5 inch Gauge LNER Class P2 2006 Wolf of Badenoch - Live Steam 2-8-2 Mikado Locomotive

[@ChrizRockster]

Gorgeous piece of engineering. Superb scale to be building in. That green colour just screams golden age of steam in England.

[@iainflett7623]

Scotland I think.....

[@thomashambly3718]

@@iainflett7623 it's lner, it's Scotland and england

[@Crimsonedge1]

@@iainflett7623 As the final member of the original P2 class, she entered traffic on the 5th September 1936 as No. 2006 and gained the name of Wolf of Badenoch and was given the works number 1842 . Like the other engines in the class the name was inspired by Scottish Folklore. The Wolf of Badenoch was the name given to Alexander Stewart the Earl of Buchan (1343-1405) the fourth son of King Robert II of Scotland who had earned the nickname after his ruthless treatment of his enemies and the burning down of Elgin Cathedral in 1390. Like the other engines in the last batch of P2’s the locomotive featured a streamlined front end, Walscherts valve gear and piston valves. Although it had originally been planned to fit the engine with an identical boiler to the other engines the decision was made to fit the engine with a new diagram 108 pattern boiler no. 8934. This boiler featured a larger combustion chamber to help complete total combustion and required the two tube plates to be placed further together. The engines originally ordered boiler was kept as a spare being utilised on No.2002 when the latter’s own boiler was due for repairs. The inclusion of a larger combustion chamber was suggested by OVS Bulleid who calculated that moving the tubeplates 1ft closer together, and correspondingly making the combustion chamber 1ft longer would along with a larger air space in the fire grate incorporated in all the later P2’s and in the rebuilds of No. 2001 and No. 2002, would create total combustion. The enlarged firebox meant that three extra rows of roof stays were fitted along with five inspection doors on each side of the boiler. This boiler later became the prototype for the 118a boiler design which was used on Peppercorns’ A1 class locomotives. From new the engine was allocated to Haymarket depot and seems to have been the only member of the P2 class not to venture south on the East Coast Main Line to King’s Cross during its life as a Mikado. Soon the engine was transferred to Aberdeen where it stayed until October 1942 when it returned to Haymarket. The engine did not have its own regular crews whilst in Aberdeen, instead being used as a general engine in the No. 1 Link who worked the passenger trains and No. 2 link who worked the fast fish and meat trains. No. 2006 was withdrawn for rebuilding as a Pacific on the 28th January 1944 having completed 287,187 miles as a 2-8-2 locomotive. The rebuilt locomotive was released from Doncaster Works on the15th April but did not retain its original boiler which had instead been fitted to the rebuild of No.2002. However this boiler only lasted in service a further 18 months before being condemned. The engine was fitted with boiler No. 8796 which had been fitted to No.2002 and during its life as an A2/2 a received a further three different boilers. After rebuilding the engine emerged in unlined black livery with NE only on the tender carrying the number 2006 on the cabside. Under the renumbering scheme the engine was renumbered 506 on the 30th June 1946 before being repainted into full Apple Green livery at Cowlairs in October 1947. During a light repair at Cowlairs in December 1948 then number was changed to 60506 using small figures closely spaced again on the cabside with ‘LNER’ remaining on the tender side until July 1950 when the engine was repainted in British Railways livery. Originally the engine re-entered traffic nameless, the original nameplates still attached to the now discarded streamlined front ends. however by early June 1944 the nameplates had been rescued, cleaned and replaced on the engine. After rebuilding the engine returned to Haymarket shed where it remained until the 8th August 1949 when it was once again sent to Aberdeen Ferryhill. This lasted a year until the engine was again transferred to Haymarket before the move of the whole class south of the border with the engine becoming allocated to New England shed in November 1949. During a short period in early 1954 Grantham shed borrowed No. 60506 and No. 60504 and used the pair on the 10.00 hours ‘Flying Scotsman’ from King’s Cross. During its life as an A2/2 the engine accumulated 629,013 miles, finally being withdrawn and finally cut up at Doncaster Works on the 4th April 1961.

[@paulcaswell2813]

Designed for the Aberdeen road. Very much Scottish locomotives - only coming south to visit works or very occasional publicity visits to England!

