8 Pre-Internet Video Games That Desperately Needed A Patch

[@pueblonative]

8 NPCs that deserve their own game

[@adamgill9730]

Hmm, good idea Any examples

[@davonross1022]

🔥🔥🔥

[@eliotshoffner]

There's an NPC in New Haven in the first Borderlands that just says "Welcome to Hell." He doesn't do anything else, but I love him for it

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Akira Nishikiyama from Yakuza, making his rise from 1995 to 2005 playable

[@adamgill9730]

@@eliotshoffner if only you had someone like that in Vietnam with "WeLlCoMe tO ThE RiCe FiElDs"

[@zmortha12]

Tues Your Own Adventure has been an institution within my week and I just wanted to say thank you Jules, James, and everyone else in the past like Oasley too. The work and effort you all have and continue to put in significantly brighten our days.

[@Stephen_Eee]

🥹👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@ajd3391]

Beating lion king on SNES is one of my crowning video game achievements. Got it when I was like 6 and beat it when I was 17. That was a memorable sick day off from school!

[@RedDev1l757]

Not as hard as people are making out. Hard by today's standards yes but not hard against other games of the time

[@ajd3391]

@@RedDev1l757 Certainly not as hard as Toy Story on SNES. I still never beat that one lol

[@GodSoulReaper]

Hi Jules, as a game developer myself. The Wipeout-Xl bug is just incompetence of the developer. They forgot to implement a piece of code that normally makes sure that the speed in videogames is the same across the board. So regardless of your actual processing speed of your hardware any game should run at a fixed speed, because otherwise it causes problems like you mentioned with Wipeout. In unity for example when calculating the speed for something we use a multiplier of Time.deltaTime. This just makes sure that it won't use the actual capable speed of your computer but the speed that the developers want to use. Now with a console videogame this problem might not be noticeable because they should all run on the same hardware, but even then it is necessary because you never know if the chipset gets upgraded in future versions of a console.

[@anthonybottigliero8336]

There were many games like this. I forget the program, but there was an app you'd run which would slow down any program it launched.

[@dancarter6268]

I remember playing an old D&D game on PC that had this same problem. There was one area that had a timer, and you had to get through it before the timer ran out or you lost instantly. The timer was based on the clock speed of the processor it was programmed on, and so with a faster computer, the timer could burn through 20 minutes in less than a second.

[@anthonybottigliero8336]

MoSlo, I think it was called.

[@darthharbinger1183]

With jak x there is an auto save issue with the original release disks (black cover). The greatest hits versions of games are usually "patched" as that version of jak x does not have that issue.

[@kurtsudheim825]

I'm just do glad I had a normal ps2

[@blakelewis5173]

I can’t believe you used my idea! Thanks guys! I love the channel! Keep up the good work and stay safe!

[@bearcataquatic]

8 NPCs that were secretly other NPCs Like the malkavian sisters in vampire the masquerade Love you jules! You and the whole whatculture team!

[@aurochtamer]

The two examples I could think of were making it so that hitting objects with attacks didn't drop your health in Comix Zone. And in Sonic 2, when you plug it into Sonic and Knuckles, fix the issue with Knuckle's jump height where he couldn't hit the only weak point on the final boss.

[@kenjohns1982]

Just have to add Enter the Matrix to this list. There was literally a part that you couldn't get past because the game would freeze at a certain part unless you turned off the sound effects. I returned 4 copies until my local Meijer finally believed me that it was a broken game.

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

Didn't have that issue.

[@the-engneer]

I beat that game multiple times on GameCube, and remember hearing about these problems, but I guess I was lucky enough not to have this happen

[@kenjohns1982]

@@the-engneer it was a Playstation bug

[@the-engneer]

@@kenjohns1982 I kinda figured it was a PlayStation, or Xbox thing. Seems like I got lucky with the GameCube for the one and only time LoL

[@GmnMuic]

10 hidden gems that deserve a second chance. Like Phantom Dust

[@StageRight123]

Phantom Dust is one of the worst games I've ever played, and it did get a second chance with backwards compatibility with Xbox 1/Series.

[@chrisrichard5310]

I absolutely love phantom dust. Still play it on my Xbox one.

