5 Ways Patriarchy Affects Men and their Relationships

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Dr. Chris Hoff

Dr. Chris Hoff

Күн бұрын

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@lauraxie9209
@lauraxie9209 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the video before commenting. This video actually analyzed patriarchy comprehensively along with its effects on both men and women. Explaining how patriarchy is toxic for BOTH men and women. Not only women's disadvantageous position but ALSO negative effects patriarchy poses on men, e.g., social expectations for men to act tough and reject communication when they in fact need to express their feelings as well. it's not men vs women, its us vs patriarchy.
@michaelsayen4360
@michaelsayen4360 3 жыл бұрын
Men were made by God to lead, women to follow.
@BrokenDiety1
@BrokenDiety1 3 жыл бұрын
Patriarchy doesn't exist. Male enslavement coupled with hyperagency is the reality. Men shoulder the burden and the blame of society. Feminism is a fraud and a hate movement.
@ljmackenzie9484
@ljmackenzie9484 2 жыл бұрын
​@@michaelsayen4360 And white people were made to enslave Black people, it says so in the bible. How many slaves do you have? The more slaves, the more man you are. Don't disappoint.
@debayanpal3181
@debayanpal3181 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsayen4360 Any scientific evidence you have behind that??...Jacinda Ardern, Angela Merkel, Sana Marin so many great women leaders...
@debayanpal3181
@debayanpal3181 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsayen4360 And if women were made to follow and men were to lead then why all social animals are lead by females lions, wolves, elephants, hyenas?...
@ghoibsg1356
@ghoibsg1356 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of commenters didn't even watch the first minute. He explicitly states the Patriarchy isn't about being a man and isn't claiming all men have it easy. Facts don't care about your feelings crowd are incredibly thin skinned.
@souljastation5463
@souljastation5463 3 жыл бұрын
Although, there's still a lot of blaming going on: "men hurt women" as if the opposite doesn't happen, "men have to take responsibility", this kind of rethoric will only attract masochists. I shouldn't say this but I'm from a country where gender roles are not so codified, and after seeing this I'm jealous of the male privilege Americans have, I wish I too had some of those priviledges. I know, grass is always greener on the other side...
@ghoibsg1356
@ghoibsg1356 3 жыл бұрын
@@souljastation5463 What country are you from?
@souljastation5463
@souljastation5463 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghoibsg1356 I'm from Italy, there's less divide between men and women here, men are not taught to repress their emotions. I was joking when I said that I'm jealous (still, I would like to know what is like to live with a priviledge, but I know that ultimately it's not a good thing).
@amandabisby3546
@amandabisby3546 3 жыл бұрын
These comments demeaning women while insulting the guy are proving his point lol
@DZ302-Z28
@DZ302-Z28 Жыл бұрын
No it's just proving that society infantilizes women and treats them like helpless victims because as much as they proclaim how strong and independent they are they are very much dependent even co-dependent on men and their resources and inventions to survive. That is the truth sounds like you are too insecure and full of ego 2 accept the truth. This guy is just another betta simping to the matriarchy because he can't get laid. This is exactly the type of guy that is an incel and lies to women trying to champion their rights thinking that will be his path to getting a woman. It's actually very manipulative what he's doing here and he claims he's a therapist. This is why nobody trusts therapist as far as I can throw them
@kingcatmemes
@kingcatmemes Жыл бұрын
@@DZ302-Z28 perfectly explained
@gosiaborzycka5641
@gosiaborzycka5641 Жыл бұрын
​@@DZ302-Z28 Incentions are mostly done by men exactly because patriarchy exists. When mamy of these were created women couldn't even go to school. And we still have inventors like Maria Składowska-Curie. Spacer programs are written by women right now and you pretending they need you to exist is coping
@Blopusanian
@Blopusanian 11 ай бұрын
⁠@kamiliachadliYou literally don’t know shit and probably hate men. All your comments indicate that you are just misandrist and think all men are guilty. Your opinion is irrelevant.
@Alphacentauri819
@Alphacentauri819 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@DZ302-Z28just regurgitating propaganda from an echo chamber, doesn’t make you wise. It means you have been conditioned. Neuroplasticity is repetition+emotion, so anything you do, think, with that combo, is programmed into your subconscious. It has nothing to do with whether it is reality or not. Don’t believe everything you think. Learn to use introspection, metacognition, space, zooming out, to consider. Those who have a strong fear program (and therefore usually larger amygdala…which, if an fMRI scan was done on you, it would likely reveal this)…state comments like yours. You sound threatened, fearful, and in a cognitive distortion (which I actually saw proof of a few in your comments). “Othering” women as a means to assert your imagined superiority, is simplistic, base, and unevolved. Basically, it’s the emotional/psychological capabilities of a toddler, or young teen. Those age groups function on mostly emotional reasoning. Many people get arrested development in these ages, because they don’t learn to grow beyond. Your whole comment screams of a narcissistic wound, deep insecurity, and an inability to consider, digest, all the complexities of life and individuals. I imagine the confirmation biases at play, keep you blind to all the contributions of women to science, medicine, etc, and those who are self sufficient (as self sufficient as many men)… it seems the extraordinary complexity of all the variables and multitudes of combinations is overwhelming to you. So to resolve the cognitive dissonance you’ve decided to make its simple and certain…even if it’s way off the realm of reality. To categorize any group of people, who numbers in the billions, is blind at best. Many men are also very helpless…many men have also depended greatly on women for many things. It is a dynamic, interdependent ecosystem we live in, and to try to make it less than is you being an ostrich, head firmly planted in the sand. How’s that working out for you?
@SixtiesStick
@SixtiesStick Жыл бұрын
"Men's reluctance to open themselves fully to vulnerability or alternative masculinities, is based far more on fear of being vulnerable to other men, or being seen as insufficiently manly, than on worries on how they may be viewed by women." Horseshit, at least in my experience. It's actually the opposite. Opening myself up, and bleeding my heart out to women, especially in a romantic context, made them less intrested and more apathetic towards me. On the other hand, I've had profound bonding experiences with other men, sharing our problems and thoughts.
@simonroll7736
@simonroll7736 Ай бұрын
Same. But somehow those people double down on the gaslighting and are then baffled that the victims of their gaslighting aren't willing to support them.
@GoJojo-lv6zi
@GoJojo-lv6zi Жыл бұрын
Thank you. It’s not women who don’t receive men’s vulnerability well (misogynistic men just use that excuse to further avoid accountability for their own lack of emotional intelligence and expression), it’s other men. Heterosexual women know this from our shared experiences as our significant others’ therapists and shoulders to cry on because they refuse to go to one and their closest friends won’t be one to them. Men oppress each other with patriarchy but constantly blame women for their struggles. A great example of how women and men differ in oppressing each other through gender roles is how accepting women are of lesbian and butch women. We see, understand, and are in relationship with countless women who differ from us in sexuality and gender expression - yet we still consider them women. A butch lesbian is still a woman even if she is dates women and is entirely masculine. Her expression of her womanhood as masculine doesn’t threaten our our feminine or heterosexual identities. Men can’t say the same. It’s so obvious to us that men gatekeep manhood for other men. If a man expresses himself in a feminine way, he is no longer considered a man - because that threatens other men’s perception of themselves (which is incredibly immature and utterly ridiculous). Men hold each other back. The majority of male struggles are a direct result of what other men choose to believe, say, and do. Women do nothing but try to survive and thrive in the convoluted patriarchal structures men support, reinforce, and crumble under. Thank you again for this video.
@karenridgeway7556
@karenridgeway7556 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@GoJojo-lv6zi
@GoJojo-lv6zi Жыл бұрын
@@karenridgeway7556 Thank you!
@candorsspot2775
@candorsspot2775 Жыл бұрын
Gay men are men who behave like women. Who denies or rejects that idea? And gay men rather hang out with women. Why be a bigot and force these men to hang out with other men?
@PoussinNoNeko
@PoussinNoNeko Жыл бұрын
I agree with the main idea about masculinity, but I don't agree with the cause. If we always blame the wrong culprit, we will for sure alienate the ones who we think we are helping. The way men interact with each other has little to do with patriarchy or society at large, but mostly with biology and life in a community. If we look at our cousins, the chimps, we can witness this kind of behaviour too. Men are keeping each other in check because they have to stay strong so they can protect their community. They also need to compete with each other to get women's attention, to build strength, and to show they can be leaders. But we also know that real leaders are alpha males who have compassion and have the support of others. So indeed, patriarchy exists naturally, but it is not as toxic as we may think. As evolved human beings who can have comfort and technology, and we don't need to struggle to survive, now, we can start changing society to become even more civilized. However, if we fail to recognize the root causes for every behaviour, we will never know how to change it without enforcing counter-nature laws and rules.
@johnjames5665
@johnjames5665 11 ай бұрын
Great video!
@YahLotus
@YahLotus 3 жыл бұрын
The particular thing about this patriarchal society is that men actual believe it is the way things have always been and swear this is the only way life works. The world has not always been under the rule of men. Check out the book: 'when God was a woman' by Merlin Stone.