[@WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE]

@@Crimsonedge1 thank you for posting such a comprehensive history of the original engine.

[@984francis]

Not only is this man's workmanship darn near perfect but he chooses unusual prototypes. The P2 looks and runs so well. Ditto his P&O 21C6. I enjoyed seeing the Cartazzi axle box working! Oh, thanks for the excellent notes on these locos.

[@micmacmoc]

984francis the cartazzi is perfect isn’t it?

[@johnclayden1670]

@@micmacmoc Agreed: that was an amazing demonstration.

[@dunxy]

I swear there is just "something" special about British express passenger engines,something that no other loco type seems to have.I cant even say exactly what it is, its a package, the lines,the lovely big spoked drivers,the colour schemes and more that makes them unlike anything else.Im Australian so ive not seen many of them, i did ride behind 4472 when she was out here, but that was a VERY long time ago! Finest engines in the world.I did speak at length with one of the rostered drivers of 4472 when she was here, he was steam era driver who had operated pretty well every class of loco used int he last couple of decades of steam here and he couldn't speak highly enough of 4472.I imagine hes passed now, very glad i got the chance to discuss that with him when i did.We did have something close here, 4 lovely 3 cyl S class pacifics that were used on our premier train, we even had a speed record briefly! Alas none of those locos survived the torch and were all cut up decades before i was born.I hope one day we re-build one,we at least have some tenders and frames for a start! Everyone says its too hard and will never happen, but they said that a big boy would never steam again and yeah.... We do have a couple of full builds going here already so i live in hope that one day i see one of these myself.If i won lotto, id damn well build one!

[@rayarena879]

What a beauty and what power! Can't believe that little engine is so effortlessly pulling all of those people!

[@CalebsRailFilms]

That engine is absolutely gorgeous. Not only is it a P2 but it’s streamlined as well. Magnificent! 😍 Steams very well and the speed is something to be admired. Absolutely perfect and clean craftsmanship by the owner. This is miniature steam engineering at its finest. A very good mate of mine is making a few 5 inch gauge locomotives over here in South Australia. He’s building Australia’s only Berkshire class of locomotive, the long since scrapped South Australian Railways 720 Class 2-8-4s. He’s also building our iconic SAR 520 Class 4-8-4 Northerns of which two are preserved. Class leader no. 520 Sir Malcolm Barclay Harvey is presently being restored to operation at the home base of the SteamRanger Heritage Railway at Mount Barker. For those who don’t know, the Mount Barker to Victor Harbor branch line is one of the longest preserved railways anywhere in the world. At an impressive distance of 50 miles or 80 kilometres. Videos of this branch line can be found on my channel. Thanks for sharing! Cheers Caleb

[@boboldfield8571]

What a beautifull piece of engineering,absolutely magnificentin every way ,thank you for the video

[@ukmodelengineering]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@michaelnaisbitt1639]

Beautiful model and a testament to the builders skill in showing just how powerful a model in this scale can be. Tis a pity that Thompson rebuilt the P 2 s into ungainly Pacifics

[@EdVanMeyer]

Amazing power for the size. Great model, if you can call it a model!

[@Robertmwenda505]

Ed Van Meyer l

[@LoveSongAlex]

Ed Van Meyer aaasaaaaaaaa

[@mrhearse777]

Beautiful workmanship. I bet the owner / builder feels justly very proud.

[@julianbuckmaster3725]

That is absolutely stunning, awesome build

[@podski4]

What a stunning engine. A credit to the builder

[@danielphipps3655]

We certainly have the best model engineers in the world

[@tristynjordan7605]

Not going to lie this would mine this was like a p2 mixed with a a4

[@cadeliamv.urbano9282]

The last p2 built was a hybrid, no.2006 was a mixture of a p2 and an a4. Sir nigel gresley wanted a locomotive that is strong but also fast, he decided to put the a4's shell into a p2. Btw the p2 don't normally look like that, they look more handsome and elegant

[@locowerke]

Stunning model,and runs as good as it looks!

[@eddywilliams6212]

really well made and it will be great when the full size one is finished and up and running too

[@jojofixer]

Absolutely beautiful.

[@ukmodelengineering]

It really is!

