65 Inch Sony Bravia 9 Review | The Most Natural TV I Have Ever Seen MWave

[@stopthefomo]

I’d take the 85” B9 for ❤ movie watching and sports all day long!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@stopthefomo EYYY it's you! Thanks for commenting 😁 your comment a the end of your video saying we need bigger TVs at MWave 2025 was the truth. These mini LEDs get better the bigger they are. Thanks again for taking time to hit MWave. You guys were a huge asset and a major help in my buying decision.

[@kenwarner5387]

I guess as any purchase personal choice plays biggest role in decisions like tv choices. B9 is my choice, no burn in, no guaranteed degradation because it’s not organic flawed tech. I cannot see diffs they tout in contrast. So why take chance with no warranty. And if OLEDs are best… why don’t they cover burn in? Do u like babysitting what your family watches?

[@Stock--Rosso]

Got my 75" B9 last week and it's frankly astounding. Great video👍🏼

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Stock--Rosso glad to hear you're loving it! I want the 85 inch version. Can't wait to get it

[@Edin8140]

Owners of the 75'' are all extremely happy.

[@partizanbgd0113]

Hey guys, I had issues with a 65” g4, had to get it replaced twice and even though on the second panel pixel refresh has made those burn in lines disappear, I decided to move away from it and now waiting for the 75” Bravia 9 to arrive. If I am being honest, but afraid what to expect from Bravia 9. Really hope it will deliver. I don’t play games, watch a lot of movies and sports. Any re-assurance is welcomed. 😇

[@444chroma]

Sony really did us a solid this year. I am very pleased with the 75 B9... it's flat out incredible how far LCD has come

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@444chroma so happy you're loving yours. I imagine it's only going to get better with time and more software updates. 🔥

[@andrewParker-p1s]

Unitl it fails within a year or so

[@Freakyguy666]

NOTE: The B9 reviewed was NOT their flagship 85”! The Star-field Performance is MUCH BETTER on the 85” BRAVIA 9 due to the massive increase in dimming zones PER SQUARE INCH VS the 75” and 65”.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Freakyguy666 thanks for the comment! You're correct, I was only able to see the 65 inch version. I would imagine the larger pixels and more dimming zones would absolutely help this out.

[@91DivineAngel]

This would not help. Even the 85inch has twice as dimmingzones but its still not neraly enough for such scenes. The allghorithn will work like on the smaller sizes and it would look neraly identical. Only if the 85inch has a better panel with higher contrast it would make a difference.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@91DivineAngel I would imagine the perceived brightness is higher just because the stars would look bigger on a bigger screen. That being said, if the algorithm works well and there are more zones, you should be able to control the light better in star fields to get better brightness... I can see the issue coming with a moving star field where the backlighting struggles to keep up though. It would be a very interesting test to see a static field vs a moving one 🤔

[@91DivineAngel]

@@SpencersStuffTV the problem is that there multiple stars in each zones. So there is not much what more zones can do so long as the zone is bogger than the Star or just slighty bigger. This is the Physics off LCDs. In most scenarios more zones will truly help and the 85inch will look better but in starfieödscenes even lowerend full array LCDs like from sony themself will look the same. As owner off the 85inch x95l and had the x900e(only 45zones!) I can tell you that the x900e looks the same. Everything else looks dramaticaly better on the x95l. My 85B9 will arrive maybe wendsday so i can compare 2808zones vs my 862zones from the X95L

[@NexGenTek]

@@91DivineAngelOh it helped I saw it myself going up in size it’s more than 1300 more dimming zones and about 1000 more over the 75inch. It Eliminated all blooming. It’s still not Oled stars but close while everything else is twice as bright as Oled

[@kenwarner5387]

Appreciated the non biased honest review. Well done sir!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@kenwarner5387 thanks for watching! 😁

[@Nathann556]

This TV is amazing. Traded in the A95L due to the aggressive dimming for sports, and this strikes a perfect balance for me for OLED-like contrast, picture quality, and versatility. The viewing angles are much better than expected too. My only minus with this TV is the edging is a little black, but I have adjusted to it and dont notice it anymore. This is a 4.5/5 TV

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Nathann556 great synopsis! There is no perfect TV out there... Even though some people act like there is. Many people are looking for different things when they have a tv. I agree, the contrast is more than good enough for a lot of people. And the sdr performance is great as well.

[@Swecan76]

I have the 85" Bravia 9 XR90. I love it. Just started playing Horizon Forbidden West. Holy crap does it look great. Colors, the HDR, clarity and smoothness, contrast. Watching movies in HDR, so nice. Finished Avatar the Way of the water.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Swecan76 the 85 inch version is what I'm shooting for. I'm hoping to grab it at Black Friday! I've been told it's better in 85 inches than the 65 inch

[@davidross7255]

How are the viewing angles on the Bravia 9, and is the contrast comparable to the LG G4?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@davidross7255 I would say you start losing contrast at about 40 to 45 degrees off angle and the contrast begins to fall off. Not much. In terms of contrast, the g4 has superior contrast due to it being self emissive. The B9 still has one of the highest contrast ratios for a mini led. The difference is down to brightness. I recommend checking out rtings.com to see all the details!

[@davidross7255]

@@SpencersStuffTV thanks for the reply. I'm currently looking at the 77-inch LG G4 and the Hisense 75-inch U8N. Was the U8N at M-WAVE and if so how did it compare to the LG G4?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@davidross7255 the u8n was not there but the TCL qm8 was. I imagine they're very similar. As a value brand both Hisense and TCL are great, but their processing is nowhere near as good as LG or Sony. If you're a person who wants all the details pulled out of a picture and wants that granular detail, I would get the LG G4.