@jasperhernandez7880
@jasperhernandez7880 3 жыл бұрын
God was not a women moron stop lying
@YahLotus
@YahLotus 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasperhernandez7880 "Moron"? 😂 Be gone, you small little man. You are uneducated, led astray, and misinformed.
@jasperhernandez7880
@jasperhernandez7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@YahLotus I actually read the book it was talking about a goddess 200, 000 thousand years ago god in in Christianity was made a few thousand years ago.
@motorvehicle1330
@motorvehicle1330 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasperhernandez7880 bro stop spamming this comment section
@jasperhernandez7880
@jasperhernandez7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@motorvehicle1330 ?
@Calcium-mn9eq
@Calcium-mn9eq 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this information. Those who are wise will learn. Men who are f00lish will be bitter and hurl insults at you and women. You've, however, said the truth. And the wise ones appreciate you.
@c.s.stoutph.d.8350
@c.s.stoutph.d.8350 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown! Thanks for sharing.
@deea3586
@deea3586 9 ай бұрын
Masculinity and patriarchy is hurting a lot of men and women. Based on the comments here, I don’t think the men are ready to acknowledge that on a deeper level, the benefits that it provides don’t outweigh all the negative things that come with it. Men and women need to support each other and break free from these limitations that patriarchy has put on us.
@zsedcftglkjh
@zsedcftglkjh 6 ай бұрын
All of human history...or some soyjack's opinion which hinges on men upholding the structure of society by doing masculine shit. Hmmm...tough choice.
@joeydoherty368
@joeydoherty368 5 ай бұрын
​@@zsedcftglkjhAll of human history sucks. I don't agree with the feminists on alot of things, but acting like it exists for no reason is pretty ignorant.
@samspade2657
@samspade2657 5 ай бұрын
Patriarchy is great.
@themysteriousnavi6850
@themysteriousnavi6850 5 ай бұрын
And you sound like a communist!
@MarioMario-vy4bi
@MarioMario-vy4bi 4 ай бұрын
@@themysteriousnavi6850what is the definition of a communist? If you’re a man your expression of ignorance is poisoning the well for all of us.
@alanagarcia9502
@alanagarcia9502 3 жыл бұрын
We all need to unlearn this misogynistic learnt behaviour. Perhaps men are less likely to look inwards and be open to unlearn this behaviour because the patriarchy itself has meant men have not been allowed to think deeply about their emotions. If your face is too pressed up against the bars you may not see you are in a cage. Time for therapy everyone, specially men. Lets do it !
@sz.1up541
@sz.1up541 3 жыл бұрын
Why men especially? What is patriarchy
@jasperhernandez7880
@jasperhernandez7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@sz.1up541 she probably can't Even defined it or if she does give a example the chances of that example having no correlation to patriarchy is 99%.
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
@@sz.1up541 Patriarchy is any culture ruled by men and favoring men in religion, politics, and business, with lots of violent crimes discrimination, and hate speech against women, LGBT people, and minorities.
@calvinmervin
@calvinmervin 8 жыл бұрын
Chris, Thanks for this great summary. I think more men are recognizing that things need to change but are unaware of other ways to perform. Your suggestions here give us a great place to start the conversation and think about ways in which we can step into some alternative ways of being.
@carlmarc3877
@carlmarc3877 7 жыл бұрын
Calvin Black sure do. Extremely detailed and informative video!!
@georgeromo3506
@georgeromo3506 3 жыл бұрын
Of all the short KZbin videos I found about the patriarchy this one is the best. It clearly States what the patriarch is And a few ideas to overcome it or minimize it in society.
@ninamohlala8254
@ninamohlala8254 3 жыл бұрын
Powerful message...thank you for sharing...
@cinjhang
@cinjhang 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so such a great video!!!
@PBrowningHelsel
@PBrowningHelsel 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so powerful. It’s helping me already
@ashstevens3361
@ashstevens3361 4 жыл бұрын
“[...] A society that is male-dominated and male-centered in which both men and women participate. A patriarchal society reserves positions of authority for men and creates differences in power between men and women, some of which can be visible and others invisible. This isn’t to say that all men are or powerful or all women are powerless, but the default is always toward male dominance.”
@user-nu3sd7zb2j
@user-nu3sd7zb2j 4 жыл бұрын
Not in the western world. not in the UK
@soulfulgardener
@soulfulgardener Жыл бұрын
Yep, that describes it to a T
@psid9907
@psid9907 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this!
@javiertorres832
@javiertorres832 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit . Thank you . I've been trying to develop a language around this. I think this vid will be my foundation in waking up to patriarchy.
@aldaoroman
@aldaoroman 5 жыл бұрын
You need to change tampons?.
@javiertorres832
@javiertorres832 5 жыл бұрын
@@aldaoroman I don't. But if my son dates your daughter, and doesn't have this knowledge and becomes somehow like you. She probably won't need one either. Que inseguro eres pendejo.
@nwobringiton1282
@nwobringiton1282 4 жыл бұрын
Javier Torres if your son dates a girl and thinks that listening to this guy is gonna help he’s in for a very rude awakening when his girlfriend doesn’t respect him or feel attraction for him.
@motorvehicle1330
@motorvehicle1330 3 жыл бұрын
@@javiertorres832 i love you comment haha
@motorvehicle1330
@motorvehicle1330 3 жыл бұрын
@@nwobringiton1282 if she didn't respect him or feel attraction for him then she wouldn't be with him
@archiylevent9387
@archiylevent9387 3 жыл бұрын
I agree so much everything u say.. patriarchy is the default programming we are all in .. the patriarchy has generated the mental condition of Narcissism, seriously, this is why the world is so sick
@BL-sd2qw
@BL-sd2qw Жыл бұрын
This man is like "patriarchy harms men" And men in the comment section are like "there is no patriarchy because I'm a man and I'm being harmed" ??????
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 11 ай бұрын
So your argument is "I will take men being harmed by feminist misinformation that the uploader is spreading, and use that as a reason why our misinformation is true". Wow..... You're like one of those socialists standing in a breadline waiting for food under socialism, but still screaming "See? 40 years after the revolution and still capitalism does this to us"
@Blopusanian
@Blopusanian 11 ай бұрын
@kamiliachadliWomen commit more non reciprocal DV then men and also for every 100 husbands who kill their wives 75 wives kill their husbands so you’re just wrong.
@lalanunez
@lalanunez 10 ай бұрын
@@Blopusanian Matty, why you gotta write shit that can be easily disproven with a simple google search? It just makes you look more desperate.
@Blopusanian
@Blopusanian 10 ай бұрын
@@lalanunez I mean I can send you the links to the studies: ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020 It's funny feminist statistics are so warped and biased that half them don't even include male victims, how the fuck would you guys know if men are the only ones harming men.
@Blopusanian
@Blopusanian 10 ай бұрын
@@lalanunez I mean I can link you the studies but ok. Keep coping. There’s a similar one for the US as well: www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/441/FEWO/Brief/BR11575288/br-external/StatisticsCanada-Brief-e.pdf
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 5 жыл бұрын
Came her on the suggestion from Jesse Dollemore. I'm a disabled but strong willed 61 year old, now having to live with my daughter, grandson & unmarried son in law. Since September, we moved from a rental in mine & my daughters name, to a rent to own in his name. He also lost his dad last year. Suddenly, EVERY conflict, from household chores to money, quickly devolves into his angry response of " this is my f**cking house, YOU can get out". Needless to say, this terrifies me. It also ignores 36 years of my daughter & I struggling together for our mutual benefit. All my attempts to bring light to the power dynamic being played out result in anger & denial. I fear that without addressing this, their relationship & our financial security, will continue to devolve. I also don't like the message this embeds in my 13 year old grandson as this guy is the first father figure he's had. I'm trying to create a work around, I realize the vulnerabilities that are showing in the "my way or the highway" mentality. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Great talk & will look for the book you referenced.