[@jamesharris9828]

Absolutely stunning

[@adelestevens]

Superb looking locomotive! Hopefully in the next few years available in 1:1 scale too!

[@phil4607]

fantastic engine

[@Pushkaraj-zl8fh]

Very nice, Beautiful Train.

[@ukmodelengineering]

It sure is!

[@williamou417]

The 2-8-2 locomotives are called the Mikado. The first Mikado type locomotive was built by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in the US for the Nippon Railways of Japan. Mikado in English means the emperor of Japan. The first Mikado in Japan is the JGR Class 9700. 9700 is a good engine, but sadly this engine was scrapped! Information: locomotive.wikia.com/wiki/JGR_Class_9700 vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/locomotive/images/8/8f/JGR_9700.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180713133509

[@ronnierreynolds4218]

See you up at "The Eddie" Remember you telling me P2 was on its way !!!! Best regards Ronnie R !!!

[@GrrMeister]

Thanks for all the info, rebuilt 1943 as A2 Pacific (4-6-2) no 60506 - I have it is 1943 but perhaps you are correct. This was almost the most powerful class of Locomotive on the LNER producing 40,320 lb 'Tractive Effort' only exceeded by 4-6-4 1 off no W1 class rebuild in 1937 no 60700 with 41,435 lb Can't understand why there is not a 'great big grin' on drivers face, Would be on mine !

[@markturner4219]

LNER P1/1 with booster 47,000, P1/2 42,500, LNER U1 72,940, Thompson A2/3 - 40430 and just squeezing in Peppercorn A2 also at 40,430. 2005 Thane of Fife rebuild Jan 1943, rest May to December 1944, but if you take the withdrawal from traffic for rebuild, rather than rebuild completion the dates become 1942 - 43 respectively, so both can be right :-)

[@tomtalk24]

You don't have a grin because its not a toy.

[@stephendartnall8928]

SUPERB MACHINE

[@Paulywarp]

Beautiful.

[@ukmodelengineering]

Very!

[@bertiewooster3326]

Jeepers I gotta get me one of these!!

[@penkagenova7073]

What. Nice. A4. Pacific HOLD ON ITS A. P2 MIKADO

[@Embracing01]

Looks like a cross between an A4 Pacific and the Flying Scotsman.

[@ThatOneGuyWhoCausesMayhem]

These things are preposterously expensive but there worth every penny, cent, nickel or whatever you call them

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

Looks more like an unfinished A4,quite unique tbh

[@johnpenny5638]

Magnificent!

[@malcolmbrown3532]

Seeing these 5" gauge models. I often wonder what the "scale" equivalent weight of the passenger would be. No doubt it would be way more than the actual weight the full sized version would haul......

[@nokithecat]

For such a small train it sure hauls ass ! ! ! Looks expensive too (O.o)

[@Crimsonedge1]

Expensive is not really the word. It's custom. Can't really put a price on the work of the engineer that fabricated every part to scale. They do have prices put on them of course as they are bought, sold and traded within engineering societies but for this one, you'd wouldn't be far wrong asking for £20,000. Even the small 0-6-0 tanks can go for £5000-£8000. Up the scale from 5" to 7.5" and you can whack another £10,000 on top. There are ones out there that go for the price of a small house. You've got to be into the lifestyle with both feet to own one of these though. Ideally with a van so you can travel round the country visiting the layouts of the various model engineering societies up and down the country. Especially with an engine like the one shown here. No doubt gets pride of place wherever it goes.

[@sawajiri100]

Thats way prove to say how so powerfull steam engine. I love steam engine👍

[@arijitroy4195]

Very nice

[@StaxRail]

Just saying, are you aware that your video is being used by the Doncaster P2 Locomotive Trust on their website without any credit to you? Either which way, I knew about your channel way before, love the content!

[@Shustrik1]

Стукач.

[@justincowgill8875]

Does anyone know where I can buy a 2-foot gauge Locomotive? Also this 5 inch gauge loco is awesome.

[@JLBflix]

How do you get drawings for a P2 if you wanted to build one in live steam? I can't find anything on them.

