5 NHL Teams Who Got BETTER After Losing a Star

[@RobTalksHockey]

Has your team after lost a star player? If so, what happened?

[@guillaumebrisebois4477]

We lost Hall and the next year we made the playoffs, I was mad at the trade at first but now I realize we would have no cap space and we got a decent top 4 defensemen in Larsson

[@ls93780]

Thank you Matt Duchene.

[@ISB97]

Bobrovsky but now we have Hart so it’s all fine

[@ISB97]

Gotta be sharp82 you guys should of got at least 2 first round picks

[@Zombieguy1987]

Hurricanes lost 3 star players, Lindholm, Hanifin and Skinner in two trades, and managed to make the playoffs and make it the Conference Finals while Skinner went on a Sabres team that finished near the bottom of the standings and the Flames would lose in 5 to the Avs in the first round

[@TheHenryDuong]

Imagine being Matt Duchene, Colorado will be dominant for years to come .

[@des5052]

Edmonton and Colorado are going to own the west

[@TheHenryDuong]

@@des5052 Colorado for sure , Edmonton i feel will be decent with slumps here n there . they have potential similar to the leafs

[@des5052]

Henry Duong idk if they get a good goalie they could be a dynasty

[@tgs2141]

Not to mention that Ottawa got some good stuff from traded him to Columbus and now they have a bright future while Marty D is stuck on Nashville who’s been falling off lately

[@jakeheerwagen8007]

I’m a die hard Avs fan. So we all just say screw you Duchene. Who just has to go team to team to try and make the playoffs. And we got the best player in the trade with Mackinnon going god mode

[@matthewvandenbrand3283]

Barry Trotz was the reason the Islanders improved. A good system will do that for ya.

[@Roller11111]

Team save percentage also went from like .900 to nearly .930. Trotz put in a good system, but they also gotten much better goaltending.

[@danielhaskett942]

Came here to say this. Had Tavares stayed the Ilanders could’ve made the conference finals or finals last year

[@joeshittheragman6252]

Its fucking hilarious how salty Islanders fans are against Tavares when its at management where they should directing their hate

[@capdown6828]

The Capitals not offering him a new deal is why we lost in 7 games 2OT to the Canes.

[@Nicknod16]

@@joeshittheragman6252 plenty of hate for both 🐍

[@kagomefan101]

Matt Duchene- “I want to play playoff hockey” Joins the worst team in the NHL. Avs make the playoffs and dominate the league. LOL

[@bodhithomas5684]

Yeah, the aves are going to dominate the west. I'm expecting a finals between them and the lightning

[@dominicags5605]

John Tavares went to the mapleleafs and the islanders started to get back into the playoffs

[@evanspeice1009]

Do the best 5th round pick or later from every nhl team

[@lgrw9883]

evan s red wings have many great draft picks 5th rd or later

[@geminitaurus8693]

Pavel bure - Vancouver

[@sootcoot8712]

@@lgrw9883 Pavel Datsyuk was a 6th rounder even. 171th overall.

[@95VideoMan]

"savage cameraman" lol. Great video! Hossa story with the Pens/Wings is too bad to be true. Also there's something so cool about seeing old fuzzy footage of NHL players pre-NHL.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@Sharks4Cup408]

2003 Sharks: Trade away Owen Nolan then lose Selanne in free agency 2004 Sharks: First ever Conference Finals

[@Dude-nz6kh]

haha I love the isles in the thumbnail

[@k-rod25]

Well it is true

[@acerpro101]

Shea weber is shea weber, obviously the habs improve, but we werent exactly aware of the extent of locker room shenanigans. Thats why i was in the Nashville wins camp, but at the time i was already in the fire bergevin camp aswell.

[@Rometiklan]

The Canucks have only had a handful of true stars over their 50 years. Luongo, Bure and Mogilny come to mind. Luongo signed one of those long term, front loaded contracts that has left the Canucks holding a recapture penalty after Luongo retired as a Panther....so yeah, thanks Mike Gillis. Great vid! Thanks for posting!

[@igobrimode]

I think the Canes are perfect for this type of list, they lost Skinner and E. Staal and then make it to the Conference Final

[@edwardriot2372]

Staal got you guys a cup , skinner didn't...

[@crynzd]

@@edwardriot2372 Still skinner was a star for the canes

[@rowandas952]

I was here since you had 200 subs unbelievale, good stuff

[@johnsinnott5419]

I love how you put the ad at the end of the video. Much respect for that!!

