8 Dangers of Resin 3D Printing and How to Overcome Them

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@sockylogic2014
@sockylogic2014 Ай бұрын
Me: watching the video while my home 3D printer is running.
@L00ww
@L00ww Ай бұрын
@@sockylogic2014 same. I asked elegoo about the fumes, they said i just need a well ventilated room
@sockylogic2014
@sockylogic2014 Ай бұрын
@@L00ww I have my printer in a grow tent with an inline fan venting out a window. I can't smell any resin or alcohol when its running. I still use a respirator when working with the resin/alcohol--don't want to be huffing the fumes.
@michaelfranzgarcia7769
@michaelfranzgarcia7769 28 күн бұрын
same making a 1/18 killa khan with full articulation
@relem1
@relem1 27 күн бұрын
same. @L00ww i whould rather not thrust 100% what a chinese company (due differents standard in safeness and hazard controll than USA or EU), say concerning "just a ventilated area". Take an extractor, if you do not have a room for the printing, like me, buy an enclosure capsule. take the filament one since the extra room are always welcome, and atleas one whit a room for fume extractor. Buy a fume extractor. For extra step, take into consideration to swap inside filter time to time. For extra step, buy two inside resin carbon filter (assuming there is space to put those inside the resin printer itself, aside for some particular combination of machine and active filters\heater there will be no printing quality issue). Take consideration in security first, then buy a printer. But to not succumb to fear or ignorance of something becouse is way better to pic up a 190% mark up already printed product.
@neckrite001
@neckrite001 23 күн бұрын
Same room is ventilated.
@redscope897
@redscope897 Ай бұрын
NO STOP THIS. I am really happy that you are explaining the risks. It is something I warn people about, also spray priming models with out a mask, airbrushing. However it is important to explain the risk in a responsible way if people are going to do it. Telling people not to print at home is far to alarmist. When you sell the models to people it really does make you look pretty bad. No matter you pointing out how ironic that position is it really does not come across well. You dont need to do the BS click bate, it makes you look worse and untrusting. Please stop. Education is good in the hobby your better than this BS rubbish. Can I also point when talking about saftey. 11:23. You have an employee working in the lab in a ruddy T-shirt, Shorts, open toed sandles, you have bottles of chemical just lying on the floor in the background, you have wires and cables exposed on the ground which at best are trip hazards and you have wheely chair right next to the cables. That lab has more risks than you covered in this video.
@sockylogic2014
@sockylogic2014 Ай бұрын
I was just about to point out the sandals and shorts. I also always wear a lab coat when I am working with my uncured resin/prints.
@andrewramsdale
@andrewramsdale Ай бұрын
Not defending the sandles and shorts but there in Ontario Canada there summers get into the high thirties Celsius witch is around 80 90 Fahrenheit plus humidity witch makes it feel hotter than it is so a lot of people where less clothing maybe they should say if you are working in the forge area bring a change of clothes and shoes
@bahamutdragon1754
@bahamutdragon1754 23 күн бұрын
@@andrewramsdale You missed the best part. That mask that employee is wearing is not designed to prevent resin fumes. Its just an empty cord with an open air outtake, you can see it if you pause at 11:32. Its not even an actual filter that he is wearing, that is a mask designed to push oxygen into low oxygen environments. The international standard for organic filters rated to stop resin fumes marks them as bright yellow. You'll notice there is no color band bands on the face mask.
@andrewramsdale
@andrewramsdale 23 күн бұрын
@@bahamutdragon1754 I think it’s more like the fire fighters style where it’s bringing the fresh air from the motor on his waist yes it’s not proper but for someone with a beard it works and matt said that what Lee was wearing was a mask that worked for what he was doing
@nathwhit3980
@nathwhit3980 23 күн бұрын
Do NOT 3D Print Miniature at Home... Unless you follow the safety procedures. Fumes are toxic. Act accordingly.
@markspooner2027
@markspooner2027 Ай бұрын
So I print at home. I use air purifiers in a ventilated area (my attached garage) and have a specially designed trash can (I made it out of a shiny bucket and a UV light). Rule #1: EVERYTHING GETS CURED.
@markspooner2027
@markspooner2027 Ай бұрын
Also, for context, I was a hazmat tech for a number of years and have worked in fiberglass factories as a safety inspector. Read, follow the MSDS, clean and cure any spills and cure any rags/towels you use and take the waste to the hazardous waste dump when you dispose of it.
@user-it7kg3pm4q
@user-it7kg3pm4q Ай бұрын
Except there will always be a thin layer of uncured resin on anything unless removed by solvents or detergents due to oxygen inhibition of the photopolymerization process.
@Vonbrow
@Vonbrow Ай бұрын
Won’t the UV ambient light eventual cure the resin?
@markspooner2027
@markspooner2027 Ай бұрын
@@user-it7kg3pm4q Yep! I use 99.9 IPA on rags to clean up spills and after curing I do a dunk and dry in IPA.
@markspooner2027
@markspooner2027 Ай бұрын
@@Vonbrow It should, but I have a dark garage so I make sure to do it myself.
@windsweptjoe442
@windsweptjoe442 Ай бұрын
I can just imagine the GW executives standing behind the camera "Yes, warn them about the dangers of 3D printing..." *fellas, I know resin is dangerous...my comment was a joke about GW not liking us 3d printing miniatures.*
@fatrat92
@fatrat92 28 күн бұрын
It's still valid.
@relem1
@relem1 27 күн бұрын
is valid? yes. But see how the narration is different between "bal bla but is till quite advisable, so in order to avoid, you could do this to print at home when it down to ventilation" and "[...]but is till quite advisable, if you want to take taht RISK. SO if you REALLY WANT TO PRINT AT HOME [...]" Eh? A mask. He wearing for a very good reason a respirator since: he is in a printign farm, he is in a very dense fume room even whit a proper ventilation under safety and risk management, and he is in a company. Again, resin is not a joke, but is not a gun pointed on forehead.
@chief1721
@chief1721 27 күн бұрын
Getting printed minis from professionels like these here is still a lot cheaper than GW product. and even the production methods GW uses can be achieved with the same quality yet cheaper in the UK. look at companies like victrix.
@Glitchoone
@Glitchoone 22 күн бұрын
Not all miniatures have anything to do with GW other companies made miniatures before GW even started sculpting
@windsweptjoe442
@windsweptjoe442 22 күн бұрын
@@Glitchoone Really? I thought GW was the only company on the planet that made miniatures?
@figureartout
@figureartout Ай бұрын
I 3d Print at home , I use a mask, gloves and have the window open , all my chemicals are stored in a locked cupboard. In the UK disposal of 3d cured resins is quite vague besides a small statement saying a small amount of hazardous waste down the sick is fine. ( i don't agree and instead cure and bin , rinse sanitation IPA) i think this video is great, thanks. Live alone with 1 dog who's not Allowed in the printing room when printing / cleaning
@temur72
@temur72 Ай бұрын
I have not gone into printing resin miniatures because of the toxic fumes. Note I am not afraid of chemicals, I work in a chemical lab testing agricultural pesticides. MWG set up is top notch, and expensive to ensure the workers safety
@thehungrylittlenihilist
@thehungrylittlenihilist Ай бұрын
This has been my feeling as well. I also work with lots of toxic chemicals but I have animals that I need to be concerned with. The only cat-proof room I have is the one I keep my geckos in, and I'm not going to subject either of them to the fumes.
@mitcho590
@mitcho590 Ай бұрын
Honest mwg is fearmongering and blowing everything up to scare people away from there profit margins. He is going to the extreme because of local laws to scare people.
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Ай бұрын
This is a sad response and MWG has exacerbated this.