[@tristanrewald9231]

Man, I could listen to you talk about Jak X all day. To this day it’s still my quickest path to guaranteed fun. Until I lose patience and start slipping and spinning on the sewer level. Never bring an waterslide tube to a car fight.

[@TheRealJohnPat]

😂

[@briankenney9528]

Best moments where you get your first weapon. The "its dangerous to go alone, take this" moments

[@mikespike2099]

WIP3OUT .... Awesome memories!!! Loved the setting and the designs and the thumping music!!! WHo could forget launching into a track with Firestarter by the Prodigy pumping in the background Not my Mum for one! Hahaha tuned the volume way up!

[@JasperQuentez]

Retro edition: Best video game manuals that shipped with the game

[@KingReejer]

My recommendation for next week’s episode: “Modern games that are drastically different than their original counterparts.” Imagine the list comparing things like Ghost Recon Breakpoint to old Ghost Recon Jungle Storm on the PS2.

[@spiritwaker9595]

Hearing people talk about Jak X is such a walk down memory lane for me. Not only because I loved the game to death, but I have vivid memories of my Mum coming home from a stressful day at work, booting up our PS2, and playing it as a means to destress. And as for a new entry: Games where the sequels/spinoffs were better received

[@sashaburrow6186]

I recall that "Jetset Willy" the highly anticipated sequel to the ZX Spectrum hit "Manic Miner" couldn't be completed because just ONE of the hundreds of items you had to pick up was in the wrong place and you couldn't get it without dying. There was a POKE (Hex code) you could enter manually (EVERY TIME you wanted to run the game) that would remedy this, but only if you had the magazine the code was printed in...

[@willianelsonszczepanski6211]

There's a bug on Jak 2 that made impossible to beat the game; If you advanced in the race minigame eventually one of the races will spawn on the same spot of a main mission, and the game just can't handle two mission start point close to each other, so the main mission will disapear and the race minigame will take the place. I always like to make the sidequests before the main quests so when I discover that I will had to start the whole game just because I play some races I just give up and abandon the game. And I discover that bug ain't fixed even in the re-realed trilogy version.

[@andyinthebasement]

Character deaths you can avoid that change the story.

[@Numbaoneplayer1]

Meow

[@canadiandee6342]

To complete the Lion King on SNES, my console stayed on for days. My whole family was in on it. The fear of a thunderstorm knocking out the power or accidentally unplugging the game...

[@AvidCat5000]

Played LoZ for decades and didn't know about a 2nd shovel. Once I bought it, I never returned until I could get the bow. The only glitches I used were the bomb arrow and the screen skip.

[@ajonescouk]

The Wipeout bug was fairly common across a lot of games that assumed the CPU clock speed. That was the point of the "Turbo" button on that vintage of PC - allowing you to slow the CPU back down to the speed of older hardware generations.

[@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220]

Top Ten Bosses Jules can defeat if he was magically sucked into a video game.

[@taimereblackston9891]

Back when Ben and Adam were on WhatCulture they would do parody list like this but they don’t do these like dat anymore

[@MMKMoore1]

I was so excited to play Pacman on the Atari when I was a kid. That game seriously crushed my barely sprouted gaming spirit, and I didn't touch another video game for nearly 10 years.

[@zentendoxn8955]

List Idea: Game Moments Where You Knew What Other Players Were Thinking.

[@zackthompson3731]

8 Tuesdays that Jules put a smile on my face 😁 stay golden chum!

[@charliedoesthings8500]

The E.T. Graveyard, sadly, isn't in the Mexican desert, it's in the NEW Mexican one. I only correct this because friends of mine here in New Mexico "pilgrimaged" to the site to find copies of the game before they filled it with concrete.

[@magki3970]

God what I'd give to have Jules and Matthew berry on an episode narrating literally anything

[@phillipscheid4505]

Don't forget Ben Potter!

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Jak-X Combat Racing has one of the most awesome intros in video game history, not gonna lie. Anything with Queens of the Stone Age automatically makes that list.

[@KyleSetFire]

Wait wait what? Was it Go with the Flow? Because that song has splash screen menu music all over it and I'm yet to see it used as such 😪

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

@@KyleSetFire It was Millionaire

[@tgotti05BTG]

Ima take a shot: Top games where the fans use mods to make better DLC or endings than the creators.