@UnityFromDiversity
@UnityFromDiversity 4 жыл бұрын
He who takes responsibility gets authority. Be thankful you are not homeless, shelter is not free! Diversity VS Supremacy? The left believers that there is a role not just for freedom, but also for love, in the institution(s) of government that regulate human affairs, that human life is valuable, that we, as a society, have obligations to our fellow man, that we as a society should take a little from those who have been extraordinarily blessed & give to those who bad fortune has fallen on, to those who are in great need... Men and women are different(Diversity). Women are born with the privilege of sexual capital. An ordinary man will spend their entire lives trying to get this sexual capital that women take for granted, and most will fail. When a man chooses a bad woman to immigrate into his life, he can genuinely say he didn't have any other choice to meet his social, sexual & emotional needs. When a woman chooses a "bad boy" to immigrate into her life, she almost certainly had many better options. Women need to improve their immigration policy! To meet their socio-sexual needs, men have to climb the hierarchy of needs: 1 Safety needs 2 Food and Water needs 3 Shelter needs 4 Socio-sexual needs In (1) safety needs, men die of assault/homicide more than women, have workplace deaths/injuries 10x more than women, and commit suicide 4x more often than women. Women live an average of 6 years longer than men. Men need help! Yet as a society we tax from men to give to women? Because supposedly women have greater "needs" for safety & security...? In (2) food and water needs, women are smaller and need less food to survive, yet women are more likely than men to be overweight. Yet as a society we tax from men to give to women because women "need" more food to fatten them up...? In (3) shelter needs, 71% of the homeless are men, yet 84% of those on housing vouchers are women. Yet as a society we tax from men to give to women because women "need" housing...? In (4) social and sexual needs, a man who has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of products & services to his community by working a $45K/year job for years or even decades will have 1/100th the socio-sexual capital of a 25 lbs overweight women 20 years past peak fertility, who is living at home with her parent(s) with no job, no car, no income, no assets, and $50K of student loan debt. Yet as a society we tax from men to give to women because women "need" more than the socio-sexual capital monopoly they already have...? The wage gap studies feminists often speak of is increasingly disappearing, & the more variables analyzed in the studies the more the gap disappears. Given infinite variables, the gap would likely disappear completely! And it gets worse. Those studies only look at people who are employed. They neglect to notice that men are more likely to be unemployed than women, & when those excluded "zero" outliers are included in wage averages men make less than women. But it gets worse still. As women are physically smaller, they have smaller needs in every category in the hierarchy of needs. Women are safer than men, living longer and being less likely to be assaulted overall. Women are smaller than men so they need smaller food rations, smaller clothing expenses, smaller beds in smaller bedrooms in smaller houses, smaller cars with better gas millage & smaller car insurance bills! The only thing that is really "needed" in society is checks & balances on female greed & abuse of reproductive sexual capital/power. We used to have this in traditional marriage. The patriarchy community is united around the idea that sex should only be within traditional marriage. Thus, if economic support is needed for children or other sexually derived liabilities, a cosigning support group in the family & friends of the bride and groom has already been voluntarily assembled & the innocent need not be taxed. The feminism community is united around having sex outside of marriage with a involuntarily coerced (taxed) support group. Let the patriarchy community pay for its liabilities, & let the feminists pay for theirs! A tyrant has authority without responsibility. A slave has responsibility without authority. Today marriage, as re-defined by the female democratic majority and family court system, makes the man a slave to a tyrant wife, who can divorce him at will, breaking vows, stealing his children, his wealth, and his pride while leaving him with the liabilities of the former union. Most women want to have sex with high status "bad boys" outside of marriage and get innocent men to pay for the consequences(abortions, kids ect.). That's why women, no matter how "meritocratic", should never vote. Meritocracy assumes trust and loyalty, & sadly most women are disloyal. As stated above, most women live longer than most men. Most women vote longer than most men. Most politicians cater to the majority, which is feminine, with female biased policies. This is gynocracy. This is female supremacy. This is cancer, and there is no cure. The strategic political battles were fought and lost more than 100 years ago. Show me a man who takes by force what he wants from a women and I'll show you 100 women who vote to take by force what they want from men. Show me a grave created by patriarchy and I'll show you an entire graveyard created by feminism/communism. "Any society that negates the role of the father in the voluntarily marriage contract from decent civilization building men and replaces it with a involuntary centralized welfare state will not remain civilized for long."
@ylvaolsson2497
@ylvaolsson2497 4 жыл бұрын
This is very common in hetro relationships. Eventually children and partner cant take it anymore. Sadly most men dont like to look at theese problems. Its the way with privelege, if u have it its difficult to see it. And if u loose it it feels as someting beings stolen from u. Being angry and scary is a common manipulation teqnic that men can hide behind beacaus it conforms with the norm of how men behave. and they are celebrated for it, rather then told to calm down. Keep strong, work towwards living in ur own place. good luck..
@ylvaolsson2497
@ylvaolsson2497 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnityFromDiversity Saxual capital is litterely a way of survial for woman. Its leftovers from a civialastion where we had to get married to get a roof over our heads and food in the belly.
@ylvaolsson2497
@ylvaolsson2497 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnityFromDiversity jesus u have to reed about female history and the origin and development of the patrarchy. just read please
@BrokenDiety1
@BrokenDiety1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ylvaolsson2497 Sxual capital is an advantage women have over men. You had to get married to get a roof over your head? Try working the fields or factories for a pittance. That is even IF you can even get work if you're single. Unlike W-men, men can't relationship our way out of homelessness or destitution. Sxual capital is NOT a burden. Quit lying to yourself!
@Briarfly
@Briarfly 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely nailed it
@evywthingseemsdiffagain921
@evywthingseemsdiffagain921 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this work, this is fantastic
@motorvehicle1330
@motorvehicle1330 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Lots of ignorant commenters here. Keep getting the truth out!
@rainypie
@rainypie 4 жыл бұрын
Ah goodness... This comment section-
@metoonunyabidness1391
@metoonunyabidness1391 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard many claims over the years about “patriarchy“ and it always goes something similar to what this man said. The problem is, it’s always asserted as true, and never shown with evidence. Why should I consider this at all?
@ylvaolsson2497
@ylvaolsson2497 4 жыл бұрын
the evidense lies in all places in our lives. That men remarry after divorce fast, while woman live as single as a choise. Men are happiest when married, woman are happiest unmarried without children. Men after years of marrige tends to have lost their ability to run their lives, bcus the heavy workload of making a home, feeding family, keeping social connections, making plans, bying clothes, fixing clothes, remebering apointments, the emotional labor in love relationships, all this i often left for the woman, so when she leavs ( bcus the formationd extreme unpaid work and non-listnening husband) the man is left in a chaos, and soon he hava a new wife, while the woman is more happy alone. Happiest in relationships are lesbiands and hetrosexuals that speak often and openly about equalety. there is proof in how we live, in how woman carry the relationship without reward or even recognition.
@metoonunyabidness1391
@metoonunyabidness1391 4 жыл бұрын
Ylva Olsson You are replying to a stay at home father and home maker All that you listed are decisions made by individual families. The decisions made on average are not systemic in a free society I freely chose this life
@metoonunyabidness1391
@metoonunyabidness1391 4 жыл бұрын
Ylva Olsson May I ask where you got this data? Is it possible that the things you listed are merely anecdotal?
@gamerwoman6991
@gamerwoman6991 3 жыл бұрын
The evidence shows up in the suicide rate for men (especially after the death of a partner) and the tendency to abuse rates. Men AND women are victims of men's violence.
@metoonunyabidness1391
@metoonunyabidness1391 3 жыл бұрын
@@gamerwoman6991 And this is evidence of what?...
@jaredkaye3669
@jaredkaye3669 2 жыл бұрын
The current partiarchy has existed for 10,000 years. It peaked in 1994 when we criminalized abuse and identified women abuse. Patriarchies are great for wars but it is okay to step back and talk about human rights and later rights for consciousness. Positive thinking is recognizing anger and aversion are opportunities to practice forgiveness. We are programmed to have tantrums by enduring 500 generations of interest bearing debt/wars. Forgiveness is recognizing it is not an individual person's fault but side effects from our capitalistic patriarchal society were we fear being taken advantage of.
@Musa31344
@Musa31344 Жыл бұрын
Which Communist College did you go to?
@ashstevens3361
@ashstevens3361 4 жыл бұрын
This was really great. Thank you! I’d love to hear more about male privilege so that I can understand how I’ve learned powerlessness, limitation, and more growing up female.
@onionpotato3396
@onionpotato3396 4 жыл бұрын
Here is male privilege in a nutshell: the privilege to slave for decades and die young, all for the benefit of women.
@tabbypanda82
@tabbypanda82 3 жыл бұрын
@@onionpotato3396 that’s what you deserve, so pick well.
@jasperhernandez7880
@jasperhernandez7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@tabbypanda82 so ones mad mmm probably hate the truth
@MatauReviews
@MatauReviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@onionpotato3396 hmmm be objectified as cannon fodder or breeding stock? which one’s better? which one’s worse? get the fuck outta here you misogynistic dork lmao
@motorvehicle1330
@motorvehicle1330 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really late but thank you for this video!
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 6 жыл бұрын
Some problems with patriarchy and relationships: 1. it creates a context where abusive men are given too much power over their partners 2. male authority is often used to avoid having difficult but necessary conversations. However, there's also problems with egalitarianism and relationships, for instance: 1. women lose the opportunity for being closer to their children 2. it problematizes the differences between the sexes rather than celebrating those differences. Basically, it is a matter of perspective.
@sezumi8435
@sezumi8435 4 жыл бұрын
Well said! I agree
@ktc227
@ktc227 6 жыл бұрын
I find this man fascinating. He has a practice where all the problems come from men and all the work must be done by the men. He has never seen an adulterous wife; an abusive female partner or a failed marriage from the lose of the man's employment.
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 5 жыл бұрын
Just like he said he don't know much of psychology which is why he is wrong, psychologists know that men in general are slightly more aggresive than women, also women are generally higher in agreeableness than men aswell as in neuroticisism.
@sezumi8435
@sezumi8435 4 жыл бұрын
Both have to work on this, but it is very clear that there's more power on the men's hand atm. They have to loosen up a bit for women to be active more.
@sezumi8435
@sezumi8435 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkwolf4434 That might be true, but it doesn't give you a free pass to be an asshole
@redblue1553
@redblue1553 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkwolf4434 jp?
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 4 жыл бұрын
@@sezumi8435 How was I mean?