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

My 85" B9 just arrived yesterday and I've been tweaking it to my liking and just have to say: "Wow!" We also have an LG G3 in the same room and I'm liking the B9 more than it. Can't wait to see what Sony's Mini LED TVs look like in 5 years from now...certainly mind blowing stuff.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@vgnvideogameninja2930 glad you're enjoying it so much. That brightness IS the WOW factor for sure. I personally am happy giving up a little contrast for that brightness. Keep me updated on how you like it. 😁 What is your primary use case with it? Is it gaming, movies, sports?

[@stewiegriffin5084]

I'm waiting for my 85 b9 to arrive, advised it might be a few weeks. I'm busting at the seams....I want it NOW 😩

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@stewiegriffin5084 I don't blame you! I'd be itching to get it as well. I'm getting married in October, so I have that same sort of excitement and eagerness to move forward. That being said, I can't wait to be able to buy a new tv soon

[@stewiegriffin5084]

@@SpencersStuffTV congratulations and hope you have a happy and successful marriage.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@stewiegriffin5084 thank you so much 😁 I really appreciate those kind words

[@hunterross860]

Thank you for uploading this! Not many people out there will ever get to see these all side by side in person, so I appreciate the insight. I’m in the market for a sports watching tv and was between the B9 and the S90C. Seems like the B9 is built for that usage.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

You're welcome! I am hoping to grow my channel enough to eventually put money back into this so we can do side by sides regularly. I can tell you now, I really like the b9 for sports. the sustained brightness in SDR is huge. I always say you want more brightness than you need so you can dial it back whenever. If you want and oled for sports, the LG G4 was great as well, granted, it still wasn't close in brightness to the bravia 9. You could also save some money and look at the bravia 7. That TV is more than capable.

[@JoFaL]

Great review and great observations. Subscribed! 😃

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@JoFaL thank you! I appreciate the subscription 😁

[@techsamurai11]

Great review! I own a Sony and I went to a store and I was floored by a sea of Oleds from LG and Samsung. Gorgeous TVs but they all were missing something. It wasn’t until I saw the A80L and the X90L that I found the missing parts. Then I saw the A95L which combined the best parts of those TVs. As you said feeling is so important and when I look at LG and Samsung, I applaud the effort but not the performance especially since I feel they are blurry. It’s like an Olympic performance that is bound to receive a silver or bronze medal. The Sonys do so many things right that even the X90L with all its flaws is almost a world class TV. Also SDR and standard mode remain the most common formats for a lot of content. Also, if anyone has ever compared filmmaker to standard mode with warm on a sony, one of those modes looks like the tv has failed and you need to call tech support and repair it.😂

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@techsamurai11 I feel the same way! Once you get used to the Sony processing and color science, it's hard to adjust away from it. LG is getting very good though, just not quite there. They're the perfect middle ground between Sony and Samsung. Sdr is still so important and I feel alot of times it's looked over by people

[@travelingman217]

I can tell he is a Gran Turismo fan. The background music is from GT7!!!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@travelingman217 you know it! The Road to Joy by Lenny Ibizzare! Out of curiosity, is the music too loud, or just right volume wise? Still working on mailing in my video production 😁

[@travelingman217]

@@SpencersStuffTV It’s perfect man! Fantastic channel. I’ve subscribed!! :)

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@travelingman217 thank you so much 😁😁

[@chrispatsox]

Well playing on a google tv will suck

[@james007bray]

Thanks for the video! I can't decide between the 83A80l or 85B9. I currently have the 65A80L but that's moving to the bedroom. I'm still waiting to see an 85B9 in person, local Best Buy's only have the 65".

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@james007bray thanks for watching! Those are both great choices for TVs. Down to it, what are you wanting? Brightness or contrast? The Bravia 9 is a far brighter TV than the a80l and will provide a ton more with HDR impact. But some people struggle with sacrificing some of the contrast for that. What do you primarily use your TV for???

[@james007bray]

@@SpencersStuffTV Use case is cable tv, streaming, sports and PS5. Can be tough during the day due to bright room but if the B9 can come close to the blacks on Oleds it may be worth it. I think the 83a80l has a glossy finish so definitely more reflections. How was off angle on B9? I'm about 9 ft from tv so 83 or 85 will be nice.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@james007bray I noticed contrast fell off slightly at about 40 degrees, but it wasnt major by any stretch. It's still plenty watchable. The screen size will definitely help you. I can definitely say during the day, you won't notice the contrast differences. But my gosh when you watch sports and play games on this thing, the sports will look real with the amount of brightness this thing puts out. You'll get that HDR pop for sure. I have the a90j which is basically the a80l and it's pretty unremarkable in a bright room

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Great video buddy.I liked the way you review TVS.😊

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@michaelwyckoff7593 thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed the video 😁

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

@@SpencersStuffTV I will look for more of them when you post. I'm both a OLED and Miniled man. I have both technologies. I've heard about the Bravia 9 and how special of a TV it is. It's definitely the TV to beat this year for best TV of the year. I just wonder will it beat the fantastic OLEDS by SONY, SAMSUNG, and especially LG.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@michaelwyckoff7593 thanks! I'll keep pushing. Gotta find ways to get the tech in my house so I can keep covering it. I can say some aspects it definitely beats OLED, some it doesn't. As I said in the video. I'm sure the purists will always go toward OLED, but people who want to have fun and push their TVs will have a blast with the Bravia 9. I look forward to the day we get an affordable self emissive display with the brightness of a mini led. I currently have an a90j and am x930e so I am in the same boat. You can appreciate both technologies for what they are!

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

@@SpencersStuffTV I Agree 100% with you.