[@gabbyn978]

ALBION - a science fiction / fantasy cross over RPG, made by Blue Byte. Most of it was either in 2D (manoevering across the landscape) or turn based (combat on a grid). Unfortunately, there were 3D passages, too. In one of them, you had to run along a wall and hit three switches which would open a door on the other side of the hall, then turn and run straight at the door and pass through in order to reach the next area. The problem? It was timed. And guess which clock was used to check the time. Hint: It was not the clock that is used to tell which time it is. That leaves the CPU- and so it was unplayable with anything beyond a Pentium 120.

[@retrovideogamejunkie]

I remember the soul caliber 3 corrupt saves thing... I also remember how the pirate scene fix the thing almost immediately

[@tennairiusrobinson8349]

8 videos games that were rip offs and did the game mechanics just as good if not better.💪🏾

[@Ravensplizam]

Jules, I just want to say I appreciate that you end videos with a positive message to people struggling. I think it is awesome, and you are Amazing!

[@chadb9270]

As a fellow bald man, I would like a list of the strongest and most badass bald men in gaming.

[@rangerthederpgoat2326]

They did that not too long ago, beginning of 2021 I think, it was a live stream with Oasley, James, and Jules.

[@chadb9270]

@@rangerthederpgoat2326, that’s a live stream, not a Tues your own adventure.

[@XenoHunter616]

Jules is the best what culture member, hes funny af 😂

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

Especially when he thinks Capcom made The Lion King. This is as stupid at Triple Jump claiming Virtua Fighter was the first polygon based arcade game.

[@datenshisekai]

looks like the UK and the Netherlands share the same sort of weather, been raining a lot here a lot of the riverbanks are almost overflowing lol

[@jonyoung3536]

Here's one that needed a patch desperately. WWE Day of Reckoning. Had a bug where if you got someone to red damage any attacks to the injured limb would instantly allow them to spring back up. Made cage and ladder matches a race to win match or you had to hope you had a move that targeted an un-critically damaged body part

[@magicjake7386]

Love the video! Fun to re-visit the nostalgia of the games of my childhood. I would love to see a video about times when critic reviews got it wrong. Games which were better received despite poor reviews or times which the reviews were so high, but the game fell flat. Can't wait to see what gem of a video you cook up next.

[@Stratelier]

Fun fact: Someone actually wrote a patch for _E.T._ for the Atari 2600! (You'd have to apply the patch directly over the game's ROM file) It's not perfect, but it (1) fixes E.T.'s sprite color, (2) fixes the collision detection with pits, and (3) slows down the energy timer so you can actually take time to move around and explore.

[@alexanderparedes9412]

Games that were terrible at launch.. but are now masterpieces

[@zentendoxn8955]

List Idea: Games Where You Rooted for Both the Heroes and Villains. (maybe Dragon Ball FighterZ’s Story Mode.)

[@pinkcatminht]

I'm so happy that the OG link's awakening is getting recognition. It was so glitchy but it was also the first game I ever finished on my own! Ironically enough, thanks to the map glitch lmao. I've been watching your videos off and on for years, Jules, and I always enjoy your kind words at the end of them. Thanks for sharing them 💛

[@jgog1]

Oh Sphinx and the cursed mummy had a game breaking bug (you can find it I nthe wikipedia) where if you entered this specific room, didn't solve the puzzle, and left, then you wouldn't be able to progress any further in the game. My 9 year old self was certain I just had to keep trying and I'd come back to that game for a couple hours a week for over a month trying to figure out what I was missing.

[@Wyldfoxx]

Thank you sooo much for mentioning Guru Larry. He is awesome!

[@postie9434]

frontier first encounters . when it first came out if you had soundblaster you could not have the sound on , they had to eventually send a disk out with the patch

[@matthewstone5310]

Games that really needed a Save Option of some kind. A couple of examples: "Jurassic Park" on the SNES, and "Blaster Master" on the NES.

[@BrainAbsoluteZero]

What you have there is a list of games to throw in the face of the people who say, 'games used to just work out of the box before the internet.'

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

2:20 So that's what you meant by pre-internet. Link's Awakening already had a remake so it doesn't need a patch. 6:53 I never heard of this bug.

