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[@meeko5985]

As a 13700K owner I’m surprised how good that 7800X3D is. I play at 4K 120 Hz on my LG OLED C1. But I got an Asus Tuf RX 6800 XT for $320 and my gaming experience has never been better. I was mostly looking for 12900K performance but yeah the 7800X3D would be my CPU if I had an AM5 build.

[@UrCheckMate]

how did u get for 320?

[@saricubra2867]

If you want i9-12900K perfomance, i7-12700K and 13600K are very similar (om gaming).

[@shumba_the_don]

@@UrCheckMate he got it from your sister for a special price 😅 just kidding

[@andrewhite4431]

What size please?

[@SKHYJINX]

Thanks to the supporters on the Twitch streams for their massive donations & Jufes for the content.

[@FrameChasers]

BRUH TY FOR TIP 😭😭❤️❤️🥰

[@unlimiteduploads2971]

There's no 7950X3D in here, only 7800X3D

[@dopeboiiage]

​@@unlimiteduploads2971hes trolling buddy....

[@666Necropsy]

i want to thank everyone who supports this channel. i really appreciate the reviews this channel provides.

[@knuckleheadcomputers]

@@FrameChasers great video love to see the scam lol

[@cyberpunk59]

I think it will be very interesting when the scheduler will be able to understand when a game benefits more from running on the ccd with the higher clocks, instead of just pushing each and every game on the ccd with the added cache. Or when it will be able to use both ccds in conjunction correctly more often like I could see on some games with the 7900x3d and 7950x3d, giving sometimes up to 5-10 boost over a 7950x3d with its CCD2 disabled.

[@isakh8565]

"When"? Seems like a big "if" to me...

[@Akrymir]

Great video. The only thing I'd have liked to see is games with RT on and off (for both x3d and 13900k), so we could see the impact cache has on RT.

[@vladimirotes5470]

Rock solid test with useful info about framerate dips in recent multiplayer titles. What else should u ask for?

[@tjk9008]

In Warzone I notice if you disable SMT the game runs more stable with better 1% lows. It might be optimization with AMD cpus. My 5800x3d 1% lows are horrible with SMT enable. Disable that and 1% lows are close to average

[@007Junior]

does your avg fps stay the same? or is it slightly lower?

[@zkilla4611]

My FPS in warzone with the current settings at 1440p are insane in the 3D chip. 180-240 FPS in most areas. I haven't even turned on PBO. I have everything on Ultra also. 7900XTX.

[@rab3072]

Are you disabling bios or using process lasso to disable SMT? I don't play Warzone, more just curious.

[@stonecoldt]

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[@saricubra2867]

Maybe you need more physical cores instead of disabling SMT. Warzone runs pretty smooth on a Ryzen 9 5900X, at least from watching a friend playing it live with a 3080Ti, Ryzen 9 5900X and i7-12700K are pretty similar overall at least on 3D mark scores. One of the few games that scales pretty well with physical cores.

[@corey________________1589]

I appreciate a real review on all the hardware.

[@TheJonazas]

This is a win for both Intel and Amd. Extremely good cpus!

[@lightward9487]

AMD no es una victoria nunca porque no se puede vencer a Intel monstruo pero todos ya sabemos que nuevo 14th gen meteor lake es más poderoso que van a destruir a todos X3D AMD si vale pena

[@BassRukarioGuerrero]

@@lightward9487ni inglés ni español hablas. No se te entiende XD

[@Kratochvil1989]

finaly , it was kinda needed its realy not great feeling to play on 7900xtx or 4090ti and drop way bellow 60fps kinda often just becouse of cpus were not able to handle these cards especialy at 1440p or ultrawida 1440p its kinda weird. Cant wait for 7800x3d for me its no brainer i have 7900xtx , thus i wanted something good but with my limited budget while xtx+7800x3d costs together less then 4090alone (of course 4090 is that best card, its just way to expensive for me) so i choosed price/performance ratio instead.