[@AlmightyS0sa]

Best review yet for the Bravia 9!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@AlmightyS0sa thanks for the compliment! I think rtings did a great job as well on theirs. Definitely recommend checking it out 😁

[@Swecan76]

Starfields in movies are fine. They are nothing like starfield tests like on Spears and Munsil. Because they are just a "backdrop". Sure the stars might be 20% less bright than the best OLEDs. But those scenes do not happen often and you do not have an OLED next to your TV to even know. It's more like how well does it handle the black in those scenes and does it bloom constantly. It does not. The blacks and contrast is amazingly good. It's a miniLED that can hang with OLED in 90+ % of the content that is deep contrast. In anything else it exceeds the OLEDs.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Swecan76 I've said the same thing myself. We always focus on one "downside" of a tv when there's no perfect technology. It's all down to preference. I think too many people look at a TV from a "reviewers" point of view and don't add their human opinions to a tv. These mini LEDs have gotten INCREDIBLY good

[@rayenwoomed5323]

Which would you say is more important for HDR movies: big, bright highlights or smaller, specular highlights? Also: how does the Bravia 9 do when displaying vibrant colours? I’ve seen the S95D myself and was very impressed with its colours. How does the Sony compare to it?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@rayenwoomed5323 for the first part: this is down to your preference. Do you want little specs/10% windows that will glow, or do you want the bigger windows to shine brighter? Usually the larger windows are where led tvs shine. I personally prefer the larger window brightness because more of the content I consume are in larger windows. Plus full field scenes jump off the screen And that wows me more. As for color volume and vibrancy, the s95d has a higher color volume, but the processing is nowhere near as good as the Bravia 9. In my opinion, the s95d is a one trick pony. It offers a bright, punchy, and unwieldy image that looks extremely fake to me. But I know some people like this. The Bravia 9 feels like the middle ground. You can crank the brightness and the color is does have will not fall off since it is also a qd tv.

[@rayenwoomed5323]

@@SpencersStuffTV Thanks for the detailed answer! I have just one last question: Would the strengths of the Bravia 9 be wasted in a dark room? I'm looking to get a TV for our dedicated movie room in the basement and was leaning towards OLED, until I saw your video. Do you recommend the Bravia 9 85" in a light controlled room? Thanks again!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@rayenwoomed5323 its tough to answer. I tell people, if you're in a dark room, if you want extreme brightness in the dark room, you'll probably want to use biased lighting. That being said, the Bravia 9 could be a great dark room tv because, as you turn down the brightness to your comfort level, your black levels should improve. I personally like having the extra overhead to make the TV how I like it. On an OLED, if it isn't bright enough, you're stuck with it. You have a ton of flexibility with all TV's now

[@Sputnik21]

Is this Bravia worth it at 65 inches, or does it shine at higher sizes only? Also, do PS5 games look good on this TV? I've been watching reviews on different brands all day. I started with Samsung, then decided to settle for the Bravia 9, but peeked at other models also, like the LG 4G, although I'm not sure OLED beats a solid mini LED like this model. I appreciate any feedback, thanks.

[@tedshep]

Do you think they will release a 97” or 98” Bravia 9 next year?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@tedshep after talking to the Sony reps at MWave, I didn't hear anything leaning that way... Granted they have NDA's, so they could be working on something. Your guess is as good as mine. There have been A LOT of people requesting it according to them

[@tedshep]

@@SpencersStuffTV Glad to hear they’ve received many requests for it. Hopefully they will take that seriously. I guess we’ll see, but it will be a long wait. Thanks for your insights.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@tedshep I wish I could offer more! I can only imagine how expensive that size Bravia 9 would be lol

[@blackscorp]

Hey Spencer , I’m originally from Michigan also . Great video, got my 85 inch Bravia 9 delivered last Thursday so far so good . I’m still getting a feel for the settings and features but I can vouch for this panel indeed .

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@blackscorp I'm originally from Michigan as well! Now I live in the suburbs of Indianapolis 😁 I have heard spectacular things about the 85 inch version. That's the size I'm wanting. Glad to hear you're enjoying it. What's your favorite thing about the tv?

[@blackscorp]

@@SpencersStuffTVoh Indian that’s cool I’m in Texas now myself . 105 degrees today lol . My fav thing about the tv so far is the detail to image . Granted it’s only been since Thursday … I’ve seen the power of what this panel can do . I had the 85 inch Sony X95L but something told me to invest into this option instead . Then the price dropped 700 I had Best Buy bring and mount the 85 option. It’s very immersive for sure .

[@Noshandy]

I’m the same as you about SDR. Had my 75” z9d for nearly 7 years. 840 nits calibrated is a sight to behold. Felt no need to upgrade until the B9. Have an lg c1 upstairs and the apl on some content drives me nuts.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Noshandy there's still so much sdr content out there to which I can't ignore. My a90j is a struggle to watch be the x930e I still own in the living room

[@jimtoomey9522]

Great info, can you drop the audio track down a decibel or two ?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@jimtoomey9522 thanks for the feedback! I can do that in future videos. Still trying to tone in the production side of things 😁

[@georgecav]

I love the volume and clarity

[@Phuamt]

Great review. How is Bravia 9 differ from Bravia 8 and 7? Can show? Thks

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Phuamt I unfortunately don't own the Bravia 9, 8, or 7. The model I reviewed was from an event I attended. I have been saving to buy the Bravia 85 inch Bravia 9. I would recommend switching Brian's tech therapy and stop the fomo to see if they touch on this topic a bit more

[@dansisternas9158]

Good review ! I own a Sony xr-83a90j and I'd like to buy a new TV. In 83"/85", I'm hesitating between: - Bravia 9 in 85" - LG G4 in 83" For streaming, PS5 (a little), movies and series (4k, HDR and DV), sport. Whaut is for you the best fit ? Thanks

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@dansisternas9158 I am moving from the 65 inch a90j to the 85 inch Bravia 9 personally! I figure for all those people in a dark room, they can turn the brightness down a little bit to get better black levels. For sports the Bravia 9 was my most impressive TV due to the dimming not being there. Are you someone who likes a brighter image? If so, are you okay sacrificing some of that "OLED depth" to get that brightness? The G4 is also a fantastic tv. In my opinion, it was the best OLED for watching sports

[@dansisternas9158]

@@SpencersStuffTV I like brightness, especially for HDR movies/series. True HDR = Brightness !! I'll try to see thel side by side. I didn't think I would hesitate so much to switch to a LED TV... Thanks for your reply 😀

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@dansisternas9158 I definitely recommend getting the change to go look at it in person! It should help guide your purchasing decision. Let me know what you go with!