[@nicholasharvey1232]

I actually got a second shovel in Link's Awakening just to see what would happen. I got the Fire Rod in Turtle Rock, and it didn't appear in my inventory because there was no slot available for it. You need the Fire Rod to beat both the Turtle Rock boss and one of the forms of the final boss inside the Wind Fish's Egg.

[@UltimateViper]

So early the internet hasn't gotten patched yet

[@BasVoet]

7:50 Nice shoutout to Guru Larry. His channel has got great content!

[@CopaceticCFHMMA]

Idea :10 Easter eggs that reference cancelled games possibly? Can’t find any other videos on it. There’s plenty of examples. Like the Pirate that was set to be the main villain in project dream makes a small cameo in Banjo Kazooie 2

[@joeschmo3844]

I would argue for Mercenaries 2: World in Flames. Technically, it wasn’t pre internet, but it was slightly too early for post release patches for console games to be a thing, which is a shame because there are a few moments where the game Pandemic Studios was trying to make shines through the bugs and it is glorious, but then another small bug disrupts it.

[@patrickmichaelis1783]

Another game who has needed a patch is the Pal Version from Digimon World, where a Bug prevented you from speaking with an Digimon, with makes completing the Game really difficult.

[@mack1305]

I believe it was the OG Baldurs Gate on PC. If you ran a Half-Elf multi class. At one point in the dungeon it shot a fireball at you. And when it happened the game would crash. It took forever to find out what was going on.

[@tagginondawal3961]

Man I grew up on Zelda II, hearing those words hurt lol. It was the golden foiled cartridge also. That was my first foray into the ToZ series and, being a child, the Game Over screen with Ganon scared the bejeezus out of me. And I miss the WIpeout series. Psygnosis was one of my favorite devs, as I really liked the Colony Wars series that they made.

[@jimschneider799]

@14:40 - fun fact; Coleco did a horrendously bad job on Pac Man for the Atari 2600 on purpose. They were hoping to boost sales of the Colecovision by pointing out how crap Atari games are.

[@stevenmoffett3460]

Legend of Dragoon for the PS1 had a glitch that it would freeze at a very specific scene transition when played on a PS2. Wouldn't freeze when played on PS1 or PS3 but always on PS2.

[@louashfield5902]

10 quotes/sayings/sentences from games forever stuck in our minds. e.g: Zelda's "Hey listen!", MGS' "Snake? Snake!? SNAAAAKE!""....etc

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

In the first or second Mega Man, you could get to the last stage of the last boss fight and not be able to do anything if you were out of bubbles. There was no way to go back to a point where you can get a refill so the only thing you could do is start over from the beginning of the game.

[@gamesman0118]

I had an original Diablo 2 CD basically explode in my DVD drive because the plastic disc was flawed and a crack grew and the speed of the DVD drive turned it into shrapnel. When I called customer service they offered to sell me a discounted cd at twice what I would pay for a used version. So I would like you to do a Tues Your Own Adventure on games, mods or peripherals that damaged your computer, console or system.

[@rayaanahmed5180]

The fact that me and my sister were so tired we gave up at the start of the final level of lion King

[@captainhostile101]

How about the best acting performances in video game industry? I would love to see that.

[@RyuzakiTaiyou]

10 games which would've been better with a turn based fighting system (for example an action game which was rather slow paced and boring, so a turn based system would've actually giving it depth)

[@TKARLO2]

Name 10 please

[@Salad5373]

Top 10 very over the top sequels that we love anyway

[@Nukem9999]

I have a suggestion for a list. Multiplayer Games That Are Still Going Despite Being Declared Dead. The playerbase has dropped, the esports league closed down, reviewers and internet commentors have smugly declared that this game is finished and you're stupid if you still play it. And yet, the game still has an active playerbase, you can get matches at any hour of the day and the devs are even still supporting it with patches and new content! In spite of the judgment of the gaming community who don't play it, this "dead" game is still going. Maybe not strong, but it refuses to die. Heroes of the Storm is one example.

[@eerkom]

Suggestion: Best nature in videogames. I don't mean just graphics wise (older games can be included). More along the lines of atmosphere, music, artistic style etc. We all have spent our fair share of time in cool virtual forests.