@scottyboy6269
@scottyboy6269 Ай бұрын
Don't FDM print either
@ThePastryGeek
@ThePastryGeek Ай бұрын
@@scottyboy6269 Micro plastics!
@vineheart01
@vineheart01 29 күн бұрын
I print at home. The resin printer is actually in my bedroom, but it's in a ventilated tent that goes out the window. I don't smell anything, my air quality meter doesn't even budge when I use it. Post curing/cleaning I do in my garage, which isn't fully sealed from the outside anyway. I don't wear a mask when Iremove prints but I do intentionally keep my head out of the tent with the fan still going, since why stick your face in it when you don't have to. I also transport the unwashed minis to the garage in a container so I don't accidentally drip somewhere. I think this video is a bit too harsh sounding. Resin isn't some insanely deadly chemical that if you are even around can make you sick or worse. When I was in the military I was the hazmat custodian for my squadron, I know what hyper dangerous chemicals are. Resin is a step above cleaning chemicals, not something like sulfuric acid that even the vapors of it can hurt you almost immediately. I'm not saying resin isn't dangerous, far from it. I'm just saying people have been making videos like this lately basically pegging it as something so dangerous we probably shouldn't even be allowed to buy it without special licesnes. That, it is not.
@darthplageous5412
@darthplageous5412 27 күн бұрын
I'm going to diagree here a little. I've also received various levels of hazmat training for various chemicals. And frankly this video isn't for us. We both have an understanding of how to properly deal with hazardous materials. This is more aimed at the average person who wouldn't know or think about these things. You also mention that you print in your bedroom, and that you have a tent that vents outside. That's fine for you, but for the average person that should probably be avoided if possible. For one because of your training you know how to correctly set it, and you also said you had an air quality sensor. A lot of people aren't going to necessarily know how to correctly set it up or test for leaks, and most people probably wouldn't think about getting an air quality sensor. Without one someone could accidentally cause a leak and unknowingly breathe in fumes all night. When it comes down to it, yeah these chemicals arent that dangerous. They're a step or two above household cleaning supplies. But really how many people handle those incorrectly on a regular basis. Nothing involved here is super dangerous or requires anything too crazy to use safely. More than anything this video felt like hey this stuff might be more dangerous than the untrained person might realize, here are some things to think about and basic steps to take to be safe.
@vineheart01
@vineheart01 26 күн бұрын
@@darthplageous5412 agreed. I do know some people locally that initially didn't even treat it as dangerous as say Windex, so they even gripped the dripping in resin print with their bare hand. I in so many kind and less than kind words corrected him on that lol
@ByteMeMan
@ByteMeMan 24 күн бұрын
Same, I've had an air quality meter running when printing in my room (water washable resin) and it barely moves on any scale to the point where I was concerned it wasn't working, but then I saw the way it moved when I de-dusted my PC or bleached the toilet on the other side of the house.
@necroloid123
@necroloid123 Ай бұрын
First I ALWAYS put my solid waste in clear bags in the sun for at least 3 days to cure before disposal and When it come to the botles, same thing but I cut them in half so the UV can reach inside.
@hauntswargaming
@hauntswargaming Ай бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes 😉
@Kaylakaze
@Kaylakaze Ай бұрын
You could literally pour an entire bottle of resin into the drain or on the ground every single day for the rest of your life and you'd still do less ecological damage than a single factory or pig farm does in an hour.
@necroloid123
@necroloid123 Ай бұрын
@@Kaylakaze Maybe but every little bit helps. At least I am not a douche bag using that info as an excuse to unsafely dispose of their waste properly!!
@Kaylakaze
@Kaylakaze Ай бұрын
​@@necroloid123 No, you're just a sucker wasting their time and energy so they can imagine themselves as superior even though they're doing practically nothing.
@ThePastryGeek
@ThePastryGeek Ай бұрын
I cure all my solid waste before tossing it. That includes gloves, support material, paper towels, empty resin bottles, etc. It doesn’t take much time to do in a one square foot curing box. Dirty IPA gets saved up and carted to a local hazardous waste cleanup day. The printer enclosure is vented to the outside and sealed to be negative pressure relative to the room so no fumes leak out. The fan runs even when opening the enclosure during the brief times I’m swapping the print off the build plate as in a chemical hood.
@SovietSeething
@SovietSeething Ай бұрын
all of these things are fundamental safty practices when handling any chemicals, especially powerful cleaning agents and the like. It pains me how many people actually have to be told chemicals are dangerous.
@peope1976
@peope1976 18 күн бұрын
We are all made out of "chemicals".
@godareas
@godareas Ай бұрын
Main point is missing from this video - there is a difference of running 1 printer at home and 100 printers anywhere. The amount of fumes it produces. Mask and glasses negates all other issues. Buy containers that are closed, buy non-latex gloves. Have a separate room from your living room to print in.
@dipolartech
@dipolartech Ай бұрын
Yeah, I heard "I have 30 printers running" and I was like... yes my dude, you have a commercial business, if you had 30 woodworking machines (saws, sanders, planars, cnc) running at the same time you wouldn't have them in your home either.
@iraqiwalker1436
@iraqiwalker1436 Ай бұрын
He literally starts the video with mentioning that point. It doesn't change the veracity of what he's saying. Even with one printer, the fumes are an issue. Especially if you run it in a closed setup. At least I have a nice big window next to my desk to help ventilate things.
@SuperA7xman
@SuperA7xman Ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@JasonIdkau-pw8hi
@JasonIdkau-pw8hi Ай бұрын
@@iraqiwalker1436lol a window does nothing
@JasonIdkau-pw8hi
@JasonIdkau-pw8hi Ай бұрын
Yeah I print resin in the garage and use plant based resin.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this. The amount of people who put themselves in alarming situations because of mishandling potentially hazzardous materials or environments. Safety is key.
@codyvangalder3248
@codyvangalder3248 Ай бұрын
@BigRed40TECH the amount of people that overexagerate what a "harmful" situation could be considered is alarming.
@JustinBrown-gh9vv
@JustinBrown-gh9vv Ай бұрын
​@@codyvangalder3248 Copium activate! XD
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Ай бұрын
@@JustinBrown-gh9vv How is it copium? @ccodyvangalder3248 is right. This is a demented take on printing safety and the arguments here can apply to everyday household chemicals. If you believe the points here I hope you don't have bleach, mower/automotive fuel, oil, paints, dishwashing liquid, etc, in your house. THEY'RE HAZARDOUS!!!1!
@JustinBrown-gh9vv
@JustinBrown-gh9vv Ай бұрын
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Do you leave your cleaning chemicals open for long periods of time? Do you harden those materials and hold them in your hand? Bro, that stuff is bad for you. And with all due respect, arguing with people who don't want something in their house that you have in yours is not helping your case at all. No one will buy a resin printer just because you go off in a YT comment. But they will dislike your community even more.
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Ай бұрын
@@JustinBrown-gh9vv there is a huge difference between encouraging basic safety precautions and saying DO NOT 3D PRINT MINIATURES AT HOME, suggesting that resin printing is some ultra-toxic, ultra dangerous activity tantamount to handling nuclear fission. It's absurd and alarmist. This video is outright misinformation as it misrepresents the facts and frames it in a way that is detached from the reality of the fairly minimal dangers of resin printing.
@thomasrieber8722
@thomasrieber8722 Ай бұрын
Just an extra safety precaution for the miniwargaming folks, please urge your employees to wear proper close toes shoes and pants, not flip flops with exposed feet and shorts 11:23, when working in an environment with hazardous chemicals. As you had said in the video, when (not if) you spill resin everywhere, it is better to have it spill on your pants/shoes which you can remove, rather than your bare feet and legs. Otherwise, you have made good points on safety precautions for resin printing. I think it’s also important to point out that most of the 3d printing community is only running 1 printer intermittently and not 30+ printers 24/7 so the scale of “dangers” of resin printing are very different for the average hobby user.