[@clixt984]

Went to Best Buy yesterday really set on getting the A95L... I ended up getting the 85" B9. It is surprisingly contrasty. It's like almost an OLED but like you said, with the much higher brightness.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@clixt984 you may notice too, which no one says... Those OLED demos on the bravia 9 have more shadow detail than the OLED. It's weird. The oleds feel more "zoomed in." I hope you enjoy your new tv! It's a fantastic panel. And you won't have to deal with dimming

[@clixt984]

​@@SpencersStuffTV Yep noticed that too. Speaking of noticing, the only time i did notice blooming was when I was at angle, on a very tough scene (subject with black background). Watching it dead center, about 9' away, I could not really see the blooming because the tv "softened" it. Another win i noticed was that, when i watching a GoT demo, there was clip with gold graphics and man, that thing looked like gold. The a95L was not. The G4 though was pretty dang good.

[@Pete_or_Peter4Long]

Is it possible for LG to start buying QD Oled panels from Samsung and add MLA to them or can’t these two techs be combined?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

I guess that's theoretically possible, but I don't think LG would abandon woled since it's so tightly wound to the core of their business. A move to QD OLED would be an admittance that their technology isn't as good. I could see LG Trying to work on a qd layer on their own oleds before buying anything from samsung

[@Pete_or_Peter4Long]

@@SpencersStuffTV The only reason I haven’t upgraded from my 60” plasma is motion handling. For what ever reason Oled seems juddery to me. Do you think the B9 is any better in this regard?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Pete_or_Peter4Long plasmas will have better motion. Personally it doesn't bother me, but some people are more sensitive than others. I don't think you'll ever get a modern panel with better motion than your plasma. That being said, a plasma is never going to do hdr or achieve anywhere near the brightness. It's a tradeoff. I recommend you see the tvs in person to decide for yourself

[@Pete_or_Peter4Long]

@@SpencersStuffTV The other thing that bothers me in black crush. Guess it’s either B9 or G4 as I refuse to buy Samsung. How do they compare with shadow detail?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Pete_or_Peter4Long I have the same problem. the Bravia 9 will maintain shadow detail better than the G4 in my opinion. OLED struggles to come out of black into gray so you lose some of that detail.

[@baconbutter]

Great video! Was awesome meeting you too!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@baconbutter my man! It was great chatting with you so much. Look me up on Facebook if you have one. Spencer Walter is my full name

[@From-sl3yg]

How did you find the viewing angles on the B9? I am thinking of buying it in the 85 inch. My sofa would be as long as the TV and about 7 feet away. Would the people on each end have a poor viewing? Cheers awesome video

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@From-sl3yg thanks for watching! the contrast starts dropping off at about 40 degrees if I'm correct. Not massively but a little bit. At 7 feet on the 85 inch, I don't imagine you'd have issues unless you were massively off angle. I recommend going to the store to see for yourself if you can find a Bravia 9. This will give you the definitive answer

[@From-sl3yg]

@@SpencersStuffTV thanks

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@From-sl3yg yep!

[@chrisrizzo627]

What tv would you recommend for sports and movies. I am not into video games. Huge oled fan. Debating between 77” a95L, 77” Bravia 8 or 83 A80L.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@chrisrizzo627 for this year, I think the LGG4 is the best sports OLED personally. I still have issues with ABL kicking in on Sony oleds

[@chrisrizzo627]

@@SpencersStuffTV I 100% agree however I can only choose a Sony model.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@chrisrizzo627 then go with the a95l if your budget can swing it.

[@lawball1727]

Question, is the B9 85" better than the 85"X95L/75"Z9D?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@lawball1727 I unfortunately haven't seen the 85 inch version. From what Brian said at brianstechtherapy, he said the 85 inch is a true successor to the z9d, which is regarded as the best led to ever created. I would say that's high praise

[@lawball1727]

@@SpencersStuffTV Thanks for your reply.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@lawball1727 you're welcome!

[@zanat0s]

Question: can you clarify if Sony Bravia 9 supports 120hz in Dolby? Also if it supports, are you locked in GAME mode? I have an a90J which in order to have 120hz it only supports in game mode (and no game mode)

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@zanat0s hey!! If you go to the rtings review at about 13:45 seconds, they say the tv DOES support Dolby vision gaming at 120hz. I do believe it is locked in game mode though, but I am not sure. I have an a90j as well! I'm ready to upgrade as well 😁

[@jimpayne9488]

The Bravia 9 sounds amazing except for one thing: According to the Rtings review, turning on BFI results in a blurry, duplicated image. I always use BFI on OLED because it increases motion resolution in retro games and helps create a more “filmic” look for movies. So to hear BFI may not work properly on the Bravia9 is a potential deal breaker for me. Would love to get feedback on this from B9 owners. Thanks for your video it was super informative!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@jimpayne9488 hopefully some of the Bravia 9 owners will be able to help you out on this. I imagine it's a software issue that can be fixed in the future but am unsure. Thanks for commenting. I want this community to help each other out as much as we can

[@exhibitD79]

It's not an OLED so why would you need BFI? It's going to having smoother motion due to the fact it's an LCD panel.

[@Swecan76]

I don't use BFI or the "motion blur" setting in games. I could try it. But don't see why. I am using VRR and playing Horizon forbidden west and it's smooth as butter and looks fantastic, I am playing on PC with RTX4090. Also a lot of these things comes down to the user of the TV and what they notice or not. Using a program that could detect minor duplication in a freeze frame is not the same thing as you the person playing it. You might not see it at all. You can never know any of this unless you test it yourself. That is unfortunately how things work. You cannot rely on what others tell you. It's only yourself and what you notice. Some people are super sensitive to stuff and see it when others don't.

[@brealll9647]

Will you be speaking about the TCL Qm8?

