7. Joseph and the Hyksos Pharaohs

[@jerolvilladolid]

Im suicidal after my partner left me and i lost my job just 2 months apart. But ive always loved history. And watching hours of your lectures help calm my mind. Thank you bruce gore

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for your honesty. I'd be happy to hear from you privately if you wish. [e-mail]

[@christiandelorde5887]

Ever think about trying Jesus Christ?? It's worth a try before choosing suicide. How bad could it be?

[@jasondorris6408]

Hang on brother...we need you healthy, around and alive...God loves you and requests for you to hold on and strengthen for His purpose...we got this my friend

[@Talpiot8200]

My brother in Christ, keep going. You’re meant to be here. Like Bruce says, we can’t see the ends, but God always has the means. Love you G.

[@jesseparrish1993]

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[@victoriakidd-cromis1124]

this is the first time I have had the pleasure of listening to one of your lectures. I'll end up binge-watching the rest of them over Christmas.

[@melissas8507]

Your lectures are better than any audible book or great course lecture. Outstanding! I'm learning so much! Thanks

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

I just want to say that your speaking ability is excellent! I could listen to you all day. Wonderful content as well!

[@whattookUsolong]

again I say THANK YOU for taking the time to upload your lectures! you are generous, indeed.

[@GoreBruce]

My pleasure...and thank you!

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[@PeteJab]

How much training did Joseph have about the Lord from his father before he was sold into slavery? After spending that much time in Egypt you would think he would’ve forgotten about the Lord. On the contrary, the Lord was leading and guiding him all along. Through the thick and thin of it all our Lord is so involved in our lives that we often think He is no where to be found. This video about Joseph is a reminder of just how intricately involved our God is in our lives and we don’t even realize it.

[@toobalkain]

your "Lord" Baal?

[@PeteJab]

@@toobalkain Baal is a dead god.

[@toobalkain]

@@PeteJab a dead god, OK. So who's your lord now then?

[@masada2828]

Joseph was 17 when he was sold into Egypt. Baal means god but god is an object of worship, an idol at that. The God of the Israelites has a name, Yahweh. 😮

[@jasondorris6408]

J.Vernon McGee does a wonderful introspective journey about Jacob in through Joseph...much more actually...the series is called "through the bible"

[@gustavoabreu3097]

Thanks bruce for posting these lectures on KZbin I've been reading the bible and using your lectures for context and it have been a blessing! Cheers from Brazil!

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@bunwat223]

While your audience there are mostly old, I'm here watching as a 23 years old

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you! That means a lot to me!

[@rossd6809]

that's old for a cat.😃

[@masterchief6627]

@@rossd6809 young for an elephant

[@mikeyseo]

im 38. and i first learned about hyksos around your age. Today... im a korean...and i think ive made a remarkable discovery about the Hyksos and can prove that they are in fact Hebrew Israeilites....but even going further it appears the Hyksos went to Korea and establishing the Nation of Korea or known as Joshen. (Goshen)m the first korean king from this line being the founder of Silla or Saro...or Shiloh. and his name was Park Hyuk guh se ,,,Bahk Hysos.

[@jamellfoster6029]

I love how this lecture ties in the Bible with history... I have always been a great lover of history & I'm a Christian... Thanks so much... I'm not exactly young nor am I old (I'm 42)...

[@tedgemberling2359]

I wonder why Gore never mentions the really striking fact that two Hyksos pharaohs had names similar to Jacob, Yakubher and Yakobaam. You can find this in Peter Clayton's book Chronicle of the Pharaohs.

[@GoreBruce]

Clayton's book is an excellent resource. Thanks for reminding us of that.

[@kapambwesknowledge6117]

Well if the hyksos were edomites, Jacob's brother there names would be similar

[@TrevisWamuthenya]

love your work sir

[@Talpiot8200]

Beautiful bow tied on at the end. God bless you and everyone here

[@robertstiver2788]

Correction: The Bible specifically says in Genesis 47:28 that "[Jacob] lived in the land of Egypt seventeen years, and the length of his life was 147 years." So Jacob did NOT die at 130 as the instructor erroneously taught, but was finally reunited with his firstborn son from his favored wife (Rebekah), Joseph, at the age of 130 and God allowed him to be with his family for 17 years in Goshen before laying down with his forefathers per his dying wish in the cave that is in the field of Ephron, in Caanan (the namesake of the land being from the wicked grandson of Noah who fathered this Godless nation of immoral and amoral baby-killers). Also, Joseph, whose name was changed to Zaphenath-Paneah (meaning "Revealer of Hidden Things” to the Hebrews, but to the Egyptians it perhaps meant “The God Said: He Will Live!”) when he was made Viceroy, was the Food Administrator and savior of the known world and foreshadowed the Messiah, Jesus Christ, who would be installed as the Chief (Viceroy) Administrator of Spiritual Food and be the Savior of Mankind.

[@GoreBruce]

Yes indeed, I did misspeak at 29:10 in the video, although I did make it clear (I believe) that Jacob enjoyed several years with his family and especially Joseph, while living in the region of Goshen. Thanks for the correction.

[@charlied4850]

Jacob’s favored wife was Rachael. Rebekah was Isaac’s wife and Jacob’s mother.

[@henrikmetz3541]

This is very important information, and makes things clear that many of us don't know about. Thanks for the video.

[@lh7550]

I think the story of Joseph leaves us a Most Important message: "God Permits the Worst Things in Life to be Turned into the Greatest Blessings upon Humans Making the Right Choice".

[@jackjones9460]

I love listening to these classes when I’m working around my house.

[@emmanueldsa4083]

Me too!

[@BryonLape]

Over the years, I've heard many interpretations of the evidence for the Exodus in Egypt and for me, David Rohl has the most open and honest assessment.

[@shinchosun]

Thank you for this superb lecture . I am going to catch up all your lectures .

[@moinwani8687]

The story of Joseph is a very beautiful story ❤

[@brandonshapiro3194]

Really, Joseph taxed the people to corner the grain market and then when they had none took all their money, all their cattle and then all their land and enslaved them. Sounds like an evil Jew swindler to me.

[@rosesacks7430]

Joseph "What you intended for harm, God intended for good "

[@AJNpa80]

There was a lot of that doing harm and calling it good in the Goatherders Guide to the Galaxy.

[@StonyLaRoux311]

@@AJNpa80 right, but the point was taking an imperfect people and guiding them back to "the way" after the original understanding was shattered. They did bad thing and suffered the reasonably expected consequences, learning the cause along the way- usually self interest. As the bible progresses, the morality progresses. The Old Testament is the beginning and shows the struggle of people to stop doing bad things and not relapse. The New Testament condenses the big lesson from the Old Testament into the Golden Rule, then expounds on this "new" idea. Could it be that goathearders understood the other religions of that time better than we do and rejected them for good reason?

[@philipcallicoat3147]

Thanks for the Sunday School lesson!!! Well done 🕊️🌹✝️

[@hihello-yv2tt]

The first humans are Adam and his wife who are our father and mother. There is no ethnic group superior over another. There is no mistake in The Quran but there is many mistakes in the Bible that the Quran mentions correctly such as the position of the leader in Egypt in the society of Prophet Yusuf (Joseph). The Quran mentions he was a king and the Bible mentions he was a pharaoh. The Quran is correct and more recently the Rosetta Stone was decoded and what was found is that leader was a king and not a pharaoh. Islam is The true religion with undeniable proof and evidence. We Muslims believe in Jesus but not as God and we don’t believe God has a son. Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet and Messenger Of Allah (God) and he is the messiah. He wasn’t killed as Allah saved him before they could get to him. There is also scientific and historical miracles mentioned in the Quran such as the formation of the human embryo as well as the creation of honey in bees. There are Islamic prophecies that came true and will come true and I recommend everyone to try and learn about them. I myself know of people who were ill and suffering with issues (including black magic) and got cured miraculously when the Quran was recited over them. I invite everyone to learn about Islam.

