6.5 PRC VS 270 WINCHESTER | Ballistics Comparison

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6.5 PRC VS 270 WINCHESTER
In this comparison video we compare the 6.5 prc to the 270 winchester. We go over the basic differences as well as ballistics. We talk about the 6.5 prc Hornady 143 eld x vs the Hornady 270 winchester 145 eld x ammunition.
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@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
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@colegaultney6115
@colegaultney6115 Жыл бұрын
Just found your video I am an eastern hunter and cannot see a deer at 500 yards No reason to buy a prc if you already own a .270 as no gain in performance or ammo availability for 300 yard hunters My 270 weathetby is my go to rifle
@dg20120
@dg20120 3 жыл бұрын
The 6.5 PRC looks like a great choice for competitive shooting but at reasonable hunting distances (
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
True i agree especially right now with ammo so expensive
@piorunpiorunowski5202
@piorunpiorunowski5202 3 ай бұрын
Few years back some People were exciting with 6.5 Norma BR which is almost the same to 6.5 PRC but no one use this ammo now for hunting, of course for long range shooting. 6.5 creedmoore is popular but distroys barrels almost the same like 6.5 X 55 SE
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 3 жыл бұрын
If you compare fast twist barrels with heavy for caliber VLDs, the two cartridges are ballistically nearly identical. They are within a grain or two of case capacity, with a slight advantage going to the PRC, and the G7 BCs of something like a 156 gr .264 caliber Berger EOL and a 170 gr .277 cal Berger EOL is within 2% of each other, again with the slight advantage going to the 6.5. I cut rifling for Proof Research and we have seen a substantial increase in number of .277s we send out the door since bullet manufactures have started introducing heavy for caliber VLDs and we have started cutting far more 8.4T than traditional 10T in that caliber. The .270 Win was hampered by slow twist and lighter bullets for years, but modern technology has caught up with it and if you use modern technology, like an 8.4T barrel and a 170 gr Berger, to compare it as a hunting cartridge to the 6.5 PRC, you end up having to decide for yourself if a slight advantage in velocity and energy (6.5 PRC) is enough to cancel out a slight advantage in bullet mass and diameter (.270 Win). Esp if you are putting the PRC in a .30-06 length action, they are for all practical intents and purposes identical when both are given benefits of modern technology.
@davidjohnston4122
@davidjohnston4122 2 жыл бұрын
When the 270 Win was invented, the big draw was a flatter shooting 30-06 with less recoil. But actually, no one cared for a long while. Even when Jack O'Connor started writing about the advantages no one cared, not immediately. People didn't start to care for the 270 Win until rifle scopes started to become affordable and popular in the mid 1960s and people started shooting 300-400 yards. You could say these new high-twist, high BC rounds are doing the same thing to the 270 Win but likewise, no one should really care for hunting since there are practical and ethical issues with shooting out 600-800 yards. Maybe someday we will have the technology to map what the wind is doing all along the 800+ yard route. But until we do that, no one can really be certain they can put a bullet in the vitals of an animal with more than 75% certainty at those ranges in hunting conditions with a single shot from a cold barrel. Snipers take these shots because, 1) They are professional, trained shooters with the best technology, and 2) If they miss, they can probably shoot again, and 3) If they wound someone and don't kill them, it's probably even better. These conditions don't apply to hunting. If you want to test your ability to shoot long range, shoot at steel. If you want to experience hunting, stalk the animal to within 300 yards and shoot them dead every time.
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjohnston4122 Found the Fudd. How do you guys always show up where you are not wanted, and how do you get to be so pretentious and self-righteous, like the hunting gods just anointed you as arbiter for hunting ethics? We have 17,000 year old cave paintings depicting your ancestors preaching ethics to the first users of the atlatl, "that isn't hunting, that is just sniping, why don't you get closer and poke them with your pointed stick like I do?" Every advancement in technology for thousands of years has been accompanied by the whining of a course of Fudds insisting we hold ourselves to their own arbitrary standards of hunting ethics. Guess what? We don't care. We never have. People don't spend thousands of dollars setting up a rifle, invest the time and money into developing a load and a skill set so that they can be lectured by some Fudd who bought a $400 rifle and scope combo at Walmart, and is still using the same box of Winchester Power Points he bought at a gas station in 2008. You only get to decide proper ethical hunting distances for you. There is plenty of people out there that can make an 800 yard shot more ethically than you can make a 400 yard shot.
@Manbunmen65
@Manbunmen65 6 ай бұрын
It's quite ironic and funny you say "hampered" by slow twist and lighter bullets. Only now is it hampered. No one was saying that until these kinds of comparisons started. And it's a tap dance. The 270 130 grain at 3060(I contest this speed also) in factory ammo was supposed to be the standard. Find me a gun magazine article starting 15 years ago and going back as far as you care too where they complain that the .270 is hampered by it's twist rate and ammo offering. You won't find it. .270 fan boys are tap dancing and are unwilling to admit what the .264s and especially the 6.5 PRC are capable of. Much more than it matters to me because I don't shoot long range, but the 6.5 PRC is superior at long range. I guess if you loaded those 200 grain or 170 whatevers in that .277 you can get similar sd and bc lol. Just look at Nosler reloading data and the numbers are not negotiable. It's the tap dancing that is hilarious. Just think, when I pull the trigger on my Bergara premier approach shooting factory federal 130 grain terminal ascent at a verified speed average of 3080 fps, when I cycle the bolt, I don't have to move my head...just like my Bergara .308.
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ 4 жыл бұрын
270 gets my vote. The minor advantages of the PRC are, well, minor. The 270, for hunting purposes, can shoot heavier weights and much more available offerings, and that matters. BC and velocity dont always tell the whole story. And you can really hot-rod that big beautiful 270 case if you handload.
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 6.5PRC... well because I didn’t have either, the rifle I wanted came in 6.5PRC, and I already had a stash of 6.5mm bullets.
@0-doller-bill923
@0-doller-bill923 3 жыл бұрын
@@chevyon37s can’t go wrong with it.
@warriorwarrior6999
@warriorwarrior6999 3 жыл бұрын
6.8 western is better than both.
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 жыл бұрын
@@warriorwarrior6999 not if you’re target shooting, the 6.5PRC has an ever so slight advantage in drop and wind deflection. Along with less recoil. So there, the 6.8 western is in fact not better than the 270 or 6.5PRC... depending on use.
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@warriorwarrior6999 well, if by more powerful, yeah. But now you’re steppin up basically to a magnum. The western is pretty close to 7mm RemMag
@rogeliofloresjr
@rogeliofloresjr 3 жыл бұрын
All this new “Long range” cartridges are the worst thing that ever happened to the hunting business. Most of the people can’t and should not shoot an animal over 500 yards. Wound an animal that most likely will die somewhere on the forest a few hours or days later with out been recovered it’s the consequence of those fantasy shots taken with this “long range “ calibers. If you’re a target shooter, sure, all this new caliber work perfect. Please do not take chances of wound and animal, be an ethical hunter. Do the right thing, one shot well placed at right distance.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are as much for target shooting info as hunting. I don't condon the unethical shots of game.
