747 REPLACEMENT - Is The Boeing 777X Perfect?

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More and more airlines are retiring their Boeing 747 in favour of twin-engine, more efficient aircraft types. But what aircraft is specifically pitted as the ideal 747 replacement? Can the upcoming Boeing 777X be considered the perfect or most ideal replacement, all things considered?
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@hashimzuberi9075
@hashimzuberi9075 3 ай бұрын
No plane can replace the 747
@viewer-of-content
@viewer-of-content 3 ай бұрын
If the turbo fan is big enough why would you need 4 engines. 110 tons of thrust per wing 220 tons total is the same from 2 or 4 engines. Only war zones and VIP need the redundancy over better fuel economy.
@jantjarks7946
@jantjarks7946 3 ай бұрын
4 engines missing one at lift off is very different to 2 engines missing one. Just saying.
@neilpickup237
@neilpickup237 3 ай бұрын
A twin has to have more total power than a Tri or quad jet. It has to be able to take off and climb on half rather than two thirds or three quarters power should a single engine fail.
@l3v1ckUK
@l3v1ckUK 3 ай бұрын
Power isn't the issue. Redundant power in case of engine failure is.
@neilpickup237
@neilpickup237 3 ай бұрын
@@l3v1ckUK And the more engines an aircraft has, the less the redundant power required.
@l3v1ckUK
@l3v1ckUK 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@peteorengo5888
@peteorengo5888 3 ай бұрын
It is important to emphasize that the savings in less engines comes from maintenance, not in fuel use. The fuel burn of the 747-400 is almost identical to that of the 777-300 while carrying a few more passengers. The 747-8 uses the same engines as the 787 and carries as many as twice the number of passengers depending on the model but, airlines and passengers prefer more frequencies over one large aircraft on most routes.
@ishiddddd4783
@ishiddddd4783 Ай бұрын
old comment, but it's far from identical, the 747-8 being the most economical 747 in fuel burn, it's still 9600kg of fuel per hour, vs the 7500kg of fuel per hour of a 777-300ER, and that's with much newer engines over the GE90-115B's. it's general savings, maintenance, oil replacements, time, and fuel consumption, being able to have 2 planes flying the same route, or different ones, over one plane that will often not be filled up in capacity, and using the same amount of fuel as 2 787-9s or 2 A350-900s are very importan factors, on having better efficiency.
@edwardwilcox6606
@edwardwilcox6606 3 ай бұрын
For most airlines looking for a large airliner they need only look at the A350-1000 which is the perfect replacement for the B777-300ER. Anything larger will be looked upon as probably a niche aircraft.
@gretelgrant-gomez5379
@gretelgrant-gomez5379 3 ай бұрын
Boeing 777x first delivery before GTA 6
@CodydaUwUCawio
@CodydaUwUCawio 3 ай бұрын
It's a good day when a globetrotting video drops!
@wadehiggins1114
@wadehiggins1114 3 ай бұрын
It's always a good day when you're still alive.
@leezinke4351
@leezinke4351 3 ай бұрын
Nothing replace the queen of the skies.
@kenphillips7594
@kenphillips7594 3 ай бұрын
If the 777 was being made by anyone other than Boeing we'd see it this decade but it might be the second half of the century as a Boeing product.
@briancrawford69
@briancrawford69 2 ай бұрын
I've only got to fly the 777 once. Still waiting to fly the 787 and 747-8. Lucku enough to fly a couple united 747s domestically before theu were gone
@JCT442
@JCT442 3 ай бұрын
If they ever get the air frame certified then maybe... Boeing's recent track record puts a lot of things in doubt.
@stevenholt1867
@stevenholt1867 3 ай бұрын
no ETOPS restrictions for the quadjets
@jerrydillon9369
@jerrydillon9369 3 ай бұрын
I can see the 747 going away at the airlines, but not with the air cargo side.
@briancrawford69
@briancrawford69 2 ай бұрын
They're currently testing the 777-10 also correct?
@jamesbourne6165
@jamesbourne6165 3 ай бұрын
The long awaited launch is much overdue. Boeing has a great product and will need to play catchup with the A350XWB.
@GarthOwenGOGO
@GarthOwenGOGO Ай бұрын
This aged well
@chiad25
@chiad25 3 ай бұрын
6 year delay (and counting) is a looong time.
