6 Popular K-Pop Idols With NO TALENT According To Netizens

Some very popular K-Pop idols have been dubbed as "talentless" by netizens. The reasons behind these cases are strange though.
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[@umauma2541]

If you say Giselle is not talented you have no eyes or ears

[@Engene_jungwon7]

Fr

[@HauMun_1lovetacos]

Agreed

[@asmaaelibadi9012]

FR FR GISELLE IS TALENTED🔥

[@BEcauseILoveYooh]

FR. She'd take lead/main vocalist position from many other 4th/5th gen groups

[@wonbinsslvtstanriize]

@@BEcauseILoveYoohMAIN VOCALIST???? Girl….

[@MeghanAir-pb6tz]

TBH, 90% of Kpop visuals are surviving just because of pretty previlege

[@Hellokitty_391]

Well i mean it's what the fans want tho.... 😢

[@urhypeboy]

Absolutely true. *cough* Enhypen *cough*

[@pineappl3pizzzasoju]

Like it or hate it but Visuals is part of the formula to be successful. There is a reason why "Visual" is part of a role in addition to vocal, dance and rap.

[@lolano3392]

True 💁🏿‍♀️

[@j-o-sep-h]

not for female idols though, if they find a single clip of a female idol sounding horrible they wont let it slide

[@salembejaoui1880]

Giselle takes in the criticism and actually improves. Sakura cries about the criticism and makes excuses. They are NOT the same...

[@TaylorLeeKnow]

Exactly 👍🏼

[@itzluv_hyein]

fr

[@UsernameStarfish]

finally someone said it

[@sa_ku.05]

Giselle doesn’t get as much hate as Sakura did especially after Coachella like the hate is getting out of hate.

[@You_Fat_NastyHo]

And I oop....

[@Twiceoutdidurfavs00]

I knew Sakura would be here

[@dianaosazenaye1313]

She never left alone seriously

[@ZareSamo-cn8pr]

With goood reson....end ol rest force hate is just stupid.

[@aesserafim585]

her being my bias 😭😭

[@jenoxhendrix5663]

lol

[@thefastones]

I was like 'Oh shit. Here we go again.'

[@Haeryeon_]

Giselle has trained so much since the criticism. Based on the Armageddon performances, she definitely got better! it’s just prove that idols can do it with the right amount of criticism without hate trains towards them 🤷‍♀️

[@limegecko5673]

I really respect aespa for continuing to improve and showing that they can! I’m not a MY but see they do it better than many other groups

[@tnlkb6115]

But aespa and especially giselle did have a hate train. You can even see the girls confidence fading away around 2021-2022. Giselle even asked Karina to dance in her place at a dance relay video. But i believe that Giselle and the rest of Aespa pushed it through and decided to focus on what they could do to be the best version of themself.

[@MobileLegend-sf9rg]

Giselle is like hyoyeon before...look at hyoyeon now she a dance machine n a good rapper

[@limegecko5673]

I’m not a MY but I really respect aespa for being one of the few groups that actually show SO MUCH improvement and prove the haters wrong! Can’t be said for every group! Giselle’s dancing really wasn’t that great but she has become so much better now in Armageddon era!

[@kerrim4799]

I'm not a fan of Aespa or Giselle, but I've seen enough of their performances to say that she has shown great improvement in dancing. I think dancing is easier to improve than singing which is more important as an idol. Giselle has great vocals already from the beginning.

[@_linlin_]

​@@kerrim4799Legit, she does almost all adlibs for every song. Called "The siren of SM"

[@GirlofSteeleBFFs]

Aespa are the best with everything.

[@btsismyoxyjin6577]

​@@kerrim4799yeah

[@danielrubinstein896]

Ningning is my fave dancer there, karina is okay too, Winter is very unbothered

[@blarfroer8066]

I can see how idols have improved over time, but some of them definitely didn't have the skills needed to debut when they had their debut.

[@theobscenekiwi]

"Yeri can't sing as well as Wendy" Oh cmon now, who the fuck can even hold a candle compared to Wendy's vocal talent?

[@yummymellon4058]

Mamamoo😅, yuju gfriend, ailee (solo), a pink bomi, eunji, Kim sejeong

[@angelabns3730]

look i love redvelvet and i am a huge fan but the yeri critisism is based on truth and evidences, she really lacks all the skills to be an idol, she only has a pretty face and nothing else, i mean yes comparing her to wendy is crazy but lets compare her to irene, irene is also a pretty face but she works hard to improve her vocals to keep up with joy, seulgi and wendy, she is the second best dancer in the group after seulgi and she can pull a few rap lines, yeri would have been more appreciated if she was an incredible rapper or singer, if adding her to the group really added something to it, but she brought nothing, literally nothing, and i am not saying she is a horrible singer and dancer but she has only a meager talent in both departments that even with time and training and her trying to improve for all we know, still her skills are still barely noticeable, at this point i totally believe the rumors around her addition to redvelvet, becz literally the group was perfect as it was and she brought nothing remarkable to it

[@sensoine]

All the SM idols that are here are still far better than the actual dozen from other groups SM quality training

[@kaede_kanzaki]

PREACH

[@MaricelVera1982]

True

[@imjustherefortheks]

Indeed they are... Not that I like them all, but SM's vocal quality is undeniable... Even the "weaker" ones are still well above average...

[@dsibrbidll7752]

Lucas left the chat. At least he is handsome and can kinda dance

[@aiirful]

I think they are here because people expect high standard from SM idols.

