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[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@jimmyholliman3026]

Hey Adam what is your favorite handgun round to shot.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

@@jimmyholliman3026 9mm bcuz it is cheap.

[@jimmyholliman3026]

@@WHOTEEWHO I was a 45acp and 40 but now I have to say my favorite round is my Rock Island 10mm. By for that is my favorite

[@brannonpardue1358]

WHO_TEE_WHO Nice! I’ve got a pile of bullets I’ve caught over the years in gel and water, super fun! Got some 300 blk Barnes 110 grain that expanded just like your 3 petal rounds you caught

[@raafeekhan1078]

That expansion round was stunningly beautiful. Good Jewelery Peice

[@johncross323]

Comment of the year at 9 minute mark, “ If that don’t get you excited, then you probably don’t need to watch gun videos anymore” LMAO!!! Love it

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍😁

[@GabrielGarcia-300]

it would be nice to see the gel after each single round to get a better idea i think

[@cameronkrause4712]

exactly, this is far from scientific- more like anecdotal.

[@357bullfrog9]

That's what I think too. That way you could see EXCATLY what's going on

[@tylerford7117]

This video didn't explain anything

[@jalopywrench]

I was going to say the same thing.

[@sweet65mustang]

I love shooting my 458 socom. So much energy. I have a metal plate on the hill side on the other side of the creek, 70 yards away. My favorite is hitting that with the 500 grain sub Sonics suppressed. The ding is so loud.

[@jenky1044]

Good video. It's too bad we couldn't have seen the results of each shot. That's what clear gel is for. (to see the wound cavity, bullet path, etc...). If you wanna trap and collect mushroomed bullets, there are ways to do that and it only cost a few cents. Thank you for sharing this with us.

[@ryanpetrovic3097]

My thoughts exactly

[@davidjensen2411]

Those Tri-petal Projectiles are beautiful! 👌

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Absolutely!

[@jjohnston94]

@@WHOTEEWHO Looks like it's the one shown at 4:42.

[@marvinrayweast]

Yes, they are, would be nice to know what they are and where to buy them for reloading.

[@josephsmith390]

It would have been nice to see the gel after each round, to see the would d channels for ourselves

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Would have been a 45 min video no one would watch

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Gel is so foggy you wouldnt see anything anyways. This gel costs $150 each to replace. I have about 3 hours a week to get 7 videos filmed. No time to take time and dance around 🤪🤪🤪. If the gel were new and clear, then yes maybe

[@WHOTEEWHO]

It is 100% obvious which one petaled out. The only one that is Inc machined down the side to open up that way

[@justinlienhoop4478]

Been using 450 bushmaster for deer hunting here in Indiana for about 6 years now and haven't been disappointed one bit. Especially for the $ difference in a box of ammo.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Absolutely. I love 450 bushmaster

[@fathertimencUSA]

Much cheaper to reload.

[@timsim1940]

Words cannot express how much I love these videos and what you do. I always look forward to watching your videos!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks so much! Really appreciate you watching!

[@WillDunivan]

I just started watching your videos and they are "wicked" entertaining man. You do a good job talking about the rounds and it's cool seeing how excited you are about sharing. Loved the "if that doesn't interest you then you probably don't need to watch gun videos." Haha!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey Will! Really appreciate you watching! I try to have a new vid out just about every day

[@ravissary79]

I love my 50 Beowulf, but it has 1/2 the effective range of either of those. SO much drop right after 100 yards.

[@norrisdillahuntjr4570]

What grain ammo are you using, try the 300 grain stuff, I own and shoot 4 big bore calibers and really there isn't enough difference in them to truly justify purchasing them

[@ravissary79]

@@norrisdillahuntjr4570 I mostly run the 300-350 grain stuff, but I'm saving my 400 hawks and 375 brass frag rounds for a rainy day. I try not to touch my 240 gr copper frag rounds because I bought em up before they stopped making them. They're fast but very unaerodynamic so they don't stay fast long. I used to shoot the ARX inceptors. BLAZING fast, but expensive.

[@BonesTheCat]

My favourite ever is the 450BM in Ruger Scout. Love it to bits. SO much fun.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Love 450bm!