[@mangaloverfox6]

8 best simulator games

[@ryancraig110]

Top 8 best levels in fps games

[@phillipscheid4505]

I still don't understand how Aliens: Colonial Marines has not been patched after it was revealed there was a single typo in the code for the enemies' AI.

[@jamesianhutchison1165]

I'm shocked and confused by the Soul Calibur 3 one. I played SC3 almost religiously right up to getting a PS3, Chronicle of the Sword was my favourite way to play it too, but I never experienced that. And I was definitely OCD about my memory cards. 😅

[@cnsmooth]

To the guy that suggested this topic, bravo. I've yet to watch the video yet, but such a good topic for discussion and investigation.

[@Matthew_and_Ami]

Idea: not sure if this has been done yet, so if it has feel free to link the respective videos. Best RTS games of the 80s, 90s, 2000s And yes, technically that is three separate videos

[@Widow_maker-q5r]

10 moments where you thought you were at the end of a campaign when it wasn't

[@Wolf359inc]

For some reason, this reminds me of the demo version of Star Wars: Dark Forces. It was available from Lucas Arts as a 100+ MB download, back in the days of dial-up internet, where it would take roughly four minutes to download 1MB. Now, Lucas Arts was an American company. I live in Australia. To get the file, you needed to dial into an American number, with costs associated for an international phone call, which were prohibitively expensive back then. 60MB, IIRC, at four minutes per megabyte, or 240 odd minutes = approximately a four hour international phone call. Now, I was quite prepared to do this, advised my parents that I would be doing this, and told them I would pay for the cost of the call (I had just started working full time, and still lived with them). Three and a half hours into the download, my dad picked up the phone to make a call… Connection lost. File corrupted. No chance of simply resuming the download, and had to start from scratch… Tried again later that night, when everyone was asleep, and finally got the demo. But the phone bill! Yikes. For young me, though, totally worth it, to be able to play an early access version of something new for Star Wars (even though I could easily have purchased three or so copies of the retail version for the cost, when released…). I would not do this, these days, if circumstances were similar. This was the incident that convinced me to have my own phone line installed at the house, for uninterrupted modem use. Cheers,

[@michaelmacorso4479]

Good to see the beloved Jules back

[@aaronworthing1023]

Suggestion: abilities in games you stupidly lost in the sequel. You know how it is. Very often in a sequel they start you back at close to square one. But sometimes the ability you lose is really stupid Like in horizon zero dawn, I could whistle but 6 months later in forbidden west… I can’t? Like did she forget how? At least in narrative terms, it’s stupid you lost the ability. If there’s an explanation, I missed it

[@aesop2733]

It's kind of cool to see how reviled The Lion King was/is because as a little kid that game was nearly impossible for me. I thought I sucked 🥺

[@Muhammadwasapedo]

Switching between The Lion King, and Alladin, was like night and day back on the genesis. Though my favorite game was Zombies Ate My Neighbors.

[@Wyldfoxx]

(Recommendation) I would love to see a list about games that look amazing for their time... or... games that pushed their platform to the very limit. Games that still look amazing years later... etc...

[@benc3179]

Id want a patch for the purple nines glitch in gta3 for ps2. I once played this game through for story, then created a new game thinling about going for 100%, put all the time and effort it to find because i completed the payphone missipns near the end of the first game against the purple nine gang that they would no longer spawn in that game but any other games on the save block. By that time I was on near 80% and found all packages and unique jumps. All that time wasted 😭

[@andriyshapovalov7472]

where are all the special characters?) no more Beef Gates, Slime Jesus or Bielzelblub 😥

[@gettingannoyedquick]

The Soul Calibur 3 glitch pissed me off because I was 2 chapters away from beating chronicles of the sword when it happen.

[@thevoiceofreason5467]

10 Video game sidekicks/helpers that just got in the way, caused problems or were generally so annoying they made you save the game just so you could destroy them with impunity.

[@eddmario]

Fun fact: The Atari 2600 version of Pac-Man was actually made by Atari's rival company and was made terrible on purpose to get people to buy the version for their own system.