[@SamaraSalinasSim]

There's a difference between constructive criticism and hate.

[@siddhartharya1750]

And??

[@beinji4885]

@@siddhartharya1750 Is there something that you don’t understand?

[@Avinaghoreshi.280]

@@beinji4885I think they don’t understand though.

[@siddhartharya1750]

@@beinji4885 everyone know that except kpoopins. Even if someone say jisoo is not strong vocalist (which is true), They fans started calling you hater 😂

[@dragonslayer1223]

​@siddhartharya1750, you have no talent so you can't talk my friend

[@riez45]

GISELLE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK??? GIRLY CAN OUT SING MOST OF THE 4/5TH GEN IDOLS BFFR

[@Engene_jungwon7]

FRERRRR IM SHOCKED

[@mramisuzuki6962]

Giselle is essentially the worst player on a super team. People don’t compare her to other idols but to the idols they see her with because Karina and Ningning are pretty far ahead of most other 4th generation idols.

[@sowhat1674]

No, its because her strongest card is rap ans she barely get any of it.​@@mramisuzuki6962

[@songkang3xsrvx]

​@@mramisuzuki6962karina isn't better than giselle though

[@mramisuzuki6962]

@@songkang3xsrvx idk about that.

[@bahiyyihx999x]

If you say that giselle cant sing you are deaf

[@forthebeansandboos]

FRR

[@kesh_nmn2004]

Literally, like her adlibs are so good

[@zacharikurbah6358]

Louder!!!

[@urhypeboy]

If you say Giselle is talented ure even dvmber than the average kpopies LOL. Sthu

[@Itx_evelynx]

​@@urhypeboycan you do the black mamba choreo like Giselle 😍💅 GISELLE IS TALENTED

[@user-jf8ln7ws8y]

Shuhua is lucky to be backed by Soyeon and other members who can help her get better every comeback ❤

[@ramie237]

Do you think companies put singing last?

[@merphul]

Maybe next break she should go home with Yuqi and meet Yuqi's dad. Could be all she needs is a teacher that speaks Mandarin. Shuhua does just fine. Soyeon sets the standards and she helps everyone reach it. It just sucks that Cube basically forced her to do multiple jobs for them.

[@rcmanization]

has she though? improved that is. I feel like she knows that she doenst really need to sing well (since she has so few lines) so she doesn't care too much about improving

[@sofielamy]

​@@rcmanizationthat's a wild accusation. We don't really know that. Maybe she has reached her potential. After all, people have limits. (I mean no hate by this btw!)

[@user-jf8ln7ws8y]

@@rcmanization Ever since the group became 5 membered, Shuhua has been the one to cover most of the lines of the absent member due to their similar vocal range Check out the ot5 performances of songs pre tomboy and you will be able to notice her growth and improvement Also since then she has gotten more lines, evident in their recent comeback, which was Soyeon's way making sure their songs didn't lack anything even when they lost a member

[@andrewtaylor940]

Just more evidence that K-Netizens are among the most vile trolls on the internet.

[@shonwendy9850]

At least idol "who can't sing" in SM and YG doesn't sound terrible when they singing live/encore 😂

[@hakkenn]

jisoo does

[@vixxexo6855]

@@hakkennJisoo sounds way better then Wonyoung, Sakura and Shuhua.

[@hakkenn]

@@vixxexo6855 not better than wonyoung but yes shuhua sakura and jisoo sucks same

[@beinji4885]

@@vixxexo6855wonyoung? Not anymore

[@arqcarlos13]

@@vixxexo6855 all your spam lost credibility with this comment

[@MeghanAir-pb6tz]

If Giselle is talentless, so is 50% of the kpop idols

[@imjustherefortheks]

More like 85%...

[@urhypeboy]

Let's face it, most idols these days only became an idol because of their looks. *cough* Enhypen *cough*

[@Itx_evelynx]

​@@urhypeboythen the whole enhypen became idol bc of their looks Ig

[@wonniesfeed]

@@urhypeboy Are you okay??? Have you seen Enhypen sing? They are considered one of the most talented groups in K-pop. Their vocals are literally so good, even during live performances they sound angelic. They are an amazing group, and instead of living under a rock you should actually like, listen to their REAL music cause ig you've been listening to the wrong Enhypen cause the Enhypen I stan and listen to always EATS during their comebacks.

[@lucky_ducky123]

@@urhypeboybffr as someone who stan’s nwjns but not enhypen, enhypen is easily the more talented group, yes the nwjns members r talented js not as talented

[@i-am-rubi]

Giselle and Jisoo - they are talented idols but their group outshine them Sakura and lesserafim - being an idol for 13 years and having unstable vocals is crazy to me. Being nervous during the encore - So they know they are weak vocalists Shuhua - is an example of the company debuting someone who has no skills at the time of their debut. People are happy because she improved but lets be honest, she shouldnt debut until she got enough training. Improving after debut? Time for improving was during the training. I don't have anything against anyone but i'm sure there were more "ready to debut" trainees. Was it money? I dont know

[@lucky_ducky123]

well sakura did have good vocals hybe js ruined them by not providing proper vocal training

[@junmyeon_forlife]

SEHUN IS AN AMAZING DANCER ! Atleast he sounds the same on stage as he does in studio version. And I m not saying this just bcoz I am an exo-l. And his rap has improved so much.