[@PatRMG]

Black Butterfly is my favorite big bore ammo supplier. Slamming stuff!

[@papajon6715]

Another great video Adam, which specific bullet created the cloverleafs? I am assuming one was the 450 and the other a 458. Thank you so very much...

[@jamiesloan5902]

That Black Butterfly ammo is VERY impressive, to say the least. They did their homework on that stuff. I love a bullet that expands to a very big size, but doesn't fragment. Perfection!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I love blackbutterfly!

[@sweet65mustang]

I call them D.I.R.T. calibers. Drop It Right There.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yes! Exactly!

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

We always called them dirt nap cartridges lol. They take a dirt nap immediately when hit by one lol

[@sweet65mustang]

Good shooting! Thanks for showing those hitting the gel. That really shows how hard they hit.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Michael!

[@gascheck8151]

I'm a firm believer in the big bores. On a hog hunt my chum used a custom.50 Alaskan 450grain cast . I used my Model 70 Safari 250grain Hornady Monoflex .Needless to say it way game over.

[@shanevonharten3100]

" Violent Wound Channel " Love the big bore vids Adam, you and Paul are smashing out the goods.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Shane!

[@chrissewell1608]

I know it was starting to snow on you guys that day, and y'all were just getting it done ASAP, because of the cold! It would be interesting to see the results after each shot, so you could show what each bullet looks like (before and after). Either way, all those bullets look like they would drop big game in its tracks! Thanks for the video!

[@christiancaballero4143]

The expansion on them bullets are phenomenal Mann!! I started watching ur vids 3 weeks ago and it actually got me into rifles and now I own a 30 -06 and it’s awesome I appreciate the education and demonstration you do for us!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome Christian! Really appreciate you watching!

[@jamiesloan5902]

Christian Caballero I started watching WhoTee almost from the beginning. You're right. He makes it look fun, and he's a great guy. Congrats on joining the rifle community. Buy yourself a shot timer, and start running some pistol drills. You'll thank me later. It's addictive!!!! I know that sounded a little off subject, but I've been outside all day running drills. It takes shooting to another level.

[@christiancaballero4143]

Jamie Sloan I sure will mann

[@christiancaballero4143]

WHO_TEE_WHO yes sir and I’ll surely tell everyone I know about your channel !!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

@@christiancaballero4143 appreciate yal bigtime

[@jimjakosh2506]

I like your comment on the statistics " you can find out more if you want to NERD out on it" !!!...Cheers, Jim

[@WHOTEEWHO]

ha! thanks for watching Jim!

[@meanmrwolf8250]

Awesome video, glad I found this channel! Keep it up!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@tduncan9938]

Very nice information video!!! Thanks....question ...for next year I’m going to deer hunt with my 450 bushmaster also... which one of those rounds do you prefer??

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Those 3 bladed ones are pretty wicked

[@kentuckywindage222]

Given ballistic gel the ole smackdown! Excellent video! Keep'em coming!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Big smacks!

[@fivespeed3026]

I understand that looking at the gel after each shot would make the video really long, but it would be nice if we could see the gel before you switched calibers. Great video anyway.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@raleighthomas3079]

WHO_TEE_WHO same thing here. It’s useless if you can’t tell which round is which. And each round needs to hit a fresh gel block, instead of one already ripped to shreds. I don’t mean to sound like a jerk, but shooting gel blocks needs to be done right if you really want to see what the individual rounds are doing. It’s a lot more work, but maybe separating the demos into separate calibers per video would make it more manageable. Love your videos, just trying to be helpful.

[@Ruteger100]

4 years ago and I still like watching this video. Thanks

[@HeavyMetalGuns]

Great expansion on those!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Love em!!!

[@jjohnston94]

3:01 If the camera will do what??

[@ihatenuggets]

Yo heard em

[@AlittleSmokey]

Awesome stuff!!! Appreciate y’all.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@tymcclurg7235]

I love my 450B just like yours! It absolutely is my favorite rifle and it shoots federal 300gr bullets awesome!! I didn’t get a chance to get a deer this year with it, but there is always next year!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good luck next year. I have taken one deer with mine

[@samhollan4570]

Rick Sanchez C137 yes bc we want to use a under powered round for deer so we can wound it and it run off when we are guaranteed a 1 shot kill and a drop right there.......i use a 375h&h for deer 🦌 I love it no tracking guaranteed!!