[@neikory]

@@BassRukarioGuerrero jajajajajajajajajajjajajajajaajajajajaja

[@markusbronst7942]

My grand mother couldn’t tell the difference. 😂 but yeah, 7800X3D sounds the best option. Though some other channels pointed out, AMD has better options if productivity is important as well. I don’t understand the rant about scam marketing though, because the most over promise anyway. 😂 for example DLSS 3.0 is only supported with 17 games. 33 games and 5 applications in process. Plus the fact there is no DLSS 3.0 for older series. FSR works for all GPUs. If FSR 3.0 will work for all GPU makers, I’m skeptical that it will, 3090 versus 4070 TI would be interesting to compare with. 3070 had a 256 memory eVGA made a 3070 TI 12 GB model. 250$ more for one generation. 7900 XT price is over as well besides it should have been maybe 7800 XT, but I guess having the 9 in it, they can ask more. In general I’m not sold on AMD or Nvidia GPUs and not jumping yet on AM5 platform yet. I hope the next generation won’t require a 2000 Watt PSU 😂🙈

[@benjaminpresley5061]

Thank you Jufes and the your supporters! Life is good with you letting us know how it is.

[@Secondwind_TV]

Awesome! Love how you showed all the resolutions for Single player games. Can't wait to see the DDR4 vs 13900K/KS DDR5 VS 7950X3D(7800X3D). Maybe throw in the cheaper 12900K @ $350 in there ;)

[@SilkMilkJilk]

12600k is barely slower, do you even have a 4090?^^

[@Devilaxes]

Just bought the 7950X3D oh man its crazy strong in wow and other MMO games! Wow raiding has never been so good ...3D v-Cache to rule them all =) should be a banger for diablo 4 too.

[@zet7914]

How the cpu run in Valdrakken ?

[@ripvanwinkle3432]

Might have to do an upgrade for the mmos.

[@dimwillow7113]

which cpu you had before

[@RocoV08]

do you play classic or retail? what other cpu did you had before? how much fps are you getting during action in raids?

[@arckanum332]

What did you have before? I'm on a 3900x and this cpu is pretty shit with MMOs.

[@geforce5591]

Disabling a CCD doesn't scale in all games and causes regressions in others. Why not just run a 7950X 3D OC benchmark instead?

[@raGEEE1986]

Great video , love the honesty over it all , im still happy with my 5950x. keep at it my friend

[@riptidegaming06]

I'm on 5800x3d 3200mhz ddr4 4090 system and am looking for a upgrade from AM4 to either a future zen 5 or 6 cpu, or intel 15th gen+ (I won't have the money for a while). However, what cpu is currently the best for something like lossless OBS recording of cyberpunk 2077 path tracing 4k gameplay with minimal fps drops (no dual pc setup)?

[@zbrkesbris5987]

Did you FAFO with X3D memory tuning yourself and/or have you tried Hynix A/M-die timings published by Buildzoid?

[@dipley3771]

Such good testing. Nobody else this dedicated to the craft as you hoodoos

[@tomorpedreiro3032]

BTW thanks for the work, we appreciate it for sure :)

[@johitaan4148]

So I guess if money isn't an option and you want to overclock to get max performance, then you might as well go for Intel 13900k (s) right ?

[@DanielKaspo]

I'm so sorry, I'm a bit confused - the 7800x3d isn't even available until tomorrow, how were you able to get one for overclocking and benchmarking?

[@bh180harris]

My favorite techtuber at it again! Curious, do you still fresh install Win10 for your systems?

[@FrameChasers]

Yep

[@Krenisphia]

If I didn't already build a new Intel 13th gen PC in Oct/Nov alongside my 4090, I would've waited for the 7800x3d. But I'm happy with my performance so I'm not going to get worked up for an extra 10% or so. Also, I'm just sad that Jufe's community is so small. If only most people knew about how to properly run benchmarks there wouldn't be so much misinformation circling the fucking PC space.

[@kramnull8962]

Too many pinky swearing on Reddit to stick their pinkies in each others butthole to realize any truth anyways....