[@alexl5660]

@@hihello-yv2ttthe Quran is a lie

[@WalterRMattfeld]

The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (circa 70 AD) in his _Antiquities of the Jews_, was of the opinion that the Hyksos Expulsion of circa 1540 BC was the Egyptian version of the Bible's Exodus account. He cited an Egyptian History written in Greek by Manetho, an Egyptian priest circa 300 BC. Manetho thought the biblical Exodus was recounting the expulsion of Jews under Pharaohs Sethos and Rameses (circa 1260 BC). The Bible has Joshua destroying Jericho, burning it, after its walls collapse. Dame Kathleen Kenyon excavated Jericho and found its last wall fell during the Hyksos Expulsion of circa 1540 BC. Kenyon found in the debris of the fallen walls (felled by earthquake) evidence of a severe burning, ash everywhere. Egyptologists, Kenneth A. Kitchen and James K. Hoffmeier, who have carefully read the Bible, have concluded that the time elapsing from the Exodus to Solomon's building of the temple is not 480 years (1 Kings 6:1), rather, it is nearly 600 years, aligning the Exodus with the Hyksos Expulsion. But they prefer an Exodus of circa 1260 BC. My own research understands a conflation exists of events from 2000 BC to 560 BC, when the account was probably written in the Babylonian Exile (Moses being portrayed as predicting said Exile in De 30:1-4). Google "Mattfeld Hyksos Exodus," for more info. Several proposals exist for Mount Sinai, but there is no agreement. The problem? Scholars demand a site with archaeological evidence of an occupation (usually pottery) for the different Exodus dates that have been proposed (1540 BC, 1446 BC, 1260 BC), and have stated no such site exists. My research has proved them wrong. There are two sites which possess the missing pottery: (1) Serabit el Khadim has pottery for all three Exodus dates and (2) Timna, also called "The Pillars of Solomon," in the Arabah, south of the Dead Sea has Ramesside 1170 BC pottery. Site (1) has Hyksos pottery as well as Ramesside pottery. Site (2) Has Rameside pottery of Pharaoh Ramesses III. Both sites also have Egyptian inscriptions left behind, honoring the Pharaohs who established the two Sinai mining camps. For more info Google "Mattfeld Mount Sinai Proposals."

[@gayleklein7243]

Related data to this excellent lecture - Securing timelines in the ancient Mediterranean using multiproxy annual tree-ring data www.pnas.org/content/117/15/8410 The Thera eruption is rated between a 6 and 7 on the volcanic explosivity index scale and thought to be the cause of a major Chandler Wobble (tilting of the Earth's axis via the sloshing of the liquid core). All of the Biblical plagues save the slaying of the firstborn can be attributed to this one event and I was rather surprised that it was not mentioned in this lecture, particularly since it's probable that the entire Mediterranean coast was inundated by water from a tsunami. The PNAS citation pins down the date of the eruption to 1650 B.C.E., but there's some wiggle room with this date simply because tree ring data is subject to localized weather conditions and human interpretation. A word about the Hyksos capital city, Avaris (possibly the root of the English word avarice?) - There is a place in the Russian Caucasus where an ethnic group calling themselves the Avars still reside. A look at their folk artwork prominently features both Hindu and offset swastikas. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avars_(Caucasus) Another word - Isra - (Sanskrit) Night journey. El - (Sanskrit) G-d. One of the many Ashkenazi hereditary ailments is a condition called Bloom Syndrome. A symptom of that disease is photosensitivity; another is dwarfism. And the last word - There's a sura in the Qu'ran titled, "The Children of Israel" that's a rather interesting read.

[@raloniusmaximus]

@Robinson Pittman take this with a grain of salt because it's from Wikipedia, but read this: "The Council of Jamnia, presumably held in Yavneh in the Holy Land, was a hypothetical late 1st-century council at which the canon of the Hebrew Bible was formerly believed to have been finalized and which may also have been the occasion when the Jewish authorities decided to exclude believers in Jesus as the Messiah from synagogue attendance, as referenced by interpretations of John 9:22 in the New Testament. The writing of the Birkat ha-Minim benediction is attributed to Shmuel ha-Katan at the supposed Council of Jamnia. The theory that Jamnia finalised the canon, first proposed by Heinrich Graetz in 1871, was popular for much of the 20th century. However, it was increasingly questioned from the 1960s onward, and the theory has been largely discredited."

[@goldsteinman]

jews are labeled as liar in islam

[@masada2828]

The chronology is wrong. The Exodus was 1445 BC, Solomon’s Temple was built 965 BC. Kathleen Kenyon noted the walls of Jericho fell in & the dating was much earlier than 1230.

[@Bazooka_Sharks]

@@masada2828kenyon is such a dishonest joke. Besides, they also found scarabs in graveyards at jericho after her time. One of the scarabs was of Hatshepsut, female pharoah until amenhotep II was of age to take the throne. Hes the exodus pharoah. Anyway the scarabs are there showing the destruction wasnt in the 16th century. The destruction of jericho was in 1406bc. The other two archaeologists who dug there before and after her confirm this. She based her results on “lack of a certain pottery from cypris “ or some stupid nonsense. except then they found canaanite clone versions of that pottery style. Kenyon sucks.

[@canadiankewldude]

Brilliant educational videos, I use them to help educate my children. Thank you Bruce.

[@nardaalfaro2622]

canadiankewldude i

[@canadiankewldude]

Can you believe it, I'm still asleep, believing it is actual history. Sorry Isaac lad.

[@lavieenrose5954]

canadiankewldude Touché :)

[@happyman42]

Question, wasn't the Exodus in the 1415 and prior to that 430 years of slavery?

[@shannonwhiteman3424]

I was thinking same thing although I dated it closer to 1440. To this point it would make Abraham born around the 2100 bc which I always thought. You have to slide that 430 Inside Egypt in there somewhere. Abraham had to be born just a bit before the 12th dynasty making Joseph more at end of that dynasty. This wears me out.. lol

[@teemorris5757]

This was so relaxing and the best ever. ❤❤

[@RichardSpeights]

Excellent. Great lecture. You have clarified what has been for so long muddy. (I'm sure someone has already noticed, but this fellow sound just like Jack Benny.)

[@walterulasinksi7031]

To get a. Proper chronology, one needs to work backwards from the Exodus, which can only be determined by the combination of the Stele of Ahmose, the Hebrew narrative and the tectonic activity leading up to the volcanic eruption of Thera( Santorini) circa 1550 BCE from that the Hebrew narrative has them in Goshen( the delta area) for 435 years. That places Joseph in Egypt circa 1985 BCE. So this lecture regarding Abraham and Isaac must be adjusted accordingly. Additionally, as per the Hebrew narrative, “ Then there came a Pharaoh that did not know of Joseph” . This makes sense when the Hyksos intruded into Egypt Circa 1750 BCE Joseph would have been dead for at least 100 years. If one asks any structural engineer familiar with conditions in the Mississippi delta, will tell you that under delta sediment conditions, it will not immediately support monumental stone work of the 19th Dynasty, especially with the archeological evidence of river stone foundations. The only kind of structure that such foundations could initially support would be dried mud brick as testified to in the Hebrew narrative. With the consolidation of the sediments and drying for circa 300 years, it then could support the monumental stone work of Ramses II during a rebuilding of the. City.

