8 Passengers Ruby Franke & Connexions Jodi Hildebrandt Fighting For Love?!

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Ruby Franke of 8 Passengers and her bestie Jodi are at it again with bad parenting advice.
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[@oryctolaguspumpkin]

Watching this after the news of their arrests broke. It's chilling. Phrases like "Love is boundaries." really hit even harder with hindsight. I hope these people stay locked up and are no longer able to harm anyone.

[@80sgirl9]

Yeah, hey ladies this did not age well.

[@hlnbee]

Thank goodness they we’re finally arrested!

[@slartibartfast7861]

The good thing is .... ALL of this is evidence now.

[@andreaweloth5976]

“These children that learn to lie to their parents and bishops shouldn’t be punished because they did what they had to, to survive.” That was a powerful statement..

[@oceanstaiga5928]

Exactly! Reminds me of kids getting abused in their home learning to lie well to avoid the abuse. Yes they are lying, but they are so very justified because they lie to protect themselves from the adults that aren’t doing their job! Same goes for any abusive church setting.

[@lunartears6761]

And be honest, we’ve all lied at least once or twice to avoid certain reactions from an adult, even in ACTUAL loving families. All kids do that to an extent. And I mean a ‘once or twice’ as in one or 2 times, not as a habit.

[@keke8880]

Jodi's story about her daughter's bday is such a classic abuser move. Abusers love to ruin birthdays and holidays IME. Also that weird pause Jodi did when ruby briefly said "IPad" chilled me to the bone. My abuser dad did that all time. It's like a weird, performative flash of rage to put the other person, who is just speaking normally, in their place. "I control the conversation. You don't make a sound when I speak or even interject, when I don't want you to. We were having normal discourse but I've decided it's now time to assert my control over you and this conversation."

[@ScarlettKay494]

I am so genuinely confused by that story because this video was filmed within the last couple years, and Jodi implied the birthday was recent. According to the interview with Jodi’s niece, her daughter hasn’t talked to her in YEARS, like before Jodi and Ruby were even connected… soooooooo the whole thing sounds like a straight up lie

[@personalcheeses8073]

Jodi has a look of disdain on her face when Ruby speaks. While Ruby stares at Jodi with a look of devotion

[@sylviarachel]

The way Ruby looks at Jodi reminds me of the way my stepmother used to look at my late father while he was pontificating about ... well, anything, whether he had expertise in it or not. (He did know a lot about many things, but he never limited his shows of expertise to topics he actually knew about.) The way Jodi looks at Ruby reminds me of the way my father used to look at my mother before he cheated on her with my stepmother and my mother asked for a divorce.

[@haintedhouse2990]

at least Ruby will now have time to snag a hotter girlfriend than the Hildebeast

[@Bananas904]

@@personalcheeses8073 Yuck. I can't unsee it now.

[@margaretberryman6260]

🤮🤢🤮

[@radybay9088]

Your analysis of these two is spot on - and a year before the world knew about their child torturing.

[@jcwittig]

I can completely understand why Ruby's kids would be bored. During their summer break for 2 months Ruby took away everything they didn't have access to the internet they didn't have access to their phones they didn't have access to their computer they didn't have access to see their friends, and was also kept away from their aunts uncles and cousins. and that it's a very valid reason to be bored.

[@tooblessedtobestressed9715]

Isolating them so severely looks like narcissistic abuse to me... I used to follow 8 Passengers for a long time but things started to get strange... Be careful how you treat your children because they choose your nursing home LOL (I work in one.. I know... ) Also, narcissist apology style - "I'm sorry that you feel that way" rather than "I'm sorry for what I did" type comments... Heather xo

[@sodapop83]

not true but whatever you believe

[@tatertotbobaandpieck]

@sodapop83 have you tried eating ass

[@a.walters123]

Plus, those poor children have confided many times, even while on camera or live, that they have no friends. I’ll add, in a very heartbreaking way. It almost brought me to tears. An entire summer basically being disciplined, shut in your house with strict, round the clock rules.