@itinerantrebel1799
@itinerantrebel1799 6 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing he has never looked into Briffault’s law. It would really help his practice.
@ashstevens3361
@ashstevens3361 4 жыл бұрын
How so?
@rahelkamber4839
@rahelkamber4839 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@georgespice4017
@georgespice4017 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate great video
@Trainingwithheartllc
@Trainingwithheartllc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! Running a weekend workshop on Authentic Masculinity your video further flushed out my lecture on the man box and patriarchy
@your.dark.lord.
@your.dark.lord. Жыл бұрын
If you needed a workshoo to teach you how to be a man, you will never be. Just another beta loser
@daniilgrachev
@daniilgrachev 5 жыл бұрын
Came across this while procrastinating and avoiding preparing a workshop on masculinity :) Thank you, Chris
@jhinton129
@jhinton129 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@KevinRozek
@KevinRozek 8 жыл бұрын
John, 2 questions. 1. Is your position that all psychological differences between men and women is culturally driven? There's no biology at play there? 2. Can you explain why more femine behavior in male gender roles is a more desirable change than behavior deemed masculine being used by female gender roles? Politics, business, warfare, among other environments seems suited best for personalities that demonstrate personality traits that gravitate more to that masculine realm. Some are even stating it's ideal for a sociopath. so when it comes to female leadership, why is the paradigm requiring a change male behavior instead of female?
@cathjj840
@cathjj840 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe cuz the exclusive male pattern has gotten us into this mess, and it's only logical to also apply some feminine qualities and values to get real balance that produces greater benefits with fewer downsides.
@nguyenphamhoangnguyen3528
@nguyenphamhoangnguyen3528 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, May I ask you for more details on the difference between Patriarchy and Androcentrism
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
They mean the same thing.
@CryTonya
@CryTonya 5 жыл бұрын
YOURE THE BEST CHRIS!!! 💜 Syd!
@leotardbanshee
@leotardbanshee 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. It is so hard to explain to people who benefit in many ways from the current oppressive system that they are also being harmed by it. This has led me to believe that equality, as a goal of feminism is misguided. We don't want to be equal to men as they are existing currently within the patriarchy as they are also oppressed and harmed by this system. We should focus more on eradicating all systems of oppression, starting with the systems that are the most oppressive, rather than trying to be equal to men as they are currently, because my ultimate goal is not to perpetuate suffering in an oppressive system. You will find a lot of people in the comments section who enjoy shooting themselves in the foot with their ideals and their desire to preserve the status quo but i bet there are also people watching this who hear your message so thank you.
@alexandreparent5754
@alexandreparent5754 5 жыл бұрын
Sad that people can't take into account different aspects of what's happening socially and that everything will be blamed on partriarchy. Most of the things that people blames on Patriarchy are in fact another society problem and needs another perspective. Its kinda sad that people just takes every problem that litterally exists and putting it in the Patriarchy box. Women's has more rights than ever, population is free to think and do what they want. Women are actually equal to women. A lot of issues such as the pay gap is associated to "so called Patriarchy". Pay gap betwee men and women is the easiest thing to debunk. There's a minimum of 50 factors explaining it. 1. Men are willing to work longer hours 2. Most Workaholic are men 3. Men works in more dangerous jobs so = +$ an example is men in construction, it pays a lot. 4. Men and women has different interests and more the society has equality of opportunities, more men and women choose different jobs. But this is only a bit on pay gap. After there's more societal problems blamed on the fake Patriarchy that can be explained and ask me one if you want. I am not insulting anyone here thinking that Patriarchy exists but it simply doesnt you can engage the conversation with me and I can debunk most of the things blamed on Patriarchy. It gives nothing to calling youself a victim from the patriarchy. I came watching videos on Patriarchy and I just find weird things, most of the people disagrees with this ideas and I cant see a real social expert anywhere on this issue except when debunking it. Ask me one question about an aspect you think it touches Patriarchy and I can debunk it if you want. As long as the conversation is civil and respectful I am willing to have my mind changed and engage a discussion. My discord is alexbaws159#7493.
@bluetickbeagles116
@bluetickbeagles116 6 жыл бұрын
Please speak in churches and on Family Life Radio. Christianity is hung up on worshiping patriarchy and male privilege.
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 5 жыл бұрын
Gwen are you serious? Let me introduce you to christianity, in the first book of the entire bible it says that both men and women were created in the image of God.
@ylvaolsson2497
@ylvaolsson2497 4 жыл бұрын
@@groovy56 That is not true. True is it though that men are generlly more happy in marrige, and woman are more happy without it. Why do u think that is?
@ylvaolsson2497
@ylvaolsson2497 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkwolf4434 and from the rib of the man came woman. And also, rape is her fault. And also, stone her to death, And also, man is literlly god...hhaha
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 4 жыл бұрын
@@ylvaolsson2497 No, it says that men who rape women should be punished by death in the bible, although I would agree that it is a horrible thing to do even if it is towards a rapist.
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 4 жыл бұрын
@@ylvaolsson2497 I know that the bible is filled with horrible thing, it was written thousands of years ago by many different people, but to spread lies about it is wrong. But I know that radicalising groups is normal in Sweden.
@ladybookworms
@ladybookworms 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the people who think we need different types of men are homophobic? I feel homosexual individuals are by default different and courages and innovative and kind in ways heterosexuals aren't and like it or not WE NEED THESE PEOPLE.
@soulfulgardener
@soulfulgardener Жыл бұрын
‘Socio-sexual capital’ is a phrase used by incels. There is no such thing. Be a better human, attract a better mate. Be an asshole, be single. It’s pretty cut and dry
@j.j.dragon9482
@j.j.dragon9482 Жыл бұрын
It isn't lot's of good men and women have trouble finding a mate
@chrishoff402
@chrishoff402 Жыл бұрын
Incel is what in the old days would have been called the member of a lonely hearts club. A lot of them have disfiguring physical injuries or disabilities or mental disorders they struggle with. Can't really be blamed most of the time, and a lot of women are in the same boat.
@fatemeetsluck
@fatemeetsluck Ай бұрын
[generic comment that boosts video reach]
@annarchie9949
@annarchie9949 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. And it is in my mind a set of a great practical examples for a deep philosophical point, which is that there are no winners in a hierarchy. Those who have been positioned at the top are no freer or happier, because they also have to sacrifice their individual personality to their position. What makes our life worth living are the times in which we can have true human contact, at least as equals, but ideally without tropes of power or dominance involved at all. Therefore the goal of all political activiasm must be to increase the rate of those, ideally to a hundred percents.
@zachweber1817
@zachweber1817 6 жыл бұрын
Ann Archie your deep understanding,I believe is misunderstood and seems purely the subject of your OWN individual experience.that creates ones personality A hiearchy is ONE form evolvution. This creation was born from the consequences driven from the actions and thoughts that, during the time of huters and gatherers, insure the survival of human bieings Awarness of the LAZY, WEAK, AGRESSION,SEX, TRUST,AND POOR LEADERSHIP AND LOSS leads to death, hunger, and extinction. The necessity for a hiearchy was the social construct needed to continue the survivle of people We are equals no doubt about the. Problem is nobody has The balls Or tits to SACRIFICE there flaw ideals and destructive behavior to see that we are ALL the same Damn thing every way you look at it
@1337Se7eN7
@1337Se7eN7 6 жыл бұрын
Ann Archie sorry but if I'm a more skilled worker, people will value the fruit of my labor more. Good luck dismantling a hierarchy predicated on competency.
@1337Se7eN7
@1337Se7eN7 6 жыл бұрын
Ann Archie Also interesting that he posted this video on a video hosting website that sits at the top of the hierarchy of video hosting sites. You know, since hierarchies only exist to opress.
@leotardbanshee
@leotardbanshee 5 жыл бұрын
We want a system that gives people the opportunity to be as competent as they can be without being limited by a system of oppression. If you give more people the opportunity to become skilled workers you're going to have more skilled workers. Lay off the jordan peterson man, he rots your brain.
@leotardbanshee
@leotardbanshee 5 жыл бұрын
Sure, some people will naturally be better at things than other people but as the system exists not everyone even gets the chance to try to gain skills in the areas that they want to. For example, a man enjoys cutting hair but he is systemically discouraged from this career path by members of his social group, because it is a female dominated profession and he becomes a car salesman instead because it is more palatable to society. This is the kind of oppresion that needs to be eradicated.
@katharsis5601
@katharsis5601 Жыл бұрын
What a hopeful find, this channel. Subscribed. You do holy work.
@LeonardStxne
@LeonardStxne Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this! I've been studying The Gender Knot for a class and your application is spot on. Thank you for being a forerunner in this work and helping other men along the way ☀
@johanmetreus1268
@johanmetreus1268 11 ай бұрын
Sorry, but I do not feel The Gender Knot provides any real answers to what actually is going on, and is more an ideological showpiece trying to redefine the vocabulary fit the thesis. Please watch the video "Sex and love in Scandinavia", notice the issues described by the women, who find the males excellent friends and colleagues but unable to cause any sparks of attraction. Furthermore, loneliness isn't an exclusive male problem, but rather a societal one...and given the very sharp decline of the patriarchal structures I dare say the root cause has more to do with the combination of commercialisation and individualism that took its place.