[@tymcclurg7235]

Rick Sanchez C137 the state I live in requires slug guns or straight walled cartridges for deer hunting, so if you could contact the DNR and get them to change that it would be much appreciated! Until then I am going to use the biggest baddest round I can find!

[@Bob5mith]

HSM has 458 SOCOM Bear Loads now. I have a few boxes on the way. Advertised as 350 gr at 1700 fps, but I haven't shot any yet.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Very cool

[@georgegeeseman6652]

Thanks for all of your videos. Very informative and entertaining

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@lloydweaver4489]

When they hit the gel it sounds like a Mike Tyson body shot.👊💪

[@WHOTEEWHO]

💪💪

[@Myles-yj2hf]

How can you say no to the 458 SOCOM?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😁😁😁

[@Hightideoutdoors]

Single shot prices 😆

[@ewetho]

Simple... 460 S&W Magnum....

[@Myles-yj2hf]

@@ewetho Honestly I have never heard of that caliber... I'll have to check it out!

[@alextownsend3264]

By purchasing a 450

[@Hightideoutdoors]

Yes I absolutely love my Ar 450 by Nick at GLFA MI. It's a brut of a rifle but I need to order some butterfly. Have you tried Federal Fusion Soft Points. Like too see you do a review with those. Great Video

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Nope never tried the federal

[@adamburdine5120]

I've said it before and I will say it again. WTH bro you deserve way more subs. This is by far one of my favorite gun video Chanel's next to Edwin Sarkissian. Keep up the good work Adam. From Adam.

[@FFFOutdoor]

Cool video, amazing calibers that will get the job done

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Fff!

[@Predalien195]

I think my preference would come down to what rifle I'd rather have... If I was going to go with an AR, the .458 would likely be the choice. If it's a bolt action, the .450 Bushmaster. Though you can get AR's in .450 Bushmaster too. I will say this though.. I can easily source .450 Bushmaster ammo locally at most all big box stores and small time shops here. .458 SOCOM however I can only find online or at one or two specialty shops in the area that mostly deal in high end tactical weaponry and the cost difference compared to .450 Bushmaster is something like $3-4 more a box. I do feel the .458 SOCOM offers a much wider variety of bullet types one can use and take advantage of compared to .450 Bushmaster for a reloader, but if you dont plan to do that then I dont see it as being a big deal. Both are fantastic rounds and I've been eyeing a Ruger Gunsite Scout in .450 Bushmaster... that walnut stock just looks great to me. Just wish Ruger would make the American Ranch in a wood stock for .450 Bushmaster or even better make it compatible with AR magazines.

[@jesusisalive3227]

I don't know, I can shoot anything the 45acp can and anything the 458 can in my 450B. I have a sizing die to size 458 bullets down. I can shoot anything from 90gr to 400gr bullets.

[@Predalien195]

@@jesusisalive3227 450BM isnt meant to use .458 diameter bullets and I'm sure performance can be impacted as a result of which. That being said, I'm talking factory offerings vs what one can reload generally speaking here.

[@jesusisalive3227]

@@Predalien195 Did you not read what I put? I have a die that sizes 458 to 452 you also must not have searched many factory 450B loads, there are hundreds of offerings out.

[@Predalien195]

@@jesusisalive3227 I read what you put and I admit I did misread it. And while there are hundreds of loads for .450 BM, not many major companies actually load for it. About 4-5 brands. The rest are specialty places like Underwood, Buffalo Bore, and etc. Doesnt mean that you cant find the ammo online as you can find anything there but locally you're not likely to walk into your LGS and find a wide variety of .450 BM loads. Maybe a brand or two tops. Though where you live may also effect this like in Michigan or Ohio. However, you are even less likely to find .458 SOCOM. Which was my point ultimately about the two. They have plenty of merits, when you look at ballistics the .458 SOCOM is the superior round but from a legal perspective for say hunting... the .450 BM wins hands down. I still say it would come down to what platform I planned to use and the application.

