7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge Full Profile | 6.5 PRC vs 7mm PRC vs 300 PRC

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Hornady made a gigantic splash when they announced the brand new 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge (7mm PRC) in late 2022. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen as much excitement surrounding a new cartridge as was the case with the 7mm PRC.
While many hunters and shooters were overjoyed with the introduction of the new cartridge, others were skeptical about the need for yet another new round. This was especially true considering the ongoing ammunition shortage at the time.
I’ll admit that I was initially unconvinced about the touted benefits of the 7mm PRC. However, I was pleasantly surprised by what I learned when I looked at the new 7mm PRC in detail.
In this episode, I discuss the history as well as the strengths and weaknesses of the 7mm PRC in detail. I’ll also provide some information on how the 7mm PRC compares to the other cartridges in Hornady’s Precision Rifle Cartridge family with the 6.5 PRC and the 300 PRC to give you an idea of what sort of performance you can expect from the cartridge and so you can decide if it best fits your needs as a hunter.
To read a more detailed analysis of the 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge and see a comparison of the 6.5 PRC vs 7mm PRC vs 300 PRC visit:
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300 PRC vs 7mm PRC vs 6.5 PRC

[@brianperiso674]

I can't get enough of these calibers. Thank you for your time making this podcast!

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Glad you like them!

[@gc5Hayward]

Very detailed! Great job 👍🏾

[@DanielPhillips86VA]

Love your videos. I don’t subscribe to many, but the 3rd ID in the background solidified it. Thanks for the great videos!

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

That's awesome, thanks! What BN were you in? I served with 3-69 AR

[@jmgates09]

I been waiting for this!!!

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Glad to hear it!

[@125varma]

People enjoy the entertainment over science and facts; this is precisely why you don't have as many followers and other channels. Thank you for the great work, I very much appreciate it!

[@KG5SNU]

Well done analysis

[@nj-bz8pv]

Nice job. Thank you

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Thanks for watching!

[@smittyjohn343]

Excellent video

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Thank you very much!

[@samntimramsey1112]

Best video yet on the 7m prc. I wish I could afford one. Great job.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@evanwindom]

I think a lot depends on what ranges you shoot. At 300 yards and in, there's really not a huge difference between these and most of the 30 cal family. If you don't hunt at long range, you might be better off just keeping what you have.

[@bobmcmillen4502]

I’ve been waiting for your 7 prc take

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Glad I could give you what you were looking for!

[@bobmcmillen4502]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I bought a Mosberg 7prc for $425. Shot so good we now have 3 of them in our family. I’m reloading for all 3. .5 moa on all three. Thanks for your input.

[@chancearmand2247]

Thanks for the video. Looking for a replacement for my 300WM for reduced recoil. Perfect world would like to hunt with it but also have a fun day at the range without jacking up my back lol

[@Longtrailside]

I hunt in heavy bear area, so 30 cals are what i go for. My second favorite is the 7mm. You cant go wrong with either, and thell both get the job done.

[@Jeff_Seely]

Congrats, John a very sucessful hunt in Africa! I have to eat a few of my statements about the 7mmPRC platform. The data did raise my eyebrows a bit. But these statements remain my reason why I will not get one: 1 - I already have a 7mm RemMag and it still checks all the boxes for me. 2 - I know a few guys that ran out a spent a lot of money on the 7 PRCs and they already had another 7mm platform that suited their type of hunting and shooting. 3 - These guys will likely never shoot past 400yds and I probably won't very much, if I do. By all means, it is an impressive platform but I doubt it will eclipse the big daddy 7mm Rem Mag in sales or unit count. Hornady picked a very hard bore to dominate, in the 7mm group. Thanks as always for a fantastic study!

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Always good to hear from you Jeff! Glad you enjoyed the video. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that someone buy a 7mm PRC if they already had a 7mm Rem Mag if they already had one they liked (unless they just wanted one). However, I think the 7mm PRC is a darn good place to start for those that want a darn capable and efficient all-around hunting cartridge. Like you, I also don't see the 7mm Rem Mag going anywhere any time soon. We'll just have to see what the future holds though!

[@Jeff_Seely]

Agreed on all accounts. The 7 PRC is much better ballistically than I realized it would be. Take care John and happy shooting sir!