[@valentinarebolledo5961]

Shuhua's korean "problem" is a real mystery to me, how come other Chinese idols can speak perfect korean (and even sound native) she's been active in Korea by years now but she's not that fluent yet. I'm not throwing hate tho, I understand learning Korean it must be hard af but shuhua is literally in Korea. Does she learned Korean by her own? 🤔

[@justauser7255]

Wayv winwin is a great example as to why SM never gives him lines in NCT projects. He just never improved whether in vocals or language. He's a slow learner.

[@Hellokitty_391]

Even Tzuyu is improving her korean

[@valentinarebolledo5961]

@@Hellokitty_391 Yuqi sometimes mispronounces words (testicular inflammation for example 😂) but she's still fluent. The j-line from iz*one is a great example too, they didn't train in Korea, they learn some Korean on produce 48, and in less than a year they were already fluent for iz*one's debut.

[@Hellokitty_391]

@@valentinarebolledo5961 lol not the testicular word 😭🤣 maybe she's a slow learner well idk actually...

[@AshThePeach]

Shuhua has expressed how she’s been struggling and is a slow learner

[@vixarts4114]

Giselle? I'm not really following aespa but since the first time i heard of them, i think Giselle was great and didn't lacked at all. Even her Charisma was there.

[@ariannasowder5630]

Same here. I'm a fan of Aespa but I dont really know them well. Their new song Supernova is so good!

[@zmaoe]

sehun? u have to be kidding

[@BlueberrySummertime]

“Rapper” is NOT just a person who can’t sing and is given this filler position. They are supposed to write their rap lyrics and deliver it with incredible quality, emotion and intensity. These kpop idols need to stop calling themselves rappers when all they do is talk fast. Look at Doja Cat. Do you think she would get away with such mediocrity? Also before you bring in the fact that she is only a rapper 1) she sings too 2) she produces MOST of her own sounds and writes her own lyrics 3) she wasn’t even trained and she can out dance, sing, rap and perform better than all of these overhyped “rappers” smdh

[@rashnabholasingh8508]

And yet you are still here. Praising a western artist on a kpop kpop channel? There are many western rappers who get away with the same mediocrity you are talking about. So what's the point you screaming your lungs out.

[@crane7044]

Yeah. Sad reality in kpop idol industry where rapper position given to someone who can't sing, so these people at least have a role, instead of just go silent on the stage 😂 . But, some rapper are truly talented, tho. Like GD, Mino, B.I, Zico, Soyeon, moonbyul

[@Abyss777]

sir hv u looked at these mfs: Han from skz changbin from skz lisa from bp jennie from bp soyeon from gidle jhope from bts rm from bts suga from bts some kpop groups might just give it to someone who cant sing but vast majority of them are better singers and rappers than doja cat. the artists i mentioned above, most of them write their own music, lyrics, compose, produce, sing, dance and rap.. so mind u and please go somewhere else to praise doja cat. if u were gon look down on giselle/yeri for their rapping, compare her to another kpop idol rather than western pop rapper.

[@Supershy822]

@@Abyss777 Lisa and Jennie don’t write their raps, so they aren’t rappers. Hope this helps

[@Abyss777]

@@Supershy822 "Rapping (also rhyming, flowing, spitting, emceeing or MCing) is an artistic form of vocal delivery and emotive expression that incorporates "rhyme, rhythmic speech, and [commonly] street vernacular". It is usually performed over a backing beat or musical accompaniment" - source : wikipedia by this definition.. they are indeed rappers. and if u read my comment once again, u'd see i said "most of the idols mentioned", not all. other than lisa and jennie, all of them write their music, compose, produce, sing, rap and dance.. and whther lisa and jennie can actually write their raps or songs is unknown right now as its famously known that YG is the one the restricted them from contributing in the process of writing their songs. its only after they start their solo careers with their individual companies (that they hv now) can we really know. and like i said, whther they write their own raps or not, they are still rappers (and not like most rappers who write their raps are any good. so i'd rather have some good lyrics given to someone who can rap rather than have bad lyrics written by the rappers)

[@yangchuyou2356]

not wrong, if you're mediocre in singing, dancing and don't rap, what can you do?

[@EverRoxas]

Look pretty?

[@forthebeansandboos]

@@EverRoxaspov most 5th gen idols 💀💀💀def not kiss of life or baemon tho

[@TherealGh0stii]

@@forthebeansandbooswild 5th gen has so many talented groups??

[@MrMsLisa]

To be fair I think having stand out visuals is a sort of talent in this industry…I mean it does attract fans to the group?

[@bloomisugi]

​@@MrMsLisa well yeah but no, I mean in the In recent years, many idols considered "not pretty" (only for kbs) have made to highlight their physical qualities more, one perfect example is Jihyo, she was highly criticized for being a visual hole even in sixteen bc she was "overweight" and now she is appreciated about how healthy and sexy she looks (although mostly outside of Korea), other examples can be Giselle, Rosé, Umji, Chaeryeong, Hwasa, and male idols too, like Felix (That even if it was not criticized for being ugly, it is much more appreciated now for how its visuals stand out) and many others too. The point is that The visual position becomes useless as the years go by because it literally means having been born (or having been made) with Korean beauty standards And I feel that the visual position does not even attract fans because that is what the face of the group is for, it is like when Jype admired Sana in sixteen for being entertaining, that is an attraction for fansNot to mention, but even in txt it is seen, it is assumed because there is no official visual position in txt, that Beomgyu would be the "visual" but the one who ends up attracting the most fans is Yeonjun, same goes with Jisoo, but the one that is more remarkable is Lisa or Jennie.

