5090, 5080 Specs UNPRECEDENTED and so much more PC Hardware NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!1one!!!1111!!!!!1337!

[@danielowentech]

Family got home before I could do timestamps. Maybe one of you can do it?

[@mitchellrenaud7163]

😂😂

[@DarkEnigma1115]

Edit: Just edit your pinned comment and copy/paste these timestamps: Edit 2: Btw bro, congrats on 200k, just noticed 1:38 Leaks and rumors 4:30 Performance targets 5:38 Looking back at previous gens 80vs90. 9:30 Previous gens performance uplift 80vs90 11:10 Speculating on release date 11:30 40 series production decrease 12:50 AMD dropping out of high-end GPUs might affect prices 13:25 GPU market share statistics 14:50 "What about battlemage?" 16:00 iGPU Intel vs AMD 18:10 Desktop vs Laptop iGPUs 19:00 Intel microcode update 20:30 AMD 9k series X3D speculations 22:15 AMD 9k series price cuts 22:43 New AM5 motherboards 23:33 MSI 4070ti Super Stalker 2 themed 24:00 PS5 Pro AI upscaler 25:15 Nintendo statement about console performance 26:00 Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster 27:38 PSN bypass pulled from NexusMods 28:35 New Sony OLED monitor with DP2.1

[@DarkEnigma1115]

YT deleted my comment (at least on my end), 2nd try: 1:38 Leaks and rumors 4:30 Performance targets 5:38 Looking back at previous gens 80vs90. 9:30 Previous gens performance uplift 80vs90 11:10 Speculating on release date 11:30 40 series production decrease 12:50 AMD dropping out of high-end GPUs might affect prices 13:25 GPU market share statistics 14:50 "What about battlemage?" 16:00 iGPU Intel vs AMD 18:10 Desktop vs Laptop iGPUs 19:00 Intel microcode update 20:30 AMD 9k series X3D speculations 22:15 AMD 9k series price cuts 22:43 New AM5 motherboards 23:33 MSI 4070ti Super Stalker 2 themed 24:00 PS5 Pro AI upscaler 25:15 Nintendo statement about console performance 26:00 Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster 27:38 PSN bypass pulled from NexusMods 28:35 New Sony OLED monitor with DP2.1

[@DirectorX59]

Your comments are both here, ​@@DarkEnigma1115

[@bmqww223]

battlemage for lunar lake is the better gpu than current amd offering you can check it out in sythetic benchmarks where it is 10 to 15 percent faster, what i think we are getting lower performance is due to the driver issue, but one must be mindful that the architecture is drastically differnt from alchemist so a bit of driver polishing might make bttlemage desktop launch very smooth and might threaten rdna 4 because intel had already focused on raytracing in prior generation and it was almost near nvidia in lower end, and given they are claiming almost 40-50 percent better RT performance rdna 4 is being threatened thats why they are suddenly talking about market share , how gamers should be able to afford cards, plus they are slow in the upscaler race too, even if they get ai upscaling in rdna 4 , but the handhelds and the mobile processors will not have AI upscaling ,people must remember this, just benchmark score can help you give verdict, its not a black and white situation here..... Intel has currently, AI upscaling(xess 1.4 might be bundled with battlemage dgpu to boost marketibility), superior encode decode, better RT .(better overall performnce if they fix the drivers before the desktop launch) Amd has better drivers, worse RT , Worse upscaling, worse encode decode functions....(and these issue will plague and be more pronounced if lunar lake fixes the driver problems .... even arrival of newer mobile chips would change the equation because rdna 3.5)

[@Sigma1]

I can't wait for all of these new AAA games that will target 5090 at medium 1080p 60fps with DLSS ultra performance and frame gen. I'm so excited.

[@aname4681]

Ah yes, monster hunter: wilds 2

[@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor]

But the dev teams can use all that 5090 powwa so we can see the peach fuzz on the characters faces lol

[@thecatdaddy1981]

"Bro how can you be against all of this FREE performance bro, this is the future bro, you can download more fps!!!1111"

[@RFC3514]

And that's with _two_ interpolated frames added between real ones.

[@tortugatech]

wtf are you talking about? You can play black myth wukong with full path tacing and max settings at 4k 60 dlss performance, so 1080p internal, looks absolutely fine!

[@KmanKarl1]

16GB for a 5080 is pathetic

[@BrunoUtech]

you gonna play a game or simulate physics? lol edit: 😱

[@xDrezi]

yhup should have had 24gb of VRAM minimum.

[@LoganE01]

​@@BrunoUtech trying to do both with the whole game loaded into RAM.....

[@senti2175]

​@@BrunoUtechGot news for you. Games simulate physics 🤌

[@K3Vz0]

@BrunoUtech I want my $1500 gpus to last a couple of years ya'know?

[@Tantemify]

gg. if the 5080 has 16gb, the 5070 will sure have 12 gb vram again....

[@seanchaney2546]

Yeah will be really annoying

[@vvhitevvizard_]

RTX 2060 12GB -> RTX 3060 12GB -> RTX 4060 _8_GB...

[@Thunderhawk51]

History repeating itself.

[@BlackJesus8463]

12GB is why a lot of people didnt buy the 4070s theyd be Nvidia to do it again.

[@alanliang9538]

@@vvhitevvizard_that’s cause 4060 is 4050. 4070 is actually 4060

[@OraOraOra]

I'm not mad at the 5080 having 16GB VRAM, I'm mad because that implies that the 5070 will have less than 16GB 24GB for the 5080 and 16GB for the 5070 would be perfect. Like wtf is this? Even at a good price, the power consumtion is CRAZY. It seems like since the 3090 dropped, Nvidia does everything to get people to buy the 90 series.

[@LprogressivesANDliberals]

Yup classic nvidia upselling. The 5080 ti super will have 24gb 😢

[@Thunderhawk51]

​@@LprogressivesANDliberals Yup, was about to say that. History repeating itself. 5070 Ti Super 16GB and cost like 1200€. Minimum.

[@HetNeSS]

Get ready to buy additional power supply for your 5090

[@Thunderhawk51]

@@HetNeSS And fire extinguisher 😅

[@andersjjensen]

You must be new here... Nvidia has, over the past 30 years, consistently been assholes to everyone. Professionals hate their bullshit but accept that they need them. The older gamers are, the higher the percentage that "defect" to Radeon on principle matter. Nvidia's only "real" partner is Nintendo (probably the most litigious company in the world). All other collaboration partnerships have ended with the other part slamming the door and never coming back. Apple used to feature Nvidia GPUs in their high end products. Microsoft used to feature Nvidia GPUs the XBox. In both instances Nvidia refused to refund defect chips "because they weren't being paid enough per unit" (that bit Apple REAL bad, btw, as that was during the 8600/8800GT "GPUs melt themself off the board" fiasco that also hit a lot of PC laptops).