@TRENCHESandTREADS
@TRENCHESandTREADS Ай бұрын
The resin isn't that hazardous lol. I've put my raw hand into a vat a few times over the years and it comes out fine, all you have to do is make sure you wash it off fully and completely sooner rather than later. The idea that getting a small spill on a bare leg is going to cause problems is a little bit alarmist tbh. You are correct though that what MWG is doing is *radically* different from the norm for most people. A room full of running printers is far different than a machine that runs for a 4 to 5 hours and then sits idle for a few days.
@thomasrieber8722
@thomasrieber8722 Ай бұрын
@@TRENCHESandTREADS I would hardly say that avoiding open toed shoes and shorts when working with potentially hazardous chemicals is “alarmist”, it’s basic lab safety procedures. And while I agree that resin is pretty far from the most toxic thing you can handle in a lab, it is still an acquired allergen and proper lab safety protocols should be followed.
@andrewarmstrong3098
@andrewarmstrong3098 Ай бұрын
@@TRENCHESandTREADS There is no way to know if you have a potentially lethal allergic reaction to the resin prior to getting exposed to it. Its likely not a common allergy but it is not something worth chancing due to a lack of basic safety procedures. It is far better to take proper safety precautions and avoid getting resin on you in the first place.
@TRENCHESandTREADS
@TRENCHESandTREADS Ай бұрын
@@andrewarmstrong3098 If you have a lethal allergic reaction to the resin the safety advice offered in this video *does nothing*, period. The only way someone with a lethal allergy should be working with resin at all is in a full blown hazmat suit, because when you pour resin, when you clean resin prints, or when the printer is printing small particles of it enters the air and can sit on surfaces for days. No amount of breathing apparatus is going to stop that from settling on skin and causing the reaction. So, like, it doesn't matter wearing shorts or not, if the advice in this video is followed then an extreme allergic reaction is going to occur regardless.
@Ranzarok
@Ranzarok Ай бұрын
I resin 3d print at home, for hmmm 2 years now. Taking precautions when working with chemicals seems to always be a good idea. I also clean floors with Pinesol, use bleach, strip metal minis with acetone. Lot's of dangerous chemicals out there. I can respect that you go above and beyond...you're also running, what, 20 resin printers 8 hours a day?
@franpschorr3646
@franpschorr3646 Ай бұрын
I do appreciate the video. I don’t think I’m going to stop, but you’ve convinced to at least upgrade my mask. I was simply using a n95 mask and nitrate gloves while my printer is set up in the spare bathroom. I’m going to buy a better mask next time I start working on a project.
@KevinoftheCosmos
@KevinoftheCosmos Ай бұрын
I have literally everything I need except space away from my house. Safety is honestly the only thing holding me back.
@TheDragonfriday
@TheDragonfriday Ай бұрын
Build a shed I would love to resin print if I make a shed for it
@KevinoftheCosmos
@KevinoftheCosmos Ай бұрын
I might build one or get a pre-fab when I move somewhere not in the heart of the city
@christopherdeale4543
@christopherdeale4543 Ай бұрын
I've been 3d printing for years at home with SLA. and this video was super helpful. I will keep printing, but the idea of the goggles and proper disposal were useful and I will be looking further into these! Thanks Matthew!
@benjaminzaugg1127
@benjaminzaugg1127 Ай бұрын
I'm amazed at how much you smell / fear the fumes. get an air purifier with HEPA filter or multiple + access to fresh air. I've worked in chem labs and I've worn less safety equipment than what you are sporting. More safety is rarely bad, unless it hinders you in the safe execution of your tasks, but feels a bit overkill
@AlainPilon
@AlainPilon Ай бұрын
I did extensive research regarding HEPA filters as part of setting up my woodshop and 99.99% of what is described and sold as HEPA filter does not do the job it is advertised for. They just manage to get the requirement under very specific conditions (ex: when installed right after opening the box) or when they have X hundred of hours of use (because the filter cells get clogged up). Good ventilation, as you said, is the best solution and unless you have laboratory level equipment, the only valid and effective solution. My father died due (in part) to inhaling too much wood dust, so I am very sensitive to the topic and in the same manners back in the days they never feared the wood dust, now people arent afraid of resin fumes.
@benjaminzaugg1127
@benjaminzaugg1127 Ай бұрын
@@AlainPilon right, all me advice would include the correct use of the equipment mentioned. So when I say HEPA filter, I mean a working one ^^
@AlainPilon
@AlainPilon Ай бұрын
@@benjaminzaugg1127 problem is that you can't get a "real" HEPA filter unless you work in a lab. All the filters sold as HEPA are HEPA certified, but only under specific conditions and these conditions are limited or hard to reproduce. Google "billpentz", he is the master on the topic, it is related to woodworking but totally transferable in this case. Super interesting, and scary.
@skywardsoul1178
@skywardsoul1178 20 күн бұрын
HEPA filters will do absolutely nothing to remove the fumes (VOCs). You need activated carbon / specific VOC filters. HEPA is for dust / particulates etc.
@WestinsChannel
@WestinsChannel 19 күн бұрын
Yeah, HEPA ain't going to do anything for chemical fumes, guys. The size of these fume molecules floating around? It's like trying to catch mosquitos with a chain link fence.
@orcd0rk
@orcd0rk 23 күн бұрын
As a mini sculptor I like to do my own test prints and when I do them I take as many precautions as i can. I wear a nitrile lab suit that buttons, a full face respirator with chemical filters (dated to make sure I replace them at proper intervals), the printer in its own enclosure/room with an exhaust line drawing the fumes outside. The one thing I do different from you is I cure my solids until they are solid/crunchy then dispose of them in my normal waste. It doesn't take long to run an extra UV cycle after my test prints are done and it SHOULD render the solid waste inert as long ad I lay them out properly in the chamber.
@bahamutdragon1754
@bahamutdragon1754 23 күн бұрын
"The resin is deadly you guys. Don't print it yourself, pay me to do it." "Ignore my employees in the video wearing no PPE whatsoever standing around in sandals and tshirts."
@languin12
@languin12 Ай бұрын
Fdm also produces VOC's and micro plastics that you can inhale. also carobon filaments are akin to asbestos in their damage to the lungs( you would have to do a lot of printing to get there) .
@jamesn2830
@jamesn2830 Ай бұрын
Thanks for making this. I feel this gets overlooked so much
@ljbrewer
@ljbrewer Ай бұрын
I've been holding off getting a printer because of the health concerns. Thank you for this informative video!
@meyroke
@meyroke Ай бұрын
the disposal part is quite important and not really talked about - we all know about masks and gloves but the waste is sadly "somebody else's problem" for many. great to actually talk about this
@guillaumemolter
@guillaumemolter Ай бұрын
Great video, thank you for covering all this. However Ricky wearing gloves, respirator and ....flip flops... is questionable in term of safety best practice :-)
@TheFallorn
@TheFallorn Ай бұрын
As to UV light, depending on the lamp that you have, it may emit UV-C, which is particularly dangerous but absorbed by the ozone layer so not a concern in our day to day lives.