@haki1499
@haki1499 Жыл бұрын
Damn right! I’m tired of all these gender roles and designations we give as a society to men and women and all other genders in between. Just wanna live my life however I see fit! Great video and I will check out these books!
@wanjirunjoroge5942
@wanjirunjoroge5942 Жыл бұрын
Earned a sub from me. The truth hurts and men cant handle the truth.
@rhkn7188
@rhkn7188 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing generalization. If I said it against women I would be termed misogynist
@chrishoff402
@chrishoff402 Жыл бұрын
Nobody Red Pills easy, it's a real Thunder Crunch, The Matrix doesn't do it justice really. More like putting the sunglasses on in "They Live". You won't understand what I'm saying unless it happens to you, and you may or may not survive the experience either. I literally fell off my chair and hit my head on the floor when it happened. For me it was like in the short story Eight O' Clock In The Morning by Ray Nelson from 1963, almost literally. It happened first time I watched the first video from Karen Straughan. I'd gone my entire life taking orders from women who looked just like her starting with my mom and school teachers and feminist customers, never questioning what I was told to believe because there was no other frame of reference/narrative/known alternative social group. It was like breaking out of Plato's cave.
@spidermonkey28
@spidermonkey28 Жыл бұрын
In a true Patriarchy one could not speak out against the Patriarchy. Especially not women. However in our society women speak out against a Patriarchy they have created themselves.
@encouraginglyauthentic43
@encouraginglyauthentic43 Жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're talking about.
@GustafGans-q8c
@GustafGans-q8c Жыл бұрын
you are not entirely wrong.
@beepbopboop7727
@beepbopboop7727 Жыл бұрын
Not true. Its a spectrum not a dichotomy.
@nathanbarnhart2529
@nathanbarnhart2529 Жыл бұрын
@@encouraginglyauthentic43 Can you even tell me what a patriarchy is? Because it looks exactly like a "conspiracy" of a male dominated society to make men's lives harder by every available measure (from workplace deaths, to imprisonment, to divorce impact, loss of access to children, suicide, homelessness) and then to blame them and call them victimizers for it.
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
All sexes and genders created the Patriarchy. We can speak against it, due to 200 years of feminist reforms.
@JamesScullin1970
@JamesScullin1970 26 күн бұрын
I made it to the end Dr. Hoff, thanks.
@adambowman8543
@adambowman8543 3 жыл бұрын
Isolation and ruged individualism are the crucible through which good men forged and toughened to face the hardships of this world
@soulfulgardener
@soulfulgardener Жыл бұрын
Yeh, and they are dying from suicide at a much higher rate than women. Don’t think it worked out the way they thought it would
@stephaniewynn8291
@stephaniewynn8291 Жыл бұрын
Gained a new subbie!!! Thank you for bravely speaking the truth!!!
@missk1942
@missk1942 Жыл бұрын
Yep new sub too
@chrishoff402
@chrishoff402 Жыл бұрын
@@missk1942 I'm subbing too, in the hope that poor therapist has a redeemable soul. He definitely needs help, I can't even begin to imagine what his childhood was like. The other reason being we both have the same first and last names, just diametrically opposite points of view.
@sezumi8435
@sezumi8435 4 жыл бұрын
Teamwork > Dominance system
@GinnyWeatherby1
@GinnyWeatherby1 11 ай бұрын
So many bad comments on a good video! 🙈
@forcedindenturedservant6881
@forcedindenturedservant6881 6 ай бұрын
The patriarchy stole his neck.
@patricksullivan1827
@patricksullivan1827 Жыл бұрын
There is a there there. A part is not the whole. I'm not sure why the piont? If its what i think it is, social power dynamics, then there is much more unhere then there is there. ... lets stand together and make men great for the first time for everyone! 🎉 With fear management tactics such as: condescending tones, over generalizations of examples, phenomenological experiences as totalities, blatantly disregarding other versions of truth, coercion, reification of social discords unto other, and much more. ❤ finally i am informed 😃
@zeltika
@zeltika 3 жыл бұрын
💜💜💜
@charparmoore4700
@charparmoore4700 8 жыл бұрын
Word!
@juliaarambula3153
@juliaarambula3153 11 ай бұрын
So many beta men’s comments here prove this Alpha man’s point.
@prakashsinha58
@prakashsinha58 6 жыл бұрын
God help his patients
@Volvo-f2y
@Volvo-f2y 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
God helps nobody, that's why this dude has to help his patients.
@jdmitaine
@jdmitaine 4 жыл бұрын
very well said.. in these days and age, with so many men totally lost as to who they are and how they should behave, out of solutions, with anger and fear they take it out on women and children who are being killed like never before... how relevant this video is right now... and am hailing from opened progressive Quebec, not some Bible belt obscure remote area.... this is a real problem that transcends geography, religion, socioeconomics
@nwobringiton1282
@nwobringiton1282 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Dee that’s not true at all. Crimes rates have been on a downward trend for a long time. It’s just become sensationalized by the media and the news cycle. Read Steven Pinkers the better angels of our nature and compare what happens now to the bloodbath that most of human history has been. Men today are lost because we’re bombarded with contradictions of what women say vs what women respond to. Women punish weak men and have simultaneously stripped them of what has historically been there roles in society as creators, producers, providers, and protectors. Modern feminism constantly demonizes those things in men and just men in general. That’s why men are so lost. Maybe do some research, apply some critical thinking skills and look at what men and boys think their issues are instead of listening to testosterone deficient bald headed fuckwit and your feminist sisters before you starting stating falsehoods.
@EIndependent_Life
@EIndependent_Life Жыл бұрын
Men needs to stop providing and protecting their families. Women are so powerful they don’t need any help from men.
@veganbutterfly3652
@veganbutterfly3652 Жыл бұрын
Your response shows you didn't even listen to this video. He said nothing about men providing or protecting. He said nothing about the power of women. He's talking about relationships how patriarchy can affect relationships in a negative way. He is not saying patriarch has no benefits. If we accept that nothing in our society is perfect why can't we accept the flaws of patriarchy or the pros and cons of patriarchy? If a man thinks providing and protecting is not the only thing that makes a relationship healthy and enjoyable....that would explain fully why relationships are in trouble.
@lovepawsplay8530
@lovepawsplay8530 Жыл бұрын
Taking an all or nothing attitude like this is a very passive aggressive move.Its obvious you didn't listen, truly listen to this video. Emotionally void and immature.
@loveisthehighestsourceofpower
@loveisthehighestsourceofpower Жыл бұрын
If you do not support women, boys will not survive and guess what? boys are the humans that become men! Men need to stop leaving orphans all over the planet and stop creating wars or humans won't have a planet! Either men change patriarchy and give half of the power to women and half of the resources of the world to women because women deserve all that or we will all perish! In fact the only men that will survive longer will be responsible men that really love children and women! Without women men can even be born!
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 11 ай бұрын
@@veganbutterfly3652 The 'patriarchy' doesn't exist in the first place. It's a conspiracy theory by feminists to help recruit and opress in equal measure. Much like 'race theory' was a tool for an ideology. If someone unironically talks about race theory we correctly dub them a nazi and toss their ass in prison for the harm that lie causes. Why? Because harmful lies need to have consequences. Someone discussing harmful lies like racism, anti-vax and feminism is complicit in the spread of misinformation. Nobody should do it. Spreading harmful lies is not free of consequences.
@amazinggrace313
@amazinggrace313 5 ай бұрын
You definitely didn’t listen to the video
@ScribeLight
@ScribeLight 8 жыл бұрын
Chris, The U.S. population is topped by women over men. Women's emergency shelters outnumber men's by a margin so wide there might as well not be a comparison. Male suicide in this country is 3.5 times that of women. Child custody inordinately favors the mother. Etc, etc. Is it really the case that society defers to and cares more for men than it does women? Because if domination and centeredness are the two pillars that support there being a Patriarchy, then there's isn't much of a Patriarchy to be found, on the terms you have given. Aside from simply saying it is so, what is your evidence for there being a Patriarchy? And following that, what are you doing to combat your own privilege?
@drchrishoff
@drchrishoff 8 жыл бұрын
First, thanks for watching. Second, I think the statistics you quote, both the fact that women's shelter's outnumber men's and the higher suicide rate of men support the argument I make. In point 5 I speak of the increasing isolation men face and i would add that men are socialized that asking for help is weakness and that we are to "pull our selves up by our bootstraps." These ideas (patriarchal ideas) are, according to your stats, are having very detrimental effects to the lives of men. And as far as women's shelter's go, I would review point to about the cultural sanctioned ways that men are permitted to communicate, with anger being one. Most of those women's shelters I would imagine house women who were in some way escaping violence. I am sure the research would validate. And finally, to your last point. I do try and practice the "small acts" I laid out throughout the piece in the attempt to check my own privilege. Again, Thanks for watching and engaging.
@ScribeLight
@ScribeLight 8 жыл бұрын
So, though societal trends and population count would tend to disfavor your offered definition of Patriarchy, that's all just further proof of Patriarchy? Are you *sure* you're not engaged in circular logic?
