FULL COLOUR RESIN PRINTING!!! - StrataSys J55 Impressions

[@FauxHammer]

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[@peterbelanger4094]

It's depressing to see stuff one can never afford. Rich kids rubbing their fancy toys in our faces. why even bother telling us about it?

[@YOBAMUSTDIE]

Painting a still needed over this printing but painting would be easier when base is already colored.

[@3picdermis223]

Finally "can't print, yellow is empty" is coming to the 3d printing world.

[@patrickroland2215]

lmao. I was just thinking this!

[@marcusrouls7472]

🤣

[@michami135]

But my model's all black, why do I need yellow?? Seriously though, if this was just one solid color plus support, I'd pay good money for this. IF the resin is strong, and not brittle like the cheap resins. I can see this tech getting shrunk in the near future.

[@nathanthompson3251]

​@@michami135Stratasys has a resin called draft grey that prints in monotone color with support. There's multiple black resins too if that's what you need.

[@peterrichards1989]

@@michami135 They have a mono version of the printer, it's about 60% of the cost of the colour one.

[@gregthorne4292]

Once Epson gets a hold of this technology, the printers will only be $1000, but each media cartridge will require you to take out a second mortgage.

[@FauxHammer]

Hahahaha

[@fursphere2]

I was thinking HP and their evil ink cartridges. But ya, same idea. The media cost is going to be horrible

[@grinningtiki220]

I have photos from my smallinone that have been pinned to a corkboard for over 8 years now and and have not faded unlike the ones printed with a Canon printer. Epson is worth the price.

[@JMcMillen]

@@fursphere2 Or Samsung and the constant need to change consumables, even when they don't need to be changed yet.

[@mil3k]

​@@JMcMillenSamsung printers division been acquired by HP in late 2017.

[@KcCake]

Cant wait for a decade to pass so we can pick a chinese knock off for $200

[@thimiraamaratunga7794]

a decade? No. 2 years max for a knockoff. A reliable one however....

[@KcCake]

@@thimiraamaratunga7794 keyword: $200. Id be very surprised if they coupd get a knockoff under 1k in half a decade

[@Mc-Derpulous]

Bamboo labs new 3d printing technology!!

[@ge2719]

And knock-off cartridges that don't cost the price of the entire printer.... When he said that I got worried this was going to copy paper printers in more ways than the print head. Overpriced cartridges that are just a plastic bottle of resin would be taking the piss

[@dtibor5903]

​@@thimiraamaratunga7794nah there is a japanese company named Mimaki doing larger and much more impressive full color 3d printers. These can print transparent parts too unlike Stratasys printers

[@Alphachanel]

We've had these in at work for a quote, price? £85K for the full colour and £45K for the mono. I still have the promo booklet they gave us.The results really are something else though, not only multicolour (and truly transparent in the same print) but multi-material (mixing hard resin and soft rubber like material) in one hit, very, very impressive.

[@FauxHammer]

So Crazy isn't it! Technology is incredible now!

[@swaslaukinonome]

Thanks for the review and info. Honestly I was expecting the price to be even higher, given the high production and ease of use, which save the pros money over time on par with the sticker price. My first thought is I wonder if some local dental production companies might be willing to rent out some time off-hours so I could possibly get to use the machine, because it looks awesome but I can't even afford a full batch of the resins lol

[@AndrewAHayes]

I worked at an engineering company that got the first laser resin printers back in the late '80s and then we got some FDM printers, it was truly living in the future! although I still did not have my flying car that was promised in the '50s LOL, and then I walked in one day and saw the DIY RepRap FDM printer that one of my colleagues had built, I ordered my kit the same day! I never envisaged having my own 3D printer, they were ridiculously expensive to buy and the consumables were very expensive also.

[@elchavode6479]

This technology has been out for a a long time it just not at consumer level 3d printing.

[@peterpeter5666]

@@FauxHammer i want one! anybody need a kidney?

[@thatHARVguy]

Who remembers custom color 3D prints of your WoW characters from Figure Prints? They were done like an inkjet printer, a colored powder layer at a time. Now we have it in resin. *Sweet.*

[@FauxHammer]

I don’t remember them. Wish I did

[@MagisterMagnificum]

I remember them, and was damn near to ordering one of my main as a keepsake, but it ended up being prohibitively expensive with shipping and VAT...

[@simonschneider5913]

zcorp had these first, with HP inkjets in the usual color scheme and a white powder.