@davidsickles4510
@davidsickles4510 Ай бұрын
I have 3d printed with resin for eseveral years and have found that everything you've mentioned are important thoughts to have when printing. Gloves, a mask, and where I print are always something I take into account. Usually I print in my garage which goes mostly unused and I feel pretty safe about that since the smell does not travel even into the basement where the garage is connected to. As for disposing of waste, I actually take the time to let my supports that I've used cure in the sun in order to feel okay with throwing them in the rubbish after. The harder part is the disposal of the liquids which I know I've generally tried to let the alcohol evaporate with sun exposure and the any leftover liquid resin I again leave out to cure in the sun. Those are just my thoughts on the topic, but I think k it's so great that even after years, you're wanting to make sure that people are educated on this topic!
@KimchiKommander
@KimchiKommander 25 күн бұрын
There are so many better ways of conveying your safety concerns than clickbait. You're better than this. Not only does it look bad as a seller, but you can 100% do this at home. Don't need to make it sound like a sudden freak-out if you're thinking of trying to resin print at home. As many pointed out already, your lab doesn't look much better than anyone's standard home set up like lol bro come on.
@allpapiodin
@allpapiodin 23 күн бұрын
Some other video ideas: "Do NOT Prime Your Miniatures at Home" "Do NOT Paint Your Models at Home" "Do NOT Remove Your Models From Sprue at Home" There is risk with everything. Most folks will take the time to read the "Do not do ____" warning labels on their products. People die every year to being in their closed garage with the car running. People do stupid things all the time. Alarmist videos may hold truth, but the over reacting to get clicks is just as cancerous as some of the chemicals we work with when printing and painting.
@Thetracker69
@Thetracker69 Ай бұрын
I probably mentioned this on the last video you made about 3d printing, but after seeing just how much ends up being required for Resin 3d printing, I basically shelfed that idea. I absolutely would not have been as safe as I needed to be with resin. That might not have been that big of an issue, cause when I considered getting into FDM printing, I came to the conclusion "Man, I'd just print a bunch of stuff and get burnt out by the need to paint it all... I'd better not get an FDM printer". So I'd probably have printed a bunch of stuff and then never touched it again.
@jowo__
@jowo__ Ай бұрын
Came to the same conclusion, I'm probably overthinking the process but the idea of potentially causing harm to my dogs and my girlfriend in our small apartment is enough for me to put the idea of 3d printing on pause until I get a bigger place at least.
@Naveication
@Naveication Ай бұрын
​@@jowo__it's specifically resin printing which is this dangerous. FDM printing with regular PLA is just fine. And modern FDM printers are good enough to print tabletop miniatures, too. The BambuLab A1 Mini is 200 bucks right now, prints hassle free, no health concerns as it's not a resin printer. Would recommend if the health concerns are the only thing putting you off from getting into 3D printing, just go for an FDM printer 🤷
@ripath
@ripath Ай бұрын
I work in a factory with polymer elastomers. If you are looking for a good mask I would only go with a full face respirator, specifically 3m's 6900 series. All of the components are replaceable, and it is comfortable enough to wear for hours on end. For gloves go get stripping gloves from your local paint store. Parts can go through a weakened glove before you realize that it has been compromised. We use Xylene to clean up resin spills. Toulol works better but the fumes are among the worst I have dealt with.
@stevec9315
@stevec9315 27 күн бұрын
1 printer vs your “forge” is a horrible comparison. That’s like taking 1 shot vs drinking bottles on bottles of alcohol
@HiraethVagabond
@HiraethVagabond 21 күн бұрын
I've been 3d printing for years, I don't wear a mask or protection or any kind and I'm doing just fine. In fact I've come to enjoy the fumes and have even been known to lick the resin off of my palms from time to time. Though, I have noticed that my extra finger has started to itch when I touch it.
@MadMax-el2el
@MadMax-el2el Ай бұрын
Oh I 3d print at home all the time...the printers are in a separate building, large hvac ventilation system installed.
@ScaleArtMiniatures
@ScaleArtMiniatures Ай бұрын
Thank you for providing such information to 3d printing community. I feel like a lot of people got into 3d printing because of a lot of youtube videos without knowing how to handle all of this properly. Good job on educating people on this subject.
@frankyuengling8074
@frankyuengling8074 Ай бұрын
I wasn't planning to get a resin printer because of space and cost but at super toxic resin I'm thinking I'm out. For my needs I'm more interested in fdm printer.
@zachariaravenheart
@zachariaravenheart Ай бұрын
I wish I did an FDM printer instead. Much less mess. The resin takes a lot of work. It's all I got right now, though. Plus, I know how to deal with it now. I just wish there were more videos out years ago when I started.
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Ай бұрын
@@frankyuengling8074 Resin is not super toxic and this video is hyperbolic. People need to get real about resin and resin printing this is no more harmful than other household chemicals and fumes. Good luck cleaning your shower or refuelling your car if you're worried about resin. Don't forget your respirator next time you mow.
@frankyuengling8074
@frankyuengling8074 Ай бұрын
@lawdpleasehelpmeno I know people with resin printers and they all have their work areas vented outside their homes. I would choose a fdm printer because of space in my hobby area. I would use it for terrain like most people. I have family that are asmatic and I wouldn't want them exposed to any fumes. You may not have any problems with using resin. I hope your very successful with your hobby.
@ZombieApocalypse09
@ZombieApocalypse09 26 күн бұрын
I would add on that a putty knife (which most people use to scrape stuff off the print plate) requires proper knife safety even if it isn't as sharp as a normal knife and it's primary purpose isn't cutting. Especially since you're handling toxic chemicals at the same time. I forgot this lesson when removing a print late one night. The knife slipped and my offhand was in its path. It caught me right where the thumb meets the rest of my palm and the fact that I was wearing nitrile gloves did not help at all. The putty knife went right through the gloves and put a decent cut in my hand that bled quite profusely. It was not a good moment and I am lucky there was no permanent damage to my hand. I have not forgotten to observe proper knife safety when removing prints since.
@artix548
@artix548 Ай бұрын
My grandparents' neighbor has an entire section of his house that's isolated from the rest of it, which he uses for resin printing. It has good ventilation and the smell doesn't get into the rest of the house.
@rupertcortes3980
@rupertcortes3980 4 күн бұрын
Do you have legal actions against illegal 3D printers who made illegal, and fake Warhammer products?
@EternalQuestion
@EternalQuestion 19 күн бұрын
I've been printing at home for a while, but my printer is in a garage with an extractor, on its own separate workbench, and I don't have any pets children in the house. I always use a respirator, gloves etc. and I've carefully designed my work flow so that the risk of spills and need to handle uncured resin is minimised. IMO having a washing solution that allows you to wash models before you remove them from the build plate is the way to go. Then you minimise the amount of excess resin that goes anywhere other than into your IPA. If I lived someone where this setup wasn't possible, then I wouldn't even consider resin printing at home.
@LordWiggle
@LordWiggle 14 күн бұрын
Hey, to reduce the toxic waste, why don't you cure it first before throwing it away? You can do this by laying the uncured resin and soaked towels in the sun or a big uv light. Drop a small uv light into the empty containers for a bit to cure the inside. Then throw it away like you do, to a chemical waste processing company. You will reduce the amount of harmful and toxic material. Also, be careful with storing IPA soaked cloth into the closed off metal drum. It will evaporate and create highly flammable gas inside. A tiny spark by opening it can do the trick. You can reuse much IPA by putting it into uv light for a while and filter the cured resin out of it. This also reduces waste. There are alternatives to IPA which are less harmful to breath like ResinAway. Nice to warn people about the dangers, sad to see this clickbait title though. It is good you are trying to reduce dangers and follow regulations, yet you are far from perfect yourself with your setup and protective gear. Think about the cloths you wear and tied up hair and hair covers. The floor should be so resin won't soak into it, can be clearly visible when spilled and can be cleaned off easily. Cable management. trays under the printer so resin won't drip off onto the racks and down to the floor when spilled. Yes, you do need uv protective goggles, even with the uv protective covers down. Don't place the empty bottles in plastic bags but in drip safe containers.