[@jimadams2113]

Great review, thanks.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@jimadams2113 not a problem! Thank you for commenting 😁 Are you interested in the Bravia 9 or are you looking at any other tvs?

[@MyloMane]

Is this better than the x90c 83 inch?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@MyloManeI assume you're talking about the Sony x90c? If so, yes by a mile.

[@MyloMane]

@@SpencersStuffTV Sorry I meant the Samsung s90c 83 inch

[@techsamurai11]

My major complaint with the Bravia 9 is how many of those features were left out of the Bravia 7 which is also expensive. The Bravia 7 is going to outsell the Bravia 9 by a considerable margin and those folks will get a lot less for their money.

[@Swecan76]

Which is logical. Why would they get more for their money and reduce the value of the Bravia 9. It makes no sense. What features? The wide angle and more dimming zones and better 22-bit control. Of course they need to keep the extra for the Bravia 9 or they could just have Bravia 7 as the only option.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@techsamurai11 you're saving money going with the Bravia 7. There'd be no reason to buy a Bravia 9 if the 7 had all the features. That backlight system on the 9 is more expensive to build than the traditional mini led backlighting in the 7.

[@techsamurai11]

@@SpencersStuffTV it's the wide angle and finish that they could have included. The backlight of the Bravia 7 could have been just a tad closer to the A95L.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@techsamurai11 ahhh okay. Yeah the xwide angle would have been nice. Not sure what that isn't a standard on the top tier and second tier at this point

[@techsamurai11]

@@GTS-Olivier No, they don't teach it at Wharton 😉

[@jeremykalamianjeremykalam8095]

I found what you said about gaming on this tv very interesting. I only enjoy playing story driven games. Therefore I want the best picture quality and the best HDR impact, I’m hesitating between a95l and Bravia 9 for games that are dark like ( the last of us and cyberpunk ) but only for games like Spiderman, god of war, sports games). Can you please give me your opinion ? thank you

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@jeremykalamianjeremykalam8095 both tvs will offer sensational picture. The Bravia 9 should give you more HDR pop when gaming, and it'll be better sustained brightness in higher apl scenes. That being said you still get the infinite contrast on the OLED. I personally think the Bravia 9 gives you overhead though. If you want to turn down the brightness and improve black levels, you easily can. There's also no risk of burn in on the Bravia 9, while it's still possible on the a95l. I know for me, I feel more immersed in the brightness as it feels more lifelike. But some people don't like losing that contrast.

[@jeremykalamianjeremykalam8095]

@@SpencersStuffTV thank you very much for the answer. I think I will try Bravia 9 this year. I’m sure that game like last of us and cyberpunk will still be fantastic to look at even with slightly less contrast but with better brightness :)

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@jeremykalamianjeremykalam8095 absolutely. And at the end of the day, you can keep the box for a bit and return it if you don't like it! Keep me updated on how you like the tv 😁

[@NexGenTek]

Great Coverage!!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

Thank you so much for watching! 😁

[@ryanbaker7404]

Thanks for some additional perspective on M-Wave. Always glad to meet new content creators. Gotta watch out hanging with FOMO and BOMO, though...you'll eventually need bail money! 🤣😂

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@ryanbaker7404 not a problem. Thanks for watching! I feel that man. I wish I had a Robert Zohn in the area haha. As the channel grows I'll start picking tvs and focusing on the longevity of the tvs. I'm getting married this year so I'm a bit tight on funds. I love this hobby so much but its soooo expensive lol

[@jennerfrench7236]

We've been taken through the rollercoaster gubbins of these LED TVs time and time again yet no one knows how they do it! Mini leds will sweep the board when it comes to nuanced high fidelity. With Neo Qled it's the QD factor, with Sony it's about Bravia engine. Where OLED would need really accomplish anything in the future it's screen size. As with TCL sets we just see them getting bigger.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

Sony absolutely needs to make larger screens. The issue is, we have to pay a ton for it. I'm so excited to see where tvs go in the future. This Bravia 9 really opened my eyes to how far we have come.

[@bigcdub]

I can do one better than this video. I'm waiting for Sony to release a 55" B9, so I can relieve my Oled from any possible future burn in from gaming in the ManCave. My coworker bought the 75" B9, and we had a chance to directly compare it to his 77" A95L via 4k UHD blu-ray movies, and a 4K splitter. Let me just say this, the B9 will be the best LED for years to come, I find it slightly better than the X95L LED, from the previous year. With that said, I could definitely tell the differences in PQ between the two sets, while the B9 definitely had brighter highlights, the A95L had more color definition, and saturation in those highlights, additionally, when we played Mad Max "Fury Road", you could clearly see the benefits of QD-Oled, way more detail and saturation, but as stated, the B9 can reproduce the brightest whites, but I can easily still see some blooming in super dark scenes with bright highlights, and yes, to some this will be a non-factor, but to me, it just validates the fact that LED can never scientifically match, or beat any self-emissive panel...

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@bigcdub it's all down to preference too and watching habits. The a95l was still a great looking TV but even in the brightest scenes, it didn't really touch the b9's overall brightness. If you're in a dark room, blooming can happen, but I can also say it's not noticeable if you use backlighting, which I do. My real issue with OLED is always ABL. I have not come up on an OLED that doesn't dim when I play games and it's infuriating. There really is no perfect TV out there right now unfortunately. But I'm happy we have options. I still love OLEDS. I have an a90j currently and it's solid. But I can't stand it when gaming.

