanese made ASM300 superchargers online for $200. I know people use the ASM500 model which is a little bit larger to supercharge the 670 twins.

[@vinnyvega1985]

So awesome! A lot of people struggle with small engines and turbos. Be cool so see you guys take this further since you’ve had some luck! A built 420 turbo on a 4 wheeled machine would be amazing!

[@theone2be33]

Ike with his beard reminds me of Hulk Hogan! Lol

[@thedude7726]

Oooooohhhhhh yyyyyeahhhhh brotherrrrrrrrrrr

[@slamboy66]

When he went to the dark side on "Muppets from space" .

[@chilledsoul.]

You guys should make a serious drag mini bike that you could actually take to the race track, I would love to watch a video like that!

[@jesselayden9480]

that thing is cool!! i'm stilll waiting for a diesel minibike lol.

[@octane613]

Speaking of diesel, I wish they'd do something with that big thumper diesel instead of wheelies.

[@ryan14r95]

Dragster with the BMW 1000 nitrous. Won’t be beaten

[@trob5202]

Turbocharge that Diesel engine you guys have. Turbo diesel go cart!

[@jasonpetrich4141]

Wow you can really hear how much the turbo helps it accelerate, that's crazy!

[@brmotoren9889]

Put the Ducati engine on the quad (the subscriber one) with 4wd, with big tires, and name it the ducquadi

[@williammeyer2816]

Speaking of drift trikes and air shows at the Duluth air show (2019) someone had a drift trike taxi out a mini plane and it was the coolest thing I think I’ve ever seen

[@77nizzova53]

I really thought one of ya was gonna break a foot or leg!!!!!

[@robertpayne6960]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. They need better foot pegs that offer more positive hold ( rubber/ toothed) and maybe a heel catch.

[@jonwilly2]

I cant remember the details of the build at this point but advancing the timing a little will help a little as well. And the timing keys are cheap to get.

[@krakhedd]

Does it have a boost tank? On 1 cylinder engines, there should be a sort of "holding tank" since the turbo is pushing against closed valves for a large part of crank rotation

[@suprafst4465]

I love how the alternator is just mounted directly to the wheel

[@jaratt85]

I'd suggest putting mini floorboards with heel protectors on that thing before one of you brakes his heel/foot on the ground.

[@retrorocketman6969]

Hey guys the karts are awesome. I'm glad to see the use of used parts its more affordable. Awesome!!!!

[@shelbyrybolt3279]

I would say if you want off the line power go to a super charger. It takes more time for a turbo to Spool up as to where a super charger runs off a belt. it’s more instantaneous. Love your builds this trike looks huge

[@540iadicted]

I'm sure it makes a nice difference. I have a Rhino 660 with a Garrett T20 turbo on it and it runs fantastic. Nearly everyone continuously says that single cylinder engines don't respond well to boost, and carburetors (which my 660 is) don't tune out well with boost ever. Yet the normal "build" for a Yamaha 660 is to bore it out to a 686, and my stock displacement at only 4psi is quite a bit stronger. Not to say it won't ever be a bit more temperamental, but by now it's pretty well dialed

[@tejr98]

Just picked up a free dingo SE go cart. I've watched so many of you guy's vedios and didnt realize this stuff costs alot of money. I mean OEM quad and sxs parts type money. But you guy's builds are great keep up the good work.

[@hoodinitheamazingnothd4450]

Hey @CarsandCameras add an "air chamber" on the cold side right after the turbo you will see the difference!! That chamber will act like a "pre boost" for the engine, its gonna be able to suck in more air (more volume) as soon as you hit that throttle more air is gonna be able to get to the engine then, by the same effect push more aire into the hot side making more boost

[@frankensteincreations4740]

Try to restrict the exhaust outlet off of the turbo. It might make a little more back pressure on the turbine and make more boost. Kinda like going to a smaller a/r turbine housing. Just thinking that little engine and being stock probably doesn’t move much air through it. So the exhaust gases probably aren’t all that much, in volume and velocity or speed... just a thought. Turbos rock!