[@SCYN0]

0:00:00: Introduction and Overview 0:00:09: Performance and Specifications of RTX 5090 and 5080 0:01:30: Leaked Information Source 0:02:40: Detailed Comparison of RTX 5090 and 5080 0:04:16: Performance Implications 0:05:27: Historical Context and Comparison 0:07:43: Pricing and Market Impact 0:11:09: Future Expectations and Market Trends 0:12:50: Competition and Market Share 0:14:40: Intel’s Upcoming Products 0:18:59: Intel’s Struggles and Microcode Updates 0:20:32: AMD’s 9000 Series and Upcoming X3D Chips 0:22:19: Pricing and Motherboard Information for AMD’s 9000 Series 0:23:34: MSI’s RTX 4070 Ti Super Gaming Slim Version 0:24:01: PS5 Pro and AI Upscaler with PSSR 0:25:17: Nintendo’s Strategy and Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster 0:27:35: Controversial PlayStation Network Requirement 0:28:36: Sony’s New OLED Monitor credit @israelgarcia5597

[@Xero_Wolf]

Thank you!

[@jaredangell8472]

Is VRAM just too expensive for the richest company on earth to afford to spring for?

[@Chicken-o5e]

They purposely cheap out on lower end cards so consumers get pushed to buy the best and leave room to make something like the rtx 5080 super later on which will have like 20 gb vram lol so greedy and stingy especially bcuz no competition and ppl mostly know nvidia rather than amd value

[@Usersf134ssk]

The less you give the more you earn - Nvidia 😉

[@19CD91]

Look man they didnt get that pile of cash by giving away money.

[@lanelesic]

When crypto miners needed more than 8GB of vram, nvidia was real quick to release 2060 12GB and 3060 12GB. When gamers need more vram, nvidia is using it as a planned obsolescence weapon.

[@Noqtis]

Fuck Nvidia

[@wireless1235]

What makes you think the 5080 would go down to $800? The current 80 class card is selling for $1k+. Prices are more likely to be the same or worse than last gen and the 90 class card is going to cost even more.

[@douglasmurphy3266]

There is no way. Even $1000 you know nvidia is thinking why should we have to give these peasants a stitch of GDDR7? And the implications of having to lower prices on 4070TiS and 4080S. $1000 is a low estimate.

[@vvhitevvizard_]

a seller can set any price he wishes. Question is how many people would buy for this price

[@firstnamelastname366]

​@@vvhitevvizard_ It's Nvidia. It will sell good enough

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@firstnamelastname366 Why are you white knighting high prices on the internet?

[@firstnamelastname366]

​@@BlackJesus8463I'm not? It just reality, people will buy whatever pos nvidia puts out because it has nvidia or rtx in the name

[@marcelthorsen]

Why wouldn’t they make the 5080 24GB? Classic NVIDIA greed!🤣

[@LprogressivesANDliberals]

Yup upsale to the 5080 ti super 😢

[@darthfurby]

Nvidia probably dumbed down the 5080 to sell to China.

[@AW-wy3xv]

384bit bus too expensive, they need profit.

[@senti2175]

​​@@darthfurbyVRAM has nothing to do with selling to China. The 4090D has same VRAM as 4090. Which is already more than this 5080. In fact there are modified 4090 selling in China that have more than double the VRAM of original.

[@lnll1lnlt1l]

Planned obsolete

[@BearfootBob]

I have faith that Nvidia will find a way to make the 5000 series down the stack a worse value than any of their previous BS and that is saying a lot

[@SwampyF4RT]

Ngreedia

[@velocitymg]

Maybe AMD is banking on Nvidia high prices and low vram to break Nvidias hold on mid range market instead of actually delivering something substantial to compete with.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

@@SwampyF4RT mental capacity of a 5 year old

[@Ambatukam69317]

@@velocitymg i hope so and i hope amd gets access to cude cores this is becoming a monopoly

[@haukionkannel]

And sell more by big margin than AMD and Intel together… I am not surpriced is Nvidias market share goes close to 90% from 86% it has now! 😂

[@Haddley333]

In before: “should I buy a 5080 or wait for the 16gb 6080?

[@benoittheminerandgamer]

the problem is the price is way to high and The RTX 5080 should be at 24gb not 16gb.

[@andersjjensen]

400W is also totally stupid. I have a 355W card and I've power limited it down to 300W because my home office gets stupid hot if I don't. I came from a 230W card and was NOT prepared for how big a difference 125W more was.

[@IDK-gh4st]

@@andersjjensen so do the same thing and limit it

[@andersjjensen]

@@IDK-gh4st No. I'm going to stick with the card I have, and when it cant do what I want I'll shop for a 300W card max. Cutting 18% off the power resulted in a ~8% performance reduction because the XTX is already pushed pretty hard. Cutting 25% of a card that's going to be stupid expensive is.... stupid.

[@senti2175]

​@@andersjjensenThe newer cards will always perform few times more with same watts as previous gen card. So 5080 will probably perform at least 2 times more with 300w than your card at same watts. Performance/watt always decreases with each generation.

[@andersjjensen]

@@senti2175 Yes, I know how chip lithography work. I've built PCs since the early 90s.

[@xDrezi]

sadly I dont see Nvidia cutting prices especially since AMD is now out of the high end market, so theres no more competition in that regard anymore.

[@balthorpayne]

Even if they did have competition, people love Nvidia and give them all the justification they need. Not to mention Nvidia is orders of magnitude larger than AMD. Its a consumer problem as much as a competition problem.

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

This is ignoring the fact that Nvidia doesn't care about consumer graphics at all now. Until the AI bubble bursts it doesn't matter if every single gamer stops buying Nvidia forever.

[@vvhitevvizard_]

@xDrezi, it is time for anti-trust committee to look into it

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@vvhitevvizard_ They're too busy goading Putin into nuclear war.

[@__-fi6xg]

the perfect monopoly for nvidia, in AI and now in gaming, thats how you become the richest company in the world

[@jay-rus4437]

5090 going to be $2500?

[@vuri3798]

2500 at launch* Without any AMD competition that wouldn't even surprise me

[@adriancioroianu1704]

Too steep. I guess 2k is enough, Jensen is a rich boi anyway because of the AI hype. The fact that 4090's haven't dropped at all in price the whole lifecycle is scary though.

[@Shuttterbugg]

Yes probably 2000. And u guys will buy it up..what's sad..and no competition to bring price down this run eitber

[@vuri3798]

@@adriancioroianu1704 At this point the only time Nvidia remembers what "enough" means is when they see 8gb of VRAM Now in all seriousness, I think you'd be surprised. It would be much easier to ask for $2500 (or even $3000) from people who can already afford $1800 GPUs, rather than convincing the average consommer to drop $800 instead of $600.

[@UnsettlingDwarf]

But why not 3000$

[@lovesunset1703]

16gb? wtf

[@trackingdifbeatsaber8203]

16gb would be good for the 5070 as I think its a reasonable amount for my 7800 xt as highest usage I have had is 13.4. but on a 5080 yeah its sad

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@@trackingdifbeatsaber8203at what resolution

[@trackingdifbeatsaber8203]

@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br hard to say I think just above 1440P although I have seen 1080P look sharper it was blurry in motion my monitor is 4k (3840 x 2160) although ark survival ascended forces upscaling and it lies to you with what % scale its running at. It was claiming 70% which should be 2688 x 1512. I was using the medium preset with foliage and textures and view distance at max. edit I was using the taau instead of FSR as its artifacts are in some ways less bad, sometimes the game chooses 60% res scale so it might of been 2304 x 1296.