@satyaveda5153
@satyaveda5153 8 жыл бұрын
I think what he is pointing out here is that when our world moved from a matriarchal society to a patriarchy the current condition is a direct result of that. Things have gotten out of balance, like a lopsided rotation rather than a harmonious one. WE, men and women alike have suffered for this. NIce work Chris! :)
@ScribeLight
@ScribeLight 8 жыл бұрын
When was "our world" a matriarchy?
@satyaveda5153
@satyaveda5153 8 жыл бұрын
It always was since the beginning of time until the catholic church rose to power, which was the beginning of patriarchy as we know it today. Virtue=Humble/ Ego=Control. There was peace and harmony once upon a time.
@chrishoff402
@chrishoff402 Жыл бұрын
How precisely does our patriarchal society reserve positions of authority for men? There must exist a legal mechanism, body of law, or government organization that prevents women from assuming certain positions of authority and reserves them for exclusively for men. Otherwise women could not attain those positions of power. Please provide examples of positions of power unattainable by women and show us some legal document or written set of rules that says this job is reserved exclusively for men. The only thing that even remotely comes to mind is selective service in the U.S., but to say women feel excluded from positions of power they desire to attain by selective service is laughable. It is instead an obligation for service to society imposed exclusively on men under the threat they lose the right to vote, find employment in the civil service, risk fines or even jail time. Then there's the draft during times of war, drafted men who refused to fight could do time in Leavenworth penitentiary. The sole determining factor of masculinity is male genitalia. If you have it, your a man. If you don't, either you had an accident of some sort, or you have female genitalia, in which case you are a women. Women do not like men who do housework or even attempt to do housework, evidence shows that the happiest longest lasting marriages are the ones where the man doesn't, because women interpret any attempt to do so as a hostile incursion into their exclusive domain. Regarding emotional range, the only emotional range women permit for men in a relationship is stoicism. If men open up and express any insecurities, weaknesses or vulnerability, their female partners will feel anxiety and insecurity, they will become angry and demand they 'man up' or they will walk out on them and find a 'real man' to replace them. Women rely on men for their own emotional security, what you are suggesting men should do would undermine that. Regarding accountability in a relationship, flip the gender roles for once. What accountability and responsibility should women take in the relationship to their man and His emotional life? Perhaps women should be the ones to listen intently without defending or denying? If men have invisible privileges, isn't that sort of like the emperors new clothes, we are told to believe they are there even though we can't see them. Has it ever occurred to you they might not exist. Feminism has defined rape as a crime that can only be committed against a women by a man. When you include the category of all sexual assaults, the numbers for males being sexually attacked by females is equal with sexual assaults committed by males against females. As for violence, men get murdered far more often than women do. Nobody listens to a single word men say, and if you think men assume they will be given positions of leadership, you haven't heard of DEI quotas in the workplace. It's becoming increasingly difficult for white heterosexual males to get decent jobs, they need to prove at the very minimum they are Gay but preference is now given to Trans women. It's no longer a choice, it's coercive, they will be discriminated against in the workplace, they are literally forced against their will to engage in a gender lifestyle they consider truly disgusting at a deep emotional level, or they don't get a paycheck. That's what the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was really about, forcing people against their will to engage in sexual activity they considered abominable. Men are walking away from relationships, they are looking at the last two generations of how feminism and no fault divorce has utterly destroyed the lives of their grandfathers, their fathers, uncles, brothers, best male friends, male coworkers, and they are saying to themselves, not for me. They don't want to lose their house even if they still have to pay the mortgage, access to their children, they don't want half their salary taken away from them. They don't want to be thrown in prison for non support because an economic downturn has taken their job. They don't want to fall victim to the 'silver bullet, a weaponized false accusation by an ex partner of rape or domestic violence. They don't want the gaslighting by society and feminist therapists who employ the patriarchy conjecture, because it's not a theory, and it's been debunked over and over again. Two generations of feminism has rendered the average women's personality almost indistinguishable from a narcissist or borderline personality disorder. A growing percentage of young men who do seek marriage are traveling to other countries where feminism has been rejected not only by the government but the female population. I would strongly recommend taking the definition of patriarchy theory, removing the words man, male, masculinity, and replacing them with the words Jew, Jewry, Judaism. Likewise female, and feminist with German or Aryan. Reread the definition of patriarchy, and what you will discover is that Patriarchy Theory is indistinguishable from The World Wide Jewish Conspiracy. As a follower of the Men's Rights Movement I will subscribe to your channel. I'll encourage other MRAs and MGTOWs as well. You might even discover what it means to RED PILL, because The Matrix doesn't do the experience half the justice. Especially for a male feminist like yourself, discovering that everything you have been taught to believe to be true is false, especially in your case, about your profession.
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 11 ай бұрын
Fatherhood, women are banned from it. 😉 Loads of power and authority! Come to think of it the working hours are garbage though. The pay's negative in terms of money. And it's loud. And at times annoying. And you're not allowed to quit, even trying will get you heavily ostracised. Actually nevermind, worst job ever, 11/10, would start doing it again.
@chrishoff402
@chrishoff402 11 ай бұрын
@@nvelsen1975 LULZ
@mpress469
@mpress469 2 жыл бұрын
Spiritually speaking (gender, race and simping aside), matriarchy and patriarchy can begin with a fundamental understanding of the cyclical nature of reality (God). Represented by the snake in many creation myths, the living cycle has a trinity of a beginning (head), a middle and end (tail). As above so below, the sexes were created in the image of God's cyclical nature where Mother is the head and opening to all beginnings and Father holds the tail to all endings (through which the sowing of seeds allow for the next great matriarchal rebirth).The joining of the two (symbolized by the Ouroborus or the marriage ring) is the sacred union needed in assuring the creation and continuation of new life cycles. To speak of the present day God as "Our Father" is simply an admission to our collective positioning within the bigger cycle. As all mothers have direct experience with the creator quality of birthing, so is the direct experience of rebirthing the divinity within (baptism) belong to that which is spiritually matriarchal. (John 3, verse 3-8). Sekhmet statues (ancient Egyptian) carry most of their weight in symbolic memory of what was a mother culture dedicated to the direct experience of baptism. As the leg shaped hairlocks extend from maternal breasts to the womb of rebirth, the lioness's head proportions are such that they highlight the bust of a second animal figure. The Lioness's ears as eyes and eyes as nose (nostrils) brings to life the figure of a reptile. 'Neath the halo headress of the solar egg, the lioness's egg fertilization process being internal (Set) and the reptile's egg fertilization process being external (Setting), such being key components to the safety of entering the trans-egoic or "born again" state. The life threatening fear associated with the predatory nature of a lion and/or crocodile encounter are reflective of the intense ego death experiences associated with the transpersonal awakening process. In spiritually matriarchal times, illumination could be seen as wearing the false beard (ancient Egyptian funerary ego death mask) as the high state of cyclical self knowing; high cyclical awareness of both our upper matriarchal half and our lower (later) patriarchal half (compared with a mini lower body replica, an "as above so below" tail end beard extension); in full recognition of her civilizational Underworld; her inevitable cyclical destiny. The male pharaoh wears his beard tapered in reverse, indicating a pointing upwards towards the patriarchal head, divine representative of God's tail end cycle. Mary's anointing and wiping of Jesus's feet with her hair can then be seen as "Head to tail" (toe) imagery as she descends her matriarchal head to his patriarchal feet, thus reenacting the high understanding of the divine cyclical process. (John 12, verse 3) To carry the Ankh (now the female symbol ♀️) was perhaps to symbolically carry that upper and lower understanding. As the upper matriarchal womb symbolised the fertile birthing of civilization, below, the now Christian cross is carried to place emphasis on the lower (later) "End Times" Father principle of the great cycle. Ganesha, the elephant headed Hindu diety, displays a cyclical head to trunk symbolism and points to the Mother head of his matriarchal elephant society. Ganesha (like the elephant) wears God's cyclical nature on his face. A whole temple was dedicated to Hathor (ancient Egyptian diety) who is the matriarchal "Uterus" personified. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGHQYa2AiKp5gZI "See all women as mothers, serve them as your mother. when you see the entire world as the mother, the ego falls away. See everything as Mother and you will know God." - Neem Karoli Baba "My son, keep thy father's commandment and forsake not the law of thy mother" - Proverbs 6 : 20
@eddieandre-theraven5008
@eddieandre-theraven5008 2 жыл бұрын
Prove a single Christian God is real? Most Christian based religions have a single God as a Man. "The cyclical nature of reality (God)". is a fancy way of saying some dude in the sky created everything... Nearly as ridiculous as the cartoon of Patriarchy presented by this quack Doc. He failed to point out that men also get abused both in hetro couples and Gay Male couples. This is just a Christian orientated post. Ignoring the strong Women of other Pagan beliefs. Pleas don't brow beat people with Christianity.
@deanhettig1920
@deanhettig1920 Жыл бұрын
Where is the literature on this? You’re a licensed therapist I presume? Where’s your academic training case studies clinical trials? Anything to source your claim here would be helpful thanks
@soulfulgardener
@soulfulgardener Жыл бұрын
Denial of patriarchy doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. He’s talking directly to you, are you listening?