[@njasicko]

I just ran that same CIV 6 Storm AI test on my 7700x (all core OC to 5.6) on 6400 mem and got a 22.46 on 1080p. Maybe I did something wrong, are those numbers correct?

[@hadleys.4869]

I play a ton of BF2042 at 4k native with DLSS off/Ray tracing AO off. I have noticed from KZbin benchmarkers that I get a lot more fps at these same 4k native settings than the 7950x3D does. 7950x3D was 115-135 fps and my 13900ks with 7200mhz ram was at 135-165 fps. I currently have a 13900ks/4090/msi Meg z790 Ace 4-DIMM motherboard with a stable 7200mhz 32gb DDR5 kit. Because of this video I ordered an Asus ROG Maximus Z790 APEX 2-DIMM motherboard and GSkill 7800mhz 32gb ram kit. 8000mhz was out of stock, so I’ll just push this 7800 kit to 8000mhz probably. Also trying to decide whether to upgrade my Corsair hx1200i(1200 watt) PSU to a Corsair hx1500i (1500watt) PSU for more headroom when running the 13900ks with unlimited turbo wattages and a 4090 at up to 450watts during gaming. Then you have whatever the wattage requirements for the motherboard and ram are, then fans I guess.

[@ilovehotdogs125790]

Seems like a lot of work for not a lot of gains. You already have 7200mhz ram. How much gains are you gonna get with 8000 bro?

[@hadleys.4869]

@@ilovehotdogs125790 yeah, not a ton of gains, but some. Mostly in the 1% lows. I ended up getting a G.Skill 2x24 48GB 8000 CL40 kit, but I overclocked it to 8200mhz 36-48-48-86 timings. So I’m essentially running the timings you would get with a 7600mhz kit at 8200mhz. My cpu is overclocked to 6Ghz across all 8 P Cores and 4.5Ghz on all 16 E cores.

[@JeryLawl3318]

@@hadleys.4869 Hella fast system you have there. Congrats

[@IrocZIV]

Yeah, no reason to buy a 7950x3d if you just game. It was always meant for those who do more with their computer. Cache should also help more when you are running 128GB of RAM, as your dramatically limit how fast you can clock it (Most motherboards list 4800 max)

[@gprojectnoob4779]

Excellent review! Very Fair. Thanks to all that can afford to patron Frame Chasers. Wish i could.

[@miyagiryota9238]

The best part of this video is the intro! Content is good too!

[@catlinfoster1683]

Thank you for your hard and honest work 🙏

[@bromar40]

That intro was gold.

[@Saerek]

Wish we had something like this for VR games, like VRChat to choose the best hardware for VR.

[@RafaelSilva-yv3oh]

That intro, lol! 🤣

[@ViciousXUSMC]

Why would you say the 7950X3D is a scam? the 7800X3D would be great for gaming, but as a content creator I still need those cores for video/photo editing. The lower power consumption of the X3D is the main draw point for me vs the 7950X or the 13900K, I have gotten rid of equipment that ran too hot and used too much power for a 24/7 system in an office that became a sauna. Seeing nearly 50w difference in consumption is a huge win IMO.

[@dvdtv1234]

what settings are you running warzone at ?

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Jufes does it again. Bringing the Heat! I'm looking at doing a Summer time build. I'm seriously leaning towards the 7800X3D right now. (Im mainly an Emulators / Single Player high graphics and resolution gamer.) We'll see how it goes.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Then the 7800x3d will be a waste of money for you. The difference of it’s performance will not matter at 4K and if your only doing emulators any modern CPU will get the job done. You also need a 4090 as well which is yet again extremely overkill for your use case scenario.

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

@@ZackSNetwork Lol. No man. I'm not the regular tech viewer. I know exactly what I need for my use case. "Any CPU is fine for Emulation." No. Just No. For the latest emulators like RPCS3, Xenia, Yuzu or even some games in Dolphin and PCSX2. You need a really beefy CPU to get the best performance. 7000 series or 12th or 13th gen specifically. Also I never said I was going for a 4090. I have my eyes set on the 4080 looking for it to go down a bit but if not if not thats fine. I don't plan on upgrading my cpu for at 2 generations or my gpu depending on how well the DLSS and Frame Generation works on future titles. So I'm good. Good info. For a casual. But I know what I'm looking for and why I'm looking for it. Have a nice day.