@hungo7720
@hungo7720 3 ай бұрын
The 747 serves as a long-lasting beacon of the aviation industry. However, it has become outrageously gas-guzzling compared to twin-engine widebodies such as the a350 or 787. Having said that, Boeing has faltered on certifying the 777x after the 737 max fallout which insinuates that this aircraft type is not operational anytime soon.
@malcolmmacdougall
@malcolmmacdougall 3 ай бұрын
the thing about the 747 is it's a very old aircraft anyway........ but the A380 unfortunately has 4 engines and i think it's as simple as this............the answer is an A380 but with two very efficient large engines instead.......... the 777x doesn't have the internal volume to make it feel luxurious on long haul.... which is what Emirates have asked for..... a new better A380 but Airbus is saying no at the moment.
@jayvee8502
@jayvee8502 3 ай бұрын
Sadly Airbus is not planning yet an A380 with two engines.
@animegamingdude
@animegamingdude 22 күн бұрын
the a380 is too big and heavy of a plane to be powered by just two engines
@malcolmmacdougall
@malcolmmacdougall 18 күн бұрын
@@animegamingdude if you lose an engine yes, it doesn't feel safe does it.
@aryaansrivastava3756
@aryaansrivastava3756 3 ай бұрын
This Means Airbus Will NOT revive the A380 programme again!
@malcolmmacdougall
@malcolmmacdougall 3 ай бұрын
yes only a A380 twin neo......... if possible
@NicotineRosberg
@NicotineRosberg 2 ай бұрын
Fairly quiet
@patrickb818
@patrickb818 2 ай бұрын
Replacing the 747 is short-sighted on the part of airlines.
@SDPBALLCOACH
@SDPBALLCOACH 3 ай бұрын
Oh GOD, I want to fly on a 747 !!!😢 Foe all the "geeks" out there, isn't there ANY way to get more efficient engines on the 747 airframe??? I get 4 isn't 2 but there's a lot of smart guys out there who might be able to come up with a plan...maybe??
@BoyeeSmudger
@BoyeeSmudger 3 ай бұрын
It's too heavy. Boeing and airbus have spent millions on moving away from heavy metallic (alloy) structures, the 74 is just too heavy now. Also using metallic means that in time class a parts will begin to fail thanks to fatigue. It's just not worth it. Best to celebrate great aircraft and then move on. I'm looking forward to seeing wing technology come on for commercial, just will take decades.
@jayvee8502
@jayvee8502 3 ай бұрын
747 will not leave yet. It will still work as a freighter. That nose cargo door is very helpful in loading and unloading large pellets.
@artrandy
@artrandy 3 ай бұрын
Its pretty obvious now that the B777X is not going to be delivered until 2026+. Forget what Boeing's PR department want airlines to believe, and what the Boeing fans on here hope for, both Lufthansa and Emirates are predicting that delivery by 2025 is unlikely. And their views are unbiased. That's getting dangerously close to the promised upgrades to the Rolls Royce XWB-97, which powers the A350-1000, which I understand are intended for about 2027. Presumably, RR will be making an announcement about those upgrades in advance, and if they offer substantial improvements on the biggest A350, the main competitor to the B777X, before the latter type is actually in service, its that which will affect the future of the B777X, more than anything else forseen at present. Im not suggesting a mass of cancellations, but future orders could tail off, and it become the new white elephant.........
@jayvee8502
@jayvee8502 3 ай бұрын
A350 XWB has lesser volume than 777x. Also there is a chance 777-10 could be on their way.
@artrandy
@artrandy 3 ай бұрын
@@jayvee8502 I've written 3 paragraphs of stuff, and you haven't contradicted anything particularly. Thank you! The B777X-9 has marginally more capacity than an A350-1000, but very few airlines expect a 'full house' regularly, and its modest range is considered a handicap. So its of marginal impact. As for the 777X-10, please let me have more info to justify your statement, that it "could be on the way"? If the certification process on the B777X has been significantly delayed because of Boeing dealing with the continuing trauma of the B737Max series, and now all the problems and accusations regarding the B787, then please tell me what priority Boeing will be giving the B777X-10.....................?
@jayvee8502
@jayvee8502 3 ай бұрын
@@artrandy There is just no way A350-XWB can be an alternative for 777-9. Since the Jumbo are getting retired, the closest thing will be the 777x and airliners are willing to wait for it even with the emergence of A350
@artrandy
@artrandy 3 ай бұрын
@@jayvee8502 Take Qantas as an example of how inaccurate your sweeping statement is. They were consulted at the design stage of the B777X, and then turned their back on the project, going for the A350-1000 as a better aircraft for their needs. Instead of wishful thinking, by confusing what you want to happen with what is likely to happen, let us please put your statement regarding the 777X-10 to the test. What is your source for suggesting that the "777X-10 could be on their way". If you can't answer at least that question, then don't be surprised If I accuse you of daydreaming......