[@nurpiet]

@@MagisterMagnificum well time to do it now then

[@SlowRkers]

Can't wait to see Elegoo make their own version of this that cost less then $500, man what time to live in. even without color, the fact that you can resin print something and touch it without gloves and such is a big game changer.

[@linkmaxwell]

Removing the potential chemical hazards for the user is going to be resin's biggest game changer - I would love to have a resin printer at home but my small condo can't safely have the VOCs of industrial resin floating in the air.

[@dtibor5903]

The resin is still resin, so you have to take some precautions. But, yeah, amazing how the print is fully cured during printing.

[@olti6845]

Bruh i say 5 years and we got the 500 dollar elegoo version. I love it 😂😂

[@xopasstheaux6617]

@@linkmaxwell I've got one in my bedroom, have it in a grow tent with air exhaust out the window. Dyson air purifier running and can't even smell it

[@oliversmith-n6h]

👋🏼former ten-year stratasys employee here. The J55 was a cool redesign of their polyjet platform (took years to figure out the rotating build tray), but sadly the BOM of material jetting systems like the J55 are seriously expensive, and will never drop to a point where consumers could afford it. I have a tonne of things I could say, including the market size/attractiveness of the miniatures market for a system like this, as well as the colour gamut ranges, model stability, pros and cons etc.

[@oliversmith-n6h]

But yes it is cool, and these systems are a staple in the prototyping market. I wouldn’t be surprised if GW has one in the model design dept to do quick, colour models for rapid concept designs and colour blocking. Also the colour version of this is between £80-£100k depending on your region.

[@lilietto1]

​@@oliversmith-n6h And do you have a professional opinion about the Mimaki or 3dsystem ones ?

[@oliversmith-n6h]

@@lilietto1good question. So the 3DS material jetting systems had the upper hand for service bureaus because their support material (material jetted parts are encased in a jelly like material) was washable in water, whereas (until recently) polyjet support required a caustic solution bath to remove support. I’ve worked with both and 3DS was easier, but SSYS modern systems like the J55 has water soluble and it’s just as easy, and non-toxic. Mimaki’s printers were always a side project of the muchhhh larger mimaki 2D printing company. In fact I was told by a source a few years back it was destined to be closed down due to lack of growth. However, because Mimaki is a huge 2D printing company, Mimakis 3D printers had a superior colour gamut with more rich colours than stratayss polyjet (this is from internal ssys research for their flagship colour printers) however the advantage of polyjet over mimaki (aside from knowing stratasys are sure to be around after you invest in their equipment) is you get more dimensionally accurate parts.

[@TTTray13467]

Just wait to creality gets a hold of it 😂

[@lilietto1]

@@oliversmith-n6h thank you for your interesting insight !

[@BumblebeeFern]

Everyone start selling off your family heirlooms 😆

[@FauxHammer]

Most would get a Mortgage before one of these!

[@Desmo904]

Fixed it for you. Everyone start selling off your family -heirlooms- 🤣😆

[@BumblebeeFern]

@@Desmo904 🤣🤣 I would certainly have more to spend on printers if it were not for the family of 7😂

[@BumblebeeFern]

@@FauxHammer I went to their site to see how much they were and started wondering how many people were chatting them during your video and asking what the true price was😂 i’m sure they got an influx of inquiries during your premier.

[@waza987]

Yes or just wait 10-20 years and they will be available as cheap as regular 3D printers now, and probably of better quality too.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Insane. Guess it's years away from using this at home, but I could see waves of Kickstarters of cool new tabletop and miniature board games with fully painted/printed models in the meantime.

[@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov]

2.5 decades at least, because this thing is patented all-around.

[@igorchak48]

@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov patent US6259962B1 expired in 2019.

[@FauxHammer]

Yep. I can see that too. It’s no thereat to painters but a viable option for paint haters

[@FauxHammer]

I’m sure similar technology exists

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov Not really sure that timeline will be correct as the patents can only cover relatively specific methods, so the same concepts should be approachable from other routes. The only question is does anybody or more realistically any group of folks in the creative, chemistry and engineering community have the interest, the time and funding to do the RND to make the same sort of concept work in a sufficiently different way it doesn't infringe the patent. (It could end up being a more consumer consumer goods oriented manufacturer, but they tend to wait for the technologies to be developed to a point before mass producing their RepRap/Prusua clone.