[@pensnut08]

I'd love to get a 450, but I already have a dump truck in 35 Remington and if I need to really BOOM the 300 Win Mag.. Buuuutttt I may get one. How about some varmit calibers? I'm currently shopping for one. Leaning towatds a 22-250 or maybe a 243 (which I WILL not use for deer).

[@ammohead73]

I went with the 458 due to bullet weight250gr up to subsonic 500 and 600 grain. Planning on getting the Banish 46 suppressor as well....gonna take me a little time tho LOL

[@tuckert7883]

Great video..iam looking at that 450 for my new deer rifle, time to retire the old 30-30

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

I just bought my first 450 bushmaster a week ago. Henry single shot. It's so very smooth.

[@MattP-BandB]

That Black Butterfly ammo is absolutely devastating!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yes it is!

[@Bob5mith]

It's reasonably priced too.

[@MattP-BandB]

@@Bob5mith I would never have guessed that. I just assumed it was an ultra-premium brand of ammo.

[@Bob5mith]

@@MattP-BandB It's not exactly cheap, either. They have a wide range of prices for 458 SOCOM, from "Berry plated plinkers" that are about $1.50 a round, to 3$ a round for 400 gr "TURBO SAW" but these are actually not bad for these kinds of rounds. They're not run at max pressures and velocities like Buffalo Bore and the like, either.

[@MattP-BandB]

@@Bob5mith Cool. Thanks for the info brother.

[@michaelegert1284]

Im always impressed by this solid copper expanders. Its almost a pice of art.

[@MutarFuqueer]

Would be cool to see how these two stack up against the S&W .460 too

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup

[@jeffscuderi8662]

460 much faster

[@jeffscuderi8662]

@Bill Madd 460 rifles are made levers single shots shoot 2800fps with 200gr bullets

[@MutarFuqueer]

I was more curious about the performance of the round versus the type of gun it was fired from. One could make the argument that it will perform differently when fired from a rifle versus a pistol, and that is true to a point, but I would actually like to see the destructive power of one round versus the other. S&W makes a 14" revolver that shoots the .460 round that I would say would be a pretty close analogue of a true rifle barrel. There have been many videos made about shooting a .357 or 9mm from a pistol/revolver platform versus a rifle based platform, and while there is typically a greater speed advantage with a longer barrel, penetration appears to be negligible....although, it would make for an interesting "How many paper plates" segment :-)

[@bigben9379]

@@MutarFuqueer 200 grain slug in big bores have very low sectional density, so the bullet would have to very well constructed at 2800 fps .

[@AtlantaPrin]

Can these be shot out of the same upper or is there a compatible upper that both of these can be shot out of?

[@greezythumb]

Just finished building a .458 a few months ago. Living in the city and have nowhere to shoot it. Sucks. Dudes living in rural/country areas have all the damn fun.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😆😆😆

[@williesumlin7892]

My favorite is the Remington 783 450 bushmaster my 2 fill in are 4570 marlin and 50 Beowulf lol...……………………………………………..Nice vid bro

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Very nice

[@pupfriend]

The comparison we really want is 458 SOCOM and 22lr!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😁😁😁

[@Kraenesk]

22lr vs 25acp would be more fun...

[@kaypea7905]

Excellent content 👌🏽👍🏽 living vicariously from sask Canada. The BEST deer hunting area. Example, THE HANSEN BUCK!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Wish I could come hunt with you!

[@BlazingGunner]

I made up a Ar pistol in 450 bushmaster with a 9.5 inch barrel and put a linear compensator on it. When I take it to the range any body who shoots it only shoots it one time I love this ar its a tack driver at 100 yards well if you use a sledge hammer to nail tacks.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome

[@alcantrell5340]

Another great video, I love my ruger ranch 450 bushmaster. thanks my friend❤️👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Al!

[@dardanbacelli8889]

Hello Who Tee. Cool video mate of the big girls. Can you review the .460s&w? Cheers mate

[@jeremiahjohnson4896]

9:30 ironically he’s talking about a dump truck round while a dump truck is driving by.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🤣🤣🤣👍👍

[@dylandennis6809]

Have you tried the Remington premier accutip in your 450 bushmaster if so did you like them? If not i would like to see a video. Till then awesome videos...WHO TEE WHO

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Never tried those. Thanks for watching Dylan!