@climid
@climid Ай бұрын
I bought a vapor detector on amazon to moniror the fumes. I dont get significant reading when the pronter is running with the carbon filter and thenlid closed. I DO get significant boosts in vapor levels when the isopropnyl alchohol is used
@PureBrawler
@PureBrawler Ай бұрын
what detector did you buy? Been looking for one.
@Magick1an
@Magick1an 22 күн бұрын
This guy is comparing having a forge vs a well ventilated room with one printer.
@robutegurllyman9228
@robutegurllyman9228 8 күн бұрын
My basement is big. I have two printers next to an air purifier and two doors leading outside, I don't shock or wash minis in IPA. I spray them once or twice with IPA in a spray bottle, then I wash them in soapy water. I then take them off the build plate, put them in a ventilated box, and place it outside for a time (overnight usually). Then I bring them back in to be cured. I feel like this video may not apply to me but please correct me if I am wrong. EDIT: I also wear gloves and a mask when working with it.
@Ryu62Alpha
@Ryu62Alpha Ай бұрын
I pretty much do all this already, so this was really reassuring to watch The only thing is that I need a better dedicated space for my printer, but I have so many carbon filters around it hahaha I haven't resin printed anything new in about a year because I want to have a better set up soon
@terricon4
@terricon4 Ай бұрын
Tip, for your trash/supports disposal container, when you're done for the session, day, depending on your size of operations, take a small plug in UV light, the $20 types or so, and just hold that over the bin for a bit, turn much of your runny/soft UV waste in solid/soft instead, not perfect but definintely helps especially if you're just gonna trash it normally, like for many personal setups. In my case I also once done leave everything outside in the sun for a few days (translucent bags/storage tubs used for everything) before actually tossing. Same for water washable or washing fluids, leave them in outdoor containers that are translucent with lids off to evaporate away the liquid and cure any gunk left over. With my garage setup, if it's warm enough to print, it's warm/sunny enough to cure stuff outside like this.
@powerup3005
@powerup3005 23 күн бұрын
I hope this video is helpful to some people, a lot of this is purely common sense though. When I first ordered my Elegoo resin printer, they included a few pretty N95 masks, a bag of disposable nitrile gloves, and a straightforward, thorough, safety guidebook about why ventilation is important and how to dispose of resin. If you don't already know that rubbing alcohol is harmful to your skin and even worse if ingested I would implore you to take a lab safety course because I now worry about the baseline knowledge you have interacting with common household cleaning agents, and if you don't know the damage UV can do to your eyes and more I would also recommend you study up on the effects of the sun's UV radiation on human skin. Not only can it cause skin cancer, but it also just wears your skin out and makes you look older, discolored, etc. I agree that this information is important to know but honestly if you don't already know most of this outside of 3d printing I think you need to retake high school chemistry.
@Romne
@Romne 24 күн бұрын
And they said lead miniatures were bad.....plastic miniature says, "Hold my resin!!" 😂
@Hurtone
@Hurtone 17 күн бұрын
Great video. I have developed a severe allergy to either the resin fumes, but more likely the alcohol fumes. It manifests above my eye-lids and I get super dry, puffy and pain in that area. I now use a home build ventilated box, in a separate room, ventilating to the outside. I also wear a mask, gloves and full cover glasses. Despite this, I still feel some of the sting in my eyes sometimes.
@alexandercarter1228
@alexandercarter1228 Ай бұрын
This all the standard MSDS. Definitely good to go over for those weekend warriors. Glad to see you make a safety video
@sicariuscat
@sicariuscat Ай бұрын
I appreciate the safety focused perspective from an often careless online community, but the offhand statement at the end about filament printing might be a bit too broad. Here are some quick notes: - PLA is the ‘safest’ filament, but it can still emit particles that can irritate the respiratory system - PETG releases VOCs (same class of pollutant as 3d resin) - ABS and ASA release styrene, acrylonitrile, and VOCs - Carbon reenforced filaments have the potential to deposit carbon fiber splinters on contact I’d say that the bare minimum for FDM printing is ventilation of the space the printer occupies. It’s still not a toy or something you’d want in a 'lived in' area.
@wheelerm100
@wheelerm100 9 күн бұрын
Although not directly related but just something that you might want to consider. I became allergic to whatever chemicals are in nitril and vinyl gloves. I would have extreme hives where my hands would initially swell up, i would have hive patches over my torso and more worryingly hives on my face and head, so I would end up with a vey swollen head and face. After several trips to the hospital without much luck I came to the conclusion myself what as actually causing the hives. The simple solution for me was to stop using the nitril & vinyl gloves. This is just my experience but I felt it worth sharing to highlight that you may not be initially allergic to a chemical but can become allergic. Be sensible & safe.
@mylifeisajoke1
@mylifeisajoke1 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the safety issues seriously. I see way too many people being cavalier about their safety with 3D printing. Always respect the chemicals you're working with.
@EyeXombie
@EyeXombie Ай бұрын
I print at home with water washable Resin so I don't have to mess with the alcohol. I also live in a small apartment. I just put it next to a sliding door and have an exhaust fan blow it out side. Works good for me. As long as you're not standing over it purposely inhaling it you'll be fine. Oh and don't bath in it or use it as salad dressing.
@BjornKuma
@BjornKuma Ай бұрын
I really hope your treating that waste water as the industrial waste it is after washing minis in it. It's just as bad as the waste alcohol and absolutely cannot go down the drain.
@Kaylakaze
@Kaylakaze Ай бұрын
@@BjornKuma Bullshit. This whole "individuals need to go out of their way to protect the environment" thing is a load of BS designed so that the corporations can continue to pollute like crazy while making the idiot masses think they're actually doing something. Every single person that owns a resin printer in the US could put all their "industrial waste" down the sink for the rest of their lives and it would just be a tiny fraction of what most factories, refineries, farms, or other industrial systems pollute in a single day.
@tim-nolte
@tim-nolte Ай бұрын
How do your neighbors appreciate those fumes being blown out in their direction? I just don't get how people justify doing this when living in shared living spaces. It sure seems pretty inconsiderate of the people living around you.
@BjornKuma
@BjornKuma Ай бұрын
@@tim-nolte It's not like having a autobody shop with a spray booth next door. The total VOCs put out by a single home printer are only harmful in enclosed, unventilated spaces where they can accumulate. Home laserjet printers and furniture actually create higher local VOCs than most resins do, so if your going to call out one, don't forget the others, too.
@Kaylakaze
@Kaylakaze Ай бұрын
@@BjornKuma I can't believe my response was censored. This is ridiculous. Anyway, this whole "individuals need to go out of the way to protect the environment" thing is BS. It's entire purpose to to give the idiot masses a placebo while the corporations pollute with impunity. If every single person that owns a resin printer poured their "industrial waste" down the sink for the rest of their lives, it'd do less ecological damage than a single factory, refinery, most farms, or other industrial site does in a single day.
@dragonling748
@dragonling748 Ай бұрын
If anyone was 3D printing without knowing any of this, they are dumb. Its written on the label of the resin bottle next to the skull, in the manual, etc etc.
@hauntedhobbies
@hauntedhobbies Ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I preach the same things any time someone mentions printing, but I definitely don't have your reach. In particular, I appreciate you talking about the hazardous waste side of printing, that just never occurs to most people, especially with water washable, they think it's fine to flush down the sink.