[@hawaiibound62]

THEY WERE ABUSED!!!! MORMONS ARE LIVING IN A CULT!!! THEY HAVE THIS FAKE WAY OF LIVING. AND LOCK UP FOOD AWAY FROM KIDS. I WOULD KNOW. I LIVED IN UTAH!!! THE MORMON PARENTS DO THAT!

[@jojol.2630]

Why does it seem like the people who say “you need to be humbled” are the ones who need it themselves?

[@CuteArwen]

Because truly humble people don’t judge others 👌

[@alexandriaa44]

Can we find those parents who commented on these videos THANKING them for good advice?! And send someone to their homes to make sure there children are ok… 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@mikaylaredona5978]

Ok but tbh every time they said “what is love?” I kept think “baby don’t hurt me …” and now the song is stuck in my head.

[@trudes4415]

Same, but I think that’s the best possible thing that could come from their strange BS haha!

[@mst3kharris]

Thank god, I’m not the only one

[@MelanievanGrieken]

Yes! I had that too 😂 it made the bullshit joby said a bit more bearable 😂

[@LivvyAlex]

Baby don’t hurt me, no moreeee 🎶

[@caseyjude5472]

Same

[@ScarlettKay494]

It is so interesting (and very chilling) to go back and watch these videos knowing what we know now

[@BetteDavis19]

right

[@Bones1220]

My eyes POPPED out of my head when they said you should consider a life without your children

[@brendamckinley3036]

This was ultimately the heaviest reaction I had to this ridiculousness. Like I truly wanted to know if she knew what came out of her mouth and knew she could not take it back. And this whole "transaction " thing allows me to believe why she is divorced

[@Dustyp3ar]

These children are victims of both psychological and physical abuse

[@rae_gem]

I feel like Ruby is a case study of assuming that because someone has a lot of children then it means they’re a superior parent. In reality though it just means you have a lot of children 🤷‍♀️

[@futuristic.handgun]

Lmao, yep. It's like, you fuck a lot. Congrats I guess? 🤷 That just screams to me that you're a moron and you know nothing because you're stretched out too thin tryna "raise" all these kids. Gtfo. 😂

[@auntiimandii]

IMO people with fewer children have seemed like better parents. They have more time, energy, patience, and resources to give to each child they have and also value them as the individual people they each are. My sister has 5 children, all 2 yrs or less apart, she's been stretched beyond her mental, emotional, and financial means, and it reflects in how she treats my nieces, specifically her firstborn, gets the brunt of it. It's very sad.

[@sisuguillam5109]

'Offering a soft place to land' is such a good way to describe loving parenthood (or being a loving family member).

[@tatertotbobaandpieck]

It's a great metaphor because it reflects the way that parents can never shield their child from pain, but they can ABSOLUTELY give them a safe and healthy place to feel that pain and support them fully through receiving the help they need. 💓

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@tatertotbobaandpieck That! So very much!

[@Rhiannon.Moonchild]

My mum has always used this phrase 🤍

[@cindygreenwald1202]

Friend of mine wrote a song for his kids with a lyric: "If you're going to learn to walk/you'll sometimes fall/That's what I'm here for..."

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@cindygreenwald1202 That's absolutly lovely!

[@jolenejoleeene]

I want my daughter to be safe, happy, and healthy. I'm selfish like that.

[@JordanandMcKay]

The GALL

[@ATLmodK]

Me too

[@Princess__Buttercup]

I loved reading this knowing your daughter is at home being loved and Ruby & Jodi are in jail. You are a great mom with great instincts.

[@katherinekapellen5248]

They are the last two people that should be "teaching" us about what love is.

[@JordanandMcKay]

Last of the last.

[@ewelinak4933]

I'm glad they were arrested!!!

[@Princess__Buttercup]

You are not kidding.

[@katiefloyd4116]

I want a tshirt that says “living in distortion”

[@FrostAndTheForest]

I am totally singing that to "Living on a prayer"...

[@amandadierenfeldt7052]

Somewhere in Utah Loving In Distortion (of that could fit on a shirt)

[@scottdellaire4552]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@SinfulSloth]

Watching this after everything has come out is mind blowing. I'm glad I watched you guys on Mormon Stories and the recent videos because there are a lot of sensationalized details and misinformation. It rubs me the wrong way because what these kids went through is horrific enough without embellishing it. I hope the kids are safe and learn what real love and real privacy is. I hope that the system isn't as neglectful as it was to the Turpin kids and they can have time to learn how good the real world is.