[@ukmodelengineering]

@JLBflix, Blackgates Engineering do the drawings for 'Cock O' The North' by Michael Breeze - www.blackgates.co.uk/5__gauge_locos.html

[@Tuckaway]

Nice Loco

[@ВладимирЕрмаков-ч8р]

Хотелось бы узнать в каком городе такой парк располагается.?.

[@BenTheBlocksworldEngine]

This looks like the Mallard!

[@BlockedUser420]

why does it look like a A1 with an A4 boiler

[@micmacmoc]

That’s the best.

[@Peppercorn60163Tornado]

Why does it look like an a4 Pacific?

[@owenmiles5185]

When Thompson took over from sir Nigel Gresley he re built this loco class to look more like the a4’s

[@johnd8892]

The LNER found the streamlined image of the A4s very popular with the travelling public and that design was also useful in clearing smoke and steam away from the drivers view. Even though they were not run at A4 speeds on the curving Scottish lines they ran on they looked very fast even standing still.

[@cosmicshadow8466]

that looks like an a4 p2 mix

[@DeafIaint]

Definitely as the remaining 4 P2s were built, & the first 2 were subsequently converted to look like this.

[@cosmicshadow8466]

+Paul C oh thx for the reply

[@ChudeALDI]

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[@bluecomet390]

Fabulous engine and great video, but this is not an A4 Pacific locomotive? Was there a prototype 2-8-2 locomotive with the streamlined Gresley styling? Who ran these engines, pre Nationalization or British Rail?

[@ukmodelengineering]

Hi +bluecomet390, thank you for your interest, the full size engine is a Gresley design and was run under LNER pre grouping. You will find full information on this page - www.lner.info/locos/P/p2.php

[@bluecomet390]

+LMS4767 Many thanks. I did not know of this class of locomotive before. Now I may have to find one of the Ace Trains models of the P2!

[@984francis]

+bluecomet390 Gorgeous isn't it? The Cock O' The North Gresley 2-8-2 is also fine, taking after the Hush Hush styling (or the other way around, I can't remember).

[@grahamrhodes9105]

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[@ivoneiorlando9223]

the p2 2003-2006 were buit as this and 2001 & 2002 adopted this design after their first rebuild

[@FeraligatrMaster]

A 2-8-2 A4 that's strange.

[@paulcaswell2813]

P2 - not A4.

[@gearedloop3195]

Whta knida feevr drema ma i lokoing at

[@micmacmoc]

P2 beauty.

[@yungmouse3850]

Lol for a second i thought it was an a4 for some reason

[@ramswaroopmangal6428]

That Is Spencer Very powerful Top speed

[@paullubliner6221]

Very nice toy train.

[@bennickss]

Toy? TOY? Are you having a bloody laugh?

[@paullubliner6221]

@@bennickss You can't tell?

[@wazda6488]

if you mix mallard and scotsman you wil brobebly get this

[@Angelica_Steam8750]

Has it got real brakes or like most are they just fake!

[@ukmodelengineering]

The brakes are real and fully working.

[@BornotB-xi6kg]

The mallard version of the Flying Scotsman

[@marknewell7355]

Roan Heckstall-Smith they have all pulled the flying Scotsmen before as the Scotsmen is the train not the locomotive itself

[@paulcaswell2813]

The locomotive was named after the train.

[@Concionator]

:o)

[@pauladeluca292]

nooooooo!

[@jameshardy4354]

So sad Thompson butchered the class he ruined them 😡😡

[@paperplatemask8608]

Anyone else think people riding them is stupid? I love the train, its really awesome. I'd much rather see it as an RC though.

[@timraykirby]

That takes away half the fun, though. To ride is to actually drive... to fire and operate the locomotive .

[@KR15MES]

riding them is better and who cares what you look like, its for your personal hobby and enjoyment

[@ivoneiorlando9223]

no only your stupid self i think if they want is their decision NOT yours

[@984francis]

First of all, do you want to RC the train or the loco? You say the the train. The train is what the loco is pulling, not the loco. So you like to RC a set of passenger gondolas? First of all, a train with no motive power won't move and second, you'd look silly with an RC controller in your hands wondering why the train won't move!

[@themidlandcompoundarchive9430]

984francis that's the best comment I've seen all day!