@candorsspot2775
@candorsspot2775 Жыл бұрын
​@@soulfulgardenerNo evidence of it existing is the issue. What is truly meant by patriarchy is a society that is ruled by logic and reason versus emotions. The only reason for this is because an emotion led society leads to fascism/communism and mass death. Emotionalism/Matriarchy is a death cult. Just look at what has happened every time it's been tried. North Korea, Communist China, East Germany, Hitler's Germany, Venezuela. All matriarchal societies.
@jennmello8829
@jennmello8829 Жыл бұрын
@@candorsspot2775 I could give you a laundry list of research that proves the patriarchy exists and is as harmful if not more harmful to men than woman. It’s late, I’m not gonna send that list…BUT grab the book “For The Love Of Men” by Liz Plank. Not only is her book excellent, but she cites at least 100 books and Studies in the back of the book. Check out that book, and the list…it’s eye opening and hard to argue with. I’ll leave you with this… 2 fish are swimming, and an older fish swims up and says “hey guys. How’s the water?” The 2 fish swim along until the one fish says “what the heck is water?” - FIN
@jennmello8829
@jennmello8829 Жыл бұрын
@@candorsspot2775also…it needs to be said. Your disdain and disrespect for woman is written right on into your comment. Are we emotional? We can be. Sure. Why? Because we’re human. Do you know where the majority of our emotional life comes from? If you say our hormones, you’d be dead wrong. It’s from our trauma and pain from living in a world that wasn’t designed for us, and refuses to understand us. Before you argue back, yes I can back this up with research too. Read “The Myth Of Normal” by Dr. Gabor Mate. There’s an entire chapter dedicated to this exact topic.
@candorsspot2775
@candorsspot2775 Жыл бұрын
@@jennmello8829 I do understand what you mean. It took me a long time, but I do understand what is meant by the idea we are living in a patriarchy. It is a world where rules are set by more or less objective standards. Women relate to a world where subjectivity rules. Now my response to that is this type of world is dangerous and ultimately harmful to everyone. So it isn't this way as a punishment, but as protection.
@mrpopsful
@mrpopsful Жыл бұрын
On paper, a lot of this makes sense. However, putting it into practice (sometimes for a few decades) tells a different story. Being the man that is willing to open up, who contributed with at least 50% of the housework and 100% of the finances, the father that wakes up to do the 3am feedings (thanks to breast pumps and baby formula), the patient problem solver, the affectionate cuddler always comes to the painful result and realization that it is NOT appreciated by women after all. They will always manage to grow tired of it. Every man like this I have talked to has had the same result. The more you try to do to take the load off her shoulders, the less she respects you. It is the most ass backwards thing in human psychology.
@Samanthaasdfghjkl
@Samanthaasdfghjkl Жыл бұрын
Lies but ok lol
@Samanthaasdfghjkl
@Samanthaasdfghjkl Жыл бұрын
Like find a better partner you sad, sad person… men always be like “on paper” as if your entire lives aren’t set up to be supported on paper and in societal practice. Go take your personal grievances to a therapist.
@michaeldavis3139
@michaeldavis3139 Жыл бұрын
Who hurt you?
@GoJojo-lv6zi
@GoJojo-lv6zi Жыл бұрын
You chose to be with that kind of woman. Lots of great women out there would want a good man, but they’re not 20-year old models so you don’t want them. Choose better.
@Emptytopfloor
@Emptytopfloor Жыл бұрын
What a load of nonsense.
@your.dark.lord.
@your.dark.lord. Жыл бұрын
I wish there was a patriarchy, tired of so much BS and wokism. And I'm not alone. Pendulum law is at work as always
@lovepawsplay8530
@lovepawsplay8530 Жыл бұрын
The wokism and feminist movement are a narrative to keep up the patriarchal gap.
@socratesnewell5009
@socratesnewell5009 9 ай бұрын
Ur tired cause ur dummmm
@ethanhardeman5941
@ethanhardeman5941 3 жыл бұрын
cheers guys cheers
@maxmarinic8859
@maxmarinic8859 3 жыл бұрын
Ben thomas
@VicariousReality7
@VicariousReality7 8 жыл бұрын
4:04 Testicles not found
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
That's because KZbin doesn't allow male full-frontal nudity.
@tobiastobias2419
@tobiastobias2419 Жыл бұрын
ANGER AND SILENCE !!!!!!!!!😤
@StarJester
@StarJester 2 жыл бұрын
cool video :)
@PookieWoe
@PookieWoe Жыл бұрын
Algorithm boost. Thank you
@Musa31344
@Musa31344 Жыл бұрын
Reinstate the draft for women and this man
@slardebard
@slardebard Жыл бұрын
Oh... This dude is serious?
@ella1125
@ella1125 Жыл бұрын
Yep, and he’s right
@slardebard
@slardebard Жыл бұрын
@@ella1125 patriarchy is bs. Just because it's been shouted for 40 years doesn't make it true.
@LikeToWatch77
@LikeToWatch77 5 ай бұрын
Crazy I know. It's amazing how completely brain-washed he is.
@hangblague
@hangblague 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a patriarch. My clan is up to 15 now. Being a patriarch is a deeply challenging but rewarding calling. If you aspire to be a patriarch, you have a noble goal. Love your woman and spend time with your kids. Instill in them an ethic of gratitude.
@disabledbabe
@disabledbabe Жыл бұрын
Ethnic of gratitude 😅.
@crystlelakefarm1254
@crystlelakefarm1254 Жыл бұрын
You're one of the few good ones, most men usually only want full control over their wife and kids
@slardebard
@slardebard Жыл бұрын
​@@crystlelakefarm1254most?
@clottadams5028
@clottadams5028 Жыл бұрын
Relationships? That's how I know that there is no longer a patriarchy. Genghis Khan didn't have any relationships. Patriarchy ended with the Mongol Empire.
@socratesnewell5009
@socratesnewell5009 9 ай бұрын
Oranges? That’s how I know there is no longer a blue pitcher. The Unibomber didn’t have any oranges. Blue pitchers ended when the Oklahoma City Bomber was arrested. This is how u fkn sound. READ THAT AGAIN.
@maryamdiao1509
@maryamdiao1509 3 ай бұрын
Lies
@tanneranderson7501
@tanneranderson7501 7 жыл бұрын
??? Watched this and wtf is going on? how whipped is this dude
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
The only "whipped" dudes wear leather and lean on St. Andrew's Crosses before leather daddies or dominatrixes' whips in leather bars and sex clubs, lol!
@MisterKorihor
@MisterKorihor 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed an underlying tone of contempt for men and masculinity in this video.
@nwobringiton1282
@nwobringiton1282 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed a blatant contempt for men and masculinity in this video
@jasperhernandez7880
@jasperhernandez7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@nwobringiton1282 male dominance is important
@soulfulgardener
@soulfulgardener Жыл бұрын
I didn’t hear that at all, guess it must have been your defensive trigger
@DK-ox7xi
@DK-ox7xi 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, it's the man's fault. Again. What a surprise.
@aldaoroman
@aldaoroman 5 жыл бұрын
IKR?.
@ylvaolsson2497
@ylvaolsson2497 4 жыл бұрын
Most people play along with the Patrarchys roles and traditions, is the easy way. i dont understand why u think its bad for men to try to experience a borader range of emotions, that they have learnd to avoid, as a result they cant build social bonds as well as woman, and when left by woman, often becaus they can not/will not learn how to commuicate without anger or voilence or simply shutting down and being silent. The man has no contact with family and friends, bcus the woman has held the familys social connetions alive. Its only good for men to learn how to communicate, keep relationships. And its not wierd that the person who benefits most from this way of living must change? Its as normal as black people cant be alone in the fight against rasism, as all white people sitting and looking away. They most see their part in the opression by simply locating the privledge, being awere of it, and try not to use it.
@motorvehicle1330
@motorvehicle1330 3 жыл бұрын
@@ylvaolsson2497 exactly!
@tabbypanda82
@tabbypanda82 3 жыл бұрын
But it is males fault, MALES MADE PATRIARCHY, MALES MADE THE RULES🧐
@jasperhernandez7880
@jasperhernandez7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@ylvaolsson2497 we don't because one women won't like it also no one cares so why show emotions?
@internetperson-sd9yk
@internetperson-sd9yk Жыл бұрын
King❤️
@Musa31344
@Musa31344 Жыл бұрын
Trans king
@adamchavez999
@adamchavez999 3 жыл бұрын
What's the last time you checked your estrogen levels?
@Aman-qr6wi
@Aman-qr6wi 3 жыл бұрын
What's the last time you checked your common sense?
@Aman-qr6wi
@Aman-qr6wi 3 жыл бұрын
@He Who Shines and Shakes and Laughs simps, lol. Sounds like all americans are 13 year old minded.
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
I checked mine after my last medical appointment! He only needs to check his if he's a trans man.