[@kevinsellsit5584]

When I saw it take off into the grass, it was clear that it was making boost about 20 feet out and digging ruts. It is lean AF when you slam the throttle open. The computer may learn to compensate for this or you need more fuel pressure. I would recommend you both learn better throttle modulation. Using the throttle to help maintain intake velocity will improve performance with all the aftermarket parts you use. When you slam the throttle open (and you both slam the throttle open), you stop the airflow and manifold vacuum falls to 0. The fuel injection demands more pulse width to the injector but low pressure fuel systems are slow to respond. On carbureted engines that have an accelerator pump (most 1 cylinder engines do not) the accelerator pump supplies fuel to compensate for the lack of airflow through the venturi when the throttle is slammed open and manifold vacuum goes to 0. With or without the accelerator pump, learning to modulate the throttle will make you faster. When building your machines use a bell crank or other device to allow for a long pedal movement that will slowly apply the throttle. Ask any superbike rider about throttle modulation, it is what keeps the bike on the road, and wins races. Thanks for another awesome carsandcameras video.

[@glendecuir6317]

Enjoyed the entertainment, hold the brake WIC the throttle adds up to boosted turbo launch. We call that wicking the turbo. lots of fun guys thanks

[@mitchelcool2933]

If you ran a compound setup even both the same little turbos would you generate more boost or doesn’t it work like that when there wasn’t enough exhaust gasses in the first place?

[@ronniec3]

I was wondering if you had a pipe bender to bend intake and exhaust tubing to make it flow smoother would it make a difference

[@v8power561]

You need to make your videos longer! Awesome builds Every time!

[@highlifejay3211]

Compound twin turbo trike, more power baby!

[@matthewmoss222]

Need to add a air tank of sorts in line with the compressor side of the turbo and intake. That will allow the turbo to build boost. I've been a long time subscriber and love to watch the content y'all put together. Keep up the great work. Thanks!

[@marklatorre9192]

When watching the you tube episode watched you guys struggle to install a turbocharger on a carbureted engine, well try this, build an exhaust chamber that the carb will fit inside of on one end braze in a sheet metal plate that will bolt between the carb and the intake throat to the engine with a passageway that matches the carbs. on the other end slip on a cone adapter that will attach to the turbocharger boost line the tricky part is to rig up the linkages and choke to the carb through the chamber sides seal the shafts as much as you can for little turbo boost losses but still allow them to operate. You simply must pressurize the inside and the outside at the same time and use a regulator and electric fuel pump that will maintain 3-5 psi above the boost level at all times. your stock carb will do fine. this will work and you will not believe the results...Mark

[@dzyrides6780]

Question.. if I switch from a 6in torque converter to a 7in do I need a different belt? If so do you know which belt I would need. Also it's a 30series. Thanks in advance.

[@arafatmotogarage]

Turbo realy makes hell lot of difference... After watching this I'm also thinking to install turbo on my homemade buggy project..

[@bobbyhagler9918]

One build I do miss y'all riding around on seems so much fun

[@Redman-qe3yc]

I think it would be cool to bring back the old drag kart yall have built and turbo that with all the work done to it and see how much more power you could make with it.

[@gmeister03]

Time for a $10,000 turbo drift trike. Stage 4 440, efi and boosted... maybe a torque converter to lay on the skids... man, I’d love to build one. Daaamn

[@chandlerrohl1014]

the silver truck at the back looks good man!

[@johnweeks538]

Awesome somebody FINALLY said might build a 4 wheel drive gocart come on get that build going I can't wait and I'm sure other people would like to see that build and the test ride LOL

[@HouseOfThe8Strings]

Forgot about this thing! Glad to see it back. Also, got my new shirt in. IT'LL BE FINE

[@bobwhite5440]

consider putting a wideband O2 sensor on it and see what afr is and adjust fuel if needed . run e85 and more timing?