[@johnbackman4475]

I see the 7 PRC becoming the go to elk round. There are places where long shots (past 400 IMO) occur regularily. With the gusto to expand monolithic bullets you would get all the energy, penetration, expansion and accuracy those very few who put in the practice to ethically shoot animals at that distance would have all they need.

[@eddielombera5862]

My 1940s 300wby cartridge with 195gr copper bulldozers bullets, bc .675, at 3200fps says it’s a better elk round then the 7prc… see what I’m saying? There’s cartridges that already exist that have been doing what the 7prc can do, but better for elk…

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

The big benefit of the 7mm PRC is that it delivers excellent ballistic performance combined with great accuracy potential and moderate recoil in a cartridge that fits in a standard length rifle action. Plus, it does all of those things with off the shelf rifles and factory ammo. And no, there's no other cartridge that exists at this instant that delivers that exact mix benefits of the 7mm PRC that I just described. Does the 300 Weatherby outclass the 7mm PRC in the ballistics department? Yes, but it requires a full magnum length rifle action and custom handloads to achieve the performance you describe. That's not to say the 300 Weatherby is "bad". Indeed, it sounds like it's working great for you and I wouldn't see the need make a switch either if I were you. You're also free to disagree with me on the value of the individual characteristics that I describe as 'benefits" of the 7mm PRC. There are also plenty of other cartridges that are more than capable on elk. But you're quite simply wrong when you say that "There’s cartridges that already exist that have been doing what the 7prc can do, but better for elk".

[@manofchaitea6904]

@@eddielombera5862 There are definitely better hunting rounds than the PRC line, while they can be used, they are more for paper like the 6.5cm. What bothers me is since they have good long range ballistics, like the 6.5cm crowd, they are going to start trying snipe game in unethical ranges which will lead to waste and suffering of animals, all for the look at mah snipin d*ck... Sniping is for combat against squishy people targets, not solid built game.

[@charlesmullins3238]

Them mcquarters done the 7sprc which I wonder how they compare…necked up 6.5prc I recon…I’m bout to try my first 143eldx in my 24” carbon waypoint..$53bx ain’t cheap but cheaper than 7mm terminal accent@$73bx…havnt tried em yet but heard good things..

[@byronhusband7479]

All the guys who already have a 7mm Rem mag will say it’s pointless to get the new modernized 7mm PRC but all the guys with a little bit of money to spend will say hell with it…shit I got 2 300 win mags, look at that! One could say it’s pointless and another that’s more of a true gun/ rifle guy will fully understand jumping onto the bandwagon to grab the new popular 7PRC. I buy every rifle that every gun maker puts out…I just have a passion for this life 😁

[@bradpittman5075]

I think that for many of us, especially hand loaders with custom barrels, maybe long throats and fast twists, these new chamberings aren’t amazing. But I think the purpose is for the general person to be able to buy a stock rifle and shelf ammo and get really good results with that. Not as much fun for us but I am glad they’re doing it. FYI I am a 284 win guy, who also loves the 6 arc. Anyways good luck out there.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

I think you're right on the money with one of the goals of these cartridges is to deliver that sort of performance with stock rifles and factory ammo. Best of luck to you as well!

[@ronws2007]

My favorite round has been .308. But I really like the performance of the 7 mm PRC. Easier to handle than the .300 WM or .300 PRC. And more energy at impact than the 6.5 PRC, 6.5 Creedmoor, or even my favored .308. One .308 W 165 gr drops below 1k ft-lbs before 500 yards. But still good for a few hundred yards, of course. And not that all the foot pounds determine lethality but you need enough push to get through hide and bone. Hunting is my primary activity. Most places I hunt whitetail are heavily wooded with shot distances ranging from 70 yards to 250 yards. But I do like having a rifle that can go from deer hunting to ELR targeting by changing the ammo and changing zero. For now, my comfortable shooting distance is 300 yards. And my rifles are averaging 1 MOA. I will hit what I am aiming at. And on the 1 and 2 shot group of most hunting shots, I have smaller dispersion than that. I did not have 7 Rem Mag. And I would agree with others. If a guy already has that chambering, you don't really need a 7 PRC. You will just have to change what you do with reloading to get close to the same numbers, if that interests you. And I have seen a few elk taken with 7 RM successfully. I think the 7 PRC is fine for me, being my first 7 mm rifle. That being the case, why not go for the precision? But I understand sticking with a round that has done you well. How many other wildcat and gee whiz rounds have been out, including 6.5 Creedmoor and did the .308 go away? Not for me. I still have a handful of .308 s.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

I can't find fault with your reasoning!