[@hotdoglukn4abun701]

I just want my resin printer to have supports like this.. that clean-up is amazing.

[@ghewitt94]

It is truly an amazing quantum leap forward on so many fronts at once. The support process is as outstanding as the colouring.

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed!

[@PrintedRealmsLLC]

Quantum leap? No. This is just a reimplementation of various other 3d printing tech that we already had.

[@HaydnVH]

I imagine this could create a whole new medium of miniature painting; doing your "painting" digitally in Blender or some other 3D tool and then printing the colored mini.

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah agreed!

[@emmamarx9284]

Even a “paint by numbers” type deal to market toward new hobbyists to get into painting would be cool. Just washed out colors and a guide to follow along too would be really fun and make it easier to bring new people into the hobby.

[@TheKrakenfist]

If the surface is nice and smooth, or if they can get it to be in the future, this would be a dream. I don't care about the models being pre-colored, but a miniature with ZERO cleanup? Take. My. Money.

[@jonathansilberberg8933]

The surface finish is actually very smooth; this is especially apparent on non-colored models. The exact texture depends on whether or not the model is printed with a glossy or matte finish. What may appear in the video as a rough surface is just the resolution of the print head on particularly small models.

[@Drestlin]

@@jonathansilberberg8933 i'd like to see more prints of small detailed stuff. the coloured stuff looks kinda rough and i wouldn't use it as "a painted miniature". I wonder how locked the technology is, and if we'll have to wait 20 years like previously to get it in the consumer market at consumer prices and not at 50k per machine

[@countcroak2640]

Really looking forward to the day when home 3D printing has this easy of a time cleaning up prints. Thanks for sharing such cool tech!

[@FauxHammer]

Same

[@lostartsstudios1679]

All the meta chasers going to love this. An entire ready made army please, whatever is hot this week!

[@FauxHammer]

Yep!

[@HenrySavinon]

It’s not very cost effective and it’s patented so while it’s cool, I don’t see it taking off anytime soon.

[@hargert]

@@HenrySavinon Many of the core patents are already done. I am hoping we will see this take off in the home/prosumer space in the next year or two. It will not be a slick as the 100k printers but neither were the first FDM or resin printers for home and look what we have now.

[@ccgear4367]

@@HenrySavinon It's not like 3D printing bros have ever cared about respecting intellectual property.

[@ArtisOpus]

Great video dude, I think you missed something though: Pre-Basecoated Pre-Built minis. There's entire countries adapting gundams etc, enhancing pre painted figures, it already exists, and is a loved hobby. Are we there? Wash and highlight and good to go in 1/3 of the time. Interested on people's thoughts!

[@FauxHammer]

Oh, that’s a fantastic point!!!! Yeah. I think people would love that… agreed though. Would love to hear more people’s thoughts on this?

[@dvc1867]

I guess you'd need a resin that doesn't need to be primed?

[@MrOrionpax]

I think everyone can admit that miniatures are the major driving force of making 3d printers better and better

[@shamancredible8632]

I guess all the practical engineering applications pale in comparison to printing boobies. Come to think of it, I almost agree

[@vulpinemachine]

not as big as you'd think. honestly it's the medical community. When they realized it wasn't a gimmick and they could actually do stuff with it... the amount of money they've got blows us mini folks OUT OF THE WATER by such a huge margin there's not even a sliver of a comparison.

[@johnd-m5o]

and for diy peeps

[@MrOrionpax]

@@vulpinemachine At first because thats all that could afford it. now . My point still stands true. you think they care what colour the prints are?

[@vulpinemachine]

@@MrOrionpax since aesthetics is a major part of the medical profession, I'd say DEFINITELY. Not in terms of beauty of course, but in terms of having color coded devices ready to go with no need for painting or tagging? Yeah huge demand for that!!

[@Colorcrayons]

Hey Fauxhammer, 0:22 it sounds like a sales pitch, because it IS a sales pitch. For better or worse that is your brand. Best to just cuddle up to the shilling and be honest about it instead of insulting our collective intelligence by feigning "Ooopsies! I didnt mean what I just said!" I could care less about the sales pitch. Just be honest and own it, for chrissakes.

[@charlesfowler3464]

I think it looks great. But I think the surface looks odd. Almost like it's out of focus. I still think hand painted minis are far superior. But it has a great potential for people that may not have the steadyest of hands.

[@Griphook3D]

I agree...