[@iliporsberg6157]

In before my Duchene gets roasted

[@burntpato9760]

Now what about teams that got worse after acquiring a star player

[@EpicKamloopsQc]

Weber is not only about the points, he such a great guy and captain and does even more off the ice than on the ice, especially with the rookies. Like he played NHL 20 with Suzuki when he joined the team this year lol

[@mattblom3990]

Hey Rob, my dad was Mat Barzal's dad's defense partner in beer league for years up until last year when my dad needed a knee replacement. Mat Barzal signed a Team Canada junior card for me though. Great kid, needs to shoot more :)

[@RobTalksHockey]

That’s awesome!

[@ebroydell]

Anyone who knows hockey never said trading Subban was a mistake and he is not a big time player, he is a team killer, end of story.

[@LeanMrfuzzles]

Although they were aging, TBL losing players like Lecavalier and St.Louis in 2013 and 14 helped build them into the dominant team we see today. Marty St.Louis had an Art Ross winning season in 2013 and was leading the team in points when he was traded for Ryan Callahan. Marty actually ended up leading the team in points anyway despite being traded away at the deadline.

[@5holehockey216]

Last night i had a dream I was about to step on the ice and I woke up 😔

[@danibir7466]

I feel you I haven’t skated in 3 months

[@dankiusmemeiusmaximustheth1648]

Dude I got an underground hookup to skate this weekend.. first time in months

[@5holehockey216]

Dankius Memeius Maximus the Third dude that Amazing!

[@RobTalksHockey]

I’ve had that dream 😔

[@5holehockey216]

Rob Talks Hockey it sucks 😫

[@xaviersantana2367]

I mean, the Bruins traded Thorton and then proceeded to win the Stanley Cup a few years later, which I'd say didn't end too badly. Especially because the Sharks haven't won a Cup yet

[@dylanchan6930]

John Tavares staying may have meant Garth Snow doesn't get fired. So I wonder if Islanders fans would rather have had Tavares stay and Snow stay, or Tavares leave and Snow leave. I guess the answer looks obvious now but I am interested to what they would have said 2 years ago

[@s.p.8508]

Hey RTH, where is that “players drafted before Barzy” vid I’ve been waiting for🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Jelly_Joe]

Killin it brotha ! Keep it coming !!

[@iankennedy9771]

The Canes trading Jeff Skinner for NOTHING and somehow becoming better still blows my mind as a Canes fan

[@HentragunGD]

we lost bo horvat and look at the canucks now

[@jean-ha4482]

Seriously for subban we have to understand that when price was injured, neither Weber or Pk was able to help the team make the playoffs. When they finish bottom at the bottom with subban, price was injured. Then again maybe the locker room atmosphere got better but 2010 and 2014, when the habs made the eastern finals, pk and price were the core of the team. Weber in his career never reached further the 2nd round. Thus not so sure about that one. However I will admit subban needs to bounce back this year in order to remain an elite dman

[@Cup_in_6]

Subbans days of being “elite” are longgggg gone

[@willp.6093]

I know this trade didn’t make the bruins better but tyler seguin apparently had an issue with nathan Horton and got traded I’d love to see a video on this!

[@joshb6470]

the islanders were in shock and forgot what they were, out performed but went back to normal eventually. it's like hitting a jello mold, it will jiggle around and be exciting and new for a while but eventually it settles back down and is what it is.

[@maxtheriver8969]

As a Montreal fan I have no idea what alzner signed with us. At the time we were a rebuilding team as we drafted 3 overall that season

[@ardadeniz3324]

What about the Devils after trading Hall this year

[@justindecker9282]

Yes sir

[@camdenmills8911]

That Avs had Jerome Iginla in 2016-17t too!

[@capdown6828]

Which is worse: Karl Alzner leaving the Caps for the Habs due to the Caps playoff fails, and the Caps win the cup the next season while Alzner is stuck on a rough team? -or Marian Hossa leaving the Pens, who lost the Cup Finals to the Wings, for the Cup Champ Red Wings in hope of performing a repeat with them, only to lose in the Finals to the exact team he left, the Pens?

[@BaljIsBoss13]

to be fair, they had barzal who is definitely a superstar. you could also make the argument that the islanders may be a shocking playoff team who is incapable of actually making a cup run (similiar to minnesota in the last decade) whereas toronto underacheives because of bad goaltending but still has the potential to make a playoff run

[@Clynage]

bad goaltending? lol dude what team are you watching

[@alainsoucysergerie9879]

Lots of people in the Q thought I was crazy at the moment of the trade when I said the about 3 year difference didn't mean a thing since Weber's type of play would age way smoother...hate to say I told you so!

[@chefvez3291]

Subban had multiples fights in Montreal against Pleckanec and other players , and then Mtl traded him at Nashville , and what the predators do? They trade him to NJ , so i guess he has an attitude problem

[@fatdonkey2667]

8:13 it was 2019 they got Bryam (I know it’s a typo)

[@ATLAoftheHill]

One of my favorite parts of the CBJ beating Toronto this year was watching Tavares's face lol. Then we ran out of gas in the next round and his face became my face.