[@foreverwander0320]

I have this overwhelming sadness for their kids. These women refuse to give their children unconditional love but also say they will cut their kids off if the kids don’t show *them* unconditional love. It’s truly shocking. They way they talk is triggering for me because I faced the same “tough love” growing up and all it’s meant is pain and therapy. I’ve parented my children in the opposite way and I don’t really see my family of origin much. I feel for their kids because they have a years of pain ahead while these women still have the power over them. And Ruby, Jodi, on the off-chance you see this somewhere… people don’t bring up how they’ll treat you when your old bc that should be your motivation. It’s just a warning that you will reap what you’ve sown. Sow cruelty and you’ll die alone and rejected.

[@alirussell4595]

I feel like I'm shopping at Dillard's listening to background music

[@acatnamedm4529]

I find it interesting Connexions redefines words like Scientology does. Or like doublespeak in 1984. Bored means selfish. Bored means I don't want to stimulate myself. How do you generate love? You use your agency to choose Principles of Truth. What the heckin? (Also, thanks for posting this when you're both sick. Hope you feel better soon.)

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

I so get 1984 references.

[@heather9715]

this is really disconcerting watching this after their arrests

[@JordanandMcKay]

Extremely

[@nicolevandelden1406]

@@JordanandMcKay hey did you see that Jodi FINALLY lost her therapy licence. Jessica Danielle ( KZbinr) requested documents and showed them.

[@monicajones6827]

I’m an atheist but THANK GOD I didn’t have a mother like ruby or Jodi! My childhood would have been absolutely miserable.

[@1musketeer311]

so true, didn’t realize how lucky i am 💀

[@Tina06019]

Yeah, my mother (RIP) wasn’t perfect, but MY LORD she was a REAL and loving mother. News flash: we were good-enough parents to our little kids, and they both still love us & visit us.

[@zeMusicluver]

Every time Ruby and Jodi start speaking, my eyes just glaze over. Even when I try to actively listen, it feels like I can't follow them--like there's never an actual subject of the sentences, they're just saying words.

[@wachol3]

" They're just saying words" is the best description of these two!

[@theresedes8546]

Whenever they talk about children, it's so obvious how little they know/understand about child and adolescent development. I get the vibe they think children are tiny manipulative adults with fully formed brains.

[@haileyy_f]

The way they’re describing love is triggering. There are flashing red lights and sirens telling me this is how an abusive ex would have described love to me. This is manipulative and the way they’re smiling through the entire description makes the hair on my neck stand up.

[@BhappyD]

My father was an abusive narcissist, and this is 100% a narcissist’s guide to “love.” And yes, it is VERY triggering to those of us who have been on the receiving end of that “love” (so sorry you’ve been through it too). Every single video I see of them, my heart breaks more and more for those poor kids. I know the difficulties of growing up with a narcissist parent, though I fortunately had my mother who was incredible. These kids not only don’t have that, but they have TWO cultist lunatic narcissists living under the same roof with them 24/7, secluded and cut off from the outside world and cut off from those who genuinely love them. So sad and terrifying all at the same time.

[@foreverwander0320]

It really is. When I was growing up I used to be jealous of other kids bc I knew their moms loved them. Growing up with abusive and/or narcissistic parents is so painful. I hope their kids are able to find healing.

[@ATLmodK]

@@foreverwander0320I went through a toxic childhood too. When my narcissistic parent died, I couldn’t grieve.

[@elliedaniels2245]

@@foreverwander0320 Your comment broke my heart. I hope you found someone who loves you unconditionally. God bless and take care.

[@nicolette3472]

Please don’t apologize for “slacking”! Y’all’s health and well-being are the most important and I’m glad you’re both feeling better. Another dope video I can't fucking stand these people

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

Neither can I. I don't believe these two. Paused and came back three times....Ewwww!!!!!!

[@victoria-y8c8x]

Watching this in Nov 2024, crazy to think these two are in PRISON now. it gives this whole video such an eerie vibe…dramatic irony af.