@jayvee8502
@jayvee8502 3 ай бұрын
@@artrandy Quatas was never interested in the 777x. It's Emirates that are the biggest investors of 777x
@l3v1ckUK
@l3v1ckUK 3 ай бұрын
It can't be perfect if it isn't certified.
@herceg6772
@herceg6772 3 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Boeing gets good attention on this channel even though being in big trouble. Good work by Airbus is ignored here.
@jahu35
@jahu35 2 ай бұрын
no, boeing 777x is not perfect lmao, but we might never know the truth about it, they seem to be k1ll1ng all the people, who might want to speak ill (the truth), about the company
@fredferd965
@fredferd965 3 ай бұрын
If it's Boeing, I'm not going!
@waynerooo
@waynerooo 3 ай бұрын
God, we've never heard that before. Yawn.
@fredferd965
@fredferd965 3 ай бұрын
@@waynerooo You're going to hear it a lot more in the future.
@animegamingdude
@animegamingdude 3 ай бұрын
@@fredferd965 the older boeings are still perfectly safe though
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 3 ай бұрын
never understood why they couldn't just modify the 747 to run with the newer huge jet engines and run it as a twin engine instead of a quad engine ... as much money Boeing is fucking off with that 737max mess why not ... a twin engine 747 would be nice
@mandandi
@mandandi 3 ай бұрын
Engineers would do that. Completely doable. Financial people would never innovate that. Innovation takes money they would rather cut down. The money used in innovation would lower their salaries and bonuses.
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 3 ай бұрын
@@mandandi 😆 true...
@michaelosgood9876
@michaelosgood9876 3 ай бұрын
Na! That shape is inefficient-- that's just the beginning...
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelosgood9876 because of a simple hump ?
@SDPBALLCOACH
@SDPBALLCOACH 3 ай бұрын
@jermainec I TOTALLY agree!!! I'm even a Boeing shareholder n I want this type thing.. Damn the cost!!!😊
@herceg6772
@herceg6772 Ай бұрын
Far from perfect. What are tou talking about?? YT channels have been talking about new 777 for years now how it will change avi industry and bla bla bla. Let’s get serious, the plane is full of problems, tje same situation with 787 and 737. Please stop praising a plane that is not flying
@johnchristmas7522
@johnchristmas7522 3 ай бұрын
It would be if it had been built by the same Boeing of the past that built the 747. Sadly its fast becoming the 777xMAX
@1revlimit
@1revlimit Ай бұрын
Is that a joke? I sure hope so.
@Ayden2008
@Ayden2008 3 ай бұрын
*and now it’s found itself in the middle of a holding pattern*
@Ayden2008
@Ayden2008 3 ай бұрын
Oh also, the 747-8’s over at Lufthansa, are actually quite young, I wanna say, about 15 years
@dcsyd16
@dcsyd16 3 ай бұрын
Lufthansa flies the 747 as they have the largest 747 maintenance facility in Europe and able to run that plane cheaper than any other plane. They have announce that they will run that plane until 2040’s
@peasant5612
@peasant5612 3 ай бұрын
You keep lumping the 747-8 with the older 747s
@cageordie
@cageordie 3 ай бұрын
Can Boeing even get it certified?
@bradrothberg5863
@bradrothberg5863 3 ай бұрын
777x is a fantasy.
@747forever9
@747forever9 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Dj!!
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 3 ай бұрын
If the high-wing designs that NASA and others have been considering turn out to be the next big thing, huge turbofans with even-higher bypass ratios will have plenty of room under those wings. That could take some decades, and so the 777X could still have a long time in the skies.
@elbuggo
@elbuggo 3 ай бұрын
I wish they would make a Burnelli Lifting Body instead!
@mandandi
@mandandi 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, great observation. I also think that when its cheaper to print carbon fiber fuselage parts, then Boeing can do one for the 777x without costs associated with a whole new plane design. The size is excellent.
@pablorubio8287
@pablorubio8287 3 ай бұрын
Make this top so “make this top so ‘first’ isn’t” isn’t
@michaelosgood9876
@michaelosgood9876 3 ай бұрын
Anythings better than a 747....
@animegamingdude
@animegamingdude 3 ай бұрын
wrong the 747 is great
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