[@patrioticguy1791]

I just bought a Bergara HMR in 7mmPRC and am so excited to take it to the range this weekend. I was also pleasantly surprised with the $45/box for factory Hornady ELDX 175's. Half the price of my 28 Nosler ammo.

[@guitarplayer4429]

If you know the answer would you please, According to his chart, is the 7mm supposed to target shoot at a distance better than 6.5 creedmoor??

[@ballisticlt7452]

@@guitarplayer4429The 6.5 CM will be cheaper to shoot and have less recoil. Other than that, the 7 prc will beat the creedmoor in every category by a long shot.

[@rpk5250]

Great video and your videos are very informative. Do you have any opinions about the best muzzle brake for rifles? Do you have any publications or do you know of a great source to find out what the best muzzle brake is for rifles even if it costs money? There’s so many options and it’s hard to find a single source of unbiased information like your channel

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

That's an excellent question and no, I do not (not right now any way). I've definitely put an article like that on my list of things to do though!

[@rpk5250]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog thank you

[@charlesdall3866]

I would be interested in a review of the little remembered.300 RCM especially vs .300 PRC, 300-06, 300 WSM. It stacks up well and was engineered to have a 20" barrel.

[@jfess1911]

The RCM cartridges (300 and 338) are excellent and are parent cases for the 6.5 PRC. The main issue with the 300 RCM was that it had a little less capacity and thus was slower than either the 300 WSM or RSAUM, especially when hand-loaded. At the time (2009), velocity was king and that was all that mattered, if you read the comparison articles. Laser rangefinders were expensive and uncommon, so a lot of shooters were still using 150 and 165gr bullet for max velocity and flattest trajectory, just in case they mis-estimated the range. The WSM was (very) slightly flatter. It also could not use longer or heavier bullets than the WSM or SAUM so no advantage there. FWIW, the 300 Rem SAUM had the same problem, although it was closer to the WSM's capacity. Ruger and Hornady (the developer of the cartridge) tried to push the notion that the 300 RCM was better in a handy 20" barrel than the traditional 300 Win Mag (which typically wore a 24-26" one), but did not gain traction with it.

[@gsitzkowitz]

If one already owns a accurate 7 RM, I see no need to jump on the 7 PRC bandwagon. My 7 RM will shoot a sub 1/2 MOA group with 175 Nosler ABLR bullets sporting a .648 BC at just under at 2900 fps. Those of us who “survived” the 308 vs 30-06 wars know 100 fps +- in the field is meaningless. If you don’t have a 7 RM then yeah look at the PRC. Just like if you don’t have a 270 look at the 270 WSM or the 6.8 Western.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Yeah, I'm with you. No reason for the majority of hunters to switch from a good 7mm Rem Mag to a 7mm PRC unless you just want to. I think the 7mm PRC is better, but that's more of an incremental than a life altering difference compared to the 7mm Rem Mag at the ranges most people are actually hunting at. Thanks for your comment!

[@albertlemont5471]

The 7mm RM chamber can be wiped out by a 7 PRC reamer. FYI

[@WesleyAHuff]

What is your gun and scope?

[@WesleyAHuff]

Excellent video. Thanks!

[@bobmcmillen4502]

@@albertlemont5471respectfully I don’t think that’s correct.

[@dbeardsley0]

I love my new 300prc Bergara Wilderness ridge rifle. Ill be taking it to South Africa next summer. Probably a bit much for my Blesbok but it'll be perfect on an Eland

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

What ammo do you plan on using?

[@dbeardsley0]

​@@ThebiggamehuntingblogI'll just use the Hornaday Hunters Precision factory ammo. It's shooting half moa out of my rifle so it'll work just fine

[@bustabass9025]

I'd jump over two or three 7MM PRC rifles, to get to my 28 Nosler. 168 grain Nosler AccuBond LR bullets and Retumbo magnum powder, and it's game over for anything on the business end of this laser beam of a rifle!

[@tomforeman4976]

Hornaday pay very smart people very good to find nitxh things that are in areas that some one else noticed. Not just lucky.