[@danabiehn8611]

You guys need to repost this!! You are amazing!!

[@marniebell2331]

I’ve been following this case from day one from Australia. In doing so, I’ve come across you 2 and I absolutely love listening to you both. Your humour!! Most of all, your insight blows my mind! More so since what has transpired. Beyond sad

[@lizlarsen1653]

Isn’t it sweet to know they are in jail with no bond? Love is starving your children and tying them to their beds.

[@monicajones6827]

It’s just all so funny because EVERYONE that has ever watched one of these videos 100% believes that Jody and ruby are the ones living in distortion. How can they give life advice when they’re both clearly SOO confused and their personal lives are in shambles. Do they not see how people may not think of them as the pinnacle of truth and principles??

[@monicajones6827]

Self awareness level: 0

[@JunAlex86]

I imagine that part of it has to do with the following they do have. Had they just been reduced to less than 5 people, there would probably be some foresight that they're messaging isn't resonating.

[@sarahblakely4551]

I feel like the hate they receive makes them feel more noble in their pursuits. Like they feel more emboldened by receiving flack, and that their families have rejected them, because in their eyes it confirms that their ideas are right, and that those people are “living in distortion.” It takes a real twisted egotist to think this way but it makes sense given their continued online activity.

[@georgemonde8237]

They're assholes.

[@amyk.p.4953]

She didn't stop it because she thought it would be better for her children, she stopped it because people were calling her out for neglect, they were questioning her marriage status, they were calling CPS on her, and they were witnessing the depression on her kids faces when she took Christmas away from two of the six kids and they had to watch their siblings celebrate Christmas. If we want to add to it, her husband is no longer teaching at the college which is leading people to question if the college told him enough was enough after he sent out weird messages to students (at which point he moved out) AND her oldest daughter's money was taken out of her bank account (tens of thousands of dollars) and after the investigation the bank closed the investigation because it was taken out by someone else on the account. Guess who was on that account......Ruby. She stopped it to hide things that were going on in their household from viewers better.....not because it was better for the children.

Wait... I haven't finished this video yet, but I thought Kevin was still teaching at BYU?

[@amyk.p.4953]

@ He is listed as a professor but isn't teaching any classes.

@@amyk.p.4953 oh wow...

[@AnxiouslyLiving]

I 100% believe Ruby took Sharis money from her account.

[@timothyhatton2760]

@@AnxiouslyLiving Shari Franke Needs To Write A Tell All Book And Ruby Shared That When Russell Was A Newborn Baby That She Had Dropped Him On The Ground And Broke His Femur And He Also Hit His Head And She Said That's Why Russell Is Slow Now. It's On 8 Passengers.

[@christinadiguilio7200]

There are children who have committed murder, been incarcerated for one thing or another, or are addicted to drugs, and their parents have stuck beside them in such horrible circumstances, but Ruby and Jodi advocated cutting off your children and family members for anything such as disagreeing with them, seeking independent thought, playing pranks on siblings etc.....

[@GotLostOnMyWay]

The way they're talking about training yourself to ignore "distortions" and examine "principle" and "take accountability for your flaws/failures" feels very...NXIVM. Ignore emotions, ignore feelings, ignore "disruptions", ignore anything that's screaming at you to question what the Leader is telling you, because they have the ultimate answers and if you don't get it, that's a problem with you... Those poor children. These two absolutely trying to set up their own cult.

[@taystowe9498]

I bet Jodi’s daughter was just picking a restaurant for her birthday dinner that Jodi didn’t want to go to 😂

[@keke8880]

That's what I was thinking too. Maybe she wanted to sleep in or do a certain activity or even just breathed in a way Jodi pretended not to like and that was "distorted"

[@louwinters508]

​@@keke8880it's a flat out lie because her daughter hasn't spoken to her in 10 years plus since she was 17..she even admits that in her book. And her niece confirmed it recently too.

[@nancyjaynes2868]

@taystowe9498: Jessi, Jodi’s niece, said that Jodi’s daughter has nothing to do with her….so I doubt the birthday story

[@ktshusta]

It is not a child’s job to love their parent unconditionally. A parent’s love, however, should be unconditional. It’s not equal, and that’s the whole point.