[@Drakemiser]

I'm trying to understand where the 400 years of enslavement went. If these dates are right, and we believe in a 1450 BC Exodus, then this would only amount to 120 years tops. I guess that's how others get the 1200BC Exodus, but from my studies the 1450 BC Exodus makes more sense. But here--and I mean no offense to Dr. Gore--he's having his cake and eating it too. He says the Exodus happens in 1450, but the dates are off.

[@walterulasinksi7031]

@@Drakemiser this is a mis-conception. The Hebrew account states that they resided in Egypt for around 400 years. Is does not mean that they were slaves all that time. The Exodus story has it that, “ Then came Pharaoh that did not know of Joseph”. Within the Egyptian chronology, the Hyksos incursion occurred Circa1750 BCE. Since the Canaanite migration to Egypt had occurred Circa 1900’s BCD, that would indicate tat for a period of roughly 200 years, there were good relations between the Hebrews and the ruling pharaohs. Since both the Hebrews and the Hyksos are residing in the Delta, the Hyksos ruler( pharaoh), would have taken over all control of the region and did not have any knowledge of relations or agreements between thx Hebrews and the Dynastic Egyptian Pharaohs.. such is implied in the phrase, a change in rulership. During the period of the Hyksos, there were two Pharaohs. The Dynastic one at Abydos, and the Hyksos one at one of the two cities they built in the Delta. Ramses, the military garrison, and Avaris, the administrative location a few kilometers away. Excavations at both sites indicate that they were built on river stone foundations with Mud Brick above. This is in accordance with the Hebrew account that the Hebrews were forced to build two cities of mud brick. And from the standpoint of structural engineering, the moisture laden sediments of the Delta could not support great weights, plus the stone quarries were in upper Egypt, under the control of the Dynastic Pharaoh. Therefore a period of forced servitude( slavery) would have lasted 150-200 years. Until the Hyksos were expelled fromEgypt by Ahmose, the first Pharaoh of the 18th Dynasty. Circa 1550-1500 BCE.

[@jameskinney52]

@@Drakemiser KZbin NathanH83 How long were the Israelites in Egypt . Interesting concept!

[@WhirledPublishing]

Since the Bible says nothing about 6,000 years ... If believing in timeline lies from fake carbon dating and fake chemical analysis, fake pottery analysis and fake handwriting analysis ... bought and paid for by the evil overlords that control the banks and the money, the politicians and military forces, the universities and schools and multi-billion dollar publishing houses that print the lies in schoolbooks and in university textbooks, you're free to choose that evil ... Since your evil overlords also control the rigged stock markets - worldwide - while controlling the corporate board members, CEO's, federal agencies, etc., you're free to bow down to the hybrid spawn of satan that control your mind - but no one with a functioning conscience would be on their knees to those creatures ... Since the New Testament mentions Augustus Caesar and Tiberius and since they lived c1400 - c1500 ... 500 to 600 years ago... and since the true timeline for our human history is clearly documented in thousands of sources, written in dozens of languages from all across our Earth, you're free to be a liar ... or you can break free of the demonic deception and stop this psychosis.

[@hae-meo-sum]

I got a sense that come into mind. The time period where Joseph the dream catcher went through trial and harship becoming heroic figure. The connection between the series is still remindful. Thanks for uploading the video.

[@jamellfoster6029]

It makes sense that Joseph would prosper under the rule of an Asiatic/Aramaic pharaoh & that the native Egyptians who abhorred the Hyksos would treat the Israelites with such hostility to the point of enslaving them... Great presentation...

[@brandonshapiro3194]

The Jews were the Hyksos. The story is a story of Joseph swindling and enslaving the native population.

[@jondeauyann8591]

Hi can you please explain how did you get the dates in this very interesting lecture, such as 1640BC Joseph death, 1670 BC Joseph becomes vizier.

[@GoreBruce]

These dates are generally inferred from other dates that are well established (e.g., the Exodus was c. 1447 b.c., based on the fact that Solomon began construction of the temple 480 years after the Exodus). I deal with this in some detail in my book, Historical and Chronological Context of the Bible, available from Amazon. Thanks for your interest.

[@BachBeethovenBerg]

Was there anything in history towards the end of the Hyksos dynasty that indicated an economic shift where Pharaoh suddenly owned all the land and the people have to give a fifth of the produce to Pharaoh like the Genesis text describes?

[@GoreBruce]

Not to my knowledge. That came later.

[@lifepower4981]

Great work and based on solid historical evidence. In my own research I found it a certainty that Joseph was the vizier of a Hyksos Pharaoh.

[@peacelove6455]

That sounds reasonable but the Exodus is definitely describing the expulsion of Hyksos. The Bible states that the Pharoah was scared of the great numbers of Israelites (foreigners) and feared an invasion. This perfectly describes the great number of Hyksos people who were invading Egypt. But the Hyksos were never slaves in Egypt, which questions the slavery mentioned in the Bible.

[@Koyasi78]

@@peacelove6455 there was an exodus. When ahmose finally expelled hyksos from egypt after 500 years

[@Bazooka_Sharks]

Idk, the bible states small details like joseph clean shaving to go meet pharoah… thats not really a thing youd worry about with the hyskos.. Also, pharoah killed all the young hebrew boys when their number was great, he didnt expel them. Pharoah in the bible wasnt trying to part with the slaves Egypts timeline is freaking confusing

[@wesdale1753]

No offense teacher, with all my respect, l do hope you bring up all the black prominent Pharoahs of Egypt. From Mauritius.

[@gusomoya]

Thank you for these series!

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

Yes, the commenter is correct, Genesis 47:28 tells us that Joseph died at 147

[@guychase5842]

Were the Hyksos not CANAANITES - ? ancient Hebrew was a Canaanite language - “Manetho” cannot have written much ?

[@jfurl5900]

What sources do you have for those dates about Joseph and Abraham ? . i never knew that there were such exact dates .

[@GoreBruce]

Well, the dates are 'best estimates' based on other biblical data. For example, we are told in 1 Kings 6:1 that the construction of the temple under Solomon started 480 years after the Exodus, which would put the date of the Exodus at about 1447 b.c. We are also told that the time from the Covenant with Abraham to the Covenant with Moses was 430 years (by Paul in Galatians). If you do a little arithmetic, and note the age of Abraham at various points in his life, you'll find that his birth was sometime close to 1951 b.c.

[@blusheep2]

The dates aren't as exact as they seem. When it comes to the 430 years there is a difference between the Masoretic texts and the Septuagint and the Samaritan Penteteuch which suggests that the Masoretic text is inaccurate. In the Masoretic text it says in Exodus 12:40 "Now the time that the sons of Israel lived in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years." The Septuagint and the Samaritan Pentateuch say, "Now the time that the sons of Israel lived in EGYPT and CANAAN was four hundred and thirty years." Genesis 46 tells us that 70 Sons of Jacob went to Egypt which included the sons of Levi, Girshom, Kohath, and Marari. Exodus 6:18-20 says that Kohath lived 133 years and Omran father of Moses lived 137 years. If we add these ages together and assign an age to Moses of 80 years at the time of the Exodus then we know that the longest they could have been in Egypt must have been less than 350 years. Galatians actually cofirms this reading because Paul's parameters were between the giving of the Abrahamic Covenant and the law was 430 years. Not the time in Egypt. Then we can look at history. Joseph is said to have ridden a chariot. The chariot didn't come to Egypt until 1666 BC and so Joseph must have come around 1600 BC and after the introduction of the chariot.