[@nikos6220]

As a hunter, reloader and not reaching out beyond 400 yards, neither the 6.5 nor the 300 PRC blow my hair back. The 7mm PRC is the interesting ONE. The 6.5 PRC at 400 and in does absolutely nothing I couldn’t do with my 30-06. And the extra horse power of the 300 PRC is just not worth the recoil.

[@silaspierre1377]

ooooh nice

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Glad you like it!

[@timwilde4200]

Would the 7mm be enough for Moose at ranges like 400-600 yards? I was considering the 300, but since the 7mmprc came along have wondered if it could to the job effectively with less recoil.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

I'd still lean towards the 300 Win Mag myself, but yeah, the 7mm PRC would work too.

[@johnbackman4475]

600 yds on a moose seems exteme shooting to me. Most can be stalked within .45-70 range. I do see some videos in places like the Canadian east coast islands where they shoot across large marshes to 350ish. If you study the charts in this videoyou see a 120 ft lbs seperate the best loads at 600 yds in 7 vs 300. Both get blown 17”+ w a 10mph wind. So the big difference at distance is really frontal diameter. I hunt with a .35 Whelen so that tells you what I think means the most.

[@maccaspope2275]

Bullets kill, not headstamps. Put a bullet that's still within it's expansion velocity range into it's lungs and it will die. You can do that with a much smaller cartridge than a 7prc too.

[@maccaspope2275]

@johnbackman4475 Except the frontal diameter that actually matters is the diameter of the bullet after it expanded. A smaller calibre bullet can cause more tissue destruction than a larger one by using a bullet that expands more. Of course, the larger one can expand even larger by using a similar bullet. But then the issue is that in order to get similar BC for shooting things far away, you must pay the price of recoil and accuracy, which is significantly more important when it comes to killing things than 'energy' or the headstamp on the cartridge or whatever other nonsense people will bring up.

[@The_Judge300]

Yes, the 7mm is good enough for Moose at 400-600 yards with the right bullets, but I really don't see the point of shooting at Moose from that far away. In most areas, the shooting distance when Moose hunting is much shorter than 400-600 yards. But the Moose will quickly die from a high quality 7mm bullet if you put it in the right place from 400-600 yards. I have seen hundreds of Moose killed and I have never experienced that a .30 cal bullet has killed a Moose any quicker than a 7mm bullet, or even a .270 or a 6.5, if high quality bullets are used and the Moose was hit in the right place. Crap bullets and poor shot placements have always been the reasons for an injured Moose. A hunter shooting a cartridge where he/she is not scared of the recoil and able to place a high quality bullet where it needs to be, is EXTREMELY much better than a "macho" idiot that want to show how tough he is and shoots with a cannon he in reality is scared of and puts the bullet in the guts of the Moose. With modern high quality bullets a smaller caliber bullet can do the job on animals even better than older design larger caliber and heavier bullets can. To many hunters are obsessed with caliber and starting bullet weight. Of course there are limits for how small/light caliber/cartridge that a hunter should use when hunting an animal and you should not try stupid stunts by hunting with cartridges that give you extreme small margins for errors, like trying to hunt huge brown bears with 6.5 Grendel or similar. I don't own a .30 caliber hunting rifle anymore as I see no reasons for it. I own multiple rifles up to and including 7mm and then my next is a 375 Ruger. I prefer to use my 375 Ruger on Moose, but I don't hesitate using a 6.5mm or a 7mm on Moose either and I have killed many Moose with 1-shot clean kills with 6.5mm and 7mm cartridges. Moose is not that hard to kill if you hit where you should hit. The reason why I prefer the 375 Ruger on Moose is that they drop faster,(and that is great in thick bush) I can shoot more angled shots, it is great if a Moose is injured and way better for defense against bears. Even if Moose is rather easy to kill when not injured, they suddenly can take much longer time to kill when full of adrenaline after getting injured, and specially when using lighter and smaller caliber bullets. If recoil is no issue, I don't think 7mm is ideal for Moose, but I don't think a .30 cal is ideal either. To me, ideal Moose cartridges if recoil is no issue, are cartridges like .35 Whelen, 9.3x62, 375 Ruger, 375 H&H and similar cartridges, but putting a high quality bullet where it counts is by far the most important. When using a 7mm cartridge on Moose, you should focus on broadside or neck shots and not try quartering to and from shots on Moose in my opinion. The margin of error is greatly reduced on quartering shots on Moose.