[@tr1ggered985]

Next could be teams that got star players but then sucked

[@WolfGamer-dh8mx]

tr1ggered Duchene could make that list too lmao

[@brentod1679]

Yeahh

[@michellegao8372]

@@WolfGamer-dh8mx sens always sucked tho

[@dylanc1896]

Islanders

[@ProdParkerJazz]

Lightning Swapping Drouin for Sergy Has Been Life Changing

[@STEPHENisSTEPHEN]

i remember watching alzner play for the hitman he was a beast

[@alekthevampire]

After the Oilers traded Gretzky in his prime they would surprisingly win the cup shortly thereafter whereas the Great One would never win another cup

[@Indium111]

Canucks lost Pavel Bure in a trade to the Florida Panthers. Loss of the most exciting player to ever wear a Canucks jersey eventually led Vancouver's management to sign a free agent in the hopes of restoring some star-power to the franchise. That player was Mark Messier. Dark times ensued...Dark times.

[@derrymcguinness783]

I’m a sens fan 10:10 well funny u say that...

[@s.p.8508]

We lost 🐍, and we made the playoffs. The thing is, we would have been much better if he stayed. Yes, we dont need him to be the team we are, but that’s not really saying much because our offense is downright bad. If he was still on the team we would actually have a goal scorer. But still........ 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍

[@Nicknod16]

S.P. good riddance ✌🐍

[@UserName-ts3sp]

rick nash and sergei bobrovsky (thus far)... the nash trade helped us make the playoffs (along with a new coach and new management) within 2 years. they just barely missed in 12-13 too. bobrovsky (thus far) hasn’t been missed.

[@MNSOWinner1]

Barzal is a star player. He was a huge impact for the islanders and so was Barry trotz

[@capdown6828]

Sweet Colorado jersey, hoping to get it when it's available

[@nhlhockeynewsreports5360]

Great job!!! Love it

[@realgauthier4111]

Just ask any old school Oilers fan, Gretzky , Messier, Fuhr and the list goes on and on.

[@korbynshaggy666]

The isles didnt do well cause tavares left they are doing well because they one of the best coaches like honestly Trotz needs more credit

[@RobTalksHockey]

Definitely!

[@JoshEFrith]

Avs fan... Matt Duchene again thank you Ottawa and Nashville for getting the shithead off our hands

[@RobTalksHockey]

Hahaha

[@brentod1679]

Either do star players go to teams and makes the team worse, or do star players that got traded and made the original team worse

[@ZackieR]

Flames. Lost Iginla, Kipp and 1 year after became a good team

[@andrewburney8075]

Quick note: Karlsson and Stone never wanted to leave Ottawa, they weren't being offered deals close to market value. Karlsson stated publicly that he was never presented a contract offer and that he hadn't spoken to Ottawa ownership in almost a year. Basically that whole saga comes back to Melnyk (Also ik the trades largely worked out well for Ottawa I'm just talking about the circumstances leading up to them)

[@tgs2141]

People keep saying that the players want to leave which isn’t true, a lot of players who left Ottawa wanted to stay on the team because they loved the fan base and playing in the city

[@swy334]

Karlsson was offered over 10m a year and declined

[@theuncommonman707]

Just wanted to throw a huge shoutout to Duchene! Not because he's a good player, but because his selfishness helped the Avs turn into a powerhouse

[@StarForgedTCG]

karlsson did not want to leave ottawa, the sens didnt offer him an extension

[@RobTalksHockey]

There are many rumours he was offered an extension, however it may not have been the number he wanted

[@bangyahead1]

Its debatable as to whether the leafs got better stayed the same or got worse by signing Tavares. Im glad the Stars didnt sign him. They were one of the three teams he was talking to.

[@beavis8118]

What division was the wings in at the 2008 year

[@timomajere]

NGL, Hossa trying to jump ships just to get himself a cup instead of wanting to help whatever team he was on was significant to how his ego was at the time. I call it karma myself, not tragic. TRAGIC is when Iginla did that with Boston and Pittsburgh. THAT, was tragic for sure.

[@UrFNStepfather]

The Quebec nordiques and the eric lindros drama that trade set up the avs for their first cup

[@tompatompsson]

0:47 was this coincidence or do you have some inside information?

[@wolfyuhc2717]

Honestly after Hall left NJ, the team started playing way better...

[@NYI8911]

Lets go Islanders!

[@kyleiscool4576]

It’s obvious The Luongo trade by the Canucks. BUT, Markstrom is really good now.