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 жыл бұрын
People don’t understand these new cartridges. The 6.5PRC was designed specifically for target use in PRS shooting matches where you’re limited to .308 cal, and 3200fps. So Hornady developed the 6.5PRC to stay within those constraints as well as be in a handy short action size and have tame recoil. So it’s great for that, and it just so happens to be a great hunting round as well. But certainly people think because a cartridge has good ballistics at long ranges they think it also does well on game. Not the case, and certainly shots should be limited and kept reasonable on game no matter the cartridge IMO.
@Notjay95
@Notjay95 3 жыл бұрын
You must have protested the invention of cars because of the additional risks that came with them.
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 3 жыл бұрын
@@Notjay95 no, he's just being more realistic.
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Advances in technology result in advances in capability. People are still obligated to practice, and to stay within their individual limitations, but any range limitation one tries to place for "ethical" shots on game is purely arbitrary. Some people are capable of taking more of an ethical shot at 800 yards than many hunters can at 200 yards. The technology is there to make these shots, we just need people to develop the skill set. This was as true when the .30-30 Win came out and brought "high velocity" jacketed bullets to the commercial market as it was in 1963 when the 7mm Rem Mag legitimized the magnum craze and today with the heavy for caliber VLD hunting bullets and ammunition marketed to "long range hunting."
@gabemcneil5221
@gabemcneil5221 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep my ol .270. The caliber has been killing stuff since 1925. Most people don’t shoot over 200 yards anyway. 6.5 is a great round though. But the ol 270 is tried and true.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
It works it works
@Cjtarinelli
@Cjtarinelli 3 жыл бұрын
Great review of these two fine cartridges. You hit the mark on every point. I have both of these, and I agree that at distances out to 500 yards there is no practical advantage for one or the other. I love both of my rifles, but for a one rifle hunter or beginner, I would recommend the .270 Win. for these reasons: It's been around forever and isn't going away, ever. On the other hand, the 6.5 PRC is so new, no one knows for sure if it is going to really catch on and establish itself as a "standard" cartridge - easy to find with lots of options. That being said, the 6.5 PRC is a great choice for hand loaders who can build their own ammo as they like. Happy and safe shooting!
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Good luck hunting this year
@leifhoklin2681
@leifhoklin2681 3 жыл бұрын
In reality, the PRC does nothing the .270 won't do in the hunting realm under ethical conditions.
@erinoconnor9306
@erinoconnor9306 11 ай бұрын
I agree and I got back and forth on most of my guns with that same thought. I like a variety but ultimately they serve a very similar purpose
@MrGoMario
@MrGoMario 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!!
@thomaslandreth5914
@thomaslandreth5914 4 жыл бұрын
It is nice someone took the time to compare the cartridges, thanks. The problem with the new trends is people think they can hunt at 800 + yards now. I am glad to see the trend to produce more bullets with high bc, this will improve all cartridges. When you see that at 500 yards there is only 100+ foot pounds difference between these two at a range that most should not be hunting at. I liked the 6.5 Remington Magnum when it came out in 1966 but you can't find it any more.
@paulmeek7964
@paulmeek7964 3 жыл бұрын
Going to try a 6.5 pro this year but my 270 with my reloads have already built a solid place in my safe
@johnganshow5536
@johnganshow5536 3 жыл бұрын
I don't hunt/shoot past 500 yards. I'm keeping my 270...
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
It works
@alphazulu0
@alphazulu0 3 ай бұрын
145 Eldx has 1000ft/lb at 700yards in a 22' barrel...with a good scope and the skills to match it's totally doeable
@jonathanmitchell3733
@jonathanmitchell3733 3 жыл бұрын
Leave this 500yard nonsense. Do the same comparison for normal hunting peeps, under 300 yards. Most people have difficulty hitting an animal over 300yards. ethical or not is not the point, the biggest majority of people just do not hunt at greater distances than 300yards
@0-doller-bill923
@0-doller-bill923 3 жыл бұрын
That’s probably the case in most areas. But It is nice to have the edge if there is a further shot. But truth be told some people just get to excited to take long range shots. as such.
@ez7977
@ez7977 3 жыл бұрын
Very few people can judge the drop of normal hunting rounds at 300. And after 300, all bullets start dropping exponentially making judging a longer shot extremely difficult, risky, and therefore inhumane. even with these fancy scopes these days (geez i sound old) turning the dial on a turret does nothing if you dont know what the drop of that exact cartridge/primer/powder/bullet combination produces. Then the hunter has to do the math to convert that to MOA or MILs on the fly…. Good luck!! 1 out of a couple hundred thousand hunters can do this and have the practice to be efficient.
@0-doller-bill923
@0-doller-bill923 3 жыл бұрын
@@ez7977 lucky for me I have a CDS hahhahhhah
@ez7977
@ez7977 3 жыл бұрын
0 -Doller-bill - hahahaha…. So do i. But if you actually bought into the customizable CDS turret for your cartridge instead of understanding ballistics and how temp., elevation, wind, and pressure effects bullet drop you are dumber than you think. And please dont shoot game past 300yds. You wont be accurate!! Basically CDS is a gimmick for people who dont know what they are doing!!
@sk8erdude1
@sk8erdude1 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us don’t wanna walk/drive that far either! Lol I can’t shoot my 6.5 prc.. cost of ammo Is too much
@tbabajan
@tbabajan 10 ай бұрын
Everyone in the comments has said it enough. The old 270 is an easy choice when the ammo is half the fuggin price, lol. I can go shoot $1.25 per round ammo alllllll day out to 300 no problem then swap to my hunting rounds, adjust my scope up 8 clicks and left 5 and I’m back to hunting.
@dondilley5075
@dondilley5075 4 жыл бұрын
How about a comparison for the 6.5 PRC and the 270 WSM?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@vodekz1534
@vodekz1534 3 жыл бұрын
this is a better comparison 270 WSM vs 6.5 PRC. 6.5 PRC is a modern 270 win, but Blaser still does not make a barrel for it. I have used 140gr bullet or 150 gr with 270 WSM with great results
@dondilley5075
@dondilley5075 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with Vodek Z. Me thoughts for the 270 came after watching Randy Selby, The Real Gunsmith, talk about the 270, as old as it is, with right powder and barrel, is capable of 3100 to 3200 fps with 140 grain bullets.