[@danabiehn8611]

Thanks!

[@JordanandMcKay]

Welcome!

[@vinceradical8910]

WHAT IS LOVE! JODIE DON'T HURT ME! RUBY DONT HURT ME! NO MORE!

[@W.Rain.]

The way Jodie speaks sounds just like someone trying to explain what "Inception" is about without giving spoilers. Edit- typo

[@Savageeye]

LMAO That's my favorite movie, and tru

[@SharpLife4]

No one is bored with packages in the mail. They are bored or upset to open them because you didn’t let the kids play with them. I remember they got a bunch of toys once and she made her kids donate them all and got them no toys for Chris that year. No one would want to open boxes to not enjoy the contents

[@personalcheeses8073]

I think it would get boring. When you have everything you could want and need and all you are getting is duplicates that you have no use for

[@audrajanae]

Sounds like they are saying "we are right, everyone who disagrees with us is wrong."

[@lbelikow]

Is anyone else watching this after Ruby and Jodi got arrested? Thanks Jordan and McKay

[@jacquelinesento425]

Yesssss 😂😂

[@CynthiaWindham-xm9mg]

Yes

[@ellierichard7783]

I keep thinking Love is what makes a Subaru, a Subaru when they say what is love

[@shemweisberger9878]

I FORGOT ABOUT THOSE COMMERCIALS

[@VictoriaWilliamsonUSA]

they lowkey are giving sapphic relationship vibes. they are so down for each other

[@VictoriaWilliamsonUSA]

like ruby left her husband for jody … pretty much more emotionally invested in jody than her husband. that says a lot to me even if there is no se*ual relationship there.

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

I guess so too. But I think more than that they just two dumb asses who encountered each other.

[@Constantin9va]

U misspelt “Highkey”

[@VictoriaWilliamsonUSA]

@@Constantin9va fr !! also nice name heh

[@Bananachan289]

So ruby wants her children to love and thank her for abusing them? Starting a cult because you’re children hate you is really doubling down

[@oceanstaiga5928]

When they say love is not a feeling I wonder if they ever felt it to begin with

[@georgemonde8237]

I'm pretty sure they felt eachother plenty😮

[@Firechristianacademy]

She's trying to hide the fact that she's not wearing her wedding ring anymore

[@amyk.p.4953]

If you look when she is talking with her hands, I am not seeing a ring....

[@cherylstokes636]

Love is a noun AND a verb Jo-Be!! I joined Connexions to ask: "How would you ladies suggest I come out as Bi to my grown children?' I did nott get a response 🤠

[@JordanandMcKay]

Jo-be be like: BANNED

[@georgemonde8237]

😂😂😂😂😅😅😅!!!!

[@sonictheforkliftoperator2670]

“They got bored” bro all the toys in the world don’t compensate for abuse 💀

[@qtasabutton21]

Oooorrrrrr crazy thought…… her kids became spoiled rotten little brats and society now punishes parents for trying to discipline their kids but it took her too long to learn the correct discipline

[@mellsym6353]

@@qtasabutton21considering they were both just arrested for abuse. Because they starved and tied up rubys children, Id say you are wrong 😂

[@AstroMoonGoddess]

Ruby is wearing the most Relief Society outfit. I don’t know if you’ve seen the docu-series The Way Down, but Gwen Shamblin taught her followers to treat their children this way. It’s mostly talked about in episode 3. These exact words were said, “we are ruining our kids lives by letting them think of themselves at all.” It’s sick.

[@sierralapierre9717]

Can you imagine them in a room with Paul, Morgan, Nate and Sutton?!! The circles they would talk themselves into!

[@Constantin9va]

They’d be fighting bc Porgan & Nutton would call the entirety of Mormonism/LDS culture as an aberrant distortion. They’d use the opportunity to make themselves look rational for a change. It b like Alex Jones and Kanye.

[@sierralapierre9717]

@@Constantin9va Good point! They’re all a mess! Lol

[@hanatemonstas4485]

If the arrests didn’t happen, I can totally see Paul & Morgan doing 24 hours with them. Nightmare blunt rotation.

[@Lenci_of_Hazelnut]

"We can't handle more than two motives" is the most accurate thing they have ever said about themselves. Way to explain that black and white thinking, Jobi.