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

Apart from range and accuracy, within 100 yds, how would you compare the 450 to a 12 or 20 gauge foster slug? Impact/ lethal wise?

[@gordo66061]

The 450 bullet is almost the same as a 20ga sabot slug

[@zachrodriguez8157]

No business walking around with all that cake.

[@davidabernathy4553]

Now that was a interesting video and I think either one of those calibers would be awesome Kick-Ass rounds for taking 🦌 deer or whatever. Very impressive video

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Dropes em quick!

[@davidteague5461]

Great video!!! Those rounds looked awesome. Sure r heavy hitters.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks David!

[@andrewengle5959]

I love hearing the 450 round pound the target down range myself.

[@TheJohndeere212]

Great video. Those guns are powerful.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Bigtime power!

[@ericschenck9954]

DANG!!!! BIG NASTY ROUNDS BROTHER!! LOVED IT!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Eric!

[@Myles-yj2hf]

how can you say no to the 458 SOCOM?

[@michaelmoses4019]

I know the socom is a necked round, but it looks like you're shooting both out of the same rifle, is that possible or am I mistaken and these are different guns?

[@DannieDecentVlogs]

Very cool , those rounds are no joke

[@WHOTEEWHO]

💪💪

[@RugerM77]

What group sizes do you get at 100yrds (for the 450 Bushmaster)? What do you consider practical accuracy for the 450BM?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Oh the 450 can just about put em in the same hole at 100yds

[@chrissewell1608]

That Black Butterfly bullet is freakin wicked. That is what I expect a bullet should do, upon impact. Its amazing! I want that in a 9mm.

[@minnesotanice369]

what's a really good reliable 458 socom AR set-up damnit Bobby

[@neilshark6361]

Great vid, like like more info on bullet material and bullet speeds please. Cheers dudes!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Have other videos with more details and on chronograph

[@neilshark6361]

@@WHOTEEWHO firstly, thank you for replying, damn decent of you. I really enjoy your videos. I've seen quite a few others. I really only meant, when you shoot different cartridges to just state really quickly, for example, .458, bullet grain weight, travels approx 2500 FPS, fmj or cast lead. That sort of thing, just helps me. We don't get much of that in England with our shit gun laws. Certainly no criticism, you do great work!! Keep it up. Cheers buddy.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

@@neilshark6361 cheers! Thanks for watching!!!

[@rmendiola6860]

Hi @WHO_TEE_WHO i was wandering if you can possibly make a video using the .450 bushmaster but using an ar15 magazine, ive been hearing and seeing some videos of other poeple using it but it'd be really nice if you could make a video of it from your ruger American ranch .450 bushmaster, i only ask because you actually got me hooked on getting one ive already ordered and couldn't be more excited. Thanks again for all your videos i love them there also very informative.

[@scottf.3808]

That round is so nasty with those pedals as what expansion....Good stuff....

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Super nasty

[@markaliberti8313]

Best part about this video is how he didn’t let any of that pesky science or actual information get in the way

[@hhds4716]

Thanks to you I'm gonna get a 450 bushmaster upper. With taxes coming I have done alot of research in the last weeks to find my next new toy lol. it has the most bang for buck. 50 Beowulf and 458 are to much $ even reloading.

[@hhds4716]

@Andrew Jackson look up bear creek arsenal

[@jesusisalive3227]

@Andrew Jackson The 450 was built for the ar15. The bolt guns came later.

[@treeclimberdave]

Thank you for doing more .458 socom!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@randlerichardson5826]

Wow it expanded for sure

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Bigtime

[@randlerichardson5826]

Great video brother and Paul Bond. Be safe out there you two and GOD BLESS youns and your families Amen 🙏. See you soon

[@BornGaming32]

What is the distance your are shooting? I'd like to see 450BM expansion results of the Maker Rex & Tomahawk plus the Barnes at 100 yards. This would better replicate hunting conditions.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

10 yards or so. No much difference at 100 yes. Have also fone this video before at 60 yards or so already

[@miketaylor7198]

Love .458 and .458 hammer is nuts just rolls the deer many bullet choices and same lower as 556

[@unbalancedredneck5778]

458 is one interesting rds. Wonder how it compares to the 45/70? Fun video

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Have a few vids comparing with 4570

[@preacherbiggin]

Who TEE who! Another great vid! Keep er up boss! #lovinit!