@sniperlemming
@sniperlemming Ай бұрын
i bought a $1000 SLA Printing setup, put it all in my basement, printed once and then stopped because of the fumes. i have never been able to use it since, and all my resin expired (only like 2 big bottles and 2 small ones), and i have no other place to set it up. :-/ was a major waste of money imo.
@misatokitty76
@misatokitty76 6 күн бұрын
For me, it's getting a bit confusing. I picked up a resin printer a year ago, and washer/curer, but have yet to set either of them up because I don't really have much of a place to set them up at the moment. More than likely, it'll be in my room. I've asked multiple dealers (who 3d print at home in their spare time) about the safety aspect, and they've advised don't touch the resin, don't drink the resin, be slow, careful and methodical to prevent bumps or spillages, etc. Most suggest an extractor fan to a window, or a decent fan pointing at said window from the other side of the printer. Which sounds a bit unsafe, but... I'm not so worried about me. But I do have an 83 year old here who won't necessarily be around the printer, but is in the same house. From reading some of the comments, people are suggesting the resin is maybe a bit stronger than some cleaning products, which we have plenty of, so maybe I'll look at the extractor fan idea and see if I can make that work here. We do have a garage, and that would be my preference, but that's chocka already and dust just blows in from outside, and I don't think that's going to be good for any printing setup.
@channelsofash
@channelsofash 29 күн бұрын
People seem to have this odd idea that a 3D printer is like the replicators from Star Trek. Plus maybe for a super fast skilled painter it is worth it, but as long as it takes me to paint up stuff I might as well just buy a figure set once in a blue moon.
@trevorbonnell9289
@trevorbonnell9289 Ай бұрын
Thank you. I've long been considering purchasing a 3d printer. But I have 3 young sons at home -two have asthma- along with my asthmatic spouse. The safety issues and risks to them were the thing keeping me from actually buying one. This video is validating and very much appreciated for confirming my concerns.
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Ай бұрын
I have asthma and have been resin and FDM printing for years and it has never once exacerbated my asthma symptoms. I am sorry your unfounded fears were validated by this tripe. He even says in the video that when an inspection was carried out it was found the fumes were not significantly harmful 2:14. If you wear a mask you will be absolutely fine and your asthma will not worsen.
@trevorbonnell9289
@trevorbonnell9289 Ай бұрын
@@lawdpleasehelpmeno I appreciate your reply and insight. If it was just me, I wouldn't be overly concerned. I have breathed in a lot of worse stuff in my life! But I don't want to expose my young boys to any danger. Just a risk/reward thing for me, and it doesn't balance out yet for me.
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Ай бұрын
@@trevorbonnell9289 the risk is basically non existent unless you set the printer up in their bedroom and run it while they sleep
@matthiaszapf1171
@matthiaszapf1171 Ай бұрын
almost every new "item" comes with warning issues. every modern battery that is rechargable can explode/ ignite themselve. doing airbrush ? enamal/lacquer/iso alc /white spirit. all unhealthy to the max. even acryl colors are hazardous when they get in your breathing system. always be careful your safety should be your number 1 priority everything is dangerous and everything can kill you. be cautios, be safe. and rather ask some questions first before trying it out wildly.
@MonstaMunch101
@MonstaMunch101 22 күн бұрын
Just use a grow tent. They are made for tight environmental controls and high quality filtering of any air being exhausted out of them.
@TheHalo3fanz
@TheHalo3fanz Ай бұрын
Good points on safety, thanks for making a video on this. I learnt that portable eyewash solutions exist and that may be one of my future considerations I would just like to point out the inherent bias if you can call it that: A commercial entity telling potential "competitors" or clients not to replicate their homegrown success. I'm sure there's no ill intentions here but it is good for people to know this fact. Many hobbyists start in environments less than ideal for a good reason: Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I hope laws and regulations don't kick the ladder out from us, the home hobby community, that made these inventions popular
@Philtopy
@Philtopy Ай бұрын
To anybody thinking about resin printing, consider going for FDM instead. FDM printers have really reached a new peak in detail in the last year. if you use a 0.2mm nozzle, you reach amazing print qualities not seen before for that kind of printer. Yes it is still not on par with resin printers, and it will likely never be, but the level of detail is so good that an average tabletop player finds it even hard to spot that. You are sacrificing a little bit of detail you likely wont even notice that much for the advantages of: Cheap, non-toxic materials; non-toxic printing process; little to no issues with waste, cleaning or maintenance. To me thats an absolutely fine tradeoff. And think about that: If FDM printers have reached this stage in such a couple of years, they will likely improve even more in the coming years. I print minis with my Bambo A1 and after painting I find it hard to even spot the layers anymore. I am happy with that.
@doombringer4519
@doombringer4519 Ай бұрын
Please note that while FDM is far less toxic then resin, it is still toxic. FDM releases a ton of PM 2.5 particulates that should be vented outside as they negatively effect your indoor air quality
@BjornKuma
@BjornKuma Ай бұрын
@@doombringer4519 Seconded. It's not actually that much better in an enclosed space.
@Philtopy
@Philtopy Ай бұрын
@@doombringer4519 yes you are correct. A good ventilated area should always be the place to put anything doing that kind of work. but if you ventilate your room with an open window, it should be fine, right?
@doombringer4519
@doombringer4519 Ай бұрын
@@Philtopy I would be shocked if that was enough. You need active ventilation
@Slouworker
@Slouworker Ай бұрын
Fdm has nothing in resin if you care about detail
@nimric3348
@nimric3348 20 күн бұрын
The tent method vented out the window is really nice keeps the funes vary containing when your not actively worked with it.
@akantor0811
@akantor0811 22 күн бұрын
The same warnings are on paints used to paint models and any aresol spray.... a simple air filter and gloves is more than adequate
@tomasv8732
@tomasv8732 Ай бұрын
Honestly, this is a bit hyperbolic and alarmist. I print at home, in a separate room, my ventilation is an open window. I have a tiny filter that comes with the printer installed and a voc monitor. There is no smell in the house while printing, and barely any vocs produced. When washing the miniatures in alcohol, that's when the vocs and smell goes high, you put a mask on, blast the window fully open, it is gone in a minute - back to standard levels. Have a separate room, an open window, a mask and just don't drink the resin, you'll be fine.
@TRENCHESandTREADS
@TRENCHESandTREADS Ай бұрын
This, it's getting a little frustrating just how alarmist people are about resin printing in general. Like, come on people, you breathe in worse things living in a big city then printing the occasional resin miniatures. It's not like people are huffing and/or drinking the stuff.
@bmoney599
@bmoney599 Ай бұрын
I was gonna say this i do it in my basement and it has a door that separates it from the main house it never smells in the house even if I run it none stop for several batches
@AdamStephens
@AdamStephens Ай бұрын
Same here. Honestly, this IS alarmist. Resin is no more dangerous to work with than any other garage chemical that you may have. Verathanes, oils, car related materials... Use your heads, be smart about working with it, and remember that this is all about scale. What they are talking about here, and showing, is really at the retail side of things. What you are going to do in your garage is many times smaller. 🙄
@tim-nolte
@tim-nolte Ай бұрын
​@@AdamStephensit's not all alarmist, there are many other studies that show the harm. If you are alone you do you, but if you have pets and people near this stuff it's dangerous. What's better being overly cautious and having no risk or being lax and finding out later that you shortened your or your families life spans because you wrote it all off. Also, just because there are other dangers that may be equally as bad doesn't make resin less bad.
@tomasv8732
@tomasv8732 Ай бұрын
@@tim-nolte Let's say you are an avid hobbyist and you paint one squad a week. You will be printing for approx 2-5 hours weekly, washing and curing once or twice. How is that putting anyones life in danger? the exposures we are talking here are minimal, unless you sniff drink or put it in your eyes, you are good with gloves, mask and an open window.