[@kathleenthe7th]

Worrying wtoy 😅😢😢😮wyey😅😢😅 🎉😅😮

[@kathleenthe7th]

Fjftf

[@truecrimenwine489]

Jody and Ruby be like "you are a horrible, selfish, ugly person, and I can tell you that because I love you...." can anyone else see how Jody was raised and shown what love is through these vids..... someone did not get proper love growing up!!

[@lllaaauuurrraaa]

Whoa, Ruby's little fantasy monologue about Chad's "Into the Wild" experience unlocked a very specific memory I have of nearly falling off a snowy cliff in Montana while climbing a mountain at similar (secular, thankfully!) "wilderness program" in 2004. Surreal stuff. If anyone's curious about what goes on in these joints, consider this comment my AMA, lol.

[@dr.7539]

I am curious! How do you look back on your experience?

[@jciarra]

13:30 "As a bisexual woman..." and my eyes immediately zoomed in on what Jordan was referring to and my jaw dropped lmao

[@LivvyAlex]

She’s totally bi. She’s the butch one and Ruby is the fem. They should just come out and admit it

[@Mia199603]

As a bisexual woman - I don't get it

[@jciarra]

@@Mia199603 they way the one on the right is sitting during that section is jokingly referred as a way a lot of sapphic women sit at times

[@Mia199603]

@@jciarra ah, ok. I've always sat like that, it's simply comfortable. But then again I waa always rebellious against social gender rules imposed upon me as a woman and therefore I believe it's bullshit to predict someone's sexuality based on the way they sit. I predict Jodi and Ruby are in a relationship because of the way they interact with each other.

[@josilync7027]

Holy shit this aged so well

[@Mandafina]

“most apologies today is just another form of manipulation” 39:45 is exactly why I think Ruby’s apology in court is disingenuous

[@Nicola0329]

These two sound exactly like my parents when I was a child, until well after I moved out in my twenties. I used to have to write letters to apologise to my father for something like not sharing my sweets with him and I totally got kicked out of home when I was sixteen. This completely conditional, quid pro quo version of 'love' was completely normal in my whole family. As adults, we either don't speak to them at all, or in my case, my parents retired to island living, they're a four-hour flight away and I speak to them twice a year. And I'm completely unashamed to admit that now, when they offer to pay for something or give us money, I take full advantage and refuse to feel bad or like I owe them anything.

[@reddare2386]

The whole discussion about the ‘transactions’ and “if you don’t, I’ll…” just tells me someone set some high quality boundaries with them and they hated it. I would bet big money one of the kids said “I love you, and I want to keeping seeing you but when you xyz it hurts me. If you keep doing xyz I won’t come around anymore or you won’t be welcome here anymore” Good for them 😅

[@NOMAD-qp3dd]

It's crazy how you two were calling them out before the poop hit the fan. Well done. 👏👏👏

[@truecrimenwine489]

Guess what, when you love your kids, when you see them happy, it makes you happy!! And when you see them in destress, you are upset because you LOVE them! So ofcorse you want them to be happy!!!

[@1musketeer311]

THE THUMBNAIL 😭 i was having a bad day until i saw you guys posted i love watching joby be dragged

[@laurelstevens2288]

well this video of Jodi and Ruby aged spectacularly...

[@knitsnknacks]

I just remembered something. When I was 9 and my sister was 4, she called me a poop head. I would like to thank Joby And Rudie for inspiring me to cut out such distortion. ❤❤❤❤❤️

[@b0nkbonk]

amen! the principles of truth show greatly through you and your actions ✝️

[@gracenurse3365]

I’m feeling *so bad* for the prosecution staff that’s going to have to watch each and every one of the Connexion videos, gathering evidence (!!!) OMG

[@JordanandMcKay]

They’re such dogwater. It’s the worst thing to have to watch.

[@gracenurse3365]

@@JordanandMcKay Yes. And I’m also thinking how *confusing* it will be. (“Wait… they’re saying… WHAT?”) I mean, trying to untangle the gobbledygook doublespeak, episode after episode after episode, will make their eyes glaze over (!!)