[@peytonpatenaude9587]

I’m a bruins fan, so I know a lot about losing star players

[@derektoy5830]

Omg Hosea one was crazy

[@Swiftyhockey11]

On the knights Marc Andre Fleury

[@CPAngling]

What Happened to Beau Bennett? he looked promising for the Pens

[@FaNGPaCT]

He was such an injury prone im not sure if hes retired yet

[@totallypucked28]

Isles didn’t improve because of “team morale.” They improved because they brought in an elite coach that shaved 100 goals off the team GA like he was tying his shoes.

[@cdorito8288]

There was obvious tension and horrible locker room chemistry if you really look at the habs before the subban trade

[@wolfdreams1545]

Lost 3 star players: Artemiy Panarin, Sergei Bobrovsky and Matt Duchene did not want to sign with the team. However, Columbus pulled through with a rising superstar goaltender in Elvis Merzļikins. We just need firepower to fix that offence now.

[@iliporsberg6157]

Elvis Merzļikins Fan yeah if cbj could get one more elite forward for the first line they will be a real contender just like that year but longer

[@kildawg]

Might already have that forward in Liam Foudy. Plus everyone should be healthy except Big Josh Anderson, which should bode well.

[@_dom45_31]

tavares was a bot and still is and we had mat barzal who is a star so once tavares left the energy was a lot more in my opinion atleast

[@importednascar]

Colorado: *got 48 points in 2016-2017* 2019-2020 Red Wings: Am I a joke to you?

[@codywoodell1591]

Carolina got rid of Skinner and immediately made the playoffs and went deep in them

[@padubois6309]

Karl Alzner, a star? I doubt it. Did the capitals won because he went away? I don’t think so! He’s in the AHL now

[@charliebowen5071]

Can someone explain American sports bizarre numbering system please…. Like players are number 99 etc… does that mean there are 99 active squad members?? I am guessing not so just do they just pick their own random number?? Always wondered

[@RHaines76Gaming]

Poor Duchene, went from bad to worst. Careful what you ask for...

[@leafsfanforever2896]

Anyone experienced this while playing NHL 20? Any ways to boost locker room chemistry in-game?

[@tombrennan7073]

The isles would be thriving right now if Tavares had stayed. Toronto is in cap hell. We'll see who does better at the end of the deal

[@Jeromesdpi]

Montreal would have 10m under the cap next year if it wasn't for that alzner deal

[@ATLAoftheHill]

CBJ lost Panarin, Bobrovsky, and Duchene and still made the playoffs by beating a 33 million dollar line and the other Leafs. They were in a playoff spot before the pause as well.

[@HerbertHoover38]

The Calgary Flames traded Brett Hull the same year the won the Stanley Cup. But that was before he was a star

[@ProductionsJoe]

Nope. They traded him in 88 and won the cup in 89.

[@diekatzefliegt]

my team the devils sucked before we got rid of hall. We still suck there was no ripple effect

[@geminitaurus8693]

If you look at the trade tree, Nashville won the PK trade.

[@andrewcantellow3368]

This video could have also been called: Players with the worst karma ever

[@Hdjcjrjcjjrjck]

Guess who my team is. We don’t like the devils. About three years ago we lost our entire team. In about four years we’re going to be insane.

[@cdorito8288]

Well John tavares was a horrible captain never stood up for teammates and never played physical

[@jamiecummins3210]

You should look at teams that got worse after getting a star player, *cough* *cough* Duchene to every new team he has joined

[@jamiecummins3210]

Shoot, just got to the Duchene part now, my bad

[@jamiecummins3210]

For example Karlsson to the sharks

[@kildawg]

Except Columbus. They made it past the 1st round for the first time with Duchene. Bobrovsky and Panarin helped as well as the current core in place.

[@tuglife4354]

Hossa is the suite case GOAT

[@JJ-bi5qx]

Hossa betraying the pens is the biggest rick roll ever

[@patrickturner2417]

I wanted Garth to draft hedman instead of tavares anyway.....so tavares slithering off the island didnt really mean much to me. His lying to the islanders hurt, but not that much.

[@shayagansbourg6284]

The reason the habs were good the next season was because the year before price was injured

[@chiefwiyas7763]

Feel bad for Hossa I mean his skin condition did not help him perform at the most elite professional hockey association like the NHL :( but hes still a beauty

[@geraldclydeabella3350]

Skin Cancer?

[@derektoy5830]

Is it me or Duchene was on the cover before?

[@2and10gaming5]

It was like a different type, like nhl 13 you can look it up

[@RobTalksHockey]

I test different thumbnails haha

[@Nicknod16]

I'm just getting over LaFontaine leaving Islanders..that hurt much more than John Robot 🤖 Tavares. #thereal16

[@nikitakoochierov739]

The Sharks became crap when Pavelski left

[@epo6831]

I'm not sure if Jeff Skinner is considered a star, but... Canes are better without him

[@ethanhofmann2199]

Nashville made the finals when subban got there