[@coxfordGamer]

Jacob was 147 when he died 130 when he went down to Egypt

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for joining several others who caught that misstatement.

[@coxfordGamer]

@Bruce Gore was awesome video

[@juanbenjume7660]

thank you so much for your videos to all those who love the Word of God and Love History and Learning we are greatfull .God Bless him in Jesus Name Amen

[@snowrider4495]

You better thank the jews, flavian family and josephus for writing their fairytale old & new testament you love so much! It's all man made you can research for yourself unless your hellbent on pretending!

[@Linkz03]

@@snowrider4495 actually no do research yourself and you'll see the bible is pretty accurate to history. No one I've talked to did research (probably like yourself) to refute bible teaching, fundamental, principles, and science as false. And technically everything is made man, including ww2, ww1, America and the 2016 presidential election. So making a statement like yours behooves me to make you feel insecure about ideas cuz you sound like a crazy liberal (conservative if u are one as well which is worse) who just yells things out before speaking it

[@snowrider4495]

@@Linkz03 lol your funny! have you ever heard of Bart Ehrman? its obvious you only look to the buybull for your answers! its a shame you dont want to research the validity of the buybull to find out where it actually came from and why the romans wrote it? what does a political view have to do with anything? smh! I'm sorry I hurt your feelings!

[@Linkz03]

@@snowrider4495 if you looked at what the Roman's do they literally find any religion and turn it to their comic. Some of the of the greek mythology goes to the bible moses being neptune the god of the sea because moses splits the red sea to escape the Egyptians. In the bible itself when Paul was being transported to Rome to testify to ceasar himself their boat crash, ended up on a island with snakes and a tribe they met there, and got bitten by a snake and survived and they called Paul and the Roman's sons of Zeus's because it was carved in the boat they tribe made for them to get back to Rome. And I never asked for burt viewpoints, asked for yours. You cant come here talking shit (which I made the analogy of Democrats and conservatives talking about shit they don't know making the whole scene laughable because of the stupidity) if you want to criticize then do it but back your bull back. Roman's saw where Christianity was going when the saducucees where persecuting jesus. They choose a criminal who killed alot over jesus because he didnt fit in their political agenda while jesus remain neutral politically because his government ( heavenly If you read the bible) would not be on this earth at this time because people do not have the ability to keep control. Even if they did people die and its amnesia all over again, therefore God will take over after judging all humankind and allow people to repent and gain perfection after 1000 years. Comment when you can bring some info, then the discussion can continue.

[@snowrider4495]

@@Linkz03 the buybull is a comic book and so is all religions! I'm sorry I hurt your feelings but all the assertions do not make it true! Dont you think it's time to put up your religious toys and quit pretending in imaginary friends, your an adult act like one! It's sad with all the research people can do today on where the buybull actually came from and you want to pretend in fairytales without any proof! I feel sorry for endoctrinated people like you that do not wish to stop pretending! Look into Bart Erhman for starters!

[@drsbrettsavage]

Very well grounded, thanks for the faithful approach.

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

Joseph(Yusef) was Yuya, adviser to pharaoh who had dream about digging out sphinx and making Egypt monotheistic later in the 18th dynasty.

[@JAHtony1111]

Before Sumeria where did the hyksos/amorites come from? I'll check ur earlier vid.

[@GoreBruce]

The Amorites appear to be related to the descendents of Ham/Canaan (Gen. 10:16).

[@JAHtony1111]

@@GoreBruce thanks

[@thomassmith6232]

If I recall correctly, Joseph warned his family that shepherds were an anathema to the Egyptians, so maybe Pharaoh was already resented by the populace.

[@Matt-cj5us]

How can any accurate dates connected to egypt be reliable?

[@somniumisdreaming]

The God knows best, be grateful looking back at hard times as he had a plan,fails in the context of the final solution imo. I cant get past that, it seems He abandoned his chosen people. Really enjoying these lectures, thank you for sharing them with us.

[@Mrguy-ds9lr]

Hi. You have to look at the whole time line. Ultimately they will be saved. A 1000 years is like a day to the Lord, and a day like a 1000 years. In that perspective ,it's only been 6 days. Not long, and the story is not over yet. And look at Israel today.

[@willmcpherson2]

Great lecture and great conclusion

[@GoreBruce]

+swell guy Thanks!

[@johnfrankmore2160]

I don't understand this timeline in the video at all From most recent to oldest dates: 966 BC 1 Kings 6:1 480 years after Israelites came out of Egypt, in 4th yr of Solomon's reign, he begins construction of Temple 966BC -480 yrs = 1446 1446 BC Israelites flee Egypt 1876 BC Jacob and family enter Egypt (around 70 people) Exodus 12:40 The Israelites spent 430 years in Egypt 1446BC + 430 yrs = 1876BC

[@GoreBruce]

The common understanding in Jewish tradition, as reflected in the LXX and elsewhere, is that Exodus 12:40 should be read to include Canaan, which at the time was under Egyptian jurisdiction. Thus the 430 years represents the span of time from the covenant with Abraham (Gen. 15) to the Exodus. This is the view assumed by the Apostle Paul in Galatians 3:17, where he mentions the four hundred thirty years as spanning the time from Abraham to Moses.

[@johnfrankmore2160]

Ok, thanks bruce

[@pyroglyphicsglass]

You're going backwards. Bc means you need to subtract how many years they spent in Egypt to move forward, not back

[@masada2828]

john frankmore - Your basically correct. Exodus was 1407 BC. Solomon’s Temple was 927 BC 480 years later; but the 430 years in Egypt was counted from the time Abraham entered Canaan. The 430 years incorporated Isaac, Jacob and Joseph as well as the years of slavery, your dates are correct.

[@josephscottadams39]

@@GoreBruce I never knew this. Awesome! Most Christians think that the Hebrew's were in slavery for 430 years

[@moetravelvlog8643]

An interesting lecture. As a truth seeker, I was interested in the holly books at some point in my life. I studied the Bible and Quran and noticed something that may support your theory on the Hyksos. I came to the same conclusion as you that Joseph as was present in Egypt at the time where Hyksos ruled the land of Egypt by studying time tables of event based on the bible and historical findings. The interesting part that I noticed that in the Quran that in the story of Joseph the ruler of Egypt was referred to as King not Pharaoh which is very interesting since everywhere in the Quran when referring to rulers of Egypt it was always mentioned as Pharaohs except when talking about Joseph story. There are countless references to Pharaohs in the Quran especially when talking about the time of Moses but when talking about Jospeh the ruler was called "King". I think this proves your point since the Hyksos were not Egyptians so it makes sense that they are called kings not Pharaoh. Having said this, this is not endorsement of any book over another I am just stating my findings. I am interested in finding archaeological evidences for the existence of Joseph. I appreciate if you have some information on this.

[@GoreBruce]

Interesting observation. Thanks!

[@zevyzevness3800]

Bruce Gore yeah interesting observation!!!! I was wondering, if semites were black or white?

[@smak387]

Wow. Great point. Can you make a video or discussion on this? I think the Hyksos were Dannites like the Spartans from the Tribe of Dan.

[@Koyasi78]

Pharaoh is not an egyptian term used until after the hyksos expulsion. Egyptians referred to their leaders as king. Pharaoh is what hyksos conquers called themselves.