[@DemiSupremi]

@@trackingdifbeatsaber8203 So you ran a shitty Palworld clone at 4k? Dawg just play a good game.

[@trackingdifbeatsaber8203]

@@DemiSupremi its a remake of a game that came out a few years before palworld. and as I mentioned it was either running slightly above or below 1440P no where near 4k edit 2017 for ark survival evolved full realse, and I left a review of it back in 2016

[@TheSpawnTrapper]

16 GB for a 5080 makes me nervous all of the 5070 cards that come out are still gonna be 12 GB. Unless you get some 5070 Ti/Super.

[@jmangames5562]

And it will follow suit and be just a bit slower than a 4080. They do not want to give you that performance if your not paying 1k or more, even though they can easily and have in all past generations. There showing there colors more and more now they got Ai and don't need gamers. Don't support it. In my opinon it should be illegal.

[@TheDarksideFNothing]

Guess I'm waiting another gen to upgrade.

[@mobarakjama5570]

@@TheDarksideFNothing The story of my life, gonna stick by my 3060 for 2 more years it seems.

[@MainChannel1999]

​@@TheDarksideFNothingI got a 1060 3GB hang in there soldier

[@Rspsand07]

Bet it'll be 8 or 10 gb 5070 Remember they wanted to launch a 4080 12 gb for 900$ this gen until blowback.

[@georgiospappas]

I see a lot of space for a 5080ti and 5080 super. the 5080 looks like its getting nerfed.

[@la7era1u54]

This 80 series card would be a 70 series in previous generations. They are calling it an 80 series to get people to pay more for it. Nvidia loves to use manipulation with their naming to squeeze more money from the customer

[@cks2020693]

that's exactly the purpose of 5080, to promote 5080Ti/Super, just like the 4070 --> 4070 Super and 4070 Ti -->4070 Ti Super BS

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@cks2020693 If they want to sell cards they should make good cards.

[@leec3881]

You forgot 5080ti super... Still plenty of space... ti super-duper rip off.

[@gameurai5701]

It's basically the 4080 (12gigs) version of the upcoming gen aka 4070 TI, but with AMD not going higher end they can get away with it this time.

[@03chrisv]

Considering the 5090 specs, the 5080 seems like it should be a 5070 based on the specs. It's literally half of a 5090 in every way. The performance gap is simply too big. Hopefully this is wrong.

[@luminance69]

its further from the 90 class than the 3070 was.

[@12coco100]

Half the bandwidth, half the memory bus, half the cuda cores, half the SMs and half the Vram. So half the price? If the 5090 in $2400 then the 5080 is $1200, then nvidia will think this is a fair price. Even though the 90 series card got a increase by 50%. so that means the 80 series card gets a 50% increase in price too. I think your right this should be a 5070 if you look at the whole line up together, maybe this could be a 5070ti is things where fair. I think they might be leaving room for decent upgrade for a SUPER revision a year later when RDNA 5 comes out I guess.

[@andersjjensen]

AMD is not competing in the high end this generation. Last time that happened was RTX 20. The "RTX 2090" was $2500 (back then they called the 90 cards Titan, but since gamers ignored them they moved them to the GeForce moniker). It was around 20% stronger than the $1000 2080ti, which in 2018 was considered even steeper than the original $1200 for the 4080. Nvidia has no doubt learned their lesson from RTX 30. People stopped buying the 3090/3090ti the second the crypto crap stopped. The high budget gamers will only pay absurd money if the performance delta is there. And speaking of the 80ti class: That's your explanation for the big disparity here. Nvidia is probably still figuring out what exactly it should be, but 500W, 24GB and 15k cores seems like a fair guess. If they over-charge for the 5090 and it isn't selling the 5080ti could be 17k cores. If the 5090 is selling but the 5080 isn't, then they can always introduce the 5080ti with 16GB and 12k cores at the 5080s original price. But however they decide to slice it one thing is certain: You're in for another complete milking.

[@BigHeadClan]

I’ve been saying this is exactly what Nvidia would be doing the second the released a 3070 under the 3080 name last generation. And here we are everything is down a level in performance but up in price. Nvidia is going to sell a 5070 GPU for $1000 instead of the $400 it should be and its market will happily hand over the money.

[@PierceGibbss]

It would be absolutely insane if true , but knowing nvidia its possible. they would possibly price it around 1200-1500 for the 5080 and double the cost of that for the 5090.

[@mattydemisestreams]

Yeah, NVIDIA not including a 24GB memory buffer on the 5080 is anti-consumer and it’s just their way of trying to see how much they can nerf the higher end cards and still charge a premium for them.

[@12coco100]

They are raising the price for their whole line up, this thing is a 5070ti like card. For $1200 I'm guessing. Remember they tried to sell the 4070 ti for $900?

[@andersjjensen]

Which part of Nvidia's prior 30 years in the GPU market has given you the notion than Nvidia is anything BUT anti-consumer and anti-competition? Is it that they lost both Microsoft and Apple as hardware partners after trying to screw them over? Is it the insane patent litigation that made everyone else but ATI and Matrox go out of business? Is it the court conviction of price fixing? Is it that they tried to get a patented technology, without disclosure, into an open standard?.... While being on the board of trustees of that standards organization? Is it that they've tried numerous times to get proprietary technologies implanted in the PC ecosystem, that is otherwise driven by open standards (PhysX, patented texture formats, their own GPU language, their own proprietary RT library, DLSS, etc)? On a long enough timeline EVERYONE ends up hating Nvidia. But because the industry as a whole does not come together to properly gank them, they always manage to make themselves indispensable... so people rage, shake their fist, sigh... and then cough up. Just say no man.

[@Cam_Wight]

It's planned obsolescence, plain and simple

[@robertgórecki-x3s]

Exponential pricing value* metric marketing as much I don't like it they may do what ever they want. I won't buy it, worst thing is KZbinrs will always talk about it as point of reference 😂 which is hard to dodge for some young easily to impress costumers. And the end of the day 400 gbp gpu with 40 bilion of transistors and 16gb of vram would be good. And that is my unseen mystical halo product I will compare all of the new products for next 3 years.

[@syncmonism]

There is a good chance that they will actually make a 24GB version of the 5080 at some point, because apparently there will soon be higher density memory chips available which they will be able to drop into the same design, using the same memory bus. When will they release such a model? And how much will it cost? I have no idea, but if the 16GB 5080 doesn't sell well, that is more likely to happen sooner, and the price is more likely to be at least somewhat reasonable. Personally, I would consider holding out for a potential 18GB version of the 5070, or from one of the nearest equivalents from AMD. I definitely would stay way from the 12GB version of the 5070, assuming that's the first version of the 5070 which launches, which seems likely at this point. The more patient consumers are, the more prices will fall.

[@cks2020693]

I bet there is a RTX 5080Ti 24GB 384-bit and the only purpose of RTX 5080 16GB 256-bit is to promote the 5080Ti.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Yeah because we total got a 4080ti this generation oh wait.

[@gameurai5701]

@@ZackSNetwork What logic is that? Not to mention, we had the 4080 Super.