@joshuabrowncrow
@joshuabrowncrow Ай бұрын
Good presentation. Realizations about the liquid and water waste issues were why I decided not to go with resin printing, though we will get a heated filament 3D printer…in the detached garage.
@jonathancrider533
@jonathancrider533 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. Very helpful reminders. Most of what you said is why I haven't jumped in to 3D printing. I also think that your point about disposal should probably be #2 on your list.
@evileyeball
@evileyeball Ай бұрын
This is why the room where the Printer my wife has is in has a lock on it, Our son (5) knows that that room is off limits to him and when the room is not in use the door stays locked and even when it is in use printing it stays locked unless one of us is inside the room actively using it. The printer itself vents to the outside and is sealed in a tent and safey precautions are in place at all times when the printer is in use. So far Only my wife (who bought the printer) has used it and for the few prints I have made I have had her do the printing portion and I only did the design portion. The layout of our house keeps the printing close enough to the other areas to be easily usable but far enough to be safe.
@GameplayExperience
@GameplayExperience Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for that i was considering to buy one 3d printing to myself! But i do not have conditions to have the necessary ventilation! Watching your video make change my mind!
@RealGyouza
@RealGyouza Ай бұрын
I had my printer and stuff for over a year before I started using it. Friend of a friend wanted to get rid of theirs and lived in an apartment. But I wanted an enclosure and fan. Now it lives on the far side of my garage venting straight outside and generally also open the door a bit when printing. But winter is coming and I may need a heating solution
@eldoriath1
@eldoriath1 Ай бұрын
I went into 3D printing as well before fully knowing all you need to be aware of, but at least aware of breathing and hand protection. Got my setup in a small storage room that connects to my garage, which then goes to the laundry room, then hallway and then rest of the house. But I also have the hobby room for playing board games next to the garage area. I've installed ventilation to suck the air out of the storage room, and that room isn't connected to the ventilation of the house. I've also tried to seal up the door to the garage a bit more, and sealed up the door from the garage to the rest of the house. Partly due to heating, partly due to increase the probability that air only flows out from the room and not into the garage to begin with.
@Grognard6Actual
@Grognard6Actual Ай бұрын
Outstanding video! 👍 Question: I've purchased 3d printed items online. Some have been soft or sticky. Should I leave them in the sun? 🤔
@InTheRedShirt
@InTheRedShirt Ай бұрын
If it's sticky it means it wasn't properly washed. Resin curing is inhibited by oxygen, so at this point you'll never fully cure that resin. Wash with IPA and an old toothbrush, wearing gloves. Do so in a bucket and not your sink. As Matt said, resin can't and shouldn't go in the drain. But a good wash /should/ help. Then evaporate the liquid.
@Grognard6Actual
@Grognard6Actual Ай бұрын
@@InTheRedShirt Thanks! 👍
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Ай бұрын
@@Grognard6Actual Since you believe the video you are now going to die due to touching the sticky, uncured resin.
@connorjensen9699
@connorjensen9699 10 күн бұрын
the big thing that I find very concerning is that I have seen some tests that indicate that the activated carbon filters we all use may not actually effectively remove the VOCs from the fumes. They filter out the smell well enough, but the actually toxic part may not be taken care of.
@thetoxictoaster7062
@thetoxictoaster7062 25 күн бұрын
I print at home, don’t have access to a well vented room but I have 2 hepa hair purifiers running when printing. Also used water washable resin so didn’t need alcohol. And the only time it really left a smell was after a print when you open the case, it wasn’t too strong but still wore mask and gloves, ended up stopping when I got a cat though.
@supfreshitsourturnbaby
@supfreshitsourturnbaby Ай бұрын
The washing/curing step is actually when my air quality meters voc readings spike up.
@joelaurie2397
@joelaurie2397 Ай бұрын
I agree with this. It is useful to note, you should use your curing lamp to fully cure the supports after removing them. That way, you can bin them safely
@FMHikari
@FMHikari 18 күн бұрын
Glad i bought a filament one. Might not be as detailed, but i enjoy having it by my side.
@TheM3MoRi3z
@TheM3MoRi3z Ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this video! I have very little knowledge about 3D printing and it was always a curiosity I thought about trying out some way down the line. Very informative and helpful for safety awareness plus environmental impact awareness too!
@Trevante32
@Trevante32 Ай бұрын
i wish there were companies (and if there are i would love links) that let you send them your stl files you own and have them print it for your cause there are a bunch of stls i would love to get printed but no one prints the models. But i dont have any safe place to get my own 3d Printer.
@sinisterplank3113
@sinisterplank3113 Ай бұрын
The tip about the eyewear and eyewash is a huge one, everyone should get one of those home-kits. Even if you're not 3d printing, in this hobby we often handle all sorts of bad stuff, even if you're just sanding and cleaning a resin model kit, or stripping paint off an old miniature, you can get nasty chemicals splashed into your eyes, and those seconds always matter for reducing the risk of permanent injury.
@temur72
@temur72 Ай бұрын
You have a nice safe set up for 3d printing. Fume hood and powered air purifier respirator
@tylerttinsley
@tylerttinsley Ай бұрын
Yep! I always tell people resin printing requires a small hazardous chemical lab. It’s amazing how much having my own printer has stopped my impulse purchasing of miniatures from FOMO so it’s probably been worth it but I have the situation to do it mostly proper. I built a vented cabinet to house all my print workspace and still wear all the PPE.
@salperez50
@salperez50 24 күн бұрын
I understand this video was made with good intentions but there is a difference between running 1 3D printer and a hundred as someone else stated. It also doesn't help that You sell 3D Prints .It just makes you look bad No matter what the intentions were.
@andrewrockwell1282
@andrewrockwell1282 Ай бұрын
Thank you. This is important information for the community. I was researching getting a resin printer a few months ago until i watched your video explaining the process and all the hazards and venting needed. I am just going to purchase miniatures from others. All i want to do is paint and play.
@lawdpleasehelpmeno
@lawdpleasehelpmeno Ай бұрын
I am sad to hear your were dissuaded from resin printing by this alarmist video. It is a wonderful hobby and if proper precautions are followed it is perfectly safe.
@joebomberger
@joebomberger Ай бұрын
I have an FDM printer at home but with the size of my house, my pet, and the hazardous waste that resin printing produces I do not ever want to use a resin printer. I only need it for props, household decorations, and bases anyway. I have tried printing miniatures on it (with a standard nozzle, not a tiny one) and as long as the model is somewhat heroic in scale the prints turn out pretty well!
@zachhughes9149
@zachhughes9149 Ай бұрын
I use adenna hero gloves. They are latex and they are superior to every other glove I’ve tried for handling this stuff. They are 14 mil 12” long and slightly textured. According to everything I read, the alcohol and resin go through neoprene and nitrile nearly just as fast as latex, so what really matters is the thickness. My skin never itches or burns like it occasionally would using other gloves and they’ve never just torn apart or had holes mysteriously appear while being worn.
@frogfairy1163
@frogfairy1163 19 күн бұрын
Not even thinking about ever 3d printing myself for all the reasons in this video. I have a appartement with no dedicated safe place to put it, let alone ventilate well. Small kid walking around, pets and I have allergic reactions to uncured resin (which kinda gives me second degree chemical burns with skin contact. And the fumes alone are enough. I used pourable AB resin once with all safety in place. Was not enough. And the reaction is not instant... takes over a day to really show fully... so no timely warning either. So gave it all away and decided to stay away from any uncured resin and it's components. Once cured it is totally fine for me though.