[@diggernash1]

Outfitter shoots well in my cheap 7 PRC Mossberg Patriot

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Awesome! That rifle is one of the best value's available in 7mm PRC right now

[@ColeyJack8590]

I put mine in a chassis and it became a tack driver

[@jmgates09]

Im a 6.5 n 30 cal guy but there is no denying that 7prc might be the best overall cartridge out there but that 300 prc is a ballistic missle hits so hard

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

100%!

[@battru8302]

If ammo was more readily available I would love this calibre. Although a 7mm fan I have never owned one but believe 7mm is perfect. Always wanted a 280 REM but as above not commonly available 😢Not a big fan of short necks though. But that is just me.

[@JosephWilhoit-ef6nl]

I had a 280 remington loved it should have never sold back when I had it from like 2000 to 2006 u could find ammo for it anywhere 16 bucks a box lol

[@jacobdeem8187]

I feel like if you have a 7 mag there is no point in the prc but if your new to the 7mm the prc seems like a no brainer. You can go hunting or shoot long with the prc.

[@jmgates09]

You got it wrong Federal now has factory 7prc ammo seen it yesterday its a ELDX in there premium line

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Good catch, thanks! I can't believe I forgot that one! Exact same bullet as the Hornady Precision line, just made by Federal.

[@jmgates09]

Pretty Nickle casings too

[@ronlowney4700]

🤔 I would much rather load the Federal Terminal Ascent bullet for it - it is a much tougher bullet, with extremely good penetration and weight retention! They have two 7mm Federal Terminal Ascent bullets - a 155 grain (B.C. of 0.586) and a 175 grain (B.C. of 0.625) on page #52 of their 2023 Catalogue! 🎯

[@brianklamer3328]

Now we need a 270 PRC fast twist that has more velocity than the 6.8 Western or 270 WSM.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

That would be cool! Tough mountain to climb, but certainly cool. I know Hornady is working on an additional PRC cartridge (maybe more than one), but I have no idea what caliber it is or how successful they'll be. 270 PRC? 338 PRC? Something else? Only time will tell...

[@brianklamer3328]

Hope it's not a .257 caliber PRC, too small for what most American hunters would choose. 25 calibers bit the dust when the modern 6.5 cartridges hit the market.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Interesting idea though, especially if combined with some new, high BC .25 caliber projectiles like the 27 Nosler and 6.8 Western did in .277 caliber. Might breathe new life into that bore diameter...

[@derekmcmurry4263]

7PRC necked up to 30 cal, hopefully I'll get a reamer made soon and will have a build underway in the near future

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

interesting idea!

[@derekmcmurry4263]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Yes. It will outperform 300WSM and case capacity is right about what I've been looking for. The 6.5PRC was necked up to 7mm right away and has been a huge success in competition, namely because Lapua brass available. I actually did buy a Tikka 300WSM and already sent the barreled action to my builder to lengthen the throat so as to seat bullets out longer - 180 Nos AB and Berger 210 VLD. I sent him both dummy rounds. Also bought the long action mag for that Tikka Already ordered 190 grain bullets for the 30-7PRC. I've not heard if anyone else has already built a rifle in this chambering but have emails out to builders and reamer manufacturers

[@mr.mr.3301]

I was thinking something similar. I’d like to 65 PRC nicked up to a 7 mm. That would be a better 7 mm 08. I have no use for magnum.

[@SkeeterDunn]

Why didn't you include the .28 Nosler? It's a 7mm caliber and the light version of the 300RUM. The 28 will outperform all of these.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Not to worry, will be doing separate cartridge comparisons in the near future where I include stuff like the 7mm Rem Mag and 28 Nosler vs the 7mm PRC. The 28 Nosler comparison is one that I'm looking forward to myself...

[@stephenhester7354]

This was advertised as a PRC discussion, and that's exactly what he delivered.

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ Please Note that Federal has Multiple Bullet Weights For the 7mm Terminal Ascent Bullets on page #52 of their 2023 Catalogue! 🥳 This would Include the 155 grain (B.C. of 0.586) and 175 grain (B.C. of 0.625)! 😃

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Yep! They only list that 155gr as a "coming soon" 7mm PRC loading on their web site, but a little bird has told me they're working hard to get that "heavy" 7mm PRC loading out to the public ASAP. Same with a "heavy" 300 PRC Terminal Ascent loading...