[@pablodavidclavijo4609]

10:34 that's actually not that uncommon. Games run part of their code on screen refreshes, every time there's a new frame part of the code runs again. If you programmed a game for a console with a fixed or capped frame rate in mind and moved to a PC with a virtually unlimited one, certain calculations will be off. That's why, for example, you can't beat the 360 spin trick on GTA SA's auto school on 60fps, It will always think you oversteered

[@DJ_Skeet]

Idea for list: Game clones that are better (or at least as good) as the original

[@DoodleBreadOfficial]

*Possible TYOA Video Idea:* Top 8 _(or Top 10)_ TYOA Episodes of 2022

[@nealjustus9500]

here is an idea for a tues your own adventure video, how about the best games with an inspiring message. the main reason for this is that there is a lot of games were the main message is "everything is bad give up all hope" or that are just dark and edgy for little to no reason at all and we all need some hope.

[@jarjaracroft]

Ten games you walked away from to save the characters. I remember stopping before the end of RDR to save John from his fate. Same with repeat life is strange playthroughs. Also love the series, the shining light of whatculture

[@TayRich93]

You’re not alone I’m on my 2nd play through of red dead 2 I been taking my mf time this play around I started on the 2nd play through like a couple months ago lol

[@dasi8111]

Undertale‘s ending pretty much revolves around this idea. Never touched it after finishing it once.

[@tubensalat1453]

Same with RDR; beautiful morning at the farm, wife, son and factotum wanted something, I saved and never returned.

[@KashouWannabe]

Older games got patched, they just required re-releases or "update discs" depending on the platform.

[@kenjohns1982]

I have never been able to beat a souls-like game but I'll tell you what, when The Lion King released, I was able to beat it on hard without losing a life. Granted, it took a while to "get good", but as long as you can get past the ostrich part, the rest is fairly easy.

[@ThomasakaDes]

Suikoden 5 for ps2 needed a patch. There's a game breaking glitch in it which crashes the game half way through. There's a spot where you walk across a bridge and when the game is supposed to load the new area it crashes. Fortunately it doesn't happen all the time, but too often. I had to clean the disc and stuff for it to get fixed. Yeah I know that sounds like a disc problem, but it was really a game glitch.

[@Tmnt8118]

Top 10 best puzzles in video games

[@KuzuIsGreat]

I don't know if this was common knowledge back then when Jak X: Combat Racing was out but if you had a psp with the Daxter game and connected it to your ps2 when Jak X was running you could unlock Daxter as a driver in the multiplayer

[@davidcrawforth4068]

I'm having one of the worst days today but the wiggle physics joke really made me laugh.

[@CharlesZaiyan]

Wait. Are you telling me that's what went wrong with my SoulCalibur 3 save file? So if I happen to put it on a memory card with nothing else, then it should be all good right? Or is there something else to it that I need to know?

[@Jackaloop]

What about a top for best/useful creature companions?

[@Just4Fun-Zocker]

You know what's the worst part about the Wipeout problem? That devs all over the world didn't learn anything from this. Even today there are still games with that kind of problem. At least one or two Shantae games run like they are on fast forward mode on modern PC's and there are still games that break in one form or another when they are played with high framerates. You get physics bugging out or enemies dealing more damage just because the game runs with more than 30 or 60 frames per second.

[@GodSoulReaper]

It is actually a simple problem to solve for a developer nowadays. However, maybe back then it was not as easy. There is a line of code that you normally need to add when calculating the speed in your videogame. For example: It is called Time.deltaTime in the Unity engine. What it does, it makes sure that the speed is not based on the processing power of your hardware. If it still happens nowadays than it's just incompetence of a developer not knowing what they are doing.

[@x.kalibre]

Very nice list, as always =) I do have to nitpick on one thing, though: Lion King wasn't a Capcom game, it was actually developed by Westwood Studios (yes, that Westwood) and published by Virgin! :P And I remember reading the SC3 savefile problems were even worse... either way, I'm not deleting that savefile ever -_- Lastly, wasn't there a soccer game released for the ol' Saturn (I believe related to the 1996 Summer Olympics) that had such a gamebreaking bug that the EU version was pulled from shelves just a few weeks after release? I'm not being able to find anything about this, but maybe someone can confirm it :D Cheers!