[@thatHARVguy]

It looks pixelated. Not smooth or polished for a final product, but good enough for a base/primer coat to be painted.

[@RobertLeyland]

We had one of the early monochrome versions of this tech, at my work. The support material used a water wash station with a pressurized nozzle to strip it off. It was pretty cool tech back then (2010ish), and made super his detail models. They were also quite strong, and could make quite sharp edges. The resin was expensive, and date coded so that the printer would not accept it past its use-by date. The printer maintenance was a pain, the resin (ink) jet print head was the hardest part to get clean. We also had a color printer that used the gypsum/color inkjet technique. Those models were quite fragile, even when ‘hardened’ by soaking the model in super glue. Most of the sandy looking prints described by other commenters could be explained by this tech. Nice review, and cool printer!

[@ResinForge]

Extremely cool stuff… Hope to see this tech come down to the hobby level in a few years.

[@AndrewAHayes]

20 years is the time period for a patent to expire, but it did eventualy happen with resin and FDM printing!

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed

[@NeoIsrafil]

Omg I'd love that. I mean... we could try to do a community opensource project doing something similar I bet, just have to be different enough to not infringe the patent. Honestly if they dont come to the hobby side and they decide to sit on their patent until expiration I will be really disappointed in them. 3d printing could have come out so much sooner and makers been a thing much earlier if it werent for stupid patent shenanigans.

[@SkateSoup]

​@NeoIsrafil Stratasys are one of the major reasons that fdm and resin were stalled for home users for decades. I'm totally open to the possibility of them having a change of heart, but don't bet money on it.

[@jpsmithsculpts]

This tech has been around for a few years, it's super cool. The surface quality isn't as good as resin though, it has kind of a sandy, grainly look to it, like it's made out of sugar.

[@igorchak48]

it's been more than a few years, more like 25 years.

[@StillBurningStudios]

I remember a company called Sandboxr (now defunct, closed in like 2016) used this kind of system for custom prints of characters from certain games. They were pricey (I think I paid like $90 for a 6” figure), but they looked appealing and colorwise were good. They had a clearcoat they would put over them to help darken the colors slightly and make it less grainy to touch.

[@FauxHammer]

The grain is due to us putting too much matte primer on as I was rushing to make my train

[@crafthappylife]

There are some new post processing systems offered for sale with the machines that can enhance the more natural look.

[@gabrielgarcia2536]

Nice, what would these be? I think they've released a sandblaster, but is there anything else ​@@crafthappylife Many thanks :)

[@AdrianGreen-qr4yy]

really cool tech... the clean up process is what all 3d printers need to be. great vid fauxhammer!

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks 👍

[@GotNextVideo]

There was a place at the mall last year that sold 3D printed figures based on head scans and I think it used this tech, as the prints were color and had a similar look. It's definitely cool to see and there's value for commercial applications, but the prints don't look amazing, they still have a blurry, chalky appearance, and certainly aren't any competition for a nicely hand painted piece. And I think a world where this becomes accessible and high quality at home is probably quite a long way away.

[@FauxHammer]

Oh I’d love to know what that was

[@Rcmike1234]

They were probably of a MJF or similar powder + color machine. The quality of the scans probably heavily affected the quality of the parts.

[@shanematthews1985]

I think if they can make a smaller home version it might be really cool, my issue with resin printing is the curing, cleaning and disposal of leftover resin, this seems to skip a whole lot of that, sure there will still be stuff to dispose of but i imagine this basically collects it all and you just get rid of the waste container, no having to deal with waste from a washing station by hand etc, also seems like it solves the ventilation issue So a smaller home version of this, even if it were mono colour would be amazing

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

Maybe it could be simplified down to enough bays to accommodate RGB, black, and a support material in a "home" version of it.

[@blazichaos7181]

@@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034 A monotone printer with wax material would be amazing.

[@shawnkuhn1700]

We have 2 J850s and run the daylights out of them. Major game changer. No more hand deco.

[@FauxHammer]

Oh wow. Yeah I think I’m I already made my super impressedness clear

[@ghosty227]

Isn't this how Heroforge do their minis? I may be completely wrong, but that sort of finish looks familiar

[@luckytenno]

I would like to see a comparison between the two

[@ygg1967]

Just imagine, in 10 years we might be able to do this at home. I almost can't wait for that.

[@BabyJesus66]

20 years apparently they own the patent for that long.