[@robinlillian9471]

@@zevyzevness3800 Strangely enough, that concept didn't exist back then. It's only modern people like you who are bigots. "Black" and "white" are social constructs from about the time of the African slave trade to the Americas, and have nothing to do with ethnicity. North Africans were called Moors in Shakespeare's time. Israel/Canaan is in ASIA.

[@wonder5487]

How do they figure the age of Jacob at the time he went to Haran? Also, you mentioned in the 8. installment of this series that you did a teaching on the specific plagues in Egypt and how they correlated to their gods. Thank you!

[@dcrunicycles]

Thank you Romans 8:28 And we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, [even] to them that are called according to [his] purpose. Interesting that the godliness of joseph forgave his brothers and blessed them. The Salvation of Jesus is wonderful and exceedingly great Y

[@Odonanmarg]

Where did the Hyksos go ?

[@ssckasey610]

so Joseph was only in prison a year or two?

[@tallterrilaw8646]

It wasn't Hatshepsut that drew Moses it was her sister Nefrubity aka Bithia. NefruBITY sister to Thutmose II, and Hatshepsut drew Wadjmose (Water Moses) and was raised by the family.

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for the clarification. Would you mind providing me the source for this hypothesis?

[@tallterrilaw8646]

Bruce Gore its my source for having a brain and having a little common sense. The time frame and family is the same conclusion as yours is it not? However look at the name of Nefrubity compared to Hatshepsut. Also the name Wadmoses. You still see recorded history of Hatshepsut but Wadmoses and Nefrubity are no longer recorded. Hmm interesting. Lastly Thutmoses the second's mummy is covered with boils. I agree with your hypothesis I just believe it's the other sister.

[@GoreBruce]

Fair enough. Thanks.

[@tallterrilaw8646]

Bruce Gore I love your videos btw :)

[@demetriusmiddleton1246]

@@GoreBruce 🤣🤣🤣

[@dlynnyahsraala2775]

10:42 is an artist rendition by Francois Champillion from 1845 of an actual tomb painting. You can see the actual Beni Hassan Tomb painting by googling Beni Hassan tomb painting.

[@James-u6i9f]

I do see lots lof lots of Egyptian documentaries and liked it all still I see documentaries of other nations but better how you put the dates and names makes me more easier and interesting who was in which kings or pharoahs time. Want more to discover.... Thank you.✝️🙏

[@bencopeland3560]

Some of the chronologies I’ve studied have Joseph going into Egypt around the leading edge of the Hyksos period. Which might indicate that his offspring in that several hundred year gap in the Bible actually were themselves the Hyksos kings. Then “a new Pharaoh came to power”, the Hyksos kings were expelled and the remaining asiatic semites would have fallen to the lowest caste in the country (may have felt like slavery to them). Put another way, the whole Hyksos period may be a giant historical and archeological elaboration on Exodus 1, verse 7 “And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.”

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

I think Joseph did go in early but the Hyksos weren't a monolithic culture. Canaanites were city states. I think Hor Awibre was Joseph.

[@bencopeland3560]

@@silencemeviolateme6076 what informs your theory that Joseph is Hor?

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

@@bencopeland3560 can we agree everything in the bible isn't perfect? It's not that they lied. For example there was no world flood at the time of Noah but there was a great regional flood. And to begin our tale Abraham of ur probably wasn't Abraham of ur. It was probably Abraham of uruk during the third dynasty of ur era, or right after its collapse.

[@bencopeland3560]

@@silencemeviolateme6076 well yeah. I agree with that as a general principle (though I think it’s Abraham of Urkesh myself). But what about Hor?

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

@@bencopeland3560 Hyksos were Canaanites. Canaan was city states. The Hyksos were a confederacy of sorts. The Hebrews were centered at Tanis where later an architrave with cartouches of Hor and his son was moved from Memphis. Hor was buried in a shaft next to a pyramid of Amenhemet III.

[@robertalpy9422]

If you look at the walls and layout of the great pyramid, it was never a tomb. The supposed kings chamber is granite and balanced on a floor that is rounded making all the granite parts sit on a fine point balanced. That granite of that kind is perfect for resonance and that the ancient arabs would tell tales of the pyramids singing leads me to believe the great pyramid had a purpose far beyond a mere burial. It never was a burial.

[@akhtarstarz]

In Quran, the ruler of Egypt during the time of Moses is called "pharoah" but the ruler during time of Joseph is called Malik "king"... You can see it in Quran chapter Surah e Yusuf.

[@spidaman0112]

Quran written centuries after.

[@vengefulavenger6411]

spidaman0112 Bibull was written centuries after.

[@raloniusmaximus]

@@vengefulavenger6411 yeah, the new testament, not necessarily the old testament

[@currentcommentor8745]

Even the old testament isn't a contemporary document. It was mostly written during the Jewish slavery in Babylon.

[@stepaushi]

What is your opinion concerning the two proposed etymologies of "Hyskos"---"shepherd kings" vs. "foreign kings"? And thank you very much for making your lectures available.

[@GoreBruce]

As I understand the matter, the precise meaning of the term 'hyksos' is disputed. I suspect both your proposed meanings may be correct, as the term may be a pejorative, so that both the word 'shepherd' and the word 'foreign' were intended to insult the rule of a non-indigenous population.

[@stepaushi]

@@GoreBruce I see. Thank you. It is really interesting how the Hyskos were there at the right time to allow the Joseph story and its sequel to take place. It seems immigrant populations taking over was unusual in ancient times and must have indicated some anomalous socio-political atmosphere that allowed it to happen in Egypt.

[@tiko2916]

Pharaoh is not the king’s title in the Egyptian history yet it a just a name of a single Hyksos king that ruled Egypt during the invasion and during his era Moses fled outside Egypt with all Jews to escape from his dictatorship and discrimination and later sank in the Red Sea while chasing Moses and Jews.., Joseph came way before that as he was the brother of Moses grandfather Lawi ., so my wild guess is that Joseph came somewhere around the 13th and 14th dynasty and Moses came around the 15th and 16the dynasty.

[@Drakemiser]

This is where things get complicated. I personally believe in the 1450 Exodus, but where is the 400 years of enslavement? Could it be that the dates are off by at least 200 years? Or is the 1250 theory more accurate?

[@GoreBruce]

The text to which you refer, Exodus 12:40, does indeed mention 430 years, the same 430 years cited by Paul in Galatians as the time span from the covenant made with Abraham to the Covenant made with Moses (Galatians 3:17). On the face of it, therefore, the migration of the people of Israel under Joseph must have taken place at a considerably later time. The text in Exodus 12:40 has traditionally been understood in Jewish reckoning to include the years in Canaan as well as in Egypt. The LXX, for example, actually renders the text of Exodus 12:40 as "Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egypt and Canaan was four hundred and thirty years." Nearly all Bible translations that I have checked actually note that point in a footnote. The likely reason that Canaan was not mentioned in the original Hebrew text was because at the time, the negeb of Canaan, where Abraham resided, was under Egyptian authority, and was generally considered part of Egypt. It's also worth noting that any genealogy provided in the Old Testament would have to skip over several generations to accommodate 400 years of slavery in Egypt, which would be unthinkable given the importance attached to family lineage at the time.

[@Drakemiser]

@@GoreBruce Huh. So the 400 years starts with Abraham and not Joseph's kin? It reads like they spent 400 years in Egypt. I've always thought they spent 400 years in. Egypt. This is eye opening. Thank you.