[@kleinerfuchsi]

Ok, the whole thing with Giselle is that she is standing next to the 3 best idols in the game right now. NingNing is one of the best singers of her generation and Karina and Winter don´t fall much behind, also having good raps and insane visuals. Giselle kind of pales in comparison to be honest. BUT - she is a good singer and rapper. Put her in Le Sserafim or Itzy and she´d be the MAIN singer there. Put here in Twice and she´d be lead with Nayeon and Jeongyeon (Jihyo being main). So she´s the worst singer and dancer in her group, simply because of how amazing her 3 co-members are. That does NOT mean she is bad, it just shows what high standard Aespa has.

[@imjustherefortheks]

I agree with you about the comparison with the 3 others in her group... I like Nayeon better than Jihyo, but both are very weak... The others, well...

[@wonbin__riize]

her vocals are at par with karina if not better, she does most of the backing vocals, only her dancing was her weakness but it was because of the criticism and lack of training, but she has worked hard to improve it and we can see the results now, and she can actually rap and can even writes her own raps, also karina said in an interview had it not been for giselle, they would be doing some cutesy concept, so she is an equally needed member of the group, the sass she adds is unmatchable

[@btsismyoxyjin6577]

​@@wonbin__riizetrue

[@btsismyoxyjin6577]

Most important reason is their company don't let her showcase all her skill. Even Winter and Ningning get equal rap parts as her

[@lucky_ducky123]

REALREALREALREALREAL MY TALENTED QUEEN

[@kimanid.929]

i feel like a majority of these are wrong and harsh, but shuhua is an extremely weak vocalist in my opinion

[@Kpoptrends1x]

🇰🇷

[@ladymoon7327]

I personally don't agree with the ones about Jisoo and Giselle - they're just overshadowed by the other members in their group but they play their role exceptionally well. Jisoo is a good and stable singer and Gigi is a good rapper that is in vocal group. They make the best of their situations. I don't have an opinion on the Lucas guy, idk him The rest I have to agree with, especially Shuhua. In the "Fate" live performance videos, it was sad to see how her missing didn't affect the song's sound at all

[@SunRise1.0]

I don't agree with giselle being a dozen cuz she does well in the 3 main categories esp rap but jisoo is 100% a dozen

[@janayroyster9968]

I think people need to understand the difference between constructive criticism bs outright bullying behavior. It's no need to crush someone's whole confidence when giving them areas to improve on

[@ariannasowder5630]

100% agreeing with you!

[@flaky_salt]

i agree i feel bad for sakura she has been body shamed called vulgar words and what not

[@melodymatters8135]

Putting SM idols in a video with that title is just insane. Sehun, Giselle and Yeri are miles ahead of idols in other groups

[@exoexo0494]

Sehun has a lovely voice, writes songs and can dance and rap. Love him so much ❤❤❤🎉🐥

[@BillyWhaler]

Netizens sitting at home in their underwear with a bag of pretzels calling A-List idols talentless is sort of funny.

[@keanuchillmills4893]

The hate that Lucas get is crazy and wild, with people assuming everything about his scandal when it never been true when it was a gaslighting scandal and yet saying rude and disgusting things is just horrible. Lucas is talented in my opinion; I've been a fan of since I heard about NCT and Wayv. It hurts that people would go that far to say rude things about him, like yeah you may not like him but still talking about him when you don't stan him and calling him horrible names is just not it. Lucas is not a dozen, he doesn't need to impress the public or any kpop stan that doesn't like him, he clearly came back for his fans not them and he clearly made them proud and makes his fans happy. He's not going to be that certain someone that these other kpop stans want him to be. He's a human being just like every other kpop idol, if you don't like a certain kpop idol then don't focus on them and stop trying to think his fans won't defend him. Like he's been through too much and came back after 3 years. No matter what Lucas does or do, his fans will always support him no matter what he decides to do.

[@ammarakarrem7150]

🥹🫶🏻

[@keanuchillmills4893]

@@ammarakarrem7150 🥺🫶🏼

[@MaricelVera1982]

So true!!!

[@ariannasowder5630]

That is how I am with all K-POP! They are still learning some people learn slow and some others learns fast. But it doesn't mean make fun of them while they are still learning. That is what I really wish other people understand.

[@DP-co6qx]

Honestly I am not a fan of Lucas or Sehun but if I can see than I too believe Lucas is more talented and charismatic than Sehun. I mean Lucas made his place in SuperM which is full of seniors class or you have to have multiple talent like Mark and Taeyong who can do almost all sing, rap and top dancing in SM group. On the other hand I barely heard Sehun singing and compared to Kai, Baek and Xiumin his dancing is ok.

[@rhafaaaa]

Shuhua really needs more training in singing.

[@salembejaoui1880]

She's tone deaf and there's nothing that can help that. She's actually a "helpless" case but some other idols here be making dumb excuses

[@sanriod0lll]

@@salembejaoui1880 no offence but how did she even debut? I thought the kpop industry was highly competitive and selective but people say she '''can't''' sing, dance, rap or even speak Korean like I don't understand

[@imjustherefortheks]

I don't even like her group, but, for me, Minnie is the only one who can actually sing well, IF she trains properly...

[@ZeriocTheTank]

The endless excuse that people use for Shuhua like korean not being her native language isn't working anymore. It's not 2018, it's 2024 & we're still seeing the same thing. The excuses are getting old now. At this point what we see right now is peak Shuhua. There will be no improvements.