[@FauxHammer]

Well. Assuming nobody comes up with “similar” tech

[@Hanzi2u]

I guess not then they would probably be sued AF by Stratasys​@@FauxHammer

[@DarrylAdams]

Two thing, people like Louise Sugdon will still do a better paint job, even an ink wash would do wonders for the prepainted mini. Second, hopefully if Blue Shirt Stock Footage guy ever goes to a games con he would get mobbed by Fauxhamner fans.

[@davidwatson22]

Very interesting, love the Idea of the water dissolvable support. This reminds me way back when the office equipment company who I used to work for, got the first full colour inject printer, think it was the oliveti 8000C . Back than if you wanted any colour, you was stuck with a dot matrix printer with a 3 colour ribbon. Now we have full colour laser printers. Would be great to see this technology scaled down for domestic use , even just one colour with that support material would be a great step forward.

[@FauxHammer]

It’ll come I’m sure, with more materials too!

[@terrain4print]

It would be really nice if printers like these went down in price. I don't need the multi-color, but water soluble support would be sooo good. I'm a bit interested in what the surface finish was of that print? I understand you are not going to prime it. 🙂 But how are the details and surfaces?

[@FauxHammer]

Give it time

[@ger5956]

This sounds absolutely wild 😅

[@legionact1]

Haha true

[@FauxHammer]

It is

[@MrTegidTathal]

You know, with HueForge, FDM isn't all solid colors anymore. Though not like this, more like terrain tiles. And everyone can do it. But this is very cool, especially the speed.

[@Xile611]

Yeh if a website doesnt list a price alot of people cant wont have this printers irs probly super expensive.

[@hargert]

What I could find online is retails for 99,000 dollars. I am waiting for this this tech to get to the sub 2k point.

[@Zuluknob]

@@hargert patents will run out in around 25 years so...

[@hargert]

@@Zuluknob You are incorrect on the patents and when they will run out. This tech has been around for many years now it was just in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many of the key patents are already expired.

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah, don't worry, the video about the prints more than the printer!

[@FauxHammer]

What's the source on that price?

[@saron95662]

The blue looks really pastel. And your model in my opinion doesn’t look all that good. Many of the other things that came from the printer look great. But when comparing to your model something just doesn’t look right about it. Same thing goes for the large female they printed but a little less than yours.

[@ozfunghi]

My wife has had one of these at her workplace (industry leading professional 3D printing service) for close to a year now i believe. She brought home a sample print last summer to show me (I'm also into 3D printing... at home/amateur level). EDIT: I stand corrected. I showed her this printer and she had to laugh. "That's the small one" she said. They have the J850 from Stratasys.

[@DarkMiss]

Really cool amazing technology! 🤓. I can see this being used in industry production at some point when it evolves more. Id rather still paint my own models 100% but i can see the appeal 😅

[@stevekay6895]

Now you have blown my f’ing mind !!!

[@FauxHammer]

I did not mean… To blow your mind… In the style of Tenacious D

[@ronaldomaldonado1582]

Color? Thats amazing, but getting rid of supports... Just put it on the computer, a little orientation, and remember to do the cleaning at the end. No fails. I'm guessing the problem with such amazing printing tech is buying the expensive water soluble BS™155 support material for your J99K™ pentajet™ system. But hey, at least theres an option to upgrade from slicer to slicer pro™... for a fee.

[@JaSvenStripwalker]

I doubt we will ever see an affordable home version BUT- this is still very cool and is indeed mind blowing - good video!

[@FauxHammer]

I hope you do! And thanks!!!

[@Gryfang451]

Selling my house to buy 3! I'll put them in my new office at the homeless shelter.!

[@markhickson9087]

Love it. Though the model does look reminiscent of the 3d figures that Sainsburys used to offer to produce if one went in for a scan. We had one done of our son so we could send it too grandparents. They were coloured just like your model. You also don't mention a cost. What are we talking? £1, £10, £50, £100 or £1000??

[@Venser420]

Bro no offense but your whole channel is just a commercial were choosing to watch. I wouldnt worry to much lol

[@FauxHammer]

Yeah, but I have my "i won't be bought" rep to protect! becasue I will not be bought!

[@realWorsin]

To even ask if color printing is the end of painting is kind of stupid. The quality difference is obvious you don't even have to look at the results to know that one is going to be far better than the other.