@matejblaha4659
@matejblaha4659 3 жыл бұрын
Targeting masculinity is offensive. I wouldn't name toxic femininity or toxic humanity - there are misconceptions/roles of being a man, a woman, and a human, but these should be named differently. It is harmful to target men's identity - it is harmful to feminists, to men, to women and to the society. Targeting one's identity literary harms them, if it is not obvious look at the social identity theory. And that is what society does to women. When you attack men's identity, they are not going to listen to you because protecting their identity comes first. It just harms both sides and creates conflict, it is the reason why people think feminism is a men hatting movement. For any peaceful debate to be possible, all parties must be respected. With all respect, look in your comments and think about why these people are so offensive and seemingly misogynistic?
@motorvehicle1330
@motorvehicle1330 3 жыл бұрын
But he's not targeting masculinity. He's targeting certain traits associated with "masculinity that can be toxic to both the man and the people around them, like "don't show emotions", "don't be weak", etc.
@matejblaha4659
@matejblaha4659 3 жыл бұрын
@@motorvehicle1330 Yes, I understand that. There are also harmful traits that are typical for people in general, or for people in certain cultures, but it seems very innapropriate to say "toxic humainity" or name types of humanity that are toxic, as it seems to suggest that there might be something wrong with humanity as such. My intuition could be completely off, but I have seen some research papers and the idea that feminism is an attack on masculinity is behind the backslashes against feminism, and I believe that a large portion of these people genuinly believe that that's what feminism is about. I have also seen a feminist paper, according to which some feminists based on the theory of masculinities act wrongly towards men who don't display these traits. So that's why I believe that the focus on these terms gets overgeneralised and only provokes conflict and I don't see it as justifiable.
@soulfulgardener
@soulfulgardener Жыл бұрын
@@matejblaha4659you’ve never read a paper on feminism, not ever. You are triggered because this i formation hits too close to home and the first reaction of any human with faced with something they don’t want to see about themselves is defensiveness
@slardebard
@slardebard Жыл бұрын
​@@soulfulgardeneryou triggered again?
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
People think feminism is a man-hating movement because woman-haters persecuted Second Wave Feminists so heavily, that one of its various factions became man-hating Radical Feminists and moved to women-only communes in the '60s and '70s, and later TERFs today. Phyllis Schlafley, a right-wing activist smeared the Feminist Movement with the above Straw Feminist stereotype in the '70s, killing the Equal Rights Amendment. Misogyny is ancient and predates feminism. It comes from hunter-horticulture societies, whose men hunt big game in all-male hunting parties and secret societies.
@ANPennsylvania
@ANPennsylvania 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but my family still believe in this. My wife supports my decisions 100% and stands behind her Husband.
@debayanpal3181
@debayanpal3181 2 жыл бұрын
And that's not good...
@AmanitaWoodrose
@AmanitaWoodrose Жыл бұрын
@@debayanpal3181 did you notice he spelled wife with a small w and husband with a capital h?!
@cleanchannel3029
@cleanchannel3029 Жыл бұрын
She should stand BESIDE not behind. Also in what ways do you support her?
@ANPennsylvania
@ANPennsylvania Жыл бұрын
@@cleanchannel3029 she has no need to work, is financially secure and built a spectacular custom home for my family. I own a business with 500+ employees and a 200 Mil value, at 38 years old. You can say what you want, but a man leads the Family no questions asked.
@ak-47intelligence75
@ak-47intelligence75 Жыл бұрын
​@@ANPennsylvaniaAll of this is real......in a parallel universe 😆 That's all you're good for. Talk, boast , brag and gloat about the things you don't have. Yawns.
@Chercheure_Indépendante
@Chercheure_Indépendante Жыл бұрын
6:10 that's why I decided to be single since decennials.
@martin5504
@martin5504 Жыл бұрын
I could hardly disagree with you more. I think your views are spurious.
@cerealexperiments8189
@cerealexperiments8189 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Not very nuanced but at least it's not insulting.
@tindotti3788
@tindotti3788 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely 💯 nonsense
@The.Android
@The.Android Жыл бұрын
Is this a comedy sketch?
@ohgee2350
@ohgee2350 3 жыл бұрын
“We men”?… You mean “we white men”?
@MatauReviews
@MatauReviews 2 жыл бұрын
black patriarchy is a thing too. highly distinct from white patriarchy
@cleanchannel3029
@cleanchannel3029 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, y'all seem to be doing everything in your power to be like white men lol don't even get me started with Black men.
@theunfadeable60
@theunfadeable60 4 жыл бұрын
"Experiment with other way s to be male". No Thanks
@ylvaolsson2497
@ylvaolsson2497 4 жыл бұрын
Tis scary huh? talking, listening and having more then two emotsions. u are so trapped, and u learnd to love ur cage. And are pulling every woman u have a relationship with in too the cage to. just dare to be more than a pretend man. it will help u
@theunfadeable60
@theunfadeable60 4 жыл бұрын
I don't take advice from men who learned masculinity from women. Stop copying and pasting stuff from the Huffington post. You know you didnt write that.
@felipemeregildo1430
@felipemeregildo1430 4 жыл бұрын
@@theunfadeable60 this is just sad
@motorvehicle1330
@motorvehicle1330 3 жыл бұрын
@@felipemeregildo1430 i know right
@jasperhernandez7880
@jasperhernandez7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@motorvehicle1330 I know this video is sad😔
@skatman3278
@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын
Q: "5 Ways Patriarchy Affects Men and their Relationships" A: It doesn't.
@loveisthehighestsourceofpower
@loveisthehighestsourceofpower Жыл бұрын
the type of man you are won't survive the next decades! Men that do not love women and children won't make it ever! women create all humans and protect children and because of that the human specie can't survive with out them! We deserve better men!
@markstriker925
@markstriker925 Жыл бұрын
​ I disagree with this person. But reproduction doesn't make a man "better"
@Blopusanian
@Blopusanian 11 ай бұрын
@@loveisthehighestsourceofpowerThere is no patriarchy and you are a moron who wants to shame people. You’re actually completely wrong too because when was the last time male feminists were getting laid lol.
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
I guess you were never the class geek in boys' P.E. or in an inner city high school, then!
@turbodood637
@turbodood637 2 жыл бұрын
beta
@tindotti3788
@tindotti3788 2 жыл бұрын
Closet
@micmacc2014
@micmacc2014 3 жыл бұрын
Patriarchy is inevitable.
@thelmajohn4149
@thelmajohn4149 3 жыл бұрын
Voting rights used to be too.
@MatauReviews
@MatauReviews 2 жыл бұрын
no it very isn’t. like saying “slavery is inevitable” and quoting the bible to justify it. these are social constructs and systems that can be dismantled
@riliuchan9239
@riliuchan9239 2 жыл бұрын
Patriarchy is man made n actually created by men. It's nothing but just a belief system or way of life for privileged men living in patriarchal countries so they don't even knw wt a life w/o patriarchy is n so they will never accept the fact patriarchy exists. Customs like women staying in her husband's home, dowry, decisions being made by mostly the men in the house, women doing most of the chores, women not talking back or being loud or bold, dress code for women after marriage, women asking permission for going out anywhere even unlike men even tho she's an adult.. an adult I repeat, women in patriarchal countries r expectd to b intimate wid spouse even if she's uncomfortable or forcing her to have children, this is most odd of all🧐 like in which century these ppl r living 🧐
@micmacc2014
@micmacc2014 2 жыл бұрын
@@riliuchan9239 I realize you really aren’t in conflict with me. You are at war with biology and reality. Patriarchy is inevitable. Deal with it.
@riliuchan9239
@riliuchan9239 2 жыл бұрын
@@micmacc2014 N I realize u must b frm a patriarchal country n it's ur way of life n that's y hard to accept living w/o it for u cuz u don't knw of the societies which give equal imp to both the genders. I SUGGEST U TRAVEL N LEARN ABOUT THE WORLD. Sm cultures r matrilineal if u didn't knw. Don't b a frog living in a well. U sound insensitive saying uk cz u won't like living like the women in a patriarchal country. Oh i forgot that patriarchal men r incapable feeling anything especially other's emotions/feelings
@josecortez5213
@josecortez5213 3 жыл бұрын
Gentlemen, hope you are going to do the opposite of what this guy says.
@Melikefoxlol101
@Melikefoxlol101 2 жыл бұрын
Men have a higher suicide rate and you're here determined to keep that trend going aren't you? I'll tell you right now that women who are emotionally healthy won't tolerate the emotional coldness you guys think constitutes "masculinity". You're furthering your own alienation and then blame women for it
@cleanchannel3029
@cleanchannel3029 Жыл бұрын
​@@Melikefoxlol101 Exactly 💯
@slardebard
@slardebard Жыл бұрын
​@@Melikefoxlol101you mean women have higher rates of mental health problems, who also attempt suicide at higher rates than men? No thanks
@tinycatfromhell
@tinycatfromhell 8 ай бұрын
@@slardebard No. Women seek medical help at a higher rate than men, that's why men are underdiagnosed.
@TheWorldFromFerg
@TheWorldFromFerg 8 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@MisterFuh
@MisterFuh 8 жыл бұрын
kek
@larrytompkins5719
@larrytompkins5719 6 жыл бұрын
polygyny could help.
@darlalathan6143
@darlalathan6143 9 күн бұрын
Only if both the husband and wife do it, like in some African and Tibetan marriages!
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