5 BOSS TIPS THAT MAKE M+ DUNGEONS EASY!!!

[@Nickperso23]

- Necrotic wake 3rd boss, abomination aura does 90% of dmg intake. - City of Thread 3rd boss, tank smash + all that absorb is also a number issue - Grim batol last boss shadow gale with 958522 tentacles is a nightmare - Izo is also a damage number problem Not even without mentionning dumb mobs like Twilight lavabender in Grim batol

[@Terrabreak133]

For machinists we never had problem with the first box, it was the second box that was deadly because vents would be activated at the same time the mech was doing his mechanic with the box. What we ended up doing was moving to the middle after speaker pushed the box and we all saved blinks and roar to find the save vent and move the second before the mech puts in the box into the middle.

[@serge2cool]

Which is what makes pugging this a bloody nightmare. They shouldn't stack or speed up mechanics as fast as this.

[@Dras7]

That overlap is so dumb, you must move instantly or you are cut out of the safe spot because of the box followed by the cardinal explosion.

[@yarnf]

Ya overlap is very annoying, as tank even if I pull boss right into the middle lazy rdps usually keep sitting on the previous vent then end up dying. They should rework that a bit imo. It's very rng too.

[@Melodeath00]

​@@serge2cool It seems more like a bug than an intended tricky overlap. The box and the vents sometimes spawn at the exact same time, making it impossible to survive unless you have an immunity or extremely strong defensive that allows you to either eat the box hit or the vents while moving to the correct place. Sometimes the box even spawn BEFORE the vents. You can have everybody stacked in the middle, on high alert with your fingers on your movement speed boost keybinds, and still just die with no real way to avoid it. Ranking Stonevault at the same difficulty level as SoB, and easier than NW just seems bizarre until this bug gets fixed.

[@Tettles]

Lmk if you guys have a video you want me to make for this week. Looking for some good video ideas!

[@KingPuresol]

Can you do a quick once over for trash pulls to do for each dungeon? I'm still wondering what to do for good count

[@marcsino5489]

The Video is good an you Explosion it well, it would be really nice tho, IF you would edit pictures of the symbol and Tool tip text of the spells and abilties you are talking about into the picture at the Moment you Talk about it. So every Body can also visualize the Icon and remember it, wegen dbm/bigwigs Shows them

[@andrewhalkett5796]

Updated boomkin video

[@Starburstjuicy]

What trash not to pull in certain dungeons like the “NEVER PULL!” Trash. How some % in certain dungeons like NW are definitely overtuned in trash % cause outside the 3 gate keepers and one trash pack before the bone monstrosity you need everything else. As well as the bug with how the dungeon buffs do work for instance I could not do the vine door in Mist or second lateen after second boss in there even though I have 100 in Herbalism and just over 25 in shadowlands herbalism but still can’t do ethier even though they have it listed as such. Same for Stone vault where we had multiple dwarves and one being a blacksmith but was not able to use the buff in there while doing the M+ versions.

[@kayru117]

Grim batol last boss seemed like a huge mess and I was wondering if there was some position tips for tanking it.

[@bojnebojnebojne]

Thanks for the showcase alone, some of us haven't even done these bosses where things actually hurt, so even just seeing them and having the mechanics explained like this is tremendously helpful. Tip for Machinists, there is actually a safe spot even on the active sides of the exhaust vents. It is very slim, but it's doable, it's just right to the side of where the Outer Fire/ Flame visual from the exhaust vent shoots up.(@13:16 of this video, example would be to the right of your pencil drawing right next to the yellow line.) Just make sure ya stand far enough deep into the little crevice so ya don't get clapped by the box coming in at some point. 1st boss Ara-Kara: To save space, everyone should stack on the Tank as there is no frontal that can hit the party on this boss fight. Stacking on tank makes it easier to move as a group in a coordinated manner, just follow the tank. My group do it this way and we just line the outer edge with the gossamer onslaught web drops, no issues whatsoever with space that way, clean and tidy. :) If ya play with a mixed melee /ranged comp then let the adds come close and use cc while burning down the adds with AoE so you can cleave boss and not loose uptime. They adds will all end up stacked if you move as a unit stacked on tank, then when the adds get close enough but not too close, AoE CC them and burst them. Sounds easier than it might be in a pug i know. But i'm spoiled with a premade XD