[@schiltz371]

it's true , the tech is impressive. for a machine costing $100k or more, not so much. let's be honest like you requested.... the resolution wasn't that great, in fact the final result looked fuzzy at best.

[@McCartWoodworks]

Even if this was a single color it would still be a game changer. No more need for supports or cleaning and sanding.

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed

[@TK7837]

I tried to get my boss to buy one, £40000 he said no😭 this is a game changer with no supports needed, so printing complicated parts is amazing, and full colours also you can mix different properties, so yo can have a part that is ridged then goes flexible. This is The Way 😈💯

[@FauxHammer]

Oh, ummm, These are £90k

[@rotemzax4326]

OK quick fun question ... How much would you be willing to pay for a high-end full color, water soluble support and the whole shebang for a home printer as such?

[@lilietto1]

Today in FDM you can do 16 colors with a Bambu, taking the x1C + 4 ams and hub, for 2700€, or alternatively you can buy a Prusa XL for 5 extruders so like 4 colors and a soluble filament for around 4200€. Going by this, I think the price of what you're describing should be 5000€ or less to be considered by small business and whealty individuals or people passionate about it.

[@raeishimura]

I think the support method is really interesting, and the lack of any support markings is really nice. The color option is cool, but even the one in the video has a fuzzy look, like it's out of focus. I think it's good for a quick, easy army, but i don't know think it's going to replace hand painted models. I mean, anyone can push buttons and gwt a machine to spit out a model. The ones who paint it by hand just have such incredible skills that no machine is going to be more impressive than someone who can do the job by hand

[@bigolbearthejammydodger6527]

the baby steps from printing press to printer to 3d printer to Fabrication lab to star trek replicator..we learn to walk so eventually we will run. cool vid.

[@FauxHammer]

I’m after that replicator. But expect we’ll get the red dwarf kind first

[@Dingle.Donger]

Alright let me know in a few years when regular people can buy a printer like this.

[@GeekDetour]

As a first printer using this tech, the results are impressive. BUT, the finish is far from what I see done by artists when manually painted - it looked very Mate and the colors a bit dull.

[@FauxHammer]

That finish is on me. I had to catch my train so we covered it in half a can of spray matte varnish before I left…

[@WireHedd]

What about "TAKE MY MONEY!" is so complex? GIMME!!

[@DanielNorrisEffects]

After dissolving the support "wax" in the water, is it still a waste liquid that needs to be disposed of at a chemical waste facility or is it a solution that can just be poured down the drain? I think if this style of printing gets smaller and cheaper for home use and the support material is made harmless to the environment, then this will be the ultimate next step in the home printing world and a game changer.

[@FauxHammer]

I’m not sure what’s in the support material. I should have asked

[@majorpain8569]

Does any slicer software currently create files that carry color descriptors?

[@scarfa21]

StrataSys is no joke. All of the printers are amazing and workhorses. I only wish I could afford one lol.

[@FauxHammer]

Same

[@TTTray13467]

Just don’t get one of their FDM printers 🙄

[@reytheist]

NO SUPPORT MARKS IS IMPRESSIVE, ROSS. GET OFF MY BACK! While I don't desire color prints right now, there is definitely some exciting technological advancements on the horizon for home printers.

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed!

[@zackvirgo3597]

Can I time jump like 20 years to when we have this as consumer tech?

[@GhosthatArts]

Damn! That's cool! Time to sell everything I have, Take all the loans I can, buy this and run a extension cord from the neighbors house.

[@FauxHammer]

Hahhaah

[@lukaslauermann1984]

1. amazing tech! 2. nice those minis look like mine 6 weeks ago when i started ^^ guess for someone with zero painting experience and / or skill thats a viable option

[@FauxHammer]

Yep. 100% this

[@SenorRu]

I notice there's a lot of tan/orange and blue in the example prints. Are they still perfecting the colour mixing for this method?

[@FauxHammer]

just the colours of the models that were there. there was one I did not get footage of, which was a sculpt with tattoos on the body and it looked ace, butt we'd packed up when it was done. you'll see more models after UKGE

[@Jazzynet100]

Really appreciate you doing a video in this printer. Very very tempted. You wanna go 50/50 on one?

[@FauxHammer]

As soon as I find a buyer who will pay me retaiil for the last 3 cars I owned, 2 of which i no longer own

[@andreabadalassi]

I was hoping for a price drop.... but no we can buy the print... c'mon it's very disappointing, this technology is several years old, i will wait for it to became more affordable than a car at very least.