[@bigcdub]

@@SpencersStuffTV Even in the dark, I could clearly tell the A95L was far superior, with regards to contrast and detail, and that’s where we did most of the 4K Blu-ray watching. Keep in mind, both sets were calibrated, and yes, the B9 definitely had brighter highlights, we could easily tell the A95K had much more detail in it’s highlights, especially the scenes where the guy plays the guitar with the fire shooting out of it, the A95L trounced the B9 in detail, and this is my whole point. People dumb down the blooming, but anyone particular about their PQ will definitely notice it, no matter how minimal, it still exists, and so does the off axis bad viewing angles. I think its saving grace is its bright room performance, which is stunning. Like you said, it’s personal preference, but it still will never match, or surpass any self emissive panel in overall PQ period, and those are just facts. I own 5 QD-Oled panels, including the A95L, A95K, and S95C and S95B. If they release the 55” B9, I’ll have that also…

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@bigcdub absolutely. And even still oleds have their strengths in the whole. I know for me, a large factor in moving to the b9 is sdr performance. I prefer that brightness. I guess we are getting to that point of "what's good enough." I have a ton of backlighting so my room is never dark and I even like standard modes on my tv. I'm not a big person on creators intent either as I feel it takes away from owning your tv. But I can appreciate people liking a TV for that as well. OLED's are still phenomenal, and as I said in the video, you really can't buy a bad tv anymore

[@NexGenTek]

@@bigcdubMy 85 eliminates all blooming non-at all the extra thousand zones is really helpful and it’s the best HDR experience I’ve ever had and this is coming from somebody who owns Oleds in every room. I can’t explain to tell you how well this TV handles perfect blacks it’s almost as if the tv turns off there’s are scenes I thought I sat on the remote lol

[@bigcdub]

@@NexGenTek Yeah, I still want the 55”, if they ever release one, but from seeing the 65” in-store, and the 75” my coworker has, I could still see blooming, not saying it didn’t still look awesome, just saying it’s still definitely there. I also own many Oled’s, and at the end of the day, the B9 is still just a LED panel, so it can never control saturation at the pixel level, and the content we watched on 4K UHD Blu-ray, you could definitely see the difference in a dark room. Bright room viewing, I agree will you 100%…

[@zman-ru3yf]

Are you sponsored in any way by sony lol. I have a 4 year old 75" 900h and I'm looking to get an new tv. I have a dark theatre room so I have been leaning towards the LG g4 83" but I wasn't sure if it was worth the 2" sacrifice from the Bravia 9 85". Your review is making me think I should stick with sony

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@zman-ru3yf no I am not. I have had Sony products since I was born. My parents always had sony tvs and cassette players, etc. they always lasted forever. My x900e and x930e are still in use today with no issues. I always had playstations too. I tout Sony because they are a reliable brand to me. I think besides my PS2 I had to replace, every Sony product I buy lasts me a LONG time. I pay the premium because I see them as premium As for your upgrade, you will get dimming in sports and games. Especially the more static elements on screen. The brightness in sdr will also be pretty unremarkable. But if you're only watching movies, the OLED is probably a great choice. You can't go wrong with any TV in that price range

[@zman-ru3yf]

@@SpencersStuffTV thank you very much for responding! Keep up the good work!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@zman-ru3yf you're welcome! Thanks for watching 😁 I'm happy we crossed paths!

[@induction7895]

Did you listen to how the TV sounded on its own?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@induction7895 no but I did hear it at best buy in the magnolia section. Sounds sensational for a tv. It won't beat a dedicated sound system, but you can definitely get clean, depth filled audio from the tv speakers. They aren't tinny at all

[@mariosmichael837]

What about blooming?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@mariosmichael837 I didn't notice any to be honest. Unless I was extremely off angle...say 40 degrees or higher, this tv controls blooming exceptionally well

[@mariosmichael837]

@@SpencersStuffTV to the subtitles when you seen behind blacks?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@mariosmichael837 I notice a halo but it's not from blooming... It's from how bright the subtitles get lol. I had the same phenomenon occur with my OLED since subtitles are a "small window"

[@mariosmichael837]

@@SpencersStuffTV in my Sony OLED zero blooming.I am between Bravia 9 and LG g4

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@mariosmichael837 oleds don't have blooming. There's a natural bloom caused by our eyes around bright objects. That's what I'm talking about. What intrigues you the most about the Bravia 9 vs the LG? If you're extremely worried about blooming and not as much about brightness, you'll probably want to stick with an oled

[@Greg29]

After watching this video I want the Bravia 9 85" more than ever. I just can't justify in my mind getting rid of my 65" Sony OLED for it.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Greg29 which Sony OLED do you have? I have the Sony a90j at 65 inches

[@Greg29]

@@SpencersStuffTV I have Sony's first OLED, the A1E, 65 inch, still working great, although I guess it doesn't do Dolby Vision correctly.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Greg29 most of these tvs would be a substantial upgrade over the a1e. But if you're happy then that's all that matters

[@AnythingGoesJoJo]

I really want to see a real comparison between the Bravia 9 and Z9K

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@AnythingGoesJoJo this is like a better controlled z9k. It feels a bit more predictable in its local dimming. I think the reduction in resolution helps this panel quite a bit

[@AnythingGoesJoJo]

​@@SpencersStuffTV Very interesting 🤔

[@thebossnocompetition8757]

Sure the White subpixel on LG OLED with its dominating blue spectra energy will never look pure white. you need an RGB display to be able to display pure white.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@thebossnocompetition8757 you're correct. The Samsung s95d and the a95l were also unable to display pure white, they leaned very heavy blue. The LG actually leaned green.

[@thebossnocompetition8757]

@@SpencersStuffTV Thats mostly an calibration issue. i have the S95B and it can display pure white. good but not as pure white as the Plasma TVs. to dial in White on todays tvs you need to visually match white from an reference display. you put up the reference on one side and the other tv on the other side then its just a matter of getting correct Red Green and Blue settings. but WRGB OLEDs are doomed. they change whitebalance depending on how much the white subpixel is used so you can never get them right. when you adjust white on those you are adjusting the white subpixel not Red Green and Blue as you normally do on an RGB display. White on the WRGB OLEDs comes mostly from the white subpixel even in SDR.

[@thebossnocompetition8757]

no calibration or reference tv on this event or?