[@TheSwayzeTrain]

The 4080 Super was pretty much the exact same card as the 4080. It was in essence a name change so that they could drop the price of the 4080 and save face.

[@syncmonism]

@@gameurai5701 While I'm sure Nvidia will want to sell lots of 5080s, I believe it will be possible to actually use higher density 3GB memory chips on the same sized 256-bit bus, making a 24GB version of the 5080 entirely feasible. I've already seen a leak regarding a laptop GPU with this exact configuration (though it will be called an RTX 5090, because that's what they do with laptop versions of their GPUs), but that doesn't mean that there will ever be a desktop variant with the same memory configuration.

[@chewychewjr]

congrats on 200K

[@sweenie2926]

ngl i thought this was bout the price of the 5090

[@izcondoralexander]

if 5080 having 16gb vram, 5070 definitely wouldnt get 16gb vram. AMD, I guess you are my next gpu brand

[@mikeymaiku]

lol didnt amd already state they are not focusing on top end performance?

[@mattwilson9293]

I picked up an open box 7900xtx for $700 in August 2023, and it's been by far the best card and best value over time for any pc component I've ever bought. There is zero chance I'll need to upgrade until at least a 5080ti or 6000 series comes out.

[@LprogressivesANDliberals]

If the 5070 has 12 gbs of vram for 800$+ I will be upset

[@vuri3798]

@@mikeymaiku Yes, but a 5070 isn't top end. 12gb for such a price isn't an upsell, it's a dealbreaker

[@vvhitevvizard_]

@@mikeymaiku the majority doesn't need xx80 or xx90 class GPU anyways

[@la7era1u54]

This 80 series card would be a 70 series in previous generations. They are calling it an 80 series to get people to pay more for it. Nvidia loves to use manipulation with their naming to squeeze more money from the customer

[@BlackJesus8463]

Yup! The cost difference of the silicon is a few dollars they could do a 16GB 5090 for gamers and let creators have more vram.

[@kunka592]

Unfortunately, AMD has already done this as well.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Yet those 80 class GPU’s that should be 70 class can compete with AMD’s halo products.

[@TheGoreforce]

never did a next gen other than one generation a 70 series card be 10% faster than the halo of the previous gen.

[@arch1107]

that and to make the ti model look even better and justify price increase for extra ram and like 8% extra performance, and leaves space for a ti super later if they feel like they need to and market has room to grow

[@Behindthescene-z6b]

Nvidia, when it sees no competition around, is gradually increasing prices. At the same time, it’s making sure there’s a significant gap in the performance between its first and second products, forcing people to choose the more expensive option since there’s no alternative. If that’s truly the case, the only solution left is to boycott the company and stop buying from them. I hope this leaks be wrong

[@uther10]

What kind of regular person is gonna be able to afford a freaking 5090 let alone the price for the5080. Nvidia has no competition and the price will be astronomical.

[@thillyard1]

@@uther10 A regular person doesn’t likely need a 5090. Or probably even a 5080. I have a 4080 and , honestly, it’s more than I really need for my gaming needs bug I paid $800 for it. I just don’t see me jumping to the 50 series unused there is something revolutionary they give us.

[@vvhitevvizard_]

Yeah, it is time for anti-trust committee to look into it

[@timmyv148]

Someone with savings…I’ll just sell my 4080 if the 5090 is 1500-1700

[@Hammercannon]

@@timmyv148 ill sell my 4090 if its 1500-1700 and its as performant as the leaks lead me to believe

[@timmyv148]

@@Hammercannon I hope it’s not above 2k that’s all I’m really asking from lord Jensen 😳

[@Bobis32]

I was hearing 1600 for 5080 and 2200 for 5090 as the plan back in July when I met with some Nvidia staff at a furry convention

[@Chicken-o5e]

😂😂😂

[@AsianLing]

Real asf 😂

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

i was hearing 1000 for the 5080

[@radeonbenchmarks2024]

2025: well to run this game you need a 5080 for 1080p 60fps medium, yes, with frame gen on🤡🤡🤡

[@lamikal2515]

"Stop being poor, uPsCaLing is tHe FuTuRe!!!111!!!1!"

[@mikeramos91]

@@lamikal2515you can only go so far with up scaling. You still need the horses to push it

[@lamikal2515]

@@mikeramos91 Maybe I should have added an army of "/s" after my statement... I thought the quotes and the writing would have been enough...

[@Drewkungfoo]

@@lamikal2515 its only about raw performance. J2C said, Those Upscaling and DLSS and FrameGen SHOULD BE OPTIONAL and NOT NEEDED BY DEFAULT

[@lamikal2515]

@@Drewkungfoo SAR-FEKKIN-CASM. Thanks for the daily reminder of why I hate people.

[@Sideritis]

*Congratulations on 200k subscribers! Keep shining!* 👍

[@Hexenkind1]

The big question of all of that is: How much will all of this cost? I fear the worst.

[@eldritchtoilets210]

2.5K for the 5090 and 1.2K for the 5080. Calling it!

[@arch1107]

@@eldritchtoilets210 you are being very optimistic there, i expect bigger numbers, 200 dollars more on each more or less, the sky is the limit remember, the more you buy, the more you save

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

@@arch1107 200 dollars more on each is 1200 you genius. The 4080 super costs 1000. People like you here are actually delusional it is insane. "the more you buy, the more you save" - which can totally be true if you have to run complex stuff and you are time constraint. So not sure why you say that sarcastically here

[@eldritchtoilets210]

@@arch1107 True, I also expect scalper armageddon to inflate prices even further for the first 3-4 months after these things release.

[@haukionkannel]

Don`t worry, the. Ore you pay, the more you save! 😂 5080 will be $1500 and 5090 $2500. And NVIDIA market share will go up from 86% it has now!

[@robertlawrence9000]

If that's true, the 5080 looks anemic 💀 They probably want a large gap between 5080 and 5090 so they can sell you the 5080 Super, 5080 ti and 5080 ti super 💀💀💀

[@ZackSNetwork]

Dude the 4080 Super is only %4 faster than a 4080 lol.

[@koroneiki6041]

@@ZackSNetwork the point of the 4080 super was to lower the msrp

[@sir1junior]

​@@koroneiki6041That was only because people realized how horrible the value was compared to the 4090, oh and let's not forget how they played with the tiers last time.

[@Karn0010]

I can see the 50 series pricing now, $2500 for the 5090, $1500 for the 5080. The shame is there will be people who run out and buy them thus continuing the cycle.

[@Thunderhawk51]

And then comes 5080 Ti or with 20GB followed by 5080 Super or Ti Super with 24GB costing 1700 and 1900 respectively.

[@ZackSNetwork]

False $2,000 for 5090 and $1,000 for 5080.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

Yes people will buy what they want. Stop complaining

[@techsamurai11]

The market share of 4080 and 4090 is very small. 5080 and 5090 will be in a museum.

[@TheGoreforce]

the rumor is 899-999, this isn't the best 80 card.

[@gidedin]

400W... jfc... I wont ever be getting a new GPU again. With power prices getting to almost 1 usd to 1kwh where I live (in my currency, not really USD), those GPUs means I will have an absud huge energy bill...