@vodekz1534
@vodekz1534 3 жыл бұрын
@@dondilley5075 270 win old proven, but has sharp recoil. 6.5 PRC hopefully will last as long 270 win
@vodekz1534
@vodekz1534 3 жыл бұрын
@@dondilley5075 6.5 interest came from 6.5x55 even older caliber than 270 win. I do have 6.5x55 and love to shot it. Nice for hand loading
@Bouncing22
@Bouncing22 4 жыл бұрын
Load data is a factor as well. With the bullets I use for big game (Barnes LRX), the .270 performs better at all levels. This is according to handload data that is available. They've been developing data for the .270 for almost 100 years though.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed big time
@belt1974123
@belt1974123 3 жыл бұрын
He is comparing standard loads that are commercially available not handloads. The prc can get much better with handloads too.
@matthewkyle6939
@matthewkyle6939 2 жыл бұрын
Barnes are trash.
@Bouncing22
@Bouncing22 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkyle6939 Care to share why? I have 20 dead elk and a dozen mule deer that say otherwise.
@matthewkyle6939
@matthewkyle6939 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bouncing22 they do not perform at long range. Lead cor bullets are superior.
@aaronwilcox6417
@aaronwilcox6417 Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story is 270win is more economical and works just fine. If your not some PRC/NRL type competitor it's not worth it.
@travismiller8478
@travismiller8478 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a comparison between 6.5cm and 7mm-08
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
I will have to look into that
@henryfriesen8614
@henryfriesen8614 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I been looking for
@ez7977
@ez7977 3 жыл бұрын
7mm-08 wins all day every day!! 6.5 is too light to be effective hunting past 200yrds. 7mm-08 can be loaded much heavier and hot and retain more energy out to 3-400 yrds. Neither should be used at long range except on paper!! There are vids with this comparison..
@davidjohnston4122
@davidjohnston4122 2 жыл бұрын
@@ez7977 7mm-08 is a tiny bit better ballistically but you won't notice any difference in practice. Like all these cartridge comparisons, there just isn't a meaningful difference unless you make a big jump. The 270 Win and 7mm Rem Mag aren't even that different ballistically. Have to go to 300 Win Mag from 270 Win before you see a real difference that will alter any hunting decision or result. The main differences are the practical tradeoffs that you will definitely notice: more recoil, heavier longer gun, can't find ammo, have to pay more for ammo, have to choose your second choice rifle etc. None of these small ballistic changes make up for these things.
@ez7977
@ez7977 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjohnston4122 - agree. But ‘differences’ are relative! I handload for just about all the cartridges mentioned in this thread and chart velocity, energy, drop, etc.. i think there is a big difference in these cartridges. Also with the additional speed i can get out of a 7mm rem mag i can out perform a 300 win mag past 600 yards or so. Although i have never shot an animal beyond 500, and most likely never will. Too much can go wrong in my opinion. Within 300 yards all the cartridges are the same, at least no animal will notice the difference!!!
@decibellone696
@decibellone696 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know. but, unless you're building an AR platform to hunt with. I see no reason to not stay with tried and, true .270. .308. or, 30-06. The ammo (when the world isn't being crazy) is easy to find, doesn't cost too much, and, you can buy a used rifle in one of those pretty cheaply. too much discussion on this topic.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
Good info
@vitalshok2238
@vitalshok2238 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually easier to find 6.5 creedmoor, 6.5 prc, 28 nosler than it is to find 270, 308 or 30-06 right now
@dominicnocera7657
@dominicnocera7657 3 жыл бұрын
My wife’s 6.5 PRC carries more energy past 200 yards than my 30-06. Combine that with the relatively low recoil and it has become my wife’s go to Elk/deer gun.
@tylerbrown4483
@tylerbrown4483 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominicnocera7657 in my experience the catch-up is around 300 yards. With 100 FPE difference at 500 yards. The 6.5 is about a half a mil flatter at 500 and .2 mil flatter at 300. You get an extra 20ish yards and a little less MPBR on the 6.5 PRC. You also get a couple fewer rounds in the magazine for what that’s worth. In practical terms I’d say unless you’re hunting beyond 500 there’s no difference in what is achievable with the two. And I think that makes up about 1-2% of hunters based on a couple recent surveys I read.
@dennisowen3717
@dennisowen3717 Жыл бұрын
@@vitalshok2238 Say what. I don't know where your living but here in Southern Utah 270, 30-06, 30-30, 308, 243, 7mm mag, 300wm are every where but you'll be lucky to get any of the PRC bullets. And when we do see them they are much more expensive.
@whiskeytango9769
@whiskeytango9769 2 жыл бұрын
I have been looking at the 6.5 PRC for a few months now. I do have an excellent hunting rifle [Sako A7] in 270W though. I have been using the 140 grain BTSP Hornady and it does perform well, I think that I will do some load development work with the 145 gr ELD-X. I can't justify the marginal improvement that the 6.5 PRC might provide. I would never be reaching out past 500 metres with this particular rifle. For targets, I already have a 223 and a 6.5 creedmoor that serve my needs out to 900 metres. Thanks for the analysis, this was very helpful.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Sako a7 is nice!
@JAKDRZR
@JAKDRZR 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been running a Sako, a7 25-06 an running either 110eldx or 115 Berger vld and it’s bin a great rifle sub moa to 800 yards as that’s as far as I’ve bin able to get out. Also doubles as my coyote gun. 85gr nosler at 3600 fps. Pretty much aim for hair out to 350. Also as for your 270 my brother just went through this same thing. He wanted to get into longer range stuff and was looking at a new rifle but has a really nice ruger 270 m77 that shoots nice. So I showed him with the eldx or even better but more expensive the nosler 150 ABLR it wasn’t worth buying a dedicated long range rig until he gets really good fundamentals.
@JAKDRZR
@JAKDRZR 9 ай бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks in my opinion if you hand load and want a really slick do almost anything cartridge look at a 280ai. Tiny bit more recoil then the 270 but in a browning X bolt you can get a faster twist so you can shoot 175gr and heavier. With my X bolt It has a 26” barrel and it’s setup more for long range target and bigger animal hunting like moose it will push a 175gr eldx at 2940. 👍
@shanemackay7979
@shanemackay7979 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a comparison between the 6.5 PRC and the 280ai
@mannyferreira7559
@mannyferreira7559 4 жыл бұрын
Do this ^^^
@bulldograu1
@bulldograu1 4 жыл бұрын
280 AI is gonna beat it up pretty good. 168 grain bullets going 3000 fps or worse a 180 grain eldm with that BC of .796 going 2800 is gonna stomp on that PRC pretty hard.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@bobkat1663
@bobkat1663 2 жыл бұрын
Lets see my target round 170 berger at 2935 fps. for my 270 win. I have just gotten a batch of the new 165 grain Nosler LRACCB. running right at 3000 fps. My old hunting loads were a 150 Nosler Partition running at 3150 fps. That not only blows the 6.5 prc out of the water but the 6.8 western as well, I did it 40 years ago. yes, I have a custom 270 win.... with those Nosler partitions I have killed everything on the planet but the big 4. Mag. performance with very little powder/recoil/ and I have the same old barrel. The 6.5 prc has very little barrel life. Great pitch but no sell, take care.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 4 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. Both are great offerings for deer size out to and a good bit beyond 400 yards. Both are more than viable to 400 for & black bear with good shot placement. Moose & Big bear one may want a more caliber but either could be used and 270 has been effectively used for years within range & reason.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 3 жыл бұрын
In recent research that think bullet selection is more important than caliber.