[@FauxHammer]

Well the point was about the service and how the printer works. But for enough. Can’t please everyone

[@terrencemiltner1005]

Very cool tech. Not sure I want to buy precolored minis. But I suspect when the economies of scale, some licensing agreements with some board game companies could mean no more monotone boardgame pieces. They are already selling sundrop upgrades. How much would boardgamers pay for a colored set of game pieces?

[@FauxHammer]

Exactly!

[@nickholl]

the support and rinse thing is the big thing for me!! cant wait for that to come to hobby printers. The colouring doesn't look that great IMO (and that resin setup is insane!!). It has that chalky flocked sandstone look which im not really keen on. Id be curious to know if thats from the colouring process or if that would happen without the colouring. Would be great to see a plane coloured print with this self supporting tech.

[@FauxHammer]

Agreed, though that look was because we used way too much matte primer in a rush for me to get to the last train

[@euansmith3699]

Cool. Another step towards Replicators. The idea of buying a mini "painted" by a Golden Demon Artist is very interesting.

[@ChonkyTatzelwurm]

I'm kind of wondering how viable mass production will be in the future- the use that comes to mind first for me is board games packaged with full-color figures as game pieces.

[@anoukk_]

Mass production has never been 3dprinting's strong suit. It would be nice but 3d printing just isn't as economical on a large scale than other methods.

[@stefanmcareavey368]

nearly 120.000€ is maybe a bit too much for my little hobby here @ home. But when somebody is bored of it , i´ll would get it .

[@FauxHammer]

WEll the point was you can but the prints, hinestly the resin costs more than some printers!

[@groten6288]

What happened to the audio in this video?

[@ToryBohn]

I would love to see this available for home. I'm not a painter and i'm not going to pay someone to paint, but i do 3d print my own minis

[@FauxHammer]

Same

[@ronaldbell7429]

This is amazing. Long ago, Blizzard had a deal where you could get your World of Warcraft character 3D printed in color. I've got one on a shelf under a glass dome. It looks a LOT like this. I don't think it was painted. I wonder if it was this technology way back then... 10 years ago? More?

[@FauxHammer]

Other people me time this, wish I knew about it.

[@Roymantic]

this is so cool. i am painting my old world army for 4 months now, and i am nearly at hobby burnout. getting a fully painted army, ready to play at my doorstep...if its not much more expensive then a specific miniature company we all love and hate, yeah..i would get some armys

[@FauxHammer]

Well they have a 100mm model for less than £20

[@rjesterie]

Consider that my minis, made of Anycubics " ABS like" resin, shatter when dropped. I would LOVE to know how resilient this printer's resin is with the drop test and how many super glues will work to repair them.

[@FauxHammer]

Haha. I love my model too much to test

[@rjesterie]

@@FauxHammerRoflmao, well, yeah. If a "test model" with thick and thin parts were dropped on camera, or some other bash test just to check how brittle this resin is, followed up by what super glues can be used for repair, I've found gorilla glue does not work well with anycubic ABS like resin, but Locktite does work rather well.

[@RisingApe]

I would absolutely buy full colour minis, I LOVE mini painting but not armies, games I just want to play, great video

[@FauxHammer]

Same here! Thanks for the comments the kindness and the thumbnail tips

[@802Garage]

This is honestly extremely cool. A bit fiddly, sure, but just amazing tech.

[@chemicalcorrosion]

Awesome technology. About the price point. For the hobbyist, absolutely not(but I’ll continue to enjoy my hours spent painting). For a business, a worthy INVESTMENT!!

[@oscarbrandin]

Nice. With shaking hands and crappy eyes. This is amazing.

[@FauxHammer]

I’m right behind you

[@Dr_Evil_Prime]

We had these machines at work, the colours are really matte and fade after a year - they’re designed for visualised prototypes for industry.

[@FauxHammer]

Hmm, I’ll keep an eye out for that. Did you put a clear coat on the parts to protect the colours? We did

[@thespacecowboy420]

WHEN THEY CAN'T BE ARSED TO PUT A PRICE ON THE LINKED PAGE I AM NOT INTERESTED

[@FauxHammer]

Tell me you didn’t watch the video without telling me you didn’t watch the video

[@BIGBENMACDOUCE]

No support, no spill, no alcohol. Tale my money please!