[@amethonys2798]

I'm getting tired of gigantic DoTs that also effectively punish you for dispelling them. The last boss of Arakara is a shitshow for melee and dispelling them in a timely manner is GOING to cleave someone with the one shot wave. Any more than like 2 melee on that fight is miserable and Blizzard really didn't think the fight out (idk why the tank gets marked when tanks usually get excluded from these).

[@skrabio]

Izo will be tuned 100%. At a 7, 500k ticking dot into 1.5mil aoe like every 30sec is just insane.

[@Unshou]

Great vid and thanks for the run-throughs. But I'd like to see more bosses please. -I'd argue that Skarmorak is harder than the Master Mechanics. If players kill the shards in quick succession, we blow up. Who gets the orbs (and when)? Should the healer take 1 or 2? - The tuning on the 3rd boss of Necrotic Wake seems out of whack with the other bosses. Plus it seems a bit buggy where the hook sometimes hooks on a puddle on the ground? - Last boss on Grim Batol. Purple tentacles on purple swirlies, having to stack for shadow gale but also spread inside it. - Last boss in Ara Kara.

[@TheAstraios]

This is great, thank you. I had been trying to heal COT 3rd boss and was on struggle street.

[@Luxumbra69]

Wooooo less one shots this season! "Gossamer Onslaught does around 150% of your HP over 4 seconds, while requiring healer movement." Oh cool.

[@anthonysmith9475]

last boss in ara kara? last boss in grim batol? i fucking hate this season

[@reuterss306]

boo-hoo bosses are challenging.

[@damo33rocks]

last boss in ara kara is just make sure u have poison dispells and fight is not hard

[@lemming9693]

​@reuterss306 if that was the only problem It would not be so bad. But the overall feel of this rotation with the change to stops really sucks

[@johnd2946]

@@reuterss306 The bosses are garbage, like you.

[@pyrosupreme4473]

Last boss in grim batol is just getting to the center circle and not getting knocked back into a tentacle

[@jamhatts]

thanks for all the content you make

[@nickv3085]

Necrotic stitch boss is hell. Much harder than the stonevault duo. Well, I guess it’s just harder for the healer, like everything.

[@TH-dg2mm]

As a healer... yeah that boss is crazy.

[@dbmoose]

It really isn't that bad, during the first hook you have BL/Spears/All Defensives and the creation should die before tick damage gets out of hand. Even on a 10 tyrannical it was manageable. You can easily 2 phase it. If you wipe in a high on key on the boss, sure you probably won't time the key, but wiping on any boss in a high key is a pretty good liklihood of not timing the key, but you can easily kill the boss w/o BL or spears by cleaving off the add onto stichflesh and doing 3-4 phases, ensuring that the creation dies quickly and the dot never gets out of hand.

[@NateM13]

3rd boss in necrotic suuuucks.... great vid

[@siyoiii7709]

Is that shit overtuned or something? It feels so much harder than SL. Either that or maybe the gear we have isn't enough? Idk but yeah feels sbit

[@NateM13]

@@siyoiii7709 seems to be pretty broken. But I doubt they fix it

[@Schilani]

@@siyoiii7709 They probably didn't do a real tuning check on that dungeon, after disabling basically all weapons. Because back then you could just throw three spears followed by some hammers into the boss and do some ridiculous damage. Now you just get to 60% damage increase for 20 seconds and kinda hope that it's enough to kill him.

[@Impressionwow]

@@siyoiii7709they added a mechanic that ramps over time, this wasn’t an ability in shadowlands

[@OakenTome]

⁠@@NateM13They'll definitely tune it down.