[@Hellokitty_391]

Yeah her dance is improving a lot but her vocals.....

[@adesuwa6264]

Let's not deceive ourselves. Some idols are just pretty and can't sing

[@millionwhere5803]

If you compare them with their bandmate you may think they have no talents but among with the other groups in k-pop industry, eventhough all of them can't have the same standard of their members in singing or dancing but they're still be good enough to be in the group when you look in the big picture. all of them is visual of their groups, If you were debute from big3 company especially in SM and YG you can't be no talents for debut there's so many rivals that want their place. Idols from small company alway using story of underdog group that working hard to be recognised but Idols from big company they working hard too to be debut in big company. Why people can't be more nice ?

[@anikalee9012]

Every SM artists have good enough skill for real. Even though they are not the main position

[@ferdinando723]

Definitly not Gisele! Girls is amazing rapper and great vocalist!

[@rustic_mango]

I love Lucas! Loved his solo. Love Jisoo she’s highly talented. And suho! This list sucks

[@lucky_ducky123]

giselle?

[@Hearts4nimc0]

you forgot moka😁

[@forthebeansandboos]

All of illit beside minju and maybe yunah*

[@Seungberry_InTheBuilding]

@@forthebeansandboosFR

[@dakshapoodari]

@@Seungberry_InTheBuildingwhy do I see you everywhere😂😂😂

[@Hellokitty_391]

​@@forthebeansandboosactually wonhee's vocal is kinda decent

[@Supershy822]

She can sing, just not in the pitch that hybe make her use. Go watch the performance with JYP

[@travellingkpop]

People criticized SM idols who are actually good at singing than any other groups, and there are some 4th-5th gen idols who cannot sing & still get praised.. 3rd gen idols cannot be compared to new gen idols, they didn't use backtrack most of the time. Now its more about charts, fashion endorsements and they don't have time fof training?😂 i mean thats the main thing, singing dancing and performing.

[@Real_Karinaa.]

jisoo? ok. sakura? ok. BUT GISELLE????

[@vivicheri444]

that’s what i’m saying like HUH????

[@vim2339]

Jisoo ?

[@imjustherefortheks]

​@@vim2339yes...

[@imjustherefortheks]

Giselle on this list makes no sense at all... ZERO

[@_linlin_]

​@@imjusthereforthekslegit, she ain't called The Siren of SM for no reason bffr

[@Iamashlynstarmason]

Thank gosh for the complements for LUCAS, thank you for not being just negative!

[@Animegaman]

There is a YT channel called First Take that has idols sing live version of their songs. Stray kids, NCT, G-idle, XG and others have appeared and you can CLEARLY tell which ones can actually sing vs other who use the mastering processing to help their vocals.

[@KCHIJuarez]

Its always the talentless calling those with talent talentless lmao

[@ariannasowder5630]

IKR!

[@flaky_salt]

i mean theyre public figures

[@syntheticbeats7836]

GISELLE HAS TAKEN IN THE CRITICISM AND IMPROVED SO MUCH YOU CAN SEE IN ARMAGEDDON. MEANWHILE, OTHER IDOLS CRY AND MAKE EXCUSES ABOUT IT

[@kriiiofficial]

Whoever said SM artist can't sing just straight up stupid ignorance😏

[@Chick0714]

But I like renegade

[@umanair9334]

Just because they might be vocally weak doesn't define them as talentless besides they excel very well in other positions

[@siddhartharya1750]

Singing or raping is main thing for an artist 😂 Coz you can still make a song without having choreography.

[@beinji4885]

@@siddhartharya1750 This is true in other musical industries but kpop is characterized as a musical genre defined by audiovisual characteristic so dancing still matter. And even if it can be considered as less important it is still a skill and an art

[@MeghanAir-pb6tz]

Nah, unless you are super talented in dance (Momo) or rapping, you are talentless if you can't sing

[@You_Fat_NastyHo]

Girl shut up

[@imjustherefortheks]

​@@siddhartharya1750they are "idols", not artists. Some are, some aren't...

[@ahwakwani9179]

I think we should refrain from putting Sehun on a list of No Talent as it gives a negative impression to people who don't follow EXO. if u want to see his talent it is simple CHECK HIM OUT & u will know why he is in EXO. HATERS find flaws without any substance just to satisfy their lackluster selves. Also, it is quite evident when it is constructive criticism, and when it is hate.

[@Butterball2829]

yeri completed red velvet, she carried the baseline and verses

[@reveluvin6088]

Red Velvet - YERI = 😝 Red Velvet + YERI = 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (That's 85 show wins for those who can't be bothered to count). Without = No wins, With = 85 Wins, the maths get easy after that 🤣

[@sarahv5617]

I don’t really understand how the title of the video “idols with no talent” has anything to do with its content. The video lists idols who lack certain skills (for many reasons), but certainly not without talent. We as a society are completely losing understanding of the word talent, especially in the entertainment industry.

[@You_Fat_NastyHo]

Go cry

[@ariannasowder5630]

I'm with ya.

[@bolinsun9565]

Netizens calling others "talentless" without looking at the mirror are some of the best comedies on the internet.

[@imjustherefortheks]

🎯

[@Seungberry_InTheBuilding]

Some of these idols I agree with being not developed enough, and others I really don’t get the hate for💀 but we have to keep in mind that it’s their job to sing, rap, and dance

[@bolinsun9565]

@@Seungberry_InTheBuilding Indeed, I'm not a fan of any of the ones mentioned here, and I understand some of them have evident shortcomings. I just find it completely unnecessary(and hilarious XD) to call them "talentless" just for having weak points.