@samuelberryhill6956
@samuelberryhill6956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video.i would like to ask if you could do a 270 wsm vs 6.5 prc? This to me would be a better comparison but that's just my two cents thanks again and keep up the good work
@jebjr100
@jebjr100 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt, the 6.5prc is a 6.5 mag
@jeremymichael6496
@jeremymichael6496 Жыл бұрын
The 270 Winchester short mag is faster than the 65 PRC and if you rebarrel your 270 Winchester short mag in a one-in-eight Twist you will outperform the 65 PRC
@alumniduck
@alumniduck 3 жыл бұрын
I can see where snipers would really like the 6.5 prc. The other 99.99% of us are not ever going to realize the 500-1000 yard range where the 6.5 excels.
@westernskies5177
@westernskies5177 3 жыл бұрын
Well put together video. The difference for me is that I like to hand load. I think that brings the .270 more into the realm of the PRC. Also not a huge fan of ballistic type bullets. It’s nice to be able to hit shoulder or lung. A lot of what makes these “flavor of the month guns” are their extremely skinny bullets with high BC’s built to fragment.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@hotramen5952
@hotramen5952 2 жыл бұрын
your comment makes no sense. you use fast expanding ammo for deer, bonded and controlled expansion bullets for elk. do you not think they make accubonds in 6.5? its not 1965, you can get high BC controlled expansion bullets.
@rosswitte
@rosswitte 4 ай бұрын
The test I would like to see is not a theoretical chart but off the shelf accuracy.
@johnjpa808
@johnjpa808 3 жыл бұрын
Seems great! Would love to see how it does on game within 100 yards and 300 yards.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@nj-bz8pv
@nj-bz8pv 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Everyone always try’s to compare the .270 and the 6.5 cm and the 6.5 prc is the one that is exactly very similar to the .270
@thepaisanokid2738
@thepaisanokid2738 3 жыл бұрын
@Br 549 how about a 6.5-300 Weatherby heh heh heh 😎
@DepthWave
@DepthWave 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people aren't loading out the potential of the 270 Win. You can drive those 130grs to 3200fps with modern powder in a fast twist 24"+ barrel. At those speeds it's equal or better than the 6.5PRC in most situations. Sometimes max BC doesn't give the best trajectory and wind drift resistance because the cartridge doesn't have enough powder to get the heavy bullets going fast enough. In those situations, lighter going faster can actually beat heavy and slow.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
True
@davidjohnston4122
@davidjohnston4122 2 жыл бұрын
Can do that with even heavier bullets. Listen to Randy Selby on this. He was an expert on gun making and hand loading before these other people were even born. These isn't much new happening in ballistics. It's been a mature technology for several decades. What's new the is marketing. There is always new marketing. Who cares what a bullet is doing at 600 yards for hunting? You better not be shooting animals at 800 yards.
@wisconsinfarmer4742
@wisconsinfarmer4742 Жыл бұрын
Student of O'Connor
@carterthiessen2664
@carterthiessen2664 2 жыл бұрын
All the numbers are extremely close, it's incredible how similar these 2 are. Within realistic hunting distances, which in my opinion is around 400 yards give or take, there isn't enough difference to make one kf them a clean kill and the other a miss/wounded animal. take a step back and realize one of these 2 cartridges is nearly a century old, and the other is the latest and greatest.
@davidjohnston4122
@davidjohnston4122 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Shoot the same animal in the same place with either 1000 times and you'll get the same exact result every time. Imagine if people who used knives for stabbing argued endlessly whether a knife that was 1 mm shorter but also 1 mm wider was going to be more effective in a stabbing spree. Just get out hunting, find the animal and make a clean shot. If everyone spent 10% of the time shooting that they spend banging out nonsense on the keyboard, no one would ever miss anyway.
@huntingtheancientgroundsht5653
@huntingtheancientgroundsht5653 2 жыл бұрын
Terminal performance on the ELD-X is very significant when inn enters the animals body. Unlike the match and hunter-hybrid projectiles that tumble too late, the ELD-X immediately expand and have great penetration in order to exit out the back. Even if the projectile doesn’t exit, it’s still creates a lot of trauma in the tissue along it’s path. They have great retention on weight. Give Hornady a call and ask questions about terminal ballistics. Great video by the way.
@matthewkyle6939
@matthewkyle6939 2 жыл бұрын
Eld m doesn't tumble lol. Eld m is a great long range bullet, expands wonderfully. Massive damage causing mess.
@jeffreygibbons6878
@jeffreygibbons6878 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Disagree with closing statement that 6.5prc is just better. I’m a 7mag fan so don’t have a dog in the fight. However, for true hunting (
@mitchbrown9713
@mitchbrown9713 2 жыл бұрын
Which barrel will you have to replace first?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Probably prc
@davidschmidt449
@davidschmidt449 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, was just siting in my 6.5 prc and zeroed at 220 then moved out to 450 and was 27” low was thinking that was to much but now it seems good. Thanks
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@superseries7007
@superseries7007 2 жыл бұрын
Just get the 6.8 Western. Next question.
@dbeardsley0
@dbeardsley0 3 жыл бұрын
6.5 prc is now available in all the big ammo and gun manufacturers. Its the rum of the 6.5s and has really caught on in the past year. I'd still put a max range with it though for hunting out to 600 yards. For the 800 yard shots I'll stick with the 300prc or win mag. Target shooting though you can push it I'd say a mile, over that it'll be difficult without going to something more powerful like the 30 calibers
@matthewkyle6939
@matthewkyle6939 2 жыл бұрын
I think I wouldn't be too concerned stretching a prc out to 750 yards depending on elevation maybe a little farther.
@bengreen4583
@bengreen4583 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a different rifle b/c my .300wm destroys meat if I hit them I'm the shoulder/right behind the shoulder. Thinking about getting a 6.5 prc, change my mind.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
I would stay with 300 wm. 6.5 prc is going to destroy the meat if you hit in the shoulder like most anything. 6.5 prc ammo is hard to find limited and expensive.