[@dentonsbackyardshow1013]

I do belive instead of hunting .these rounds would be good for lets say a check-point round like miltary checkpoints .hard heavy hitters

[@wemcal]

Great video, gel aerobics!!! way better than the slugs I Shoot!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Big rounds!

[@wolfmanrebel874]

Did you do this today? Yesterday 75 degree in g-burg,nasty storms and today nice and about 68 here all day and you have snow 2.5 hours away?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Nope filmed last weekend. Was 30 degrees out

[@wolfmanrebel874]

@@WHOTEEWHO Ah..ok,i honestly wouldn't have been that shocked if it was today this weather pattern has me wondering wtf to do about crops this year,I'm afraid if I normal schedule il be worst off than last year...which sucked

[@mikhailsiderman2191]

Who Tee Who you always rule! Like all your videos

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@alandassanders7217]

Where do you find magazine's and what magazine's do you use

[@adonikam1]

Awesome video. All I know about those calibers is your video. But it be great if you could put them up to my favorite the 444 Marlin. It's my dump truck! If I ever hit the lottery your gonna be happy. Lol. God bless.

[@tominva4121]

Damn - I'm so confused. I want a 200-300 yard deer, pig, or bear cartridge to fire strictly out of an AR platform rifle. Trying to decide between 450 BM, 458 SOCOM, 45 Raptor, and 458 HAM'R and there is someone claiming each is the best??? Reliability (Ive heard its much less in straight walled cartridges) counts as well as cost of ammo and rifle. Strauight walled cartridges seem to have a legal advantage for hunting in some states though (not mine).

[@WHOTEEWHO]

450bm simply because of ammo cost

[@itsjustjoe3790]

Great vid. Can you do one with 59 Beowulf vs 45-70?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Dont have a 50 Beowulf :(

[@justplinkin4809]

WHO_TEE_WHO sounds like an excuse to go get one to me!

[@jtbell1215]

Hello sir.. you say 450 bushmaster is your favorite deer rifle.. can you tell why.. and why that over a 45-70

[@montesmith2313]

What scope would you recommend for a socom

[@458hamr4]

Try to get a hold of 458.Hamr it’s more powerful

[@Physics072]

450 All the way and if you have a bolt gun you can shoot 240gr bear creaks at 2500-2600 fps. Very accurate and one shot one kill round on Deer. Not lost one yet with the 450.

[@bluemari937]

How many of each can fit in 5.56 magazine? Thanks

[@letsgobrandon5858]

What's your thoughts on a 450BM AR rifle for hunting?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

If it slings boolits.....I love it

[@gwarrichmond6232]

What is the actual name of the ones that mushroomed into 3 pedals? Another great video bud 👍🏼

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Tomahawk I believe.

[@gwarrichmond6232]

@@WHOTEEWHO Definitely a nasty round !!! Gonna have to look into those. Thanks

[@allenmoccasin2029]

Great video of the two calibers. Please compare .444 vs 450

[@WHOTEEWHO]

That gets requested a lot. Dont have a 444 :(

[@allenmoccasin2029]

@@WHOTEEWHO Thanks anyway. Great videos.

[@jeffscuderi8662]

444 faster

[@raafeekhan1078]

Can those gels be melted and recast? Would be cool to see what kind of damage each round does individually in the gel instead of all being shot together then analyzed

[@WHOTEEWHO]

point was just to catch the bullets. showing each track would make an hour long video :)

[@raafeekhan1078]

@@WHOTEEWHO thats true, ide be one of those people that watched the whole thing lol

[@ethanamldon5657]

If you put cooking oil on your blade before cutting the gel it goes through a lot easier

[@jeremyjones2191]

Black butterfly rounds are probably the best expanding rounds I've seen

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Absolutely

[@norrisdillahuntjr4570]

There expensive as hell thou

[@jeremyjones2191]

@@norrisdillahuntjr4570 😆 every round is expensive right now if you can even find them!!

[@Lukey-Dukey-AUS]

Their some nice calibers.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I love em!