[@Seungberry_InTheBuilding]

@@bolinsun9565 yeah calling them “talentless” is absolute complete crap because obviously even if their company only chose them because of visuals they need some kind of talent to debut(esp in dance)💀

[@vim2339]

Why you using Jisoo as the picture on this video? Tf

[@btsismyoxyjin6577]

She's easily most popular in this list so they obviously did this intentionally to attract angry fans

[@SunRise1.0]

why not? should she use a picture of V from bts? jisoo is the most popular on the list so it would guarantee more clicks than using any other artist mentioned in the video

[@CKi-ws5wo]

The source for these kpop channels are tabloids like Pannchoa, Allkpop etc. The writers of those articles are the so called 'netizens, knetizens ' etc

[@user-dp9kv8dw9n]

I somehow knew Shuhua was going to be here and I was already ready to throw hands

[@sm1417]

Man, even SM dozens are capable of hitting a note 😂please stop using them for views

[@AM_1011]

Giselle was on the korr team, and she plays at quite a high pitch. Maybe her voice isn't as good as NingNing or Winter, but she really understands technique and how to sing. If you hate the 2nd or 3rd Vocalist because he can't sing like the main Vocalist, I think that's unreasonable. Especially in the case of members of the SM group, because SM's main vocalist is at a different level. It would be better to compare the 2nd Vocalist in SM group with the main Vocalist in another company

[@imjustherefortheks]

You are not wrong...

[@ste8ven]

you should have added Kazuha and Enchae

[@angelaG_004]

100% in my opinion there are the worst singers under hybe and le serafim?

[@s.lotus74]

THIS IS ABSOLUTLY NOT BTS HATE. but i think the hate towards sehun is fulled by his comparison to jin since the groups are compared alot, jin is kinda known to be a bit of a space filler (hes good at keeping up dont get me wrong, im not denying that) but i feel like some of the fans needed a "well so do you" moment and chose sehun since he is also a visual he was an easy target. but he absolutly does measure up and carry impact in the group. he raps pretty good and is also top 3 dancers in the group. (top 2 if you consider the fact that lay isnt promoting) saying he cant dance is saying exo cant dance, just saying...

[@not_in_the_mood]

what are you talking about? sehun hate didn’t stem from him being compared to jin (they’re rarely ever compared in the first place). sehun is the least liked member because people think his personality is boring and compared to the other members, he lacks in just about every aspect. they’ve had this opinion about him before bts even debuted so it’s definitely not fueled by any comparisons.

[@s.lotus74]

@@not_in_the_mood that litteraly makes no sense since he isnt the least liked AND hes a better dancer than most of exo. secondly it is bts stans who point out his flaws whenever jins positon in bts i bought up. since they used as rivals it makes sence. im not putting anyone down im just stating what ive observed. lastly bts had their debut like a year after exo and sehun was like the most popular member at the time...

[@not_in_the_mood]

@@s.lotus74 this isn’t what i personal believe, i’m just going off of the many comments i’ve been seeing for years. don’t shoot the messenger! and yeah he was super popular around their debut but then his popularity started declining after it was revealed that he was friends with that one bigbang member that’s involved in the burning sun scandal. sehun himself wasn’t involved but i guess him being associated with a criminal was enough for some people to be thrown off and not really appreciate him or his talents. all i know is that his hate train definitely didn’t stem from him being compared to jin. it may play a factor, but it’s not how it started.

[@s.lotus74]

@@not_in_the_mood ahh okay😭, i think i came off a bit defensive. sorry about that

[@btsismyoxyjin6577]

I have always seen fights between Army and Exo L but never saw any kind of particular comparison between this 2

[@izzyisme7451]

A singer should be able to sing, a dancer should be able to dance, And a performer should be able to perform. These idols trained for all of these, and really there should be no excuse for their "lack of skills" Having a pretty face can open the door for you. But staying the the room? Thats all on their abilities n skills to make it

[@Seungberry_InTheBuilding]

Couldn’t have said it better myself- it’s their literal JOB to do this stuff, they’re getting payed good money(if u don’t count underpaid/mistreated groups like LOONA)

[@MrMsLisa]

I mean you’re not wrong but being an idol is about connecting with fans first and foremost, not skills. It’s an industry and the people who create the groups chooses who they think can attract the most fans and that’s not always who’s the best singer etc, especially when you can get away with a lot by lip syncing etc. As long as fans buy into it there’s no incentive to change.

[@yeahyeahyeah3724]

Let's be honest. Realistically, some idols became idols only due to either their looks or connection. I'm not saying that it's true for all of the idols mentioned because I don't watch some of them, but as for the others that I am familiar with, I appreciate them for working hard and eventually improving their skills. Unfortunately, there are also those who have their skills regressed as their group became more popular.

[@mamagne800]

Lisa should be in there not Jisoo. Jisoo can sing at least.

[@joeblack7326]

Nah, both of them should be in the list

[@neofried.]

Giselle has one of the best rap & vocals i've ever heard, but some people are deaf i guess

[@AB-yg6og]

Tbh that coachella performance was so good, like the performed for almost an hour LIVE in the hot amarican weather with a hard choreo, people still expected them to sound like the pre recorded version? LIKE BFFR. And tbh people called it bad bcs they were jealous bcs their favs weren't invited.