[@jeniferwendt9207]

It’s funny because how they say children can manipulate parents into making transactions instead of choosing principles is how ruby acts towards her children. Her children have to be perfect for you to love them. This is the opposite of love.

[@nancyjaynes2868]

@jeniferwendt9207: her thinking her children have to be perfect for her to love them means she thinks she is perfect which is hardly the definition of humble which according to Pam is one of the three Pillars of their cult

[@mommabrooke]

Holy crap, you were spot-on about these two!

[@monicaniblett9651]

Their feminist arc moment reminded me of the "when you go so far right you come back around to the left" moments on twitter of conservatives wanting socialism but not understanding what that is hahaha

[@odessa-zn1ep]

6:36 the ancestral instinct that kicked in as I went “bAbY dOn’T hUrT mE”

[@mst3kharris]

Don’t hurt me No more

[@lizmatthei3424]

Here watching again in June 2024 and beyond blown away at how you two had these chicks’ numbers. Bravo to you both.

[@sierralapierre9717]

Her KZbin was all fun and games to her until people started calling her out for the awful things she was doing to her children that she happily filmed like it was ok…. She just didn’t like having to deal with the consequences of her own actions….

[@Tiny_Koi]

Ruby taking account for her actions is distortion apparently LOL

[@Princess__Buttercup]

As it turns out the viewers were right the whole time. She has to deal with the consequences of her actions now!

[@sierralapierre9717]

@@Princess__Buttercup Facts!!

[@sierralapierre9717]

@@Tiny_Koi 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@christyspires1179]

Jody & Ruby be like: Everyone deserves unconditional love. Also Jody & Ruby: Except for you, you distorted POS

[@melissagraff5364]

I’m watching this in the light of the news and they mention at 49:13 that the kids will hold you hostage. Well what did ruby and this Jodi lady do to these kids… held them hostage

[@JordanandMcKay]

Mega ironic

[@Sarah-gu9zr]

Drinking game: take a shot every time you hear “truth and distortion” 🥴

[@tracyveronika]

I don't wanna die 🥺🥺

[@timotato4662]

I would die

[@melanie1825]

- on my way to the ER now 🤢😷😫

[@sisuguillam5109]

Noooooo.... your liver!

[@leslielousma7913]

My gummies had kicked in when I watched last night, but what is this word salad? I was lmao and will watch again😂

[@LadyKittybug]

I better tell my mom that her turning the grocery store trips into a fun trip by getting me potato wedges from the prepared food or liverwurst from the deli counter (can’t touch the stuff now but the smell brings back those happy memories. Such a terrible unloving mom turning a chore into a nice bonding activity.

[@JordanandMcKay]

Same here. Usually meant that I could sway her into making some yummy dessert or something!

[@Lyssa0095]

This is what I do with my kids!! ❤❤

[@cicerojones9248]

They have no idea what love is. The are cruel and manipulative. That is not love.

[@monicaniblett9651]

re: the comments about the 'Honey-Do' list - an interesting thing I read on reddit recently is that the chores the woman owns certain chores that happen every day, or at least multiple times a week. Cooking, laundry, cleaning, dishes. When a man goes "I DO help around the house, AND Im the one with a job" means yes, they go to their job for 8 hours a day, but their "chores" at home are monthly/annual chores. Mow the lawn, change the oil on the cars, clean the gutters. That's not a CHORE so much as a task. (Disclaimer: This is very heteronormative, but the status quo currently strongly influences our cultural norms)

[@TJtheNonna]

Just to remind you that her viewership had totally dropped off so much and the controversy was so loud her sponsorships had dropped. So she closed down her channel because of that - she letting people know that if she had just become a good mom she could have reversed that loss.

[@loridavis9904]

Found your videos by Mormon stories and when this came out. Thank you for trying to expose them prior to it hitting the head lines. I’m so horrified at the damage and destruction these two were able to get away with for so long. Narcissist and psychopaths don’t understand love and empathy and that was very evident prior to the arrest. These two are some of the most distorted people I have heard.