@bengreen4583
@bengreen4583 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks it's just that the .300 creates massive open wounds a deer, a couple nights ago I spined a doe and her whole back was destroyed. and ammo is expensive as hell bought a box for 45 bucks
@bkb5668
@bkb5668 3 жыл бұрын
I like all the new stuff, and I say keep coming out with new calibers and rifles. I will say I have so much invested in the older caliber rifles and ammunition that I can't justify buying in on another. I do own a .300 rum and a .300 rcm and will some day own .375 rum. Remember if they stop making new stuff eventually we will only have ammunition manufacturers. I have shot alot of game in my life and most of it has been at ridiculous close range, 50 yards or closer. I do sometimes wonder why I buy all these big boomers, might as well buy a pocket full of rocks if they are going to walk right up to me. 🤣
@everettarthur6525
@everettarthur6525 Жыл бұрын
What length barrels are we comparing here on the 270 vs the 6.5 prc?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks Жыл бұрын
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@wesleyturner1979
@wesleyturner1979 2 жыл бұрын
The most interesting comparison has to do with the yardage a which each bullet looses reliable expansion. Good modern hunting bullets will have enough penetration energy if they can expand. This comparison should provide the ethical killing distance for each cartridge.
@TheBearsLair
@TheBearsLair 3 жыл бұрын
At some point all this comparative discussion points become redundant. What drives ballistic performance are three variables: ballistic co-efficiency, powder type/volume, and Barrel length. You want to punch paper between States distances, this is all relevant. Any one thinking this will enable your hunting skills out to a thousand yards - your gravely mistaken. Any animal shot beyond 300 yards, forget it, and take a pass.
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I don't think it's ethical either. They have these guys out hunting, shooting big game at these very long distances with target grade ammo because they have the highest BC. The bullets weren't made to kill game. And when they hit the game, they wound the animal and never recover it. This really has to stop. It's disrespect. The specs on the PRC look very good 👍
@krisshepherd740
@krisshepherd740 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@davidjohnston4122
@davidjohnston4122 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. If an argument for why some "hunting round" is better mentions any distance beyond 500 yards, just stop listening right there.
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjohnston4122 Amen! Merry Christmas David! My question is this: If a man takes an 800yd shot at a beautiful trophy buck over less-than-familiar terrain.And he wings the damn thing because the air has changed directions five different times And he had no idea what was going on downrange. And the deer is, painfully wounded, heads for the woods and the guy spins the day looking for it but can't find it, Will he turn in his tag? That's why I don't need an 850 BC hunting projectile, right there. I can hit a pie plate with 10 rounds from a 28Nosler at a thousand yards. But that is at a range that I have shot every weekend for the last several years and from a gun that I'm on my second barrel with. I can read that range and I know it. These guys don't know anything. It's your responsible...
@davidjohnston4122
@davidjohnston4122 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jeff_Seely If someone can make a strong case that they are going to hit that animal in the vitals almost every time with enough energy to kill it, then I wouldn't say it's unethical. But I just don't believe it. Shooting over two valleys, up into the timber from some makeshift shooting position isn't the same as bench rest shooting on a flat range. I don't know how anyone is going to estimate the wind currents in such scenarios. Maybe there a handful of people in the World that can make those shots reliability but surely not all these 20 somethings on the internet forums. What I find is that the more experience a person has as a shooter and hunter, the more strongly they feel that long range hunting is unethical.
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjohnston4122 I 100% agree with everything that you said.
@kymopar
@kymopar 4 жыл бұрын
heres's the truth..99%.of game will be taken at 300 yards . or less, here's more truth, 99% of hunters nave NO BUSINESS shooting at game over 300 yards..I could not care less what either do at 800 -1000 yards, NEITHER should be used at those ranges..for every deer,elk, killed at those ranges..DOZENS are wounded..the 270 is still king..
@Kmecha84
@Kmecha84 3 жыл бұрын
Correction, the 30-06 takes that crown. Nothing to write home about but it kills everything that's put in front of it
@kymopar
@kymopar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kmecha84 we were talking about the 6.5 vs the .270..guess you got confused..
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure, but does the 270 hold an extra round in the magazine, in general?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
No
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 Жыл бұрын
I think you should recheck your facts. The 6.5 PRC has a fatter case and usually has magazine capacity comparable to the magnum cartridges. For instance, a Winchester model 70 rifle chambered for 270 will hold 5 rounds in the magazine while the exact same rifle in 6.5 PRC only holds 3.
@sugargoldy
@sugargoldy 2 жыл бұрын
Good video thank you have you done a difference on the 6.5 PRC and the 6.8 Western
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
No i have not
@jonxiong5439
@jonxiong5439 4 жыл бұрын
should used the .270wsm to compare with this because they are both short action.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
I have a video on the 300wsm vs 6.5 prc soon
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ 4 жыл бұрын
That 270 WSM intrigues me. Whats the recoil in relation to normal 270 Win?
@bulldograu1
@bulldograu1 4 жыл бұрын
270 WSM is an amazing cartridge when paired with the correct barrel twist. Mine has a 1:8 twist and is a more apples to apples comparison with the 6.5's that all come with fast twist barrels. Once the 270 is equipped with these barrels it not only keeps up with the 6.5's, it surpasses them in performance. I shoot 170 grain Berger EOL'S at 3000 fps. That is one tough customer! Creeds and PRC bye bye. The 26 Noz and 6.5-300 wby can match it ballistic wise but not much else. 270 WSM is a monster when built correctly.
@bulldograu1
@bulldograu1 4 жыл бұрын
@@John_Redcorn_ recoil is basically 7mm mag. Slightly less.
@wisconsinfarmer4742
@wisconsinfarmer4742 Жыл бұрын
@@bulldograu1 Browning offers faster twists in 270, as well as the1:10
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty good video but you give an impression of being biased towards the 6.5.
@wisconsinfarmer4742
@wisconsinfarmer4742 Жыл бұрын
it is the fad, and it does the job. 270 fan myself.
@Freedompatrol
@Freedompatrol 3 жыл бұрын
It's moot. 100 fps or 150ft lbs of energy is not something that could be considered a lot different. The 270 win has got it done for 96 years. The 6.5 PRC is just another example on how ignorant people are in America now.
@Dale37
@Dale37 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't been able to find 6.5 PRC ammo in stock anywhere. I like my .270 but I like guns too, so I will be getting a 6.5 PRC, not cause I think it is better though. Edit: I recently got my 6.5 PRC and am finding ammo at my local stores. Can't wait to take it hunting.
@rpk5250
@rpk5250 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and superb data points for comparison sake. It’s tempting to go sell the Creedmoor and get the PRC because it seems like it’s always nice to have something that does better than what you have but I wonder about the future factory offerings if there will be any for the PRC since I don’t think anybody wants to go out and buy something that’s going to be obsolete in the future
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Good comment
@ProspectingLife
@ProspectingLife 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be keeping the .270 I think. Unless Proof research send me a free carbon fibre 6.5 PRC Hunter. 😂
@StephenSmith-uj7tk
@StephenSmith-uj7tk 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the comparison between 6.5 prc and 270 wsm seeing how the prc is basically a magnum cartridge
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
That is in the plans
@StephenSmith-uj7tk
@StephenSmith-uj7tk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks awesome thanks for the reply, great videos by the way
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
@@StephenSmith-uj7tk no problem
@Cjtarinelli
@Cjtarinelli 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a 270 WSM, and currently shoot both the 6.5 PRC and the .270 Win. As a hand loader, I found the 270 WSM to be an extremely inefficient cartridge. It needed a lot more powder to get a relatively small increase in velocity when compared to the old 270. I like the PRC and .270 Win. about equally, but it still remains to be seen if the PRC is going to "catch on".