[@aralee6797]

@tettles, Im sure you have a vid on this somewhere, but can you share what you use for frames and boss timer? I like how you have it set up. And thanks for the great breakdowns. Also - last boss of Siege kicks my healer ass. Some groups are fine, but sometimes I can't get to the last plank fast enough and get bounced off the planks into the water again and again and then everyone dies. :/

[@daledadolphin]

on the machinist boss the 2nd or 3rd box pull by dorito has some HORRIFIC vents timing where brokk does the vents as the box is being pulled so you can’t even pre-move… I don’t know if this is consistent but it happened on many of our pulls and it was absolutely fking horrible, idk if there is a way to avoid this?

[@MatthewHuberty]

On the 2nd Dawnbreaker boss, why is the 4th orb an “overlap” or otherwise scary? I missed it if you made that clear.

[@dominos2for1]

Leaving the new quest pop ups on-screen like that permanently is diabolical 💀

[@lucid9949]

the difficulty of stonevault mechanics is killing them at the same time. if one is alive for .1 seconds after the other one dies, its a group wipe

[@Elliath]

I would love to see the last boss in Ara-kara and third boss in Necrotic Wake. They totally destroy our groups.

[@TheUnaturalSelection]

3rd boss in nw is relatively easy just land the hooks on the main boss and blow your cool downs on him take hooks to the boss while he's off the stage and try to only have one add up at a time.

[@panda8bamboo161]

@@TheUnaturalSelectionprobably because the average dps kinda suck so more than likely two are up for longer than it should.

[@Impressionwow]

@@TheUnaturalSelectionspoken like a true low key player

[@TheUnaturalSelection]

@@Impressionwow this video is about the "how" to deal with a boss. You do it the same way whether its a +2 or a +13. Obviously higher keys will have optimizations but the core strat is the same.

[@jayryan1956]

@@TheUnaturalSelectionyeah just kill the boss and do the mechanics lol spoken like someone who’s never done a key higher than 25

[@vaels5682]

Last boss in mists of tirina scythe is rough. Sometimes pools spawn under the foliage

[@TH-dg2mm]

That's like the easiest boss in the game bro

[@bluemammothwarcraft3431]

Love this thank you!

[@Crisalpha]

I think last boss from Stonevault is much more annoying than the one shown here. Our 70 year old gm could easily understand and move there but couldn't really do it on the last.

[@Essjaybee2934]

ty for the vid!

[@thiagoandrade4174]

Tettles, 2nd boss of dawnbreaker is static now, it stays on that font for the entire dg

[@bluemammothwarcraft3431]

Would love to see more

[@Olejowy89]

The only issue I have with this season bosses is unavoidable party damage. Even tho personally, I do not have issue with this since I play enha shaman and therefore I have zillion dmg reduction cds (and reincarnation in the worst scenario), failing m 7-10 all over again just because the healer or other dps were overwhelmed by dmg taken from things such as NW 3rd boss aoe, SV twin boss, CoT 3rd boss and so on makes me very demotivated and sad because that's not the boss mechainc fail was the reason we did not succeed..

[@serge2cool]

Machinists is honestly needing a bit of reworking

[@ascendi2403]

why the fuck is necrotic wake 3rd boss so overtuned? 1.5 mil healing , have to have lust and spears or your dead anythign above +7 is crazy

[@Frawt]

Because Blizzard is a small indie company of incompetent chimps that do not playtest their small indie game, and cannot read, so they cannot take in beta/PTR feedback. Also, math is hard, I guess.

[@okkipooky8612]

Because they redesigned the dungeon to work without being tied to the kyrian faction so they gave us extra weapons…they also changed/buffed how the shield weapon works….it went from trash to pretty OP….but nobody ever bothers picking it up or doing the coordination required for it….but yes I do agree with you for regular pugs that don’t understand the weapons and also how every other hook should go to the boss stage to instantly grip the boss down…it’s a bit too much dmg.