[@rodagonzales4167]

Giselle improves a lot. Like her attitude towards critism. So proud of her.

[@x_phxntom]

Naah not Jisoo and Giselle they can out sing all the 3/4 gen idols

[@EverRoxas]

That's likely a stretch.

[@davidwong6682]

Someone whom haters said can't sing mananged to smash the LIVE stages, including Coachella, and sell 1.5 millions copies of her single album ME. My message to the haters is this, if anyone think Jisoo can't sing, you need to have your 🧠 and ears checked out.

[@shashishukla2048]

Saying Jisso and Giselle are talrntless and not putting moka,eunchae,wonhee is a crime

[@wonniesfeed]

Bro I understand that it is wrong for them to say Jisoo and Giselle are bad vocalists and I agree with you, but why the heck do you need to bring other idols who are much younger and easy targets for bullies and haters just to make your favs shine??? I know Giselle and Jisoo are good singers but you did not need to say that Moka, Eunchae, and Wonhee, are 100% talentless! And fyki it has been reported that Moka, Eunchae, and Wonhee have been having a really hard time due to the extreme hate and it is getting out of control, because of crap people like you those idols are having to severely suffer at a concerning age. Ik they are mediocre/ developing vocalists who need more practice but that doesn't mean you can openly bully them and literally hate on them. I hope you can be a little more mature and a better person in the future.

[@vell2994]

I can't understand to this day how sm could debut yeri. In comparison she lacks in everything until now

[@user-tf6ig6ci9x]

just look at the rap and flow of renegade . This proves his ability of raping and Sing

[@EverRoxas]

rapping*

[@lv70rouge]

should be all of lesserfems, not just sakura

[@Hellokitty_391]

For real

[@hananasr6439]

Yup

[@HaRacycEBLErAtIng]

There must be at least 1 good vocalist right?

[@btsismyoxyjin6577]

I don't think Yunjin and Chaewon should be here and I'm not even fearnot

[@btsismyoxyjin6577]

​@@HaRacycEBLErAtIngYunjin was amazing but recently she's messing up little bit

[@estiloycontenido]

This whole attacking and defending idols is one of the reasons i am growing so tired of kpop

[@mahabubajannathashi1199]

Jisoo’s fans are the definition of Pity stans 😂

[@user-io6dg8do8h]

Jisoo being on there is a crime 😢😢

[@humairabanu3129]

No it wasn't

[@forthebeansandboos]

@@humairabanu3129 fr stop glazing black pink💀💀

[@humairabanu3129]

I love her but .....

[@Seungberry_InTheBuilding]

Her dance skills are a bit weak- and while her vocal may be beautiful she lacks vocal ability to SOME extent(as somebody who has been singing for a few years this is just my professional opinion) I feel like she hasn’t really improved all that much despite being in the industry for so long which doesn’t necessarily make her talentless- she just lacks some idol ability(no hate at all I love her and admire her as an idol)

[@II_II555]

​@@forthebeansandboosdont agree with the comment? Fck off and make your own

[@dirtychaes3452]

Ur messy as hell for putting Jisoo on the cover 💀

[@siddhartharya1750]

But she is not talented compare to other lead vocalist 🤡

[@vannessagarcia4158]

i mean it's true...

[@Adi-qz3vd]

But she is so much stable and actual sound similar to the studio version when she sing ​@@siddhartharya1750

[@vim2339]

@@vannessagarcia4158it is not true is f up !

[@vim2339]

@@siddhartharya1750Jisoo have a great talent

[@withpeacelove366]

What about Jin from bts? I feel like this was mostly geared towards women who aren't strong singers.

[@mariaeleonordaras8131]

6 popular idols? but you showed more than 6 idols and as far as i’ve known all these idols are popular🙄

[@Zeeroes121]

Jisoo made me fall in love with DDU DDU how can you do her dirty like that?

[@whocares7974]

You should have added bts jimin exo kai and twice momo to the list of bad singers too

[@Kpopies_GotNoBrain]

This is true for the 6 idols they are just dozens

[@facentoes4821]

Some of these idols don't deserve to be on this list while there are others that definitely need to be on here! This list stinks.

[@edunpeal]

The entire LSF should be here, and not just Sakura🥴

[@btsismyoxyjin6577]

I don't think Yunjin and Chaewon should be here

[@seastar-qw2qg]

There’s something actually wrong with you. Le serafim May lack in vocals but they never lack in dance so shut up. And u saying that shit when chaewon exists proves ure either a troll or just silly

[@Bumblebee_diuu_kpop]

Fr.. chaewon vocals are not good and not stable. Fans praise her because she is the only one who can sing decent in lsf. Yunjin goat voice, Eunchae and kazuha man's voice. Kazuha knows only one thing that lift leg nothing else.

[@Kitty_missss]

​@@Bumblebee_diuu_kpopcalling in eunchae and kazuha voice a man's voice is disrespectful and rude , their voices are just deep just BTS V he has deep voice . Please stfu if you're gonna hate instead of giving positive criticism with degrading them

[@seastar-qw2qg]

@@Bumblebee_diuu_kpop chaewon vocals are good and average by K-pop standards. Stop talking as if she can’t hold a note. Ure just lying to urself. She’s not as good as anyone from BM or aespa obviously but her vocals are good🙄

[@HauMun_1lovetacos]

Shuhua asked to get the lowest lines because she was still learning Korean.