[@ronlowney4700]

🤠 Well, my caliber of choice is the 270 Winchester and I am anxious to try the 155 grain Terminal Ascent bullet! It is the same length as the 165 grain Nosler ABLR bullet, which was proven by both Reloading Weatherby and Frontline Rejects, to shoot (stabalize out of a 1 in 10 twist barrel)! Because the 165 grain Nosler ABLR bullet has a plastic tip, while the 155 grain Federal Terminal Ascent bullet does not, however (so their center of mass is different) - so, I am not sure if this Federal bullet will stabalize (without me having to go to a faster twist barrel)? My Sako 85 really likes the 150 grain Nosler ABLR bullets, so I really can't complain! I only like to use Bonded Bullets or Monolithic Solids, except on Antelope! Just as an important side note: the 270 Winchester is More Versital (80 grain to 180 grain) than either the 6.5 mm (90 grain to 180 grain) or 7mm in bullet weight (100 grain to 195 grain) - Contrarry to What Keeps Getting Falsely Stated On Most U-Tube Hunting Channels! 🤥 And, it has more "Hunting Bullets" (Bonded or Monolithic Solid Bullets) in each 5 grain increment than either! 😯 The 270 has these "Hunting Bullets" in every 5 grain increment weight grain, except the 160 grain, 170 grain, and 175 grain weight - more than either the 6.5mm and 7mm calibers! Plus, the 270 has HIGHER B.C. "HUNTING BULLETS" Monolithic Solids or Bonded Bullets in 17 of 21 bullets of similar weights (in 5 grain increments, with 1 tie) as the 7mm caliber and a 14 to 5 Advantage over the 6.5mm caliber! 😯 So, next time you do your comparisons, why don't you talk about that? 😉 The 6.8mm caliber (0.277") Wrongfully gets a Bad Rap as Not Having as High of B.C. Bullets as Either of these 2 calibers - but It Does Have More Good Options in "Modern Hunting Bullets"! 🥇Mainly, this happens because people are not keeping up with the modern bullet development for it! 👨‍🏫 I also suspect with more 270 cartridges on the market, that we will see an improvement in the Heavier Bullet Weight Options, Where it is still currently lacking (the 160 grain, 170 grain, and 175 grain Hunting Bullet Options)! This should also change with the 100th Anniversary of the 270 Winchester and the Fact that it is Now Being Chambered in Faster Twist Barrels (both 1 in 8 and 1 in 7.5 twists)? 🤗 I Just Thought That I Would Bring This To Your Attention! 🕵️‍♂️

[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ Also, I wanted to ask you what formulas are you using - as your recoil numbers seem a bit high? Are they powder specific? For Example, for the 7mm prc and your data, I got: Velocity(gun) = ((175 grains × 3000 ft/s) + (67.1 grains × 4000 ft/s)) ÷ (7 lbs x 7000 grains/lb) = 16.19 ft/s; then, for Gun (Recoil) = (7.0 lb × 16.19 ft/s^2)/(7.0 lbs x 32.174 ft/s^2) = 28.51 ft lbs? I think you calculated 33.6 ft lbs! How did you come up with that number? 🤷‍♂️

[@garyjohns4711]

the 300 is better at LOOOONG range!!!!!

[@dankcincy]

Define "long range". 3k and in, the 7 is the winner ballistically speaking. I've tried hard to find a reason to not rebarrel my 300Prc to 7Prc and have yet to find one.

[@fjb5263]

The eldx is one of the worst terminal performance bullet on the market.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

I like the ELD-X for deer sized game, but I'm also very apprehensive about using it on bigger stuff. What specific weight/caliber ELD-X bullets have you used on game and what happened? I'm genuinely curious.

[@fjb5263]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I have had them explode on the shoulder of deer under 200 yards no penetration at all.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

what caliber and bullet weight?

[@fjb5263]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog 143 6.5 out of a 264 win mag.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Oh yeah, I'll bet that bullet was screaming out of the barrel. Can you explain in more detail what happened? I assume you did end up killing that deer? Did you have to shoot it more than once?