[@polarvortex6601]

yup and they talk about being eco-friendly to "save the earth" ha!

[@vvhitevvizard_]

yup. RTX 4060, RTX 4070 super are much more power efficient and last longer

[@lulalelilo]

Yeah, looked for a comment like this. 600w is insanely absurd. If solar panels were free i'd take it but yeah it's also going to be super expensive using this card.

[@tottorookokkoroo5318]

Tbf if energy costs are an issue you probably shouldnt be buying a top end gpu anyways. You can always just power limit the cards if you want to save electricity aswell. 4000 series cards were extremely power efficient no reason to think 5000 would not be aswell.

[@mojojojo6292]

@@lulalelilo There's no chance the 5090 uses 600w. These leaks are nonsense. They said the same thing about the 4090. The cooler might be rated for 600w, the card will be 400-450w usage tops.

[@K3Vz0]

The 5080 only having half the cores as the 5090 and only having 16gb vram is making me think it's fake or atleast wrong

[@jameyt1]

Nah seems like NVIDIA’s strategy to me. They want to milk the 5090 as much as possible and make the other cards terrible value

[@DuckButtGoesKwekKwek]

It's been leaked for a while that the 5080 will stay at 16gb

[@mattzun6779]

If the 5090 is really a 3000 dollar AI card, it makes perfect sense. AI cards need more VRAM, gamers don't.

[@tomgreene5388]

Making sure the 5080 ti will fit in the line up.

[@userblame632]

Right, it seems like someone saw NVIDIA combine two gpus in their grace blackwell chip and thought, hurr durr obviously theyll do that in the consumer space too! Lets also double the vram and the bus width for the 5090!!! (even though vram and bus width wouldnt necessarily be doubled since the vram isnt on the chip like HBM is). If the 5090 is also just two 5080s combined that would mean it would be at least twice the cost of a 5080. If we assume the 5080 is the same price as a 4080 super ($1000), the 5090 would be at least 2K, maybe even more if NVIDIA deems having double the vram on a single card is worth a premium.

[@kaecatlady]

If true, that proposed performance gap between the 5090 and the 5080 is plain old insulting. And no, I don't want to see any nonsense about "'room' for a 5080 ti".

[@BlackJesus8463]

Yeah but that 80 is going to hold the TiS price slot until Nvidia can find enough defective 90s. lol

[@Noqtis]

They could fit an entire generation in that room or even two O_o

[@arch1107]

what about the super, and the super ti you forgot half of the market, they might make ultra, ti ultra, imagine the posibilities!

[@justinway153]

There is no reason a 5080 will be less than 1200-1400, there is zero competition at 4090 perf level.

[@BlackJesus8463]

XTX was already launched when Nvidia had to rework their whole lineup because people weren't buying.

[@KraszuPolis]

Would make no sense at price, 4090 will likely be better + more vram. Even without competition price/performance affects sales. I remember when Intel had no competition, but they sales were low because ppl just didn't feel it was worth upgrading. New AMD cpu aren't selling great either despite all the intel issues.

[@TheGoreforce]

the price rumors is 899 or 999 because they actually want to sell this.

[@SemperValor]

It will sell regardless the price. Nvidia knows they're the ones who are needed. They don't need anyone anymore. You NEED Nvidia.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

@@SemperValor i wont why do you think the 4080 super was 1000 and not 1200 like the 4080. Not so smart fella are you?

[@homerthompson416]

Jeez the cut down to 4080 was bad enough. It's actually getting worse? I don't see the point for paying top dollar for gpus right now when AAA gaming is such a crapshow these days. I remember when half the flagship was considered 60 series not fucking 80.

[@MandoMTL]

Still cheap with VRam. Crazy.

[@SDRaygon]

Its so odd to see you have 200k subs now, I think you had less than 10k when I first found you, its well deserved btw!

[@IstyManame]

ok AMD and Intel gotta step up their game cuz nvidia's going downhill with those price to performance ratios

[@haukionkannel]

NVIDIA market share will increase from current 86% to allmost 90%… just mark my word… 😢

[@rrekki9320]

Why should they? So you can buy Nvidia anyway?

[@danielainger]

AMD has pulled out of the high end market, Intel are years behind.

[@IstyManame]

@@danielainger that's exactly why they need to improve

[@IstyManame]

@@anonymousanonym450 ?

[@valentinosgsxr]

Congrads for the 200K mate. You deserve it.

[@kythik]

Daniel, the "!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!1one!!!1111!!!!!1337!" made this old MMO raider happy.

[@alfredocha3886]

consider posting these as podcasts smewhere, I'd love to hear you while I commute to work

[@zackfair_og]

If you want the true 50xx experience, get a 5090, otherwise get a 4090 instead of the 5080. The 24GB VRAM will be crucial in 4k gaming.

[@ridleyroid9060]

Can I just get a $300 GPU that's gonna actually run stuff at 1080p? I'm poor but I don't think Im asking for too much.

[@2psah2]

@@ridleyroid9060 Buy the 5020. lol.

[@zhazhahou]

It actually depends on how the dlss4 will be like with 50series

[@TonnyKrain]

"Get" let me just sell my liver, give me 5 min

[@OrangetillDeath13]

What about 2k? Would a 5080 be better value for that?

[@RurouTube]

5080 probably will be around 20% faster vs 4080 with 30% faster max depending on how much they are willing to push the clock since they will get there mainly by increasing the clock speed, thus the wattage increase vs 4080. We will not get an increase like 30 to 40 series. Nvidia got that big increase because of moving fabs from Samsung to TSMC. Basically because of Samsung, 30 series clock is relatively low while at the same time draws a lot of power. Moving to TSMC allowed them to increase the clock by a lot. This time, even with better node, I don't think you can get that big of a jump. Remember that 3080 boost clock is only 1.7GHz while 4080 is 2.5GHz! That is like 47% clock increase and it actually tracks with 4080 performance increase relative to 3080 which is around 49% faster while having 11.7% more cores according to TPU (yes, in general, 40 series cuda core actually have performance regression vs 30 series at same clock and it being masked by new features). If 5080 has 10% more cores than 4080 then it will be around 10% faster if the clock is the same (assuming no performance regression). Push the clock 10% more then you have 5080 that is around 21% faster. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia pushed the clock more than 10% vs 4080, thus potentially 30% faster. I doubt it will be cheaper tho. There is no free transistor nowadays. More cores, more transistor, more expensive, even if the transistor is smaller (if you only use the transistor for logic than it should be slightly cheaper per transistor, but since there are a lot of analog stuff in a chip and those have a harder time being made smaller thus ended up costing more to make on smaller node which you ended up with an overall more expensive chip). Of course if Nvidia is feeling generous they probably can take less margin on 5080 vs 4080 at launch since at $1200, it definitely had a ton of margin there.

[@JGAbstract]

Hehe I'm selfishly hoping the 5080 isn't that big of a gap from the 4080 super so my value doesn't plummet

[@jameyt1]

they won’t. NVIDIA is going to sell a 5080ti with the same performance as a 4090 for the same MSRP. If they do this then Ada cards won’t lose value at all

[@elysian3623]

@@jameyt1 Depends on AMD really, if RDNA4 is a hit and gives similar performance for less money they impact the market because the used cards usually have to be cheaper than a new alternative to be worthwhile to a consumer looking at that price range.