@308blr2
@308blr2 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh, which one would be better at 250 yards on a deer?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
Both would do great
@wisconsinfarmer4742
@wisconsinfarmer4742 Жыл бұрын
The Browning lever action.
@adamelam6385
@adamelam6385 3 жыл бұрын
The .270 wsm spanks the 6.5 prc and 6.8 western. With a 150 grain the wsm drops 4 less inches and carries more energy out to 500 yards. The other two will start out pacing it after that but still the wsm is damn impressive.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@adamelam6385
@adamelam6385 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks watch this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHSwo3yVqK2psJI
@neilstuarr2278
@neilstuarr2278 4 ай бұрын
For hunting cheapness of ammo is the decider for upto 300 yards😊
@troytownsend5542
@troytownsend5542 Жыл бұрын
I don't have much data to support my comment, but The real Gun Smith Randy Selby has often proclaimed; despite much anecdotal evidence of deer and Elk taken with the 6.5 cartridges, or the ( its where you put the bullet, is what counts, idealism ) that the 6.5 diameter is just to small for larger then deer sized game, regardless of velocity or energy or shot placement. Jim Hammer from Backfire video reinforces his statement with his experience with the 6.5 PRC. So as far as the ability to kill both deer and Elk I think the 270 is the better choice. That is I would put my faith in bullet placement idealism and bullet construction, on Elk with a 6.5 PRC, but only if I did not have a rifle that shoots a larger diameter bullet like a 270 Win and up. I am new and inexperienced so any share or retort is appreciated, unless its accompanied with an insult. thanks.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks Жыл бұрын
6.5 can kill anything with good placement and bullet construction but I would recommend 7mm or 30 cal for elk or larger animales. Humans make mistakes and I find larger diameter bullets give me more forgiveness and better blood trails.
@luigiiacoletti8134
@luigiiacoletti8134 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! The 6,5 prc said the last word about an useless caliber like 270..and over 25 cal too..The 6.5 can make the same work than 270, but better and more efficiency under all point
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@luigiiacoletti8134
@luigiiacoletti8134 3 жыл бұрын
I made a very similat ctg in 1990 obtained from 6.5x68 case, the 6,5 Jaco, trimmed at 2.035. 120 gr Nosler at 3200fps and 140 at 3000.
@falba1492
@falba1492 3 жыл бұрын
The 270 Win is one of the best non-magnum calibers available. I prefer the 280 AI, but you can’t walk into a Walmart and purchase a box of Federal blue box for $15.99 (before the ammo shortage) for a 280 AI or some other boutique calibers like a 7x64. The idea that a 270 Win is useless is ridiculous. In the US, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa it has a strong following. If you reload, until just recently you could only purchase Hornady brass, which is not my favorite. The 6.5 does edge out the 270 Win, but not by much. If you’re only slightly better than something “useless”, what’s the point? Presently, there just aren’t enough top quality rifles available in 6.5 PRC, but time will tell.
@davidjohnston4122
@davidjohnston4122 2 жыл бұрын
And everybody laughs. The 270 is one of the best hunting rounds ever. 6.5 fanboys needs to do some more research and talk to hunters.
@luigiiacoletti8134
@luigiiacoletti8134 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjohnston4122 if you control tranectories and Power you can see the great efficiency of a 6.5 bullet versus a 270
@leonardcianciotto547
@leonardcianciotto547 6 ай бұрын
The OAL of the 6.5 PRC will relegate it to obsolescence before too long. It's too long for many manufacturers to fit it in a short action, and it's too short to make full use of a long action. It would have been smarter for Hornady to make it full length, like the 7mm PRC. The 270 will outlast this whippersnapper. It's just too established and capable to be overtaken.
@amirdar5363
@amirdar5363 3 жыл бұрын
Please compare 6.5 PRC with 28 Nosler
@fullwhackparamotoring2420
@fullwhackparamotoring2420 4 жыл бұрын
In order to have a fare comparison you need to compare bullets with like sectional density. The reason why is because of the bullet diameter difference. A 143gr .264 is long and skinny giving it high B.C. a 145gr .277 is short and fat giving it a low B.C. Basically you want to compare bullets of different diameter by similar length to width ratios. A 165gr .277 would probably be close is ratio to the 143gr .264.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@thepaisanokid2738
@thepaisanokid2738 3 жыл бұрын
Since when is the .277 bullet short and fat? The 6.5 eld-x is 1.44 inches long and the .270 eld-x is 1.337 inches long. VERY close. Out to ethical hunting ranges there is literally no difference in killing power. When you are talking 1600 foot pounds and change at 500 versus 1700 foot pounds and change at 500 no animal is going to tell the difference.
@thepaisanokid2738
@thepaisanokid2738 3 жыл бұрын
And actually a closer ratio to the 6.5 ELD-X would be a 150 grain accubond long range .277. G7 BC is .317. .002 more than the 143 eld-x 6.5. So essentially identical
@fullwhackparamotoring2420
@fullwhackparamotoring2420 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepaisanokid2738 I think you missed what I said. You have to comapre length to width ratios or SD. Those 2 bullets may be close the the same length but the 270 is a larger diameter so it will have a lower B.C. than the 6.5 because of the ratio. If you campare same calibers you can use bullet weight but when comparing different diameters of the same weight the small caliber will always have a better B.C. within a reasonable range of calibers.
@krisshepherd740
@krisshepherd740 2 жыл бұрын
All these new calibers do is speak to the extreme distance shooters. 400 plus per say. I see no viable difference in this new cartridge ethical Hunting ranges. Fact. So, I'm sticking with my 270win and keep on killing game efficiently and ethically IMHO. Sorry long distances shooters. I'm not a fan. You do you, I'll be me. Stalking in and making a clean kill is hunting and for me, the biggest thrill and skill.
@paulmansfield2907
@paulmansfield2907 Жыл бұрын
So in other words they are identical for all practical purposes. These differences are outshooting the shooter.
@NatureMan50
@NatureMan50 2 жыл бұрын
Put a 1:8 twist barrel on a 270 win with 170gr bullet 6.5PRC doesn't stand a chance
@garyk76
@garyk76 Жыл бұрын
It be a better comparison using a 6.8 western or even a 270 wsm since the 6.5 prc is a non belted short magnum as well is more of a apples to apples comparison since a 270 win is a standard caliber even at that here in Kentucky with the distance we shoot on deer they aren't going to know a difference between the 2 just like they wouldn't between a 308 and 30/06 because most deer or killed between 50-100 yards and most people don't practice enough to ethically shoot at 500 yards I know some people do
@jebjr100
@jebjr100 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the 270wsm be a better comparison? Oh wait there's no doubt that the 270wsm would be better 😉
@paulnirschl6500
@paulnirschl6500 4 жыл бұрын
The 6.5 PRC will probably never out last the .270 or kill as much game.