[@saricubra2867]

​​​@@NBWDOUGHBOY My i7-12700K is right on par with a non-3D Ryzen 9 for emulators and only losing against high end raptor lake. The iGPU can handle the emulators no problem, still faster than the Switch. I have Corsair DDR5 4800, no XMP needed. Watch the floating point numbers.

[@saricubra2867]

​​@@NBWDOUGHBOYAlder Lake and Raptor Lake have 6% higher IPC than Zen 4. That 6% difference on IPC is a huge one for clockspeed and thermals, not worth it buying Zen 4 or Raptor Lake for that, Alder Lake Golden Cove is enough (as an option find an AVX512 batch).

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

@@saricubra2867 Ironically 12700K or 12900K with AVX-512 Tuned is still the fastest chip available for the RPCS3 emulator. It's still good. But, I want a Set it and forget it system for the next 4 to 6 years. The 3D should be decent for my purposes if it isn't ill return it and get something else. Not a Big Deal.

[@ridesafealways4929]

Good day sir! Thanks for the video. I am currently moving on from an i7 6700k after the motherboard died. I have local offers of a 7950x tray type new for 370 usd and 7950x3d tray type new for 470 usd. Which one should I get? I game from time to time mostly single player games like Witcher 3, Mafia, Cyberpunk, and a little bit of Dota 2/PUBG. But I also would love a fast multitasking CPU as i also decompress zip files a lot, and do some coding. Not sure that it matters but I also recently bought a Galax LHR 3080 12gb for 360 usd to upgrade my aging 1070. My monitor is a 1440p 144hz. My cooling setup is a left over from my 6700k, it is a triple 360 rad in a modded cosmos 2 case. Please suggest to me if the 100 usd difference between the two is worth it as it will be a long time again before I will upgrade. Thank you!

[@gurugamer8632]

For video editing in apps like adobe premiere , after effects and DaVinci Resolve which CPU is the best for performance? I9 13900K , 13900KS or AMD 7950X or AMD 7950X3D?

[@lightward9487]

Ese Intel es mejor principal de gran CPU para crear resolución de FPS actualización y también actualización de ram memoria mejor más bestia pero AMD X3D ya no será ventaja nunca más? No compra AMD si vale pena

[@Bayonet1809]

Either of the Intels. They are the same thing, just slightly different stock clocks.

[@claudep.1926]

Get AMD for better efficiency, thank me later. The performance difference is minimal. Intel can only compete with AMD because they crank up power, it's ridiculous.

[@gurugamer8632]

@@claudep.1926 thx also amd has 24 lanes compare to Intel 20 lanes and uses 5nm compare to Intel 10nm.

[@claudep.1926]

@@gurugamer8632 yeah, not to mention AM5 will be good for at least 5 years. So buy a decent motherboard and you can just upgrade the CPU if you want to.

[@nosajmartinez6175]

Man I have seen this video several times and the opening ace ventura based theme is hilarious! Rolling every time! Seriously awesome!!!

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

Ive seen plenty of reviews as I am gaming in 4K and I have a 4090 TUF OC with the 4090 Strix OC Bios flashed. Then I am still running the older productivity AM4 CPU 5950X, so i wanted to see if 7950X was a good upgrade, but found that it wasent for 4K. Then looked at 7950X3d, but I find that the mainboards and cpus + ram will cost too much for it beeing worth it for 4K gaming. Still I feel that Intel is a bit cheaper, mainly due to the mainboards. but a 13900K will cost almost the same as an 7950X3d. However it is also possible to buy an 7950X.. Or maybe I will just wait. I think that the prices will drop at both AMD and Intel, especially motherboard prices must down for AM5. I am by no means married to Intel or AMD, I had been using Intel forever, but then I switched to AMD after I felt Intel stagnated for several generations. However at the moment there is finally a fight between Intel and AMD, productivity wise the 5950X is still fast enough for me as a developer. But I do of course miss out on the "Minimum 1 fps" with my 4090 in 4K.. However it is so fast still that I dont feel any games lag at highest settings.. So I think I will just wait and see what happends with prices or bundles on either AMD or Intel side.