[@saikoa2129]

Although I appreciate the information, in the beginning of the video he said that by 1715 to 1706 Joseph son's were born but then said Joseph himself was born the year 1700??? Furthermore the 400 year's don't add up

[@richardkean5940]

I believe the Hyksos were none other than the Jacob's family who came at Joseph request. The were shepherds and also cattleman. Jacob was an expert at breeding sheep and cattle. Hyksos were called Shepherd Kings. The kings in Canaan were in much fear of Jacob and his sons so in fact he would have been considered to be the king of Canaan.

[@alexl5660]

I heard that the Hyksos were not of Semitic origin but of Hamitic. Any intel on this?

[@kapambwesknowledge6117]

Hyksos were Semtic/ Canaanites they were a mix of edom and hittites

[@stevynw1048]

An absolutely gripping lecture.

[@zevyzevness3800]

Stevyn W I know I wanted to go to the comment section to say “most interesting topic available “.....

[@chrisnewbury3793]

The Egyptians called them Heka Kasut, which phonetically sounds a lot like Heah Sakut, which means High Skythian or High Scot.

[@ram09568]

All of His judgments are righteous! Jeremiah 9:23-24

[@AhmedMahmoud-tv9vw]

I really liked that lecture, it was very informative. We - Egyptians ourselves - are not taught who the hyksós were just merely mentioning that they were Asiatic. Also at 25:49 we - Muslim Egyptians - are not anti Jewish or anti Coptic by trying to deny the the preexistence of semitic or Jewish artifacts; it's just we have a deep hatred towards the Israeli state that we don't want to hear news biased to them or their religion.

[@GoreBruce]

That is a very helpful corrective. Thank you!

[@AhmedMahmoud-tv9vw]

@John Smith could you please clarify or cite sources?

[@decay-154]

code link . Please watch David Rohls "Patterns of evidence" on you tube

[@decay-154]

@John Smith Thank you for link to Armenia . All turks are descended from Togarmahs 10 sons . I remember haik was togarmahs grandson? The Kurds also Japhetic Known as Medes in Book of Daniel and Madai in Genesis 10

[@AhmedMahmoud-tv9vw]

@John Smith well it only suggests that ancient Egyptians wear closer to the near-easterners genetically. I don't really care anyway about the origin of Ancient Egyptians.

[@OO-ld4nq]

What is the name of this master?

[@GoreBruce]

If you are referring to the presenter, it is Bruce Gore, at your service!

[@worldtraveler8613]

I watched a movie on the Israelite history and there is a line when Joseph said that what happened to him was his own fault, because of his vanity. We know that Joseph knew he was the favorite and used that to taunt his brothers. And he had no inhibition. He was seemingly relentless to throw it in their faces every chance he got. In some ways provoking their hatred even more. And then possibly being vain about his looks. The text says that Joseph was very handsome and well built. And all the women wanted him, not just Potiphar's wife. Especially if you read jasher which goes into more detail. Joseph may have had a heart of vanity about that. And for this maybe God left him imprisoned for 12 years, until he gained understanding, humility, maturity, because he was about to rule Egypt. Im just speculating but to me that line in that movie made a lot of sense.

[@GoreBruce]

The theory you suggest is thinly plausible, but extends considerably beyond actual biblical data.

[@gr4707]

The Israelites were a minority during that time. That makes any archaeological findings of their existence in Goshen much more diluted compared to the majority of Egyptians. How is it that “despite Egypt authorities resistance” archaeological evidences of Israelites were discovered but nothing from the Egyptian majority? That part did not make sense and sounded biased. It sounds like unfounded conspiracy theory that the Islamic identity of Egypt is a hurdle in front of archaeological research. Joseph story in Islam is identical to The Old Testament. I encourage you to investigate that. You might be surprised to know that the Quran hints that The Hyksos are the dynasty ruled Lower Egypt during Joseph time.

[@swnerd-2320]

My theory is that the Hyksos and Israelites/Hebrews were separate but related peoples, and it was the Hyksos expulsion that led to the enslavement of the Hebrews. The Hebrews found shelter in northern Egypt during the Hyksos rule, and, being that both were a Semitic and Canaanite population, the Hyksos welcomed them with open arms.

[@GoreBruce]

Certainly plausible!

[@michaelwoods4495]

My guess is that the Hebrews didn't become slaves, but called themselves that. During the fallow season, when there was no farm work to do, all the inhabitants of Egypt were expected to labor on public works, that is, cor​vée labor. The Egyptians didn't see it as slavery, but as one of the duties of citizenship.

[@saharbadrawy3919]

Thank you for this lecture! 🌷

[@mrmoss190]

28:45 I calculate Jacob dying in 1644 BCE (GENESIS CH 48 VS 28) at the age of 147 yrs old NOT 1646 BCE; especially with him being born in 1791 BCE & coming into Egypt at 130 yrs old (1661 BCE - GENESIS CH 47 VS 8 and 9). Still a good lesson though.

[@markc1234golf]

watch Ralph Ellis and Brian Forester

[@shaolindreams]

So can the Hyksos be linked with the so called "Exodus".. is it in the same time frame?

[@GoreBruce]

The Hyksos were driven out around the beginning of the 18th Dynasty (c. 1580 b.c.). The Exodus took place later.

[@shaolindreams]

I see.. well that's if it even happened.

[@FreedomFromSpeech]

@@shaolindreams Some theories do link the Hyksos to the people of the exodus. This theory is based on the dating of the Santorini volcanic eruption. A good source of info on this hypothesis is Dan Pellegrino's 'Return to Sodom & Gomorrah'. It's a good theory, but obviously not everyone agrees. Some date the exodus period to centuries after the Santorini event.

[@cosmo1578]

It was never a exodus, but rather they were killed and expelled by the KEMETIC king, AHMOSE I. The king killed these people and expelled them in the year around 1547 because they took over KEMET for two hundred years and enslaved the KEMETIC people in there own nation. One must remember that the word Egyptians, pharaoh and Egypt are Greek caucasian people words for KEMETIC black people in the ancient world. Read the story of the Hyksos in the encyclopedia Britannica and then you will know the truth that the semitic people weren't slaves in KEMET, but they did enslave the KEMETIC people for two hundred years.

[@501Mobius]

Wouldn't Sara be 66-67 years old when they went to Egypt? So no spring chicken.

[@veritastubecontact]

Can you please tell me from what sources you arrived at the chronological order from Joseph to the year of the exodus, as I would like to look for those books. Thank you!

[@chatterboxtaha6020]

My theory is that Hyksos was a group of Semetic Tribes and Clans grouped together (this would then include The Israelites ) , Joseph started to gain power more and more and then became Vizier (The Prime Minister) of Egypt. Then Jacob lead The Semetic Hyksos (including The Israelites) into Egypt which is where Manetho must've exaggerated it into an Invasion. I don't think The Pharoah of Joseph was actually Semetic or Hyksos (although could be possible). So I think that Joseph begins The Hyksos Rule (of Viziers not Pharoahs as I dont believe that they were Pharoah but Viziers instead) .Then after Joseph's death either his descendants, his brother's descendants or other Hyksos Relatives ruled Egypt (through the seat of Vizier). But then The Pharoah Ahmose I drives out the Hyksos but keeps some of them as slaves (Mostly Israelites may be other Semites as well) . Now where I'm stuck is 1.who exactly is this Semetic Vizier (Prime Minister) who must've been Minister of Agriculture who then introduced Bronze Technology, Chariots,Horses and Composite Bow and someone who then rose up to become Vizier (Prime Minister) and whose descendants or brother's descendants or relatives then ruled Egypt through The Role of Vizier (Prime Minister)? 2. Where does Moses come into play. Is he AkhenAten ? Or is he a Rebel Prince ? I think he's a Rebel Prince and (maybe "self proclaimed") last High Priest of Aten who rebelled against some Pharoah, took his Army (Israelites and maybe other Semites) and left Egypt (maybe to settle in Levant), this would've happened near the Bronze Age Collapse where The Egyptian Empire went into decline as it says in Abrahamic Religious Texts, but who in history ? What do you think ?