[@missvyxsin]

I have 3 who are so close in age that when they were babies/toddlers, I was trying to check out at the grocery story whilst wearing one with two in the cart with the groceries so that can be tricky, yes....however...I LOVED when you two talked about compromise :) There is a time for "no, honey not now" and a time for "Ok, just this once"

[@alexisp621]

My fiancé and kids are asleep and I am trying so hard to not LOL at the iPad part while I do my nighttime skincare routine😂😂😂 I could watch it over and over again😂

[@kayltara4325]

i rewinded it so many times 🤣🤣🤣😭

[@helenr4300]

wow that discription of marriage was so telling for her relationship

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

So agreed.

[@laneybug4201]

They're operating under the assumption that any and all attempts to influence people (distortion) are bad, which is ridiculous! Most human interaction is influencing each other!

[@JordanandMcKay]

They just want any influence that isn’t coming from them to be distortion

[@AnxiouslyLiving]

The matching coloured outfits and now I’m just noticing Jodi also has the “money piece” blonde strips of hair in the front that you have to specifically ask for at the hair dressers😂

[@Maribeth_Michelle]

I’m sorry but “If it saves you from cutting your five year old out of your life” took me out 😂😂😂

[@bbo7002]

Watching these two in hindsight is kinda chilling ngl. There's so much disdain like.... RADIATING off Jodi, and so much rage simmering behind Ruby's Bland Wholesome Lady facade. Like why does Jodi feel so much contempt for the world? Why is Ruby so fucking angry at everyone? What do they think they deserve that they've never received? And why, WHY would they ever want to take it out on literal CHILDREN?? There's something in ~distortion~ all right, and it's the warped perception these two have of EVERYTHING. Screw em both! Some ppl don't deserve to be parents 😒

[@Jo-razz]

I love how they been color Coronating there clothes. It is like those couples who where matching clothes all the time. Lol. I know it's petty, but they just give off that we are more then friends vibe. Then it again it could be Ruby worship Judie & just follows her commands, down to what to wear. I can see that too.

[@Beth-py4pp]

Don’t comment on things but these are the ideas my parents had. Don’t have a relationship with them to this day and it really did eff me up. And makes parenting my own hard because I need to dissect everything I do and over think every action and remind myself not to be like my parents… I feel so sorry for these kids. They deserve love and a safe and healthy environment

[@southernbelladonna78]

1:14:15.....Wow, she just described her own actions. This is so bizarre.

[@LittleHerdaz]

Not me trying not the burst out laughing at work at the stimulation segment, nope this is very serious 😂❤

[@JustJ-Me]

Wishing you both a happy, less stressful, healthier, and prosperous new year. 🎆🎉 I feel so bad you guys filmed this, considering how ill you are. Poor things. Thank you! 🕊 🫶🏼

[@enbdedrick1295]

I lost it when Jodi said "Buy that horse over there"

[@bflogal18]

I keep going back to Jodi and Ruby harping on “truth” and “responsibility “, yet they take no responsibility for the actual truth of child imprisonment and torture.

[@Troe76]

You guys called this situation right!! Great job❤

[@slf0414]

I just watched this when I learned about this case. McKay and Jordan you said out loud what I was thinking!!

[@moshayy6]

LMAO Jordan, literally the way Jody is sitting was the first thing I noticed lmfao

[@trixjoyce]

As someone who has studied psychology and the behavioral sciences for many years at university, they are wrong about like everything with their made-up "philosophy" or "coaching method" or whatever to call it! Love is an action; that's true, but it's also a feeling. I'm not sure what they're trying to say here? It sounds so weird, like they trying to invent new methods and philosophies that are not based on reality and what science already knows. And the funny thing is, that I'm studying theology now too and I am religious (but very progressive!) and even from that standpoint, this sounds ridiculous...

[@boxie13]

The thing that’s not mentioned that was really sticking out to me is they position themselves to be the ones who define what truth and love is so they can manipulate their families and people in their circle by claiming authority. Who are they to say their kids “aren’t acting in truth” they never clearly define what it is but say they know it. Absolutely insane.

[@lolacokanut9380]

This honestly makes me sick! You two were so spot on and I truly wish you were wrong for the kids sake.

[@borkbork4124]

I got sick over Christmas. Wasnt covid, but it was up there in when covid got me for a week last year. I was sick for over a week, and just now am I feeling normal again.