[@shumba_the_don]

What are the benefits of flashing a different bios to the gpu? And do you lose your warranty when you doing this?

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

@@shumba_the_don it's mainly the stock speed and turbo speed. The gains are small

[@m8x425]

So, does the Radeon VII in the background still work or did the interposer blow?

[@fullkebabalchemist3371]

Besides the AMDip, theres the platform stability, having usb drop outs or tpm stutters or being on the mercy of the x-box gamebar for core allocation, I went Intel this time because of that. Even if it needs more tuning to reach the max, I'd much rather tune than being left in the shit.

[@nathanwhite617]

Game bar yes, but I don’t think the USB stuff happens on AM5. The TPM stutters I have never heard of, tell me more? Still a solid decision. I am still debating mine. It is really the whole dead end platform thing, and lack of PCIe5 M.2-to a much lesser extent-that is holding me off Intel. Also general cost if you want DDR5

[@fullkebabalchemist3371]

@@nathanwhite617 Best I can explain it, is that a few times per day your system would just freeze and start sputtering for a few seconds, cutting off audio and dropping your fps to 2, didn't matter what you were doing, gaming, movies, or just idling on desktop. You can see examples if you just google amd tpm stutter. AM5 will propably be free of that too, much like the usb issue, but all the firmware/agesa issues I personally had with am4, makes me appreciate the stability of the intel platform. Lacking the ability to upgrade the cpu down the line is ofc the major downside. I did upgrade on am4, 2700x-3900x-5900x, but by the time I hit the last one, I already wanted a new motherboard that had better features, so by the time we hit that last supported cpu on x670, might be the same thing, so really didn't matter that much for me, but ymmv.

[@MombaCoD]

For these top-tier CPUs Streamers need all the cores to run the game, OBS, mixing, and uploading to multiple sources. Losing 8 cores over Intel's i9 monolithic CPU is what needs to be tested. People buying this are often Streamers try to get by with 1 PC vs 2 PCs.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

should have no prob w software encoder, yeah most likely no fps lost

[@Farming-Technology]

ty to the donors! If you ever get board FC a dive into ksp2 performance would be interesting :)

[@JasonXBeats]

Frame chasers - what motherboard would you suggest to get for the 7800x3d? Something sorta future proof kinda?

[@theregularninja5398]

Maybe x670e aorus Master

[@eastsidechump92]

so for apex legends to maintain stable 240fps with a 4090 (1% lows higher than 240), is it recommended to go with the 13900K over the 7800x3d?

[@javajoe_gaming9923]

Here if someone responds

[@PrezesPL]

Can you check how these processors perform in games like War Thunder in VR, where the CPU often becomes a bottleneck much faster? It's hard to find even one unbiased test online, and it's unclear whether VR performance depends on clock speed, the number of cores, or cache memory. Thanks.

[@Mongoloidmyke]

heck of a community! Big shoutout, Thanks to everyone.

[@nXqd]

agree, it's all about 1% fps low in 2023, we don't want that max fps anymore, we want 1% low stay close to the high as much as possible.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

true but smtms worst case fps doesnt always hardwares fault

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

finding lowest/heaviest areas at games also req effort

[@yeshwantkethineni3694]

Can you test the iGPU on the 3D/non 3D with a

[@CarnivoryHODL]

This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for

[@PaulsGamingLive]

Any info on the power draw on the MAX OC cpus? I honestly want to keep my power as low as possible on my next pc

[@GUTT3RZ]

Amd uses less power. Check out the gamer nexus vid

[@redclaw72666]

"Low power" lol 🤡

[@PaulsGamingLive]

@@redclaw72666 No one used the term "low power" so I really don't get the clown face for someone asking about power draw for each chip at MAX OC...