[@WillParker322]

Buying pc parts for value retension is bad financials

[@Eleganttf2]

​@@elysian3623 bahaha you really think RDNA4 will have any impact towards Blackwell ? And why would it affect 5080 when top end RDNA4 will only be equivalent to 7900 GRE/4070 Super

[@darkfire3691]

@@elysian3623 nothing depends on AMD at all. They will compete with 5070. Far from 5080.

[@HardyDimension]

Congratulations, Daniel~ I followed your channel when you have around 50-60k subscribers if not mistaken😊😊

[@MrMeanh]

5080 $1199-$1299 and 5090 $1999+ if these specs are true.

[@B_Machine]

I wouldn't be surprised if the price difference ends up being a grand.

[@jmangames5562]

@@B_Machine yup but closer to 1400-2500

[@Greenalex89]

Scalpers will buy them off in an instant and there wont be 5090 for months..2000+ dollars is more realistic

[@TheGoreforce]

the rumor is 899 or 999...

[@sir1junior]

Nah I def think the 5080 could be 1.3K

[@magnusnilsson9792]

Congrats on 200k subs Mr. Owen

[@Ruinya]

Can't wait for the 1500W 7090. I'll experience Arizona in the summer, and Florida in the winter.

[@perpetualprocrastinator]

😃😄😂🤣

[@fueledgti]

Happy 200k followers! 🎉 well deserved

[@CherryColaWizard]

The 5080 should have 20 or 24gb of memory. I'm sure Nvidia will end up releasing a 5080ti with more VRAM, just to make people who by the 5080 feel like schmucks.

[@haukionkannel]

No it does not! They want to sell 5090 instead!

[@faizannabi7540]

I'm expecting the jacket guy will put a price of my both kidneys and other parts now for 5000 series.

[@HeliumFreak]

5080 16gb? Another generation im skipping. I went from upgrading to an 80 card every generation for the past.. 15 years? To akipping thr 40 and now 50 series. Nvidia really dont want my money

[@murtazataha7177]

You think they care lol

[@mikeymaiku]

@@murtazataha7177 every one complains, but seems like they just go back anyway. every builder in my area refuses to use amd cards. litterally the only thing for sale in my are are 20/30 series RTX cards. yet the ones selling amd cards are still trying to sell rx 6600 for 250-300.... or the rx 580 for 100 lol

[@vvhitevvizard_]

@@mikeymaiku I'm sorry but RX 6600 costs around 200 euros NEW. 140 euros (second hand). RX 580 8GB costs around 50 euros (second hand)

[@mikeymaiku]

@@vvhitevvizard_ oh i forgot to add canadian currency sorry i dont magicly speak everyones local currency :( Doesnt change the fact i see 90-125 canadian rx 580s for sale here

[@emma6648]

@@mikeymaikucap

[@firexallst4rz277]

Wow AMD is looking even better when it comes to VRAM.

[@mobarakjama5570]

AMD is the reason we're in this mess to begin with.

[@mojojojo6292]

And worse in every other aspect.

[@joee7452]

Your talking about the company that is saying they are giving up the high end? I hope they change their mind, but you could put 64g VRAM on a card, if the rest of the card is mid range then you have a ton of ram that won't help the card push higher graphics. 16g on a 4060 makes is decent for what it is (I am not talking price, just performance level). It's doesn't turn it into a 4080 or 7900XTX level card just because the ram went up. I still hope that AMD will change their mind but if AMD really cuts down on the high end and the 5080 does come in with the performance the are talking about at 1000 dollars (Not the 1200 over priced crap like the 4080), they are just going to make Nvidia look like the undisputed best and that will hurt them. AMD makes great CPUs and GPUs, I really hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot. Perception to those not in the "know" is important.

[@dakbassett]

@@joee7452 you are being silly. 5080 at 16gb isn't good enough to cut it. 20 or 24gb would be fair.

[@firexallst4rz277]

@@mobarakjama5570 Bruh 24gbs of vram for what 800 bucks or so yea i will take that. But only 16 gbs of VRAM for a 5080?? lol dont make laugh

[@the_monarch2172]

I seriously love your content, Teach. I could listen to you for hours.

[@Kie-7077]

kopite7kimi has been played, I don't expect these rumours to be true, bus width, memory difference, number of cores all the differences between 5080 and 5090 are too extreme.

[@QwoaX]

If the 5080 has 16GB, there will probably be a 24GB 5080 Super (or Ti or whatever) as a mid-generation refresh.

[@blue_wolf2077]

Hopefully AMD can improve their upscaling and ray-tracing.

[@arch1107]

amd will not waste money and time to compete with 5080 and higher, they will aim at under 5080, the rest will be apus, like the rumored z2, amd will focus on that type of units socketed or soldered, the rest will be for servers, amd doesnt get money from the rest nvidia doesnt get much money from the 90 series, is just a market flagship type of product to promote the rest of models that do make money for the ammount of units they sell, nvidia doesnt sell apus and cpus yet, so they limit themselves to some markets

[@stanislavkimov2779]

@@arch1107 until PS6 comes out, why would we want anything stronger than 4080? It can provide 4K 60fps (with upscaling). Having more for more than 1000$ GPU fits not that many people.

[@DragonBane299]

congrats on the 200k milestone!

[@GoodManAman]

I’ll suggest you mark my words - RTX 5080 will show at most 30% increase over 4080 (and would avg close to 20%) but will be priced more than $1200.

[@jmangames5562]

Agree, and mark my words it won't sell for shit....again. So why even make it? just make the 5070 and 5090 because nobody who knows anything is buying a 5080 that is not faster than the 4090. All past generations the 80 series handily beat the 90 series from last gen. It is not about China either they can just sell a 5070 to them, it is Ai and they don't care about the people who built there company. If they do this I will never support them again.

[@TheGoreforce]

The rumors is 899-999

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

it will be better than that. Especially considering you can get a 4080 super for 1000 usd

[@michaelangst6078]

I will bet you even money the card won't be more than $999.99. How do you want to set up a bet?

[@dadsteps]

Well done on the 200k! 🎉

[@sinfatus]

Why would nvidia charge 1600 dollars for the 5090 if they know that people will easily pay 2k or more for it???? Now the 80 series is considered mid range card. Great nvidia! Can't wait for the 8Gb 5060, and 12Gb 5070.

[@Scorptice]

last line is cursed

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

calling a 80 series card midrange is certainly shows critical thinking

[@Scorptice]

@@_qwe_fk_1700 That's what they are offering us, though. NVidia is nerfing the 80 to mid range in order to upsell a ti/super variant

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

@@Scorptice bro the 4080s is easily a 4k card, there is nothing midrange abotu that.

[@Scorptice]

@@_qwe_fk_1700 it's really not. The 4080 struggles on native 4k needing dlss and FG to hit 60s on 4k for the newest titles that is. Although I blame the games more than the card tbf

[@Goose683]

congrats on 200k

[@Souliss24]

Have a good friend that's works for Nvidia but not in design. He as out right laughed at a 600w consumer grade gpu. He has always been right

[@mojojojo6292]

He's right. There's no way that thing uses 600w. The cooler is probably rated for 600w with the card using 450w tops. Same for the 5080, 400w capable cooler, 320w or so usage.