[@SH-bm8yp]

Who really cares? Music is about having fun and making people feel happy. You people complain way too much and take this way too seriously.

[@iamweird-ei7s]

As rookies everybody has some sort of area where they are lacking. You can't just expect them to be great because of they had so much training and practice. Every song has it's own lyrics and tones that they need to adjust to, especially in Kpop. There are so many different genres of music and so many different lyrics. And the whole point of being in a group is that as a group they fill in for each other where they are lacking. They don't have to be aces to be idols. There was even some older idol (though I can't remember their name) they said that back in the day there was only 1 or 2 aces in a group but now the whole group is forced to be aces. Lots of older idols talk about their struggles as rookies and how they were lacking but how they have improved over the years. This just proves that its ok to not be able to do some things. Plus there is so much more pressure on idols these days. They are pressured to make at least 1 million sales with their debut album and if they don't they are considered flops. They go through scandals for literally everything they do.

[@KyanMears]

I love Sakura so much but bffr, the "defence" is just people making up excuses for her.... Yes a lot of the hate and comments are really getting out of hand but you'd think if someone has been doing the same job for over 12 years they would be great right? like her vocals should be good by now? I'm not a singer so I cant really speak on how one would improve their vocals but we have seen countless examples.... Taemin is a big one, Wonyoung, Yujin, Lisa, Miyeon

[@kendricmaine1234]

Funny how before his scandal Lucas visuals made him was one of the most popular members in NCT by fare , only after his scandal fans admitted his not very talented

[@hananasr6439]

What's his scandal?

[@MrMsLisa]

It would be interesting to hear from people who create groups and what they are thinking, what skills are emphasized and why etc. Seems like nowadays when lip syncing is so common there are no incentives to focus on vocals when putting together a group for example. That’s a bigger discussion than going after certain idols. At the end of the day you can have all the members of a group perform their absolute best but if no one was chosen for their singing it will still sound bad.

[@regretisathingofthepast]

I challenge anyone that wants to criticize these idols, to do what they have done. It's hard enough to deal with the schedule and training on top of school work. Better yet, until you move to another country, learn the language and debut with a K-Pop group that hits 4 consecutive PAKs... you can just stfu.

[@darryl450]

EXO sehun is a amazing Dancer and rapper And he is a songwriter in the group. And also come up with choreography with kai. His rap skills are good. Just because you rap fast doesn't make you the best rapper That's why I like the way he and chanyeol Rap together, amazing Duo. And they talk. About you couldn't keep up in the beginning Are you kidding me He and kai Have always been the best dancers in EXO- k . When it comes to SM entertainment Groups They teach them how to do things right People just see that they look good and That's all they can do Wrong. And a lot of these members debut In short time But with time going by you see how much they grow

[@WhippedForJungkookie]

Jisoo is full of many talents, she is an amazing actress, can sing and dance well. She is An all round entertainer who has made it very far in the industry and continues to be highly successful

[@user-cw4pp1fy3m]

I'm sorry but no she can sing only but acting that's no

[@siddhartharya1750]

Her singing is not that good

[@forthebeansandboos]

All rounder 💀💀💀 dawg all she can do is model and act

[@trollfalgar]

I always respect idols who can debut under yg! It has been mentioned time and time again how hard the training are... So if she can make it, means there is something special and talent in her ❤

[@Koaqu]

@@forthebeansandboosthat’s what she wanted to do in the first place, she was forced to join a group, did you not watch the video???

[@SunRise1.0]

People call sakura a dozen but not eunchae?? nah, eunchae is one of the biggest dozens in kpop. Weak in vocals and rap and mediocre in dancing, easy to replace in terms of talent.

[@4lovleygirls]

Shuhuas rap in Fate????

[@RyanChu]

This channel never fails at making hateful content against idols!!! Have some shame.

[@shubham_gupta9]

Yeahhh

[@doreenmande2135]

i agree with you. in the beginning i watched it for it's better take on all things kpop including scandals but mostly it's wholesome take on kpop amidst all the channels that were only talking about different scandals in kpop ,but nowdays this channel only talks about the scandals and this fuels the hate these idols are getting. sad really

[@riez45]

yeah this is sers sick

[@MP-yd1xm]

They’re literally complimenting them after quoting netizens comments 💀💀 have some brain.

[@Supershy822]

@@riez45 you can’t say much. ‘Where’s your proof Karen?’ 💀

[@Cinnamonfrogz]

NOW IDK THE DOZEN THING BUT THAT SHIT’S FUNNY

[@francejay3784]

Idk how some netizens consider some SM Artists as talentless. I--- girl, do you need hearing aids, glasses or smth? SM Artists will always be the golden standard in K-Pop. Anyone who begs to disagree can stfu.

[@rcmanization]

since when did netizens know/understand music well enough to say who's got not talent ?

[@TifaHeart]

But Jisoo really cant dance nor sing.

[@bottleflip1997]

if you think sehun and lucas have no talent you are DELULU

[@leeksleek512]

I am a j-idol fan and I find it interesting how much k-pop fans obsess over skills. Japanese idol fans often savor the experience of watching an idol slowly get better over time. Maybe that's why I only like a little k-pop once in a while.

[@user-go3mr8hc2f]

Same. It feels rewarding to follow jpop idols and watch them improve overtime. I'm kind of starting to like Aespa bc Giselle seems to have that jpop spirit in her. xD

[@preciouslyunhinged]

Peaple and netizens who say this are just mean spirited and take it to be judges bse they cant do half of what idols do