@Outdoorzmerch
@Outdoorzmerch 23 күн бұрын
In the real world at ethical hunting distances the 270 is far superior even if the ballistics are near identical there's no replacement for displacement
@jackhoover6213
@jackhoover6213 3 жыл бұрын
Is the 6.5 pro good for kids?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
I would start on a 6.5 creedmoor
@wisconsinfarmer4742
@wisconsinfarmer4742 Жыл бұрын
kids move too fast, might be good for woodchucks though.
@nickp862
@nickp862 3 жыл бұрын
This video was flawed from the beginning. I understand you're trying as you said to make it apple's to apple's but its more of an apple's to orange's. 6.5PRC would be more comparable to 264 winchester. While 270win would be more comparable to 6.5 creed. Now saying this i believe the 6.5 creed is an amazing round for putting holes in paper and taking deer sized game to around 300-400 yards and have no doubt the 6.5prc is a very capable round for this application even up to elk sized game. 270 with a 140 to 150 grain bullet if the hunter is capable of ethicly making the shot would be more of 450- 550 yards and still maintain the 1200-1400 foot pounds of energy required to humanely take down deer and elk sized game.
@muddog2159
@muddog2159 3 жыл бұрын
How about the 270 wan vs 6.5 prc
@allandavis6821
@allandavis6821 3 жыл бұрын
Bullet placement and known distances are better yet, caliber really doesn't matter.
@DuaneFreund
@DuaneFreund 4 ай бұрын
Do 6.5 prc vs 270 wsm
@HoofingIT09
@HoofingIT09 4 жыл бұрын
Do a 280 AI vs 6.5 PRC
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@hersheljackson69
@hersheljackson69 10 ай бұрын
You never mentioned sectional density
@wisconsinfarmer4742
@wisconsinfarmer4742 Жыл бұрын
so a 140gr projectile in 270 would even it up, and then pull ahead when shoved out of a Browning hell's canyon barrel. Anybody can make their favorite perform above spec.
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 3 жыл бұрын
"Significant " differences? I don't know that I would call them so significant.
@stevedalton800
@stevedalton800 Жыл бұрын
If you use the. 150 lrab bullet in the 270 it actually out performans the prc
@bryonslatten3147
@bryonslatten3147 3 жыл бұрын
260 Rem beats both for price and performance on medium distance medium game.
@smithnwesson990
@smithnwesson990 4 жыл бұрын
6.5 is such a good caliber.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Yes very efficient and good bullet options
@jerry3675
@jerry3675 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good, but keep studying. Your comparing, they say, apples to oranges. Berger's heaviest 270 is 170 grains BC7 @ 339. Compared to Berger's heaviest 6.5 is 156 grain, BC7 @ 347. 14 grain difference in weight. Max powder charge of 270 case is about 60 grains for a speed about 2800 fps. 6.5PRC grain capacity is about 56 grains for a speed off about 2800 fps. About the same speed capabilities. Now run your ballistics program. 270 might win. Keep making videos, I'll keep watching..
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 3 жыл бұрын
You are right. It's difficult to give the perfect comparison as I like to keep them to factory offerings and or certain hunting factory offerings.
@DRHODES1979
@DRHODES1979 2 жыл бұрын
Rod, the advantage for 6.5 PRC is that I can go buy any 6.5 PRC chambered rifle off the shelf and go shoot those 156 Bergers. Where as to shoot the 170 .270 bullets I have to have a custom barrel and chamber cut. Also, 2800 fps for the 156 Bergers is very mild. Guys are getting in the neighborhood of 3000 fps with the 156 Bergers and 153 A-Tips with no problem. Go run those numbers and see what you get.
@stgraves260
@stgraves260 Ай бұрын
Why not a 150 grain Berger bullet for the 270 w/ a .518 BC or even the 170 grain w/ a .662 BC. I’m not even a 270 fan and I know it is way better than the 6.5 PRC and I’m a 6.5 fan. I’ve been shooting my 260 Remington since 1997. 140 grain Berger bullets .606 BC. These PRC are getting out of control. A lot of hype.
@robertbessette8592
@robertbessette8592 2 жыл бұрын
The 270 is a hunting round the 6.5 prc is like the name says made for prc matches.you will never see a match load for 270 win. Because for almost 100 years it was made to hunt. You talk about 2 inches of wind drift at 500 yards like that matters. Wind drift is a guess you have no way of knowing what the wind is doing between you and a animal on the first shot from a cold bore. If you are shooting at game at 500 yards that is not hunting.if you can’t stalk with in 300 yards of your animal then he wins that’s hunting.to say how much energy one or the other has at a 1000 yards is ridiculous because all it needs is to push through a piece of paper. Is the 6.5 prc a great cartridge yes for what it is made for. Will it kill game better than the 270 no. Very high bc bullets do funny things when they hit bone then you lose straight line penetration. Just my opinion witch is no better then yours. I have hunted with a 6.5 Swede.since the late 1980’s and love it so I am not down on the 6.5s but to say the 6.5 prc is better than 270 is not true. 270 ammo will always be easy to find and cheaper when you do. I really like your channel and enjoy your videos. Looking forward to your hunting videos.let’s all get to the range and have some fun today
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Turkey hunting is around the corner
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 4 жыл бұрын
The foot pound bench mark for taking elk is 1,500. Ethical hunters should not be taking game at over 500 yards so the comparison beyond that point is moot.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
The comparison was also for target shooters.
@williammarshall1629
@williammarshall1629 2 жыл бұрын
270 is the minimum legal calibre for hunting many species of deer in Australia and NZ
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@ngallakp62
@ngallakp62 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a load of bull you can legally use any centre fire in nz but it is recommended to use 243 or larger i know i live and hunt in nz, i also fact checked myself before making this comment
@kerrypurcell6022
@kerrypurcell6022 3 жыл бұрын
but,,,,,,,,,,the old 7mm rem mag with good loads beats them both,,,,, the 7mm weatherby mag,,,,stomps the hell out of the 6.5prc,,,,all this new stuff like 6.8 western and 6.5 prc are a step backward in performance,,, we already have had this type of ballistics for a long time,,,,compare the 6.5 prc or the 6.8 western to the 7mm weatherby,,,,,,,
@ChadsNewEnglandTracks
@ChadsNewEnglandTracks 3 жыл бұрын
The old 7 rem mag 😂 the 270 is like 37 years older...