[@SteveIrwinsPetStingray]

You guys should make an air capacitor to go between the turbo and throttle body. The turbo only spools when the exhaust valve is open so it's not gonna be very efficient on a single cylinder engine. The boost capacitor stores that pressurized air for when the exhaust is closed so the engine is getting consistent boost pressure. Ideal size for the capacitor is about 4.4 times the engine size. Since the engine is 420cc, the capacitor would need to be about 1850cc to work properly.

[@timothymilam732]

Add some small knobs on ends of foot pegs, and should give you a better sense of stability if your not pushing so hard on to keep feet on them. Plus you can shift your weight to inside of turns without adding additional force to outside peg, are at least that's how it appears from my prospective. Keep up the hard work young men, and thanks for the entertainment. Stay safe, and be well.

[@peterhellberg887]

Try an easy setup with water injection like old Saab 99 turbo. Use a sealed can with water, put a hose from the intake to it so it get the turbo pressure. Than put a hose from the bottom of the can and put it in front of the turbo inlet with a nozzle in the end of the hose. When the boost will raise, the pressure gets in to the can and press water thru the nozzle. The water helps cooling the engine but it also raise the volume of the exhaust gases wich give you higher boost. You need to laborate some with the nozzle but i think you figure it out ;) Thanks for your great videos guys!

[@josephalnemri4577]

so i been wanting to get into riding mini bikes so I looked for used ones and i am wondering you guys can make a video on what to look for in a used mini bike if you could do that , that would help with buying a mini bike!! THANKS LOVE THE CONTENT YOU GUYS PUT!!!!!

[@skidsftw8074]

Now like john said towards the end of the video about if a naturally aspirated flywheel cam and head see if that makes a bigger difference what about doing both

[@WayneMiller1110]

You're not making that much boost because you only have one cylinder powering the turbo so it's only making boost when the exhaust valve is open if you had two cylinders then it would make constant boost because you would always have an exhaust valve open hence the turbo would spool constantly instead of only half of the time

[@Ekim87]

Not sure if they have low compression heads and pistons for them but doing that and upping the boost maybe.... be neat to hear a small bit of Wastegate action or blow off valve

[@freddyrosario23]

If you use a bigger tube segment on the charge pipe, will build much more boost. Is like a boost chamber.

[@JackHawkinswrites]

I've got a Gold Wing 1100 Honda and I can't wait to see what you're going to build with the BMW. Definitely looking for inspiration, I'm going to build a dirt road cruiser. Can't wait to see what you guys decide to buid.

[@WBatte1]

Atmospheric pressure at sea level is 14.7 PSIG. A boost level of one atmosphere (14.7 psig ) in theory will double engine power. Boost of 5 psig , roughly 1/3 atmosphere should increase power output by 33.3%. 5 psig is a fairly conservative boost number .

[@blacklightning3200]

That truck teases me anytime I see it. I wish you did videos on it John. Maybe one day?

[@kevinfilanowicz605]

You need to add an expansion chamber to the charge pipe on the turbo since there's only one cylinder and not multiple. A 2 stroke exhaust might work good for it

[@TURBOMOOSE]

since the turbo has a wastegate on it. i would block off the diverter valve/bov itll help build the boost quicker and only "con" is youll hear some awesome compressor surge sounds which is kinda the point of a drift build if you ask me

[@isaiahcondreay]

Boosted is faster, but still all about the airflow! With a little rework and a nicely matched volume for that turbo that thing would be MEAN!

[@calvinwright1816]

Man thats awesome!!!! but it needs a C.V.T! and a juggernat pully to keep the motor in the boost!!!!!

[@lucapistellato3498]

Any supercharger builds? It would be nice to see more boost on the channel 🔥😊

[@jlucasound]

I think this may have been the first project I saw you guys work on. Man, how you have evolved!! Make a rear engine rail. Please? :-) Build it from the ground up and paint it just like the original. Just think how cool the two will look together at the shows.

[@y0sh763]

These types of videos always make me want to build a go kart