[@mr.mr.3301]

Copper all the way.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

I really like that 160gr CX bullet

[@chadwallace3598]

That eldx bullet sucks

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

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[@ronlowney4700]

🕵️‍♂️ Yes, the 7mm prc is a better cartridge than the 7mm Remington Magnum (because it maintains a greater velocity with a shorter barrel)! My philosophy on hunting is to use a Very Temperature Stable Powder (H4350, H4831, H4831SC, and H1000) and a Bonded Bullet! So, Let's Compare Both Cartridges With the Nosler ABLR Bullets in 168 grain (B.C. of 0.616) and 175 grain (B.C. of 0.648), because they will have better terminal performance than that Horneday ELD-X bullet (better weight retention) and better B.C.'s than that 160 grain CX bullet! With a 200 yard Zero, We get the following results at 500 yards: 7mm prc (70.4 Grains of H1000 and 168 grain NABLR bullet), MV = 3,100 ft/s, Drop = -31.0", Drift = -9.9", Energy = 2,317 ft lbs, Velocity = 2,492 ft/s; 7mm Remington Magnum (70.0 grains of H1000 and a 168 grain NABLR bullet), MV = 2,993 ft/s, Drop = -33.3", Drift = -10.0", Energy = 2,178 ft lbs, Velocity = 2,416 ft/s; 7mm prc (63.9 grains of H1000 and a 175 grain NABLR bullet), MV = 2,950 ft/s, Drop = -34.0", Drift = -9.7", Energy = 2,247 ft lbs, Velocity = 2,405 ft/s; 7mm Remington Magnum (65.5 grains of H1000 and a 175 grain NABLR bullet), MV = 2,850 ft/s, Drop = -36.7", Drift = -10.2", Energy = 2,085 ft lbs, Velocity = 2,316 ft/s! So, what we can see is that with this best performing (velocity wise) temperature stable powder for these cartridges, the 7mm prc is more efficient and faster than the 7mm Remington Magnum and the 168 grain Nosler ABLR bullet is the flattest shooting bullet out to ethical hunting distances! You will also find this 168 grain Nosler ABLR bullet (B.C. of 0.525) weight the best choice in other hunting cartridges, like the 300 wsm and 30-06, for longer distance shots at game animals! 🤠 It is the Ideal Bullet Weight for All of these cartridges, when it comes to long distance hunting on North American Big Game Species! 🎯

[@maccaspope2275]

Terminal performance is not all about weight retention, it's about creating a large wound channel in the vital organs. The more a bullet expands, the bigger the wound channel. Bonded bullets need a lot more velocity to expand so the terminal performance is generally worse than a heavy (high sectional density) non bonded bullet shot at moderate velocity (2600-2900 fps), especially at longer ranges. A 212 or 220 gr ELDX or 208 or 225 gr ELDM is a much better choice for killing things at long range in a 30 cal magnum, they have a much better BC for retaining velocity to expand the bullet at range, the expand at lower velocities than bonded bullets, and the moderate velocity and high sectional density will give enough penetration.

[@ronlowney4700]

🤠 If you are hunting BIG animals - Like Elk, Moose, Wild Bison, or Brown/Grizzly Bears - You Want Good Bullet Penetration, While Also Getting Good Bullet Expansion! The Horneday Bullets Aren't My Top Choices Either - I prefer tough bullets like the Swift A-Frame, Federal Terminal Accent, and Federal Trophy Bonded Tip - Just to Name A Few! 🧐

[@ronlowney4700]

🤠 At Long Ranges, The Bonded Nosler ABLR Bullet is a Better Choice than the Horneday Non-Bonded Bullets that Fragment and Provide Poor Penetration and Poor Weight Retention! 🤮

[@ronlowney4700]

🤪 Do Actually Plan on Eating the Animals You Shoot? Blood Shot Meat Gets Thrown Out and Blowing a Bowling Ball Sized Hole in Their Backside Doesn't Mean That You Will Kill Them Any Faster! I Have Owned Some Of The VERY BIGGEST - AND I WOULD DARE SAY THE VERY BIGGEST 30 CALIBER (Including 308 Caliber) MAGNUMS - And I Can Safely Say That It Doesn't Guarantee You That You'll Kill Them Any Faster Than When Using My 30-06 or 270 Winchester! NOPE! 🤥