@bkb5668
@bkb5668 3 жыл бұрын
The case capacity of the 7mm weatherby and the 7mm rem mag. are a big step up from these short mag's but the short magnums still produce huge numbers in short actions, this is the idea anyway. I own short and long action magnums and they all take game equally. The short actions are more handy and the long actions bring a bit more thump. I have a .300 RCM guide gun and I also own a .300 RUM 700 Rem. both stainless with laminate stocks breaks on both I do not think game can tell which one I am hunting with. I think the good old .308 or '06 will work like magic on anything you could want to shoot at. My first rifle was 7mm Rem. Mag. killed a pile of game with it too.
@kroach2653
@kroach2653 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks again!
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@michaelchiarappa8531
@michaelchiarappa8531 3 жыл бұрын
6.8 Western for the win!
@rosswitte
@rosswitte 4 ай бұрын
More cartridges offered doesn't mean they are any good. I would rather have less variety but all be sub moa...
@muddog2159
@muddog2159 3 жыл бұрын
270 Winchester short mag
@davidjohnston4122
@davidjohnston4122 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what? The 6.5 PRC is better for hunting??
@ez7977
@ez7977 3 жыл бұрын
Hornady bullets are mostly junk for hunting purposes. The eldx, which is used in the precision hunter cartridge is nothing more than a match grade, thin jacketed cup and draw constructed bullet never meant for hunting. It is an unethical hunting bullet to begin with. It cant penetrate bone, and looses its jacket upon impact.. its a great bullet for long range accuracy on paper. Please dont use this bullet on game. And nobody should be shooting at game past 400, 500 yrds tops.
@Rushi994
@Rushi994 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Have you used it? I’ve dropped 2 whitetail, 1 at 483 yards and 1 at 448 yards and it blew through both shoulders on both. It’s a great bullet. Both deer didn’t move
@ez7977
@ez7977 3 жыл бұрын
Rushi994 - ive used, shoot and tested nearly every bullet on the market. Deer are extremely easy to kill even with subpar bullets. Eldx will most likely kill any deer, sure. Done it, seen it. The problem is if you hit a dense section of bone the bullet most likely will not make it through the first shoulder. Especially on larger game such as elk or bigger. Its a frangible bullet, breaks apart and ruins alot of meat, it sheds it jacket on impact and the lead disintegrates. How many flecks of lead did you consume? Choose a partition or swift, copper solid such as barnes, or etip.. there are a few others, but research the bullet construction not just what the box says.. you spend thousands of dollars on good gear, nice gun, hunting trip. Why take a chance with a subpar bullet construction at the cost of a few dollars? The bullets i list are guaranteed to go through, retain weight, penetrate anything and not completely break apart and damage much meat.. sure, keep using cheap bullets if you dont care! You’ll get a kill 8 out of 10. Chances are the animal will suffer more, may need a follow up shot, and may loose a couple.
@ez7977
@ez7977 3 жыл бұрын
Rushi994 - hornady and berger are target bullets only.. maybe except for the hornady interlok. Anything they market as hunting is just a rebranded paper puncher! Its not my opinion, its the facts of the construction of the bullet. Any bullet will kill, not all will kill efficiently and humanely. Ive killed and been on 100’s of whitetail hunts. Every deer i have ever shot was a one shot kill and most were with cheap ammo, but that doesnt make it the right bullet. Try an elk with an eldx, people do every year. And every year eldx get lodged in a shoulder joint, completely fall apart on impact and never make it past a shoulder blade or maim an animal.. barnes retains 95% of its weight, passes through any piece or bone of any animal and expands to nearly 2x its diameter…. I shot through 3/8” I-beams two weeks ago with a barnes X, 4 weeks ago i shot eldx that didnt even scratch the surface of a 1/4” steel sheet. Post your email, ill send pics and my stats.
@brandonkilby9171
@brandonkilby9171 4 жыл бұрын
I just don’t see the 6.5 prc. As anything special. I understand that long range shooting is all the rage now. Mainly because modern optics and bullet tech has made it where anyone can do it. 10 year olds shoot elk at 1200 yards now. What once was a coveted title of 1000 yard hit, can now be done with factory rifles and ammunition.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Its a fun cartridge but time will tell if it grows. I did do really good beyond 1000 yards compared to 6.5 cm or 6 cm.
@brandonkilby9171
@brandonkilby9171 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks I would like to see you try weatherbys 6.5-300. Its velocities are amazing and when paired with a alco bullet with a g1 bc of .818 it's a lazer
@ziruk-king4466
@ziruk-king4466 4 жыл бұрын
I will take 270 all day
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Its a good one
@blairajdean
@blairajdean 3 жыл бұрын
Compare it to the 270 WSM
@jti2007
@jti2007 Жыл бұрын
With over 90% of all big game hunted and harvested at distances under 250 yards and probably the biggest share of that 90% taken at under 100 yds this comparison of ballistics and energy at 500-1000 yds is futile. If you want to punch paper at long distances go right ahead and and spend big bucks on guns and ammo. If you're trying to fill you tag and freezer each fall then any of the tried and true big game calibers will do the job. The manufacturers are good at re-inventing the wheel and then trying to convince you to part with your hard earned money.
@adrianrodriguez209
@adrianrodriguez209 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why keep comparing to 1,000 yds., hunting distance, there is no difference, I have both, but selling my 6.5 PRC, just spend more money, 270 cheaper to shoot. It's just no giving me more than the 270 so money wise, the 270 kicks 6.5 PRC butt. that is the real difference between the two for HUNTING distances. This video is not for hunters.
@michaeln.8818
@michaeln.8818 4 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you compare an equally ballistic coefficient bullet from the 270win Say maybe a 150gr lr bullet from Winchester???? If you wanna compare ballistic data you should use equal bc bullets Equal weight doesn’t mean equal ballistics “Just for reference” Have you ever noticed all bullets are trying to beat the 270win? Why do you suppose that is?
@sergioantoniolazzaro1995
@sergioantoniolazzaro1995 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the 270 is the long-range hunting rifle that everyone has access to
@DARRELLGRIFFITHS
@DARRELLGRIFFITHS 4 жыл бұрын
exactly, daft video.
@repairfreak
@repairfreak 4 жыл бұрын
@@sergioantoniolazzaro1995 And believe it or not in this ammo shortage I still see .270 on the shelf, this makes a difference when I want to shoot. I agree with another person that a heavier bullet .270 with similar BC should have been chosen.
@nickb8618
@nickb8618 4 жыл бұрын
Should of compared 270 wsm both mag short actions. Ballistically in ethical hunting ranges 600 yrds or less not much different
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@nickb8618
@nickb8618 13 күн бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks150 grain accubond long range in the in the 270 wsm edges out the 143 gr 6.5 prc at 800 yards in ftlbs of energy and less drop. Similar bullet weights both short action fat cased magnums
@jamiestevens8807
@jamiestevens8807 Жыл бұрын
Did he say the 270 is better under 500 yards, no he didn't . But it is , and unless your a trained sniper you shouldn't shoot at game beyond 300 yards. 1000 yards come on that animal can take one maby two steps during bullet flight, shouldn't be doing it.
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