[@lycanthoss]

​@mojojojo6292 people were laughing at the 4090 having a 450-600W TDP, but the 4090 only loses like 9% performance when going from 450W to 300W IIRC. Like with any new CPUs/GPUs, if you want efficiency you have to power cap because they all push way more power for very little gains.

[@yeiskelcisneros2298]

It's always refreshing to hear your opinions on the GPU market

[@Usersf134ssk]

600 freaking wattts then still cling on to DLSS and Frame Gen? I dont really care I can only afford a 3050 😂

[@quantum5661]

i hope the 50 and 60 class cards finally get 8gb+

[@Usersf134ssk]

@@quantum5661 indeed! Im now at 5600XT with 6GB of Vram 🤣 and cant even enable High texture on the game I play, it wont let me toggle it. 😆 Not sure about other games tho. I was about to get an rx 7800xt but will wait til next year when the new gen cards from AMD and nvidia arrives.

[@quantum5661]

@@Usersf134ssk with some luck intel will come in swinging and everyone else will panik double their vram

[@stevenanderson3205]

Congratulations on 200.000 subs

[@ainstolkiner2063]

why would they drop the prices? There will be even less competition at the high end

[@lharsay]

Because currently the demand for gaming GPUs is quite low and people wouldn't buy it.

[@zeNUKEify]

Kopite also said the 5090 is 2 slots. REALLY excited to see what Jensen is cooking there

[@txkingg]

I just want 4090 performance for under 280w. 😭

[@ume-f5j]

Sadly I don't think a 3090 ---> 4070 Super situation will ever happen again.

[@VatiWah]

if 4090 production was stopping, that means 5080 being 20GB or even 24GB wouldn't compete with the 4090 sales.

[@123TheCloop]

those 5080 specs are a yikes........ same memory capacity, same bus. 11% core improvement along side at best a 20% bandwidth increase, your probs looking at ide say 15% if im being generous, that 5080 looks like what a 4080Ti should have been

[@grospoulpe951]

200k subscribers: congrats!! 😊👍

[@Patrick-tw7nr]

Nvidia bending over PC gamers once again and will still be flocking to buy these without a thought. 5090 is going to be only one worth getting at launch. I’ll wait for a 5080S or TI with hopefully 24GB of VRAM I’ll just get the PS5 PRo as that will be a much better value than what Nvidia is selling

[@ume-f5j]

If you already have a high-end 40 series card, there's no value in buying a high-end 50 series card regardless. You are right about waiting for the Super as it was a huge increase in value for the 4080 and the 4070.

[@Patrick-tw7nr]

@@ume-f5j yeah I got a PC that will be slightly slower than a PS5 Pro which is an AMD 3700X and 3070. It is coming on 5 years old and I want my next build to last me another 5-7 years so I want something that will be stronger than a PS6 as I’m pretty sure the PRO will be my last console If Sony goes all digital only next generation and they continue to release their games on PC a year or less after console. I only buy physical games on Sony so if they get rid of it, that want for me to buy on their platform goes and I love Steam and my PC gaming library is mainly Steam, GOG and Epic(free games!!) so it’s not like I’m not opposed to a all digital future but I’m a physical media collector so I still love my physical media. With PC GPUs that are coming out that will run games better than a PS5 Pro costing 600 plus and even a 4070S barely beats it is not enough to warrant just a GPU upgrade. Tom truly get better performance than a current gen consoles, need at least a 4070Ti or 7900XT and above that shows a clear 30-40 percent bump because even after console optimizations, those midrange GPUs like 4060ti/4070/4070S and 7600/7700XT/7800XT will still have some issues running games with PS5 Pro settings due to the amount of optimizations those games will get on the console. The midrange GPUs will need more memory bandwidth, VRAM, higher clocks and lower power consumption and just not seeing it happening

[@apocalypseplease]

Great video again! Thank you. Once MSFS24 releases, do you think you could dive into its tech and benchmark it? We really lack people benchmarking MSFS2020 and same will probably happen with MSFS24

[@mimo5383]

Waiting on the 5090 so I can 120fps game on a 98" TV @ 4k.

[@MrAdhiSuryana]

Game developer: hold our port

[@FlyTimeRC]

@@MrAdhiSuryana just when you get a GPU capable they shit on it with next next level graphics 🤣

[@erickalvarez6486]

Potato graphics always got you.

[@sinfatus]

You know that the size of the tv doesn't matter right?

[@Ruinya]

MH Wilds: best I can do is 25fps, 4K ultra

[@justinroiland12]

You should be concerned about fake frame display, as this has become more common among GPU distributors. No one seems to have noticed that they are displaying 360FPS while real frames are around 240. Deceiving consumers has become increasingly common, as people tend to buy based on what they see rather than what they can actually experience.

[@SWOgottaGO]

5090 with 32GB is bull and if it isn't bull you know this card will have a $2500 MSRP and will go for $4k in the marketplace.

[@BAF-ch4ts]

At 600 watts, you will need to add the price of a new power supply as well for some users, like me. Oh well, I'll be looking for a used 4070ti super when the 5090 launches.

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@BAF-ch4tsIt’s not gonna push 600w your clueless.

[@TonnyKrain]

@@BAF-ch4ts you think 1k PSU will be enough ?

[@BAF-ch4ts]

@@TonnyKrain I am thinking 1200 to be safe.

[@HalcyonSunset]

Unless there's some insane clock speed bumps I'm finding it very hard to believe that a 5080 is gonna be 10% faster than a 4090.. Making up 6k cuda cores at less wattage with less bus width and less bandwidth? Yeah, think Kopite is smoking some amazing greenery.

[@cmoneytheman]

The 4070ti which I got is a monster,it's a cooler/better rt/better dlss version of the 3090,the 5080 might just be the same way from the 4090 which wouldn't be a bad thing

[@HalcyonSunset]

@@cmoneytheman yeah but the 4070ti is only down about 25% of the Cuda cores from a 3090 and it got basically a 50% clock speed boost.. The 5080 is down nearly 40% in Cuda cores and I just find it hard to imagine Nvidia will even match the kind of clock speed advancement they did last time.. That was a massive massive jump in clocks this last go around and they would need to have even higher clock jumps ratio wise to match, let alone exceed a 4090 for a 5080. Maybe they have a miracle up their sleeve again, not saying it's impossible, but man, they have a massive hill to climb if these numbers are correct

[@8Paul7]

5080 is going to be 1200 euros for sure. Expecting nVidia to lower prices when they have no meaningful competition and huge demand (if not from gamers, then from AI fad industry) is just naive.

[@wanshurst2416]

in germany the 5080 was 1500 on release. i expect quite the same this time.

[@tommax1626]

@@wanshurst2416 Die 4080 meinst du oder? Aber stimmt schon, ich habe mir jetzt eine 4080 Super für 1000 Euronen geholt, die günstigste Option auf Geizhals.