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@thebossnocompetition8757 understood. Thanks for the comment. I know these were not calibrated before being shown... The Samsung was not good at all when it came to showing white. That's how I knew there was no calibration. They used standard mode separately and it was wild how bad it was lol. The cinema preset was better. I'm also not a purist when it comes to picture quality. The creators intent has never really been my preference. I agree though. Wrgb oleds are in a lot of trouble. Unless they are able to use some sort of quantum dot filter to increase color volume at higher brightness levels, they're going to continue falling behind the qd oleds. I'm just happy tech isn't stagnant and we are getting new display technologies. It's a good time to be a consumer

[@thebossnocompetition8757]

@@SpencersStuffTV ok thats not very professional for an event that looked professional. you where mostly comparing picture modes there. i will get the Bravia 9 for sure when we get the 65 inch version here in Sweden. After that i will do a bunch of tests and comparisons. check my channel in a few months and i will post correct settings with correct whites for the Bravia 9 my guess is that as it is Sony it is already close to reference with the Movie mode.

[@SagaciousFrank]

Hold on, surely the OLED produce more colour volume while not getting quite as bright? 🤔 Also, the Samsung S95D is currently the brightess OLED with its third generation QD-OLED panel. I'm now skeptical of anything you're saying here.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@SagaciousFrank the issue you run into is sustainable brightness and power allocation. OLED's have to allocate power to each pixel, which can cause some problems when it comes to shadow detail in high apl scenes. If they're cranking the pixels to run at the highest brightness possible on, say, a sun, that's less power to feed brightness to another part of the screen. This was the issue in the movie Alpha. And as 4k nit content becomes more common, I think oleds are going to keep running into the same problem. This power budget is not the same on a mini led, which is why it can get brighter. The issue with Samsung is, they were definitely bright, but their image processing and usage of the brightness was nowhere near as good as Sony's or LG's. It ended up turning the picture from believable to fake very quickly. There are some people who will lean that way, but I'm not one of them. Down to it, this is all down to opinion and what you like. There's nothing wrong with that

[@SagaciousFrank]

@@SpencersStuffTV , thanks for reply. However, the point I am making is that although OLED cannot (at least currently and perhaps never) get as bright as LCD/LED, the colour volume is objectively still wider in testing and in real world practice. In that same Alpha scene with the sun, FOMO showed that whilst the Bravia 9 is indeed brighter, that the S95D had more colour volume. It's not night and day, but it's there. I'm not defending OLED or Samsung. I've never owned an OLED. My current TV is now a 5-6 year old Sony Bravia XF90. And I'm fully aware of Samsung's dubious motion processing and upscaling, which have broadly put me off their TVs. But the fact remains, the Samsung S95D is brighter than the LG G4, and so is currently the brightest OLED TV available on the consumer market at the moment.

[@wavebend1474]

has your opinion on the Bravia 9 changed over time? Your review has contributed to my purchase of the B9 btw.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

My opinions are that the 75 and 85 inches are substantially better than the 65, although the 65 is still no slouch. Depending on use case, I think this TV really can scratch the itch of every consumer in some way. It's a jack of all trades tv. I actually wasn't able to buy it since I'm getting married next month and my money has been going toward that, but I've gotten a lot of hands on time at best buy. They have the a95l hanging below the Bravia 9, and I still think the Bravia 9 offers more to my taste

[@wavebend1474]

@@SpencersStuffTV Hey congrats on getting married! Thanks for answering so damn fast, that's not something I usually get from any youtuber lol. Do you know if the 65 inch has a worse panel or something? Or is it just the amount of dimming zones? I personally bought a 65inch without having ever looked at the 75/85 as there were no demos of them. But just to let you know that you are the one reviewer that truly sold me on the Bravia 9, when you said it had this "naturalness" when watching nature documentaries and I knew exactly what you meant. Although now I'm second guessing whether I should've gone for a A95L or even S95D lol. But ultimately don't have much regrets coz as you said it's a jack of all trades.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@wavebend1474 I wouldn't second guess your purchase at all..it is just the amount of local dimming zones really. The 65 doesn't have as many as the largest sizes. The picture quality on the 65 is still stellar. My review was based off the 65 inch version, so if that blew me away when I saw it initially, I know it's an amazing tv

[@wavebend1474]

@@SpencersStuffTV thanks, it's hard to not have FOMO though lol but I trust your advice.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@wavebend1474 I understand completely. You have a great tv. I promise!

[@AndrewDCDrummond]

In the UK everything else will outsell the 65 inch Bravia 9

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@AndrewDCDrummond probably. I was surprised you didn't get the bigger panels

[@Sey357]

WOW 👑SONY GOD FOREVER 🥇✌️👑

[@Buzza235]

Could easily tell the difference between oled and mini led.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Buzza235 you usually can for very different reasons.

[@michaelfoster3441]

The bravia 9 is an amazing mini led the best ever , I saw in person a few weeks ago in person and I got to put my flash drive in for my space movies I love not for me the contrast wasn't no were the same ad oled I will take the infinite contrast on my Panasonic MZ2000 MLA and A95L over brightness every day of the week .

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@michaelfoster3441 I mentioned that in the video. You don't have the pixel level control to get the same specular highlights on a small scale, but the Panasonic and a95l still cannot touch the Bravia 9s full field brightness or larger window brightness. It's all down to preference. I prefer that over the star field personally. Nothing wrong with either preference. I appreciate you commenting. What tv do you have?

[@michaelfoster3441]

@SpencersStuff1777 I have Panasonic MZ2000 MLA and A95L and the best tv in my house is the Panasonic MZ2000, they are a bit better at processing than Sony when it comes to movies in my opinion , they have a Hollywood colurists tune there tvs and it shows.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@michaelfoster3441 both tvs are beautiful man. I've always wanted to see the panasonics. There's really nowhere available here to see them. If I ever get a chance to see one, I'll absolutely be covering it. Are you holding off for a little while on tvs, or are you looking to upgrade? I know the a95l is obviously new, but some people upgrade quickly!