[@amethonys2798]

​@okkipooky8612 where am I shitting these shields? You have to send at least 1 on Amarth along with probably an orb or two. 3 people need spears going upstairs. We backtracking to the beginning to pick one up?

[@okkipooky8612]

@@amethonys2798 there is a shield right at the door and another around half way through the dg (before the 2nd boss)…2nd boss doesn’t need any weapons at all…just plain kicks/stuns on the mages and aoe everything down…boss dies easy….orbs should be used (if your tank is solid enough) on double/triple packs of trash of the 3rd boss room because if you miss kicks on that trash (collectors) pack it likely results in a wipe depending on key level. In terms of where to use your shields that depends on your tank/healer. Wherever the healer will struggle (likely 3rd boss) use it. And if there is a trash pack that the tank/group struggles then use it. Personally I almost exclusively use items on the 3rd boss/trash room because that’s the point where your key will die since it requires coordination and pugs aren’t the best when put in those scenarios (blacksmith boss in stone vault)…on the flip side…if you wipe after using lust and weapons on the 3rd boss…your screwed as well.

[@georgeb1298]

So what do I do after wasting 20 minutes of my life in necrotic wake only to realise that my healer can't pull off 2m hps on 3rd boss?

[@luuxii]

Necrotic wake 2nd boss without dk is awful

[@Muhhviehstar]

I guess you are having isues with the adds? move to boss to the hunter add, get aggro from the melee add and dds kick the mages.

[@Starburstjuicy]

If you have the tank move the boss to a corner and tank him there the adds won’t be so spread or far from the boss and makes it much easier imo

[@swampbug11]

izzo izawful... only on a 5 800k splice dot every 1.5s right into a 2mil umbral weave... dead. as boomkin I'm in bear form for more of these fights than owlkin form....

[@Salvein]

Dorito lol

[@lucid9949]

also, mr tettles, can you please make a full elaborate video as to why forcing m+ players to raid is horrible for the community and blizzard needs to give high end m+ players the same loot as high end raiders, going into elaborate details? you are our only hope.

[@Phyr123]

Get a good healer, got it. Thanks.

[@johnd2946]

This is the worst season of M+ ever.

[@fastydave]

@@Ratatoeskrrr Nobody with a pulse wanted SoB or Grim Shithol to come back. Doghshit dungeons that should have remained where they died when their expansion ended.

[@Experiment.626]

Yah I have to agree been doing m+ since it started and the dungeons are just horrid. Some I’ve come to enjoy like city of threads and dawn breaker the rest can kick bricks lol 😂

[@Experiment.626]

@@fastydave1,000,000% they were trash then and they are trash now.

[@chandlersun3877]

Grim batol all bosses? XD i did an 8 GB and got destroyed

[@iliketohelp8336]

5 tips 18mins? TF

[@zylle1993]

Are you trolling with 2nd boss of Dawnbreaker?? Its so easy lmao. Fuck?????

[@dwayne8273]

I dropped venom cleansing totem on ara kara last boss, it was beautiful xD. Also, most pf tjis dungeons are a tank skill cap issue.

[@Uncreatedd]

Poison totem is a good utility for that boss that cant even be used if you have more than 2 mele cause then mele will snipe eachother with 1 shot waves. That boss and last boss in grim batol is one of the worst designed bosses ever

[@kj01a]

The hardest boss is making friends 😢

[@TheFreakyFlash]

First!🎉

[@zylle1993]

Literally only the 5th boss you show is hard, this vid makes no sense at all tbh

[@deenman23]

did all these 10 some timed some not,stonevault boss was by ffar the biggest bastard,all the others feel fine for decent players,proly gonna get nerfed cuz baddies that dont even do them cry

[@SweetJP.]

tip 1: do the freaking mechanics

[@kogure7235]

The third boss on stonevault tyrannical absolutely bricked our key, the amount of damage coming in and the ability overlaps are absolutely brutal. I feel like problem is very low difficulty of Heroic and even M0. You never learn mechanics because fights last like 5 seconds, but suddenly the fights last 2-3 minutes while everything instakills you.