[@brothatwasepic]

Thanks so much man. This helps me so much

[@deegSZ]

thank you for this video and thank u supporters, im a new guy here just found your channel not too long ago and im happy i did.

[@theoldpcgamer77]

🤣I'm older and playing Hogwarts right now with my stock 12900k and xmp ddr5 6200mhz with a 4090 at 4k 120hz. I'm enjoying it so much, the stress these fps gamers must feels wanting to tune up stuff for a few fps more, i couldn't be arsed with any of that. Frame gen is more useful to single player gamers than any bios screen. Cool to see some theoretical fps though, none issue for me though at 120hz.

[@FrameChasers]

Amen brother, I wish there were more gamers in the hardware space and not so many bored Reddit warriors

[@lightward9487]

​@@FrameChasers Amén por AMD RIP está muerto ya no va a competir a Intel Jajaja Sólo Amén por AMD RIP

[@nathanwhite617]

@@lightward9487I think you missed the point of his comment

[@jimjohn2094]

A delidded OC 7000 X3D video would be great. Definitely watch that. From what i've researched you need Thermal Grizzly stuff to delid, frame and short backplate

[@MTDucas]

thanks for the in depth video....now i cam make a correct decision on what CPU to get

[@Monk-Darlington]

Great intro, I'll comment again after I watch the rest :)

[@joebee1459]

That intro was fire! Lol

[@husainalumran]

A question , why did u hied the intel's bios versions while show the amd ones?

[@michaelnguyen9027]

Thank you. How did you get a 7800X3D before they sent out any samples? Do you have any benchmarks for R5 Siege?

[@wmnsriteslol]

He doesn't have one. He is disabling 1 of the ccds on a 7950x3d to simulate a 7800x3d

[@darreno1450]

He's a BS artist fishing for clicks.

[@Sundara229]

Can't overstate how important this channel for the community is. Thanks for all your efforts!

[@boozinncroozin]

Everyone thanks for your support. I enjoy his reviews :)

[@mr.nobody4494]

Thanks for testing 4K. Good video 👌

[@patches8291]

Thanks for the MSFS 2020 benchmarks

[@Spektr_0]

These low budget intros are the best thing on KZbin. Keep it up my bro!

[@tomorpedreiro3032]

Damn those lows are way lower than I expected, but its like you said - want to save money? go for 7800x3d and cheap 6000 cl30 and youre good to go. if amd would actually used marketing well for this strategy, it would be whole different story

[@FrameChasers]

Dude thank you so much for the tip 😭😭😭😭

[@tomorpedreiro3032]

@@FrameChasers I know its nothing vs your usuals subs but you know, atleast its something 😅

[@FrameChasers]

@@tomorpedreiro3032 1$ or 100$ man, I show gratitude and appreciation all the same 🙏

[@tomorpedreiro3032]

@@QuaK3RRR you can buy some 7200cl 34 or 7600-7800 cl36 with decent board and just turn on xmp as well and still have better lows, its more like about money difference :D lows are important and in warzone amd struggles with that, but for less money its decent

[@tomorpedreiro3032]

@@QuaK3RRR i know its hard to get insane ram speeds, but its not hard to run 7200-7600 with decent timing common man :D and yes you will still get better lows, even with 13900k with 6000 only offers decent performance in warzone beating current amds withou t x3d like its nothing

[@markvaldez8602]

looking forward to your price to performance video!

[@rENEGADE666JEDI]

Re bar was on? Because it's hard for me to believe that super-fast memory gives so much performance ;)

[@jggg31]

As MW2 ranked play is becoming a lot more popular compared to Warzone. It would be nice to see these comparisons at 1080p and see which CPU wins.

[@kharaf9920]

think MW2 is optimized for AMD if i am not wrong. So AMD should win in almost any case (Again if im not wrong)

[@nathanwhite617]

@@kharaf9920you are thinking of GPUs

[@kharaf9920]

@@nathanwhite617 you're probably right , it may have been the 7900 xtx

[@Mr.Sjottdeig]

Very good video, you took the 1% Lows in 😆

[@Vexrak]

What about for gaming + streaming on same pc with minimal FAFO? Still 13900k?