@ernstbergerbrent
@ernstbergerbrent Ай бұрын
I knew someone who worked with fiberglass. The shop had to have an acetone solution for the eye wash station specifically for the resin they used.
@HuntingHeresy
@HuntingHeresy Ай бұрын
I have two Saturn 3 Ultra in my utility room. There are no VOCs or other harmful fumes I've seen on my air quality sensor with Elegoo ABS-Like 2.0. Been printing since 2020. My skin has come into contact with resin a few times, but I quickly cleaned it up with IPA and water. Haven't developed any allergies from handling processed minis or being around the resin yet, but I make sure to limit my exposure and handle everything very carefully to minimize mess. Helps to have a big stable work bench with silicone mats to move from printer to wash to cure. It's the IPA cleaning that sees a spike on the VOC sensor but it's still not in the red. Easy solution is to set up a fan in the window or do your IPA cleaning elsewhere. I've heard water-washable resin reeks so I don't bother with that. I'm surprised you don't have an air quality sensor in your lab, or maybe you didn't show it. I would NOT recommend putting IPA in a spray bottle. Last thing you want is atomized IPA in the air to get in your eyes, mouth, nose, or lungs.
@StripesW
@StripesW Ай бұрын
Wait, you cleaned your skin with IPA? Dude, just stop whatever you are doing.
@HuntingHeresy
@HuntingHeresy Ай бұрын
@@StripesWIPA on your hands isn’t going to kill you. Best way to get regular resin off your hands quickly when you spill a vat and it makes a huge mess. Then you immediately use soap and water. It’s not like I dunked my hands in IPA and just called it a day.
@frontiervirtcharter
@frontiervirtcharter 20 күн бұрын
@@StripesW Hopefully no home brewers get themselves into a panic over the batch of India Pale Ale they just made.😜 On a more serious note, isopropyl is what the doctor uses to sterilize your skin before injections and surgeries.
@ThatGuyKazz
@ThatGuyKazz Ай бұрын
I do print at home. I have my printer in a well ventilated room with the door closed and have air purifiers as well as a fan to that right behind my printer pointed out a window that I open when printing. I also have rubber mats on all my work spaces while cleaning. My wash station has an air tight seal on it. I always wear gloves and a quality face mask though not a full blown respirator because I am never doing it for a long enough period of time to really be too worried about fumes. I also post cure everything. I will cut off the supports before curing then put all the material including supports into my UV oven before throwing the supports away. For the uncured resin in the wash station I will usually let it settle out for a few days after a print (again in an airtight container) and the put the whole container outside in the sun for a few hours which will cause all the resin to cure into a spongy block which then gets removed from the vat and left in the suns for another couple hours until dry and hard. Also nothing gets left on the print bed for more than 20 minutes after it's finished printing. I also make sure before I take anything off the print bed that anything I will need to do post processing is set out and ready to go before even take the bed out of the printer so once I touch the bed I don't need to open anything or look through drawers or whatever and I have a place for everything to live while the post processing is being done. Basically make sure every step is planned out before I take the first step including emptying the excess resin in the vat back into the bottle. Been doing it a few years now and never had a spill or any other problem.
@borkthebasher
@borkthebasher Ай бұрын
3d print at home just take sensible precautions and understand the risks. Ive been running a print shop from home for 3 years and had zero issues or ill effects. Thats not to say im immune or it cant happen in the future, just my experience so far. If you are a business that employs people the law states you follow specific rules that maximises staff safety. As in your case you are quite clearly following those rules. At home you just need to take sensible precautions. Keep it away from kids n animals. Make sure its vented. Protect from spills and wear PPE. You dont need to go nuts its not toxic waste were dealing with. At worst its a mild skin irritant and COULD inflame respiratory issues if you have any. Dont let this put you off. 3d printing changed my hobby life and my career since i do it for a living now. Its awesome and it never gets old how i can pull dope minis out of a pool of goop. At the end of the day just take it seriously and take sensible precautions. Its not rocket science and its not some deadly substance (unless you drink the stuff) like as not youre harming your body way more if you smoke, take drugs, drink or have a bad diet.
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord Ай бұрын
Literally is toxic waste when you're disposing of it.
@StripesW
@StripesW Ай бұрын
You seem to misunderstand the danger. Its like saying you have been smoking for 3 years and feel fine.
@arindryn
@arindryn 25 күн бұрын
very informative video. in my heated shed it goes with a reclaimed blower from old furnace
@GregAtlas
@GregAtlas Ай бұрын
Another reason for the full face mask is to protect the eyes. I find on my extremely large prints that the fumes can get overwhelming for the eyes. Lots of burning and tearing up. Not a fun time. The chemical goggles you mentioned are probably good enough, but having the full face mask from the beginning is probably better in general I would guess. I don't notice it nearly as much on smaller prints, but when I'm running my Mega 8k pretty much at max capacity, it is a huge problem I have to be concerned about. I've also been considering getting insemination gloves that go up to the shoulder since my prints are large enough where I'm reaching elbow deep to remove supports. Haven't tried yet though, and given my glove size is typically xl or xxl I don't even know if they'd have any that would work for me. If they do work, they would probably be an affordable alternative to a lot of the nitrile options that go to the elbow.
@GairlochMtn
@GairlochMtn Ай бұрын
I really appreciate you guys making this video. I used to make big mistakes at home when I started resin 3d printing. I try to voice safety as much as possible now and you guys doing it will reach a lot of people.
@Balor22
@Balor22 Ай бұрын
Used to have a room with good ventilation, but now in my new place I don't. I did two prints before I realized how bad the ventilation is. I haven't printed for two years now. I miss it, and hopefully will be moving into a place with a better work station.
@alBoomer19
@alBoomer19 Ай бұрын
This is a great video! Thanks for sharing the precautions you take. Been thinking about a resin printer at home and this definitely is important to keep in mind
@ghosty227
@ghosty227 27 күн бұрын
I'm lucky enough to have a detached garage where I keep my printer imprisoned. You're right about temperature regulation though, it's tricky in the colder months.
@redcorsair14
@redcorsair14 Ай бұрын
I print in my dining room but do the cleaning in the garage. I am also not printing every day or even every week. I Pour the resin in the vat, lower the lid, it prints, I pop them off the plate lower the lid and bring the prints outside to a workbench in the garage for clean and curing so very few fumes now, especially since I often will print and wont get back to it until a day or two later. Originally I did not wear gloves but it started causing blistering on the tops of my fingers over time so I wear gloves for the entire process now. I use a fingernail curing station for my curing. Obviously I am not industrial printing like you.
@eoghanpage576
@eoghanpage576 Ай бұрын
I do 3D print at home I have a tent with an extractor (purchased on Amazon) in a spare bedroom I keep all my resin bottles and un cured prints as well as the printer in. I also over cure all of my supports and failed prints before disposing of them. As I use water washable resin I don't have the IPA to worry about I will have to keep the cats out of the room while I am printing though
@Weaver_Games
@Weaver_Games Ай бұрын
I think 3D printing being pushed as a fun hobby you can just do at your house is a big problem. You CAN do it at home safely, but you need to basically have a sealed off and ventilated room with air filtration. I've put a lot of thought into how I want to get into it and I decided to take my cold cellar which is concrete on all sides with outdoor ventilation, then buy a grow tent for the printer and heat that with it in it and vent both the tent then the entire room outside with an in-line fan behind a filter. The venting system is complicated and honestly the peripherals for all this will cost more than the printer lol. I just got done sealing any potential cracks to the cold cellar and also re-weatherstripping the door. My wife and I are planning on kids soon, I don't want any risk at all. If it turns out none of that works I'll just build a bunkie in the backyard.
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