[@haukionkannel]

And market share just going up up!

[@neverenoughguitars8276]

This is worrying for anyone looking to buy a 5090 that isn't also very wealthy. I think Nvidia is pulling out all the stops performance wise to justify what is likely to be an astronomical price increase relative to current gen. I'm guessing $2299 msrp. Actual purchase price being $3000 minimum.

[@MarginalSC]

$5k after scalper tax

[@DeadlySins23]

5090 at 2k+ and 5080 around 1200+ USD

[@jmangames5562]

5080 will be no lower than 1400 watch

[@eldritchtoilets210]

@@jmangames5562 probably why they stopped production of 4090s so early. To keep 4090 performance levels at a premium price.

[@TheGoreforce]

the rumors is 899-999

[@michaelangst6078]

@@jmangames5562 I will give you 5 to 1 odds the 5080 will be less than $1399.99 MRSP. If the 5080 is $1399.99 or more you win $500. If it's less than $1399.99, I win $100. How do you want to set up the bet?

[@eliaserke5267]

Imagine selling the 5090 for $2k at launch. Sounds insane, right? Now imagine the next best option is a very much underspecced 5080 for $1k. The 5090 starts to sound like something you're gonna need...

[@Ted_Kenzoku]

Watch the 5070 have 8gb of ram

[@trackingdifbeatsaber8203]

I dont think that would sell well at all as 8gb is a limiting factor on cards like the rx 7600 and rtx 4060. That card would acquire an awful reputation as most games would run better on the 4070 and 70 tier cards seem to cost close to the previous generations 80 series so 8gb at 900 usd would be a bad look lamo.

[@vvhitevvizard_]

@@trackingdifbeatsaber8203 well, Ngreedia did 2060 12GB->3060 12GB->4060 8GB in the past.

[@firstnamelastname366]

I'm legit hoping the 5060 will have less than 8gb purely because it would be too funny

[@kunka592]

@@firstnamelastname366 Goddamn, I had 8GB of VRAM in 2016...

[@firstnamelastname366]

@@kunka592 yep 8 years, almost nine, and most are still stuck with 8gb at 1080p Wonderful

[@Workaholic42]

Congrats to 200k subscribers!!!1one!!!

[@daLiraX]

Nvidia figured since last time two 4080 didn't work that well, now they just gonna launch the lower x80 model instead of having to name it x70 ti after a community backlash.

[@ezg8448]

Unprecedented performance increase with an unprecedented price boost!!!

[@paco8526]

I hope those rumors are fake, 16GB for a 5080 would be atrocious, i mean its barely enough for 4K gaming, but the reason here its because for AI anything that is not a xx90 sku its VRAM starved, imagine a 5080 more powerful than a 4090, but you cannot use it to train complex models, because, if your workloads depends on 24-48-96GB of VRAM, 16GB are barely useful, so those folks (if they want to upgrade, lets be real here) will need to buy the 5090 or one of those super expensive AI oriented gpus instead, obviously this is a very specific scenario however i think that is the real reason why nvidia GPUs are so VRAM limited (unless its the xx90 one)

[@douglasmurphy3266]

They will unveil neural texture compression as the excuse for another gen of poor VRAM amounts, then release a 24GB 5080 later on after the 3GB chips hit, but it will cost a kings ransom.

[@Echo-Head]

Not to mention that any AI features like DLSS also eats up some VRAM, and with a 256 bit memory bus the 5080 stops looking appealing for 4K at all.

[@andreiga76]

From different sources on Internet, if they are true, 4090 is not made anymore and companies are selling only what is on stock, this could mean NVidia wants to replace 4090 with 5090 as a halo card (with +400$ MSRP), 5080 as a high-end card and all 4080/4070/4060 as mid until they will have enough silicon to replace them.

[@jmangames5562]

If the 5080 is gimped why even make it? It is such crappy value for money why make it? Tell ya what Nvidia just make your flagship 5090/titan and stop screwing gamers with gimped lower end GPU"s. There gonna learn like many others we don't want your garbage!! I will pass and go to AMD. Also a 5080 should beat the 4090 by atleast 30% or there really gimping it so they can make sure you have to spend 1600 and up for around 4090 performance. It is really unacceptable IMO. Ever generation the 80 series beats last gen flagship. Go do Ai we don't want your horrible offerings.

[@ChrisZukowski88]

well said.

[@grayavatar9766]

5090 5080 is gaming news for about 5% of us. The rest of us already know it is out of our budget range. If you really want to get me interested tell me about 5070 5060 .

[@kylekermgard]

Nvisia is going to abuse our wallets if AMD doesnt conpete

[@TonnyKrain]

there needs to be a new company working on AI GPU's something Xiaomi or i dont know Apple or Intel, somebody massive with innovative new technologies to compete with Nvidia. I dont think AMD has any more chances against nvidia, but i can say tho, that they have completely defeated Intel on the CPU market, so who knows.

[@n64slayer]

Congrats on 200k subs 😊

[@lolmao500]

Nvidia during cryptos : screw gamers, we re selling our gpus to miners before anyone else. Nvidia during AI : we're selling only to AI tech bros and 4090/5090 with insane profit margins. Nvidia fanboys : but but but prices are high we dont understand why!! Sane people : its because you idiots keep buying Nvidia no matter what. Thats why.

[@Lock2002ful]

If those vram numbers are correct, I’ll get the 5090 and have peace of mind for the next 5 years.

[@progressivemusic786]

There will be 5080 ti with 24gb vram

[@Thunderhawk51]

More like 20GB. 24GB is for 5080 Super or Ti Super. At which point it won't even matter anymore as it will cost about the same as 4090

[@TonnyKrain]

@@Thunderhawk51 Technically if you are a 1440p user, im pretty sure 16GB vram is more than enough. When you go 4k, thats when the game might be comsuming all of those 24gb, and maybe for future proof, even 32gb

[@Thunderhawk51]

@@TonnyKrain Yes, 16GB is enough for gaming--for now--but the price is the issue to get that 16GB let alone more.

[@HexerPsy]

6:51 I think you are missing the chip number here -- AD102 for the 4090 and the AD103 for the 4080. Before that, the 3090 were the good yields, and the 3080 were the bad yields of the same chip. That was the GA102 chip. In 3000 series, the GA103 was saved for the 3060Ti. Cards of 3070Ti and above were GA102 chips, and below that GA104 chips. In the 4000 series Nvidia decided to give the 4090 the top chip. And decided the weaker AD103 and AD104 would make up the high end cards above the 4070. This segmentation forced cards like the 4060Ti to have weaker chips than the 3060Ti.... Its just not the same card class anymore.

[@kashgarinn]

5090 will be $2500+, 5080 will be $1500+ There's no reason why Nvidia would price it lower especially with no competition at the top tier.

[@ArianTirgan]

Release for desktop or laptop only?

[@ScoutReaper-zn1rz]

Those that have a 4090 should stay with 4090. I am for at least 6 more years.

[@Thunderhawk51]

But does the connector stay with them, that's another question entirely 😅

[@mobarakjama5570]

@@Thunderhawk51 😂😂😭😭

[@NineS5]

@@Thunderhawk51 they do, it melts and infuses with the card.