[@iLegionaire3755]

Buy the Intel Core i9 14900KS or Intel Core i9 14900K or AMD Ryzen 7950X3D ONLY IF YOU CANNOT GET THE 7800X3D or want to do more than just gaming. The best gaming CPU's are the Intel Core i9 14900KS and the AMD Ryzen 7800X3D for sure. Avoid the AMD Ryzen7900X3D, it's a poor value to the consumer, slower than both the 7950X3D and the 7800X3D. Let alone a 14900KS with proper EK-QUANTUM DELTA² TEC, a total monster that can clock 6.90 all performance cores, 7 GHZ on two performance cores.

[@sulimanthemagnificent4893]

I wonder if the actual 7800X3D is actually going to potentially be faster... doubt it though...

[@mattc487]

My biggest regret is that I bought a 7900X3D w/o finding this channel first. That said, after a month of researching my CPU's features and functions, learning about the known issue of using 2 vs 4 DIMM slots of DDR5 (and not being able to use EXPO profile), and switching CPPC settings in bio from AUTO -> DRIVER: Yeah I regret nothing! Intel IS awesome; used to buy nothing but team blue. While the first month of going team red was a bit frustrating, I'm acutually really enjoying my new CPU now more than ever playing games like starfield w/ only 20-30% CPU utilization lol

[@lolitaexpresspilot88]

AMD is really tough for adhd manchilds who can't spend an hour in bios properly overclocking memory and setting PBO, I kinda get it, I was 14 years old once too. You will get through it bro

[@salamdrik]

you still get dip on AMD cpu if its cooled by Peltier System below 16 C water ?

[@tristanwait4itlegendary]

If I have the 7800x3d and a 180p 165 Hz monitor can i Turn on Vsync to ease the cpu load

[@Cratic1321]

Grand! What a stand-up review

[@tech6294]

Great video as usual! OMG that intro though.... 🤣

[@rkneeshaw]

is the second CCD disabled on the 7950x3d "stock" benchies too?

[@FrameChasers]

Yes

[@peterpeter5666]

U JUST GOT A NEW SUB. GREAT WORK ! honesty over cash any day !

[@radugrigoras]

So yeah least amount of FAFO is the 7800x3d, enable expo and PBO, good 360aio and the lowest latency 6000 ram and you are in the race. Really it’s going to come down to platform pricing and budget. I would do a 13600k DDR5 vs the X3d. Then take the more expensive build and add a 4070ti to the budget and see if you can get your hands on a 4080 for the cheaper platform in the same budget. Then bench them.

[@radugrigoras]

I just did some quick messing around on pcpartpicker and to get to a 4080 vs a 4070ti you’d have to go 12600k, 16gb ddr4. I’m still thinking that the 12600 with the 4080 would beat the 7800x3d with a 4070ti. 20% on GPU which that gain applies to all games not just v-cache loving titles. So for a relatively “budget” 2300$ build I think the 12600k would be the winner. 6P cores at 5.2ghz all day. DDR4000 CL14 with some timing tweaks and upgrade from 4070ti to 4080.

[@robertfarmer6316]

Would love that video, and interesting points raised above about the pcpsrtpicker lists

[@michaelthompson9798]

Thank you to ALL Frame Chaser supporters,including myself 😅😂🤣💪👍. The 7800X3D is definitely the cpu to get from this 7000 series lineup for gamers 🥰✊💪

[@ji3200]

If you are 4k gamer then x3d is not useful

[@SKHYJINX]

​@@ji3200 How at 4K specifically would you not get the GPU bound load scenario with any of these. None of the CPUs matter in a comparison at 4K.

[@darkfire3691]

@@SKHYJINX it will matter in near future, people upgrade CPU's less often than GPU's

[@GlasgowIsBlue]

@@darkfire3691 I’m a noob, could you explain why the CPU won’t be great at 4k in the near future? Thats my main goal for a CPU.