[@michaelfoster3441]

@SpencersStuff1777 I am holding off for the 2025 pentonic chip set for Panasonic and Sony for 2025 both will have 4 hdmi 2.1 ports finally .Panasonic is the King of accuracy even better than Sonyi love both though .

[@ER43304]

@@michaelfoster3441 I wish Panasonic still offered TVs in the US market. My ZT60 plasma was a fantastic TV for its time

[@budthecyborg4575]

he best gaming display on the market right now is the LG G4, people are buying high end TVs for pure gaming, and Sony really dropped the ball in this regard.

[@Redridge07]

What? sony has OLED in the Bravia 8, no ball dropped.

[@thatsamazin-]

I shared that opinion until I watched tech with KG’s video on the S95D. It looked best in most gaming scenes and I love the color brightness of the Qd oled so I think he changed my mind.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

The g4 is extremely impressive. It offers a higher peak brightness than the Samsung, but you run into issues with color volume reduction at that brightness. It's a tradeoff. We need to talk about more detail than just "gaming." There are a lot of gamers out there who don't play shooters or fast paced games to where ever microsecond matters.

[@Redridge07]

@@SpencersStuffTV I hear ya. If you are gaming at a level where you are overly concerned about microseconds.. I would buy a top-of-the-line gaming monitor.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Redridge07 you're speaking the truth. I see too many reviewers saying they're hardcore gamers, yet you're on an 85 inch tv. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me haha. But to each their own. I can give up a few milliseconds if I'm more immersed in what I'm playing.

[@flapoliticking]

PLEASE HELP! Bravia 9 85" or X90L 98".....This is really a tough one for me. The wow factor of the 98" will be amazing but it appears the Bravia 9 is the best TV ever produced.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

Hey man! They had the x90l 98inch in the room as well! I can easily say the Bravia 9 outperformed it in every aspect. I personally would get the Bravia 9 OR wait to see if Sony brings out an upgraded large format tv next year.

[@welshcaesar]

Love Sony. I'm still getting the Sony 95l.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@welshcaesar there's nothing wrong with getting the a95l. Its still a fantastic tv

[@Sabundy]

I respect Sony for taking the risk on this. Heaven knows they have taken a lot of flack for making a non OLED flagship, but it is increasingly looking like Sony had good reasons for doing this.

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Sabundy as they keep honing this tech in, it will only get better. There's definitely a market for these types of products. Glad people are being receptive toward it... Granted I've come across a ton of OLED fanboys who always put the technology down. It's a shame. They're missing out on a great product

[@gbej1]

The A95L still remains Sony’s flagship TV despite it being released last year

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@gbej1 it's their flagship OLED. Correct. However the B9 is their flagship 4k tv for 2024

[@gbej1]

@@SpencersStuffTV For 2024 yes but their current flagship TV regardless of technology or year of production is still the A95L, at least as far as I’m aware. This is not a dig at the B9 by the way. In addition, I don’t know about the U.S. or Canada but in literally every other country the 77 inch A95L from last year is still more expensive than even the 83 inch B9. In the UK, the 83 inch B9 is £500 cheaper than even the smaller 77inch A95L released last year. That gap will probably widen as it doesn’t seem Sony are dropping the price of the A95L. I’m considering the 83 inch as I already have the 77 inch Sony OLED but I’m concerned about the viewing angle of the B9 which may be a problem with our living room set which is currently fine with the OLED.

[@NexGenTek]

@@SpencersStuffTVExactly

[@allanblyth6150]

Can we see the picture then, instead of your face (no offence)

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@allanblyth6150 all good! I agree. I wish I could record it more. Unfortunately don't have the TV in front of me and I had limited opportunity to record. It's part of a small channel, I don't make any money doing this, so tvs have to be bought out of pocket. I'm working to grow this channel so I can start showing the tvs more instead of myself lol.

[@Samzep]

It’s actually very average I had it up against the average bravia 8 and the 8 is better

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Samzep that's down to your opinion. For my use case, I found the Bravia 9 was better.

[@Samzep]

@@SpencersStuffTV no I had 3 people and I had both in professional mode with very similar settings it’s not hard to see which is better just because 9 is brighter means nothing it washes some bits out will never be oled

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Samzep and as I said, it's down to your opinion. What catches one person's eye may not catch another's. Good for you you'll get to save a little money on the Bravia 8. The sdr performance on oleds still is sub par, dealing with constant dimming when playing/watching anything with logos on screen is also a problem. My use case deals with alot of logos, and oleds really aren't great for that. Plus the brightness dip on full field HDR is not great either. I'd still take the Bravia 9 for my use

[@Samzep]

@@SpencersStuffTV i don’t watch much sdr all my content is 4k sport and hdr movies and tv shows oled is king I also have a90j 83 and if you paid me to swap it for brav 9 i wouldn’t!

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@Samzep I have a 65 inch a90j as my current tv and I'm ready to switch lol. I've had enough headaches playing games with it and dealing with abl constantly. Especially when watching sports or gaming

[@johnlerma9753]

Bro be real. Noone gives af about filmmaker mode it's a fake mode. Real life doesn't look like filmmaker mode. Standard colorful is the mode close to. This standard filmmaker is disgusting

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@johnlerma9753 I am not a huge fan of filmmaker mode either lol. I always say "if you want to neuter your tv, throw it on filmmaker mode." To me I'd rather use the tvs processing and make a lifelike, punchy, and enjoyable image that brings a sense of immersion. I can buy a projector if I want filmmaker accuracy

[@gertiasllani3564]

Rubbish review Samsung blow away sony and lg ! QD-OLED is the best

[@SpencersStuffTV]

@@gertiasllani3564 that's all down to your opinion. Just as much as my review is an opinion. It's all down to how you're using your TV and what you're looking for. There is no "best" product since every use case is different.

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

A95L is QD-OLED also and it's better than Samsung's QD-OLED. Better luck next time, troll.