[@FauxHammer]

Yep! That’ll be 90k please

[@omelaurus]

Some factories making 1:87 accessoires for H0 scale train layouts have also introduced 3D printed miniatures in full colour. I wondered how they did that.. now I know! And I love it! Wouldn’t it be great to have 100th gen Deskjet printing your models like this 😅

[@FauxHammer]

It would be awesome!!!

[@TACACS1]

That's not amazing. OK, maybe it is.

[@FauxHammer]

Haha love it

[@MarketResearchReading114]

I would love this technology used in tandem with a painting program like the one in moonbreaker video game.

[@FauxHammer]

Interesing

[@jb_boom]

Damn, my baby son will enjoy this tech once it is accessible to him. for now I'll enjoy the hustle.

[@wmbtech]

I'm guessing the texture of the print looks made of sugar because of the spray jet nature of it's construction. Everything has these scratchy grain lines from the spin of the disk and the inconsistency of the jets. It's still very impressive, but I like smooth, and I can't pretend this doesn't look like a solid sugar, food-colored wedding-cake topper with it's super grainy texture.

[@erebostd]

Insane. 😁👍

[@Thewiggleman]

As a mini artist, I don't see the J55 as a threat, at the moment it's still not there on the actual colour definition and I don't see GW picking up this tech (and even if they did you know they'd be exorbitantly priced), but even when - not if - we do get to a point that we get real good quality consumer grade colour resin printers then it's just a case of pivoting from handpainting models to digitally painting them in my eyes. Also while you're at UKGE say hi to Teratop games! I won't be there but I did some work for them to help prep them for their booth! :D

[@backtoearth1983]

Just popped by to say fuck Stratasys

[@FauxHammer]

After seeing the news this week. I can understand that

[@nakwadroid]

Looks like everyone forgot about FigurePrints. Back in 2010, you could get a fullcolor 3D printed version of your WoW avatar for around 200 bucks. Ok it was not resin, it was gypsum. But the result was stunning already.

[@tomyocom5886]

About $80-$120,000 US dollars J55 or big brother j75 which is Hero Forge fame. Let alone Mimaki. Will Titan Forge hop aboard? , Video to come!

[@FauxHammer]

We’ll see

[@tomyocom5886]

@@FauxHammer Met with Stratasys little over a week ago on the j55 and big brother and their Giant 3200. Nice tech.

[@mortcog4767]

What was the quote? ​@@tomyocom5886

[@matsv201]

I was pretty quick figuring out how it works then i was like "how do the make the support?" And.. well a few seconds later it was shown. Well.. im disipointed. Srill. You should be able to just build one your self of a inkjet printer... if you can find the ink (or somehow figure out how its made. My guess is a thining uv active agent. But i supose some alcohol that evaporat ks also possible)

[@Bornmong]

Amazing

[@scottboyer8450]

This only makes the hobby that much better. Where I might not ever use it to replace hand painted miniatures, I would absolutely use this for Terrain and Bases.

[@AckzaTV]

Why does it look like sandpaper up close? Is it just because its so zoomedin and small? how many mm layer hgeight is 50 microns? 0.005mm?

[@IPrint3dMinis]

I agree this is very cool, but also very far from the pocket of most consumers. Even as a professional myself I am not in the market for machines this expensive. Very neat tech, let's see how it is doing in another 5-10 years.

[@BigMekDanskull]

It's a massive leap forward in terms of technology and technique. I don't see it as the end of people painting their models or anything like that. I'm not the best painter out there but I would be far happier with an army painted in my own style rather than this weird fuzzy looking colouring these printers achieve. No doubt as we go forward they're gonna get better, but it won't delete one of the more creative aspects of the hobby, though I'm sure there are gamers out there who would be happy to forgo the painting process and buy a fully coloured army

[@teckougeki]

We used fullcolor inkjet 3d printers before made by Zcorp for $80000. That was 12 years ago. The prices for these inkjet 3d printers will never go down. People in mainstream fdm, resin 3d printing are just discovering these inkjet printers I guess.

[@Kaiei3D]

I call this Next gen toys, figure will process by order, designer and IP owner can work together and share profit with lowest production cost and lowest wastage of material, no need do mass production to drop down the price to full fill market and also easy to customize. even found if error in production, also can fixed faster and with lower cost

[@YoKins]

I dont think it'll take away from high quality artistry. I can't get over the advancement on the cleanup process.. because there is barely any. No more sanding, filling, glue, epoxy, milliput.. none of that.