[@griffenxzable]

​@GlasgowIsBlue Cause most of the work is been done by the GPU. Reason when you compare 4k benchmark the majority of games fps are similar.

[@VulgrDisplay]

Should do a vid with the 5800x3d in the mix for the AM3 bros on the fence about platform upgrading.

[@jadeprinces]

All i have to say is thank you for all information

[@isakh8565]

Fantastic video, your best yet imo 👍

[@dxramos]

That intro made my day lol😂

[@obsolete4735]

Uau, at the beginning I was wandering why you're only comparing with 6ghz custom loop powerhouse 13900k. Awesome point and very nice video. Subscribing for more.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

bcs k series are meant to be oced, think its fair, and also think 7950 should be better if some cores disabled (versatile cpu, max cores for heavy tasks) but yeah its a x3d known to have great perf at default

[@Pleplerhep]

Thank you so much for this, 13900ks it is.

[@Killerspaten]

why did you black out the bios version on the intel cpu?

[@faabiotv4356]

is the CPU good for a single stream pc setup ?

[@mchonkler7225]

Better performance for less than half the power draw. Seems good to me.

[@TheJonazas]

Sometimes better performance* sometimes loses, but that doesn't matter since as you said half power draw AND is much cheaper. WIN!

[@primesuspect4992]

​@@TheJonazas he's using max oc on the Intel. That's not the average user. Without running highest memory freq and the same oc on Intel. The difference would be larger.

[@Gamerloaders]

​@@primesuspect4992you missed the whole point, amd has issues with high speed memory scaling, intel does much better, these are top end chips, you wanna oc the hell outta here, also this channel has s strictly for competitive gaming, there's no other channel dedicated on their primary goals.

[@ViniKake]

I'm really late to this, will there be another video showing the 7950x Max OC(De-Lid)?

[@2APJ007TACO]

Got one for you... Building a PC with AM5 chipset... I do some video editing for the kids sports and gaming and play FPS games such as MW and PUBG... what AM5 chip am I looking for?

[@_o.O__]

I still feel that the r9 7950x3d its still a half way decent deal for a not heavy watt consumption mindend build compared to the thirsty i9's

[@paulopjdc]

What a good video, very good details notes. The information is here, it is only scale who wanted or the denial speaks louder.

[@gurugamer8632]

Does amd 5950x bottle neck with RTX 4090, some say it can’t utilise it fully? I have amd 5950x ans have ordered the rtx 4090, should I upgrade the processor 7950x?😊

[@csabauri351]

Upgraded from 5900X to 7700X . I also have 4090 , yes the 5900x was holding the GPU back . (and i had pretty good OC on it ) . Now im upgrading to 7800X3D

[@swerty1374]

Great Video, Thankyou for all your hard work!

[@BaldmanAUS]

Appreciated!

[@moofin4170]

Something about the factorio results is wrong, because the extra cache does help with the tick times, maybe it's not loading the map properly, maybe it's loading another map entirely. 50 seconds is way too little for a map that size; maybe it's craping out because it's 100,000 ticks. People usually benchmark 10k. Either way, the results the program is giving back don't make sense. Nothing against you, but it would be nice if you re-ran it.

[@jasondondaneau2085]

such a mint channel great reviews.

[@Clambo226]

Only tech channel I trust now

[@lions7staso]

Brilliant work ! Keep it going !

[@ezer0923]

I was hoping for this architecture before. I hope they can fix their thread scheduling so I can game on one ccd and stream, discord, etc. with the other

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Other channels have said that you can do that. Gotta look around for me information on that.

[@AA-qv7fb]

@@NBWDOUGHBOY its fake news being spread by people who dont know what they are talking about, setting affinity is a waste of time and any result you see is just placebo.

[@saricubra2867]

You cannot fix the scheduler if the CPU doesn't have telemetry to give feedback to the OS for each program, the type of instruction being executed, etc.

[@saricubra2867]

​@@NBWDOUGHBOY But is not automatic, you have to use process lasso and other stuff.

[@griffin1366]

The "thread scheduler" is Windows Game Bar. LOL