[@chatterboxtaha6020]

Also I think The "Pharoah" of Joseph's time would be known as King as Pharoah was a title used after The New Kingdom

[@teeceehbcuqueentv]

Timeline is inaccurate and you have no footnotes. Where did you get this information from?

[@GoreBruce]

Timeline for Ancient Egypt is commonly accepted chronology as found, e.g., in Clayton, Chronicle of the Pharaohs (Thames and Hudson). Biblical chronology is commonly accepted, based on the early date for the Exodus, c. 1447. Thanks for your interest.

[@Maheonehooestse-HolyFireMan]

@@GoreBruce read Anatole Femenkos works. It's very enlightening. History had been bent to throw you off as to where the true ancient Egypt which was located here in the US. Hint; check out the isis Temple at the Grand canyon. The American Indians knew this.

[@demetriusmiddleton1246]

If someone is going to make the claim that something is inaccurate - they should at least offer proof. You asked where he got his info and he answered. What makes his info inaccurate? Where do you get YOUR info? I'm not saying Bruce was there in ancient Egypt or that he couldn't possibly be wrong. But if you say he is wrong, where is YOUR proof?

[@teeceehbcuqueentv]

That was over 1 year ago. I've been to Egypt and back twice. This is not a priority. I'm in the present and I have several businesses to run.

[@demetriusmiddleton1246]

@@teeceehbcuqueentv 🤣🤣🤣🤣of course👌🏾

[@jdaze1]

Dr. Gore, is there any undeniable evidence to prove there is any veracity to the events of the OT or is it a spiritual allegory written by God inspired men?

[@GoreBruce]

There is plenty of historical evidence for general narrative of the Old Testament. I wrote a book on the topic, and there are many other resources available that provide additional information. www.amazon.com/Historical-Chronological-Context-Bible-Bruce/dp/1426943598/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bruce+gore&qid=1621255594&sr=8-1

[@zhizhi9138]

Good is always outweighs bad. It is more good because most people stay on the side of good.

[@michaelmoore4043]

I disagree

[@EdwardTheMedievalist]

What do you think of the theory that Joseph and Imhotep are the same person?

[@GoreBruce]

That hypothesis has been attractive to some, and I am not opposed to it in principle, except for the significant chronological problems involved.

[@RobinPeters.]

Yes, that is correct you did say 130 yrs old that Jacob had died. I also had made a type error and forgot to put the number 1 in front of the 30. I am sorry for my miss-typed error. Thank you for replying back to me, and again thank you for the video. The truth is that the Bible does state he died at the age of 147 yrs old. And the age of Jacob when he meets Pharaoh is 130 yrs old we see in Genesis 47:8-9. Please know that I am in no way trying to upset you regarding this correction. I wasn't sure at first if you had just made the mistake of saying the wrong age of when he died, but I sure do hope you don't believe and continue to say that Jacob died at the age of 130 yrs old when the bible clearly states he was 147 yrs old. I know that at times we all get to talking and typing and can make mistakes, that is understandable. God willing you have a good day. Thank you for your time

[@yimgajude5340]

yes Bruce. God uses even the most awful intentions of man to bring His plan to pass. the Pharisees thought they were crucifying Jesus, a trouble maker and a distorter of the Jewish religion as they suppose. It's understandable why God even calls Nebuchadnezzar His servant. this consciousness has kept me away from trouble for a decade now.

[@-kepha8828]

The written word was the law. John 17:17 says the word was the TRUTH. Psalm 119:142 says the LAW was the TRUTH. The law was the written word. John 1:14 "the word became flesh". This is the PHYSICAL, the physical manifestation of the written word, the law, into Jesus, Yahushua in Hebrew. Paul said the LAW is spiritual. So the written word, which was the law, which God called his "truth", was the spiritual form of his son Yahushua. The word "blasphemy" means "to peirce", as in to strike a hole into. Scripture says the only unforgivable sin (sin is defined as the transgression of the law), is to blasphemy the holy spirit, or to peirce it, making it void. The Jews blasphemed, peirced, the PHYSICAL word made flesh, Jesus. Self proclaiming Christians blaspheme the holy spirit, they peirce the spiritual form of Jesus, the written word, the law, in its spiritual form. Let that sink in for a second. Christian's point the finger at Jews, for their wicked and evil deed of piercing and doing away with Jesus physical body. All while being blind to the fact that they peirced and did away with Jesus in the spiritual form, an unforgivable sin. So the only unforgivable transgression of the LAW is to peirce, or to do away with the LAW, by making it vain, void, and of no effect.

[@andykeating791]

That way of thinking as just stopped any criticism you might have in your belief when reality makes your beliefs hard to square with reality. All you have done in the last 10yrs is stop your sub conscience for letting you know your beliefs arenot reality.. you've put yourself on a path and refuse to admit it leads nowhere.

[@motox529]

According to some egyptologist, there is no semitic evidence during the time of Rameses nor exodus during new kingdom rather there is semitic evidence century earlier in Avaris..

[@walkbyfaithinlove]

how accurate are you with the times. it seems to me (limited historical knowledge) that the Hyksos would have been the Jews themselves which were sheppards, that the Egyptians didn't like. the Jews grew too numerous and became a threat and Pharaoh wanted them outta the land.

[@GoreBruce]

There was a time when the Hyksos ruled Lower Egypt, and dominated a couple of dynasties. That would not square with the Hebrew presence in Egypt, of course. Good background is available in Peter Clayton's Chronology of the Pharaohs, who reflects widely accepted understanding of the ancient history of Egypt, including the Hyksos rulers. Thanks for asking!

[@joshzeidner5412]

heather biller seems too much lines up not to conclude hyksos were the Israelites

[@joshzeidner5412]

Bruce Gore according to the torah the Israelites dominated egyptian society for some time before they were enslaved

[@prettyjohnshill76]

there was no such thing as 'jews' at that time.

[@User-ro8dl]

Josh Zeidner they were never enslaved...they were paid to leave after starting a civil war with upper egypt(amun ra priesthood).

[@EdwardTheMedievalist]

Whose your favorite Egyptian king?

[@brucegore4373]

Hatshepsut.

[@proverbalizer]

Piankhi

[@edgarmiranda4917]

This was an excellent presentation on a subject that it really teach us many lessons, Joseph of Egypt. I can't agree more with you in the whole teaching..

[@joshuabader8560]

@Bruce Gore, thank you for the lecture. How did you calculate the date correlating with the 15th dynasty?

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for the feedback. The chronology for the Egyptian dynasties is taken from commonly accepted estimates offered by recognized experts. I relied especially on Peter Clayton's, Chronology of the Pharaohs (Thames and Hudson). Biblical chronology is similarly based on commonly accepted chronological benchmarks in Old Testament scholarship.

[@corkydziadosz5661]

I believe Pharaoh Djozer was ruler who Joseph (Imhotep) raised to 2nd in kingdom and Akhenaten (elongated skull religious ruler) was pharaoh of exodus. These are just my thoughts

[@spiritoftruth56]

My research, which includes the biblical narrative, suggests that Joseph was taken to Egypt c1900BC. And Moses was born c317 years later c1583BC.and died 120 years later in c1463BC.

[@rolandocastaneda4429]

Two questions, Bruce. By the way thank you for your presentation. Really enjoyed. First question. Can you speculate who was the pharoah that Joseph was under who had the dreams. Two what would have caused the 7 years of famine? It says the dearth was in all lands in Genesis 42. Sounds really world wide. Thank you for any response.

[@GoreBruce]

The chronology that I assume puts the arrival of Joseph in Egypt during the 13th or 14th dynasty. The Hyksos period began c. 1663 and the years of plenty appear to have started about 1662. There are multiple Hyksos pharaohs, and the records are not great, but assuming the first of the Hyksos (as best we can tell), it would be Sheshi. As to the second question, famines took place from time to time. Aside from supernatural providence, these are known phenomena, and an attempt to provide a 'cause' would not likely be very productive.

[@chuckness5372]

Hey brother, and this goes for Bruce also, after much study and consideration, I believe the eruption of Mt Thera would at least explain the 7 years of famine around the World. God in HIS power would have made sure the nile produced enough water to have bumper crops for 7 years before the famine produced by the supervocanic eruption of Mt Thera. Which many archeologists date around 1600 give or take 50 years. Which would land Bruce's projection of the plenty right on cue.

[@chuckness5372]

@@GoreBruce Check my response to Rolando's question since I also addressed it to you my brother.

[@JC.Realm7]

The Hyksos weren't pharaohs... They were simply kings. This is where the Qur'an is more accurate than the Bible. The Quran never calls the ruler at the time of Joseph (a.s.) a "pharaoh", he is always referred to as a king. The Bible never makes this distinction between the rulers at this time and the time of Moses (a.s.). And why would Muslims have a problem vindicating this story? The average Muslim is more religious than the average Christian. The Judeo-Christian West is heavily secularized now. Most people here have developed a resentment of religion and an aversion to the Bible - while Muslims still believe in and have a lot of reverence for these beautiful stories.

[@GoreBruce]

For a balanced scholarly assessment of the matters raise here, see Peter Clayton, Chronology of the Pharaohs: www.amazon.com/Chronicle-Pharaohs-Reign-Reign-Chronicles/dp/B01FEKBT2I/ref=sr_1_2?crid=34LEQCHTSEBA6&keywords=peter+clayton&qid=1668001502&sprefix=peter+clayton%2Caps%2C202&sr=8-2

[@JC.Realm7]

@@GoreBruce I made some pretty critical points, but you outright ignored what I said.

[@elliottbaker1998]

Hyksos does not translate to shepherd kings. They did not call themselves that. It means foreign rulers.

[@ThePowellWay]

Ario where can I find this?

[@haroldmorris5901]

@Ario Not really...the Greek word Hyskos derived from the Kemitic term Heqa Khaset, which means 'the 'Followers of the Spirit of Set', which was a generic term for peoples who were opposed to MAAT. The people who were later called Israelites, were a major part of this group which also included Greeks and Semitic followers of Hadad (who they sacrificed babies to - like the story of Abraham and his son). The Hyskos were expelled 3 times, their 2nd expulsion, in 1602 BCE, was led by Seqenenre Tao, GR Queen Aah Hotep, General (later king) Ahmose and the Kushite General Babu, marked the beginning of the New Kingdom. Their 3rd expulsion, along with 'Atenists' after the death of Akhenaten, is referred to as the Exodus in the bible. Their evil activities in Canaan are outlined in the Book of Joshua and the Amarna Letters...For more information about the true history of Kemit and the Previous Worldwide Civilization, WITHOUT Supremacist, Patriarchal, Religious and Mad Scientist bias, check my boards at Pinterest @ Asar Kush

[@haroldmorris5901]

@Ario Don't fool yourself birdbrain, my response is directed to people who will read this, not you...

[@haroldmorris5901]

@Ario Many people do...Euro psychobabble should always be called out for what it is. That's why so many of you actually 'believe' the series of lies you live your lives by. Like you''re the 'chosen people' and civilized...

[@brianjacob8728]

The amorites were already in Sumer and Babylon before Abraham "left" Ur. Abraham was probably an amorite and what you're looking at here was two phases of the Hyksos invasion of Egypt as the lands in sumer and babylon became salted during this prolonged drought and became useless to even the herders like the amorites/hyksos (as you said, "shepherd kings"). Curious that you didn't discuss the ties between Ahkenaten IV and Moses, esp. the possibility that they were one and the same person.

[@lauracherminando7682]

Moises era hermano de Akhenaton.Ambos hebreos/ hyksos.

[@brianjacob8728]

@@lauracherminando7682 What evidence do you have that supports this. Honest question.

[@lauracherminando7682]

@@brianjacob8728 puede consultar a Alessandro De Santis, autor de numetosos libros y estudios realizados desde el arameo, jeroglificos egipcios el latin y el griego, el es graduado de la Universidad de La Sapienza de Roma. Lo ha publicado en sus libros con profusa documentacion.

[@joroco-wm7oh]

Abraham cross the River Euphrate in 1943, 430 years before the Exodus in 1513. If the Hycksos are in the story, they are more likely to be the new Pharaoh who did not know Joseph. Joseph dies in 1657 bc.

[@decay-154]

You tube David Rohl "patterns of evidence" .After Exodus Egypt had no army and Hyksos took over and destroyed egypt

[@boulkerouaabdelrahmene8249]

Absolutly amazing ! here is an idea: reading the cora'an "joseph verse" (the story of joseph) god refers to the high ruler of egypte as a "king" meanwhile in the story of moses god used the title "pharaon" I've never really got it until i saw this video... because joseph lived in egypte the era of "hyksos" = "rulers of foreign lands" thanks a lot for the video, i hope we can share some ideas that would be intersting

[@decay-154]

If you liked this you will be amazed by David Rohls "patterns of evidence" on u Tube

[@boulkerouaabdelrahmene8249]

@@decay-154 yeah indeed, i watched and also watched "the exodus: fairytle of historical fact" and it was abslutly amazing . thank you for the comment

[@Vjl5280]

If the Pharaoh gave them the most abundant land in Egypt then how did they become slaves?!

[@big4cris]

Egypt was divided into two at that time, the leader of the south side took over, that's when they were made slaves and some were driven out the country

[@decay-154]

David Rohls "patterns of evidence" on you tube explains every thing for u

[@michaeladderley5180]

25:25...how could Egypt be Islamic if that was started in the late 600 AD....but that crescent moon symbol was started around 3000 BC in the steppes region...mr lost in the sauce...

[@mikezimer6901]

In the Quraan, describes the ruler of Egypt in Joseph time as king , however, in Moses time, the Ruler was Paroh . This is one of the wonders of the Quran. While in the Bible, there are no distinctions between both rulers' titles 😮

[@canadiankewldude]

Bruce, have you looked at: *_"The Biblical Exodus... Fairytale or Historical Fact? (by David Rohl)"_* He suggests the Hyksos came into Egypt just after the Exodus, without battle, just took over.

[@GoreBruce]

I have considerable respect for Rohl, but his position is here is problematic on multiple fronts.

[@canadiankewldude]

@@GoreBruce Fair enough, just thought I'd mention it. I'm sure you are very familiar with more details on the subject. Have a good day, God bless.