8BitDo's Ultimate (Docked) Steam Deck Companion

[@MotherRat-ii6ji]

If you plug the dock into your computer, it acts as a pass through for the 2.4 dongle (so you can just leave the dongle in the compartment in the dock)

[@RetroGameCorps]

Oh that’s super handy, thanks for the tip!

[@camperotactico]

Is this a question or a statement? I am curious about this

[@greenprotag]

@@camperotactico It's a passthrough. I think Spawn wave pointed this out.

[@MotherRat-ii6ji]

@@camperotactico Statement.

[@TheQuestingHero]

This is exactly what i have been trying to find out. thank you

[@adams4244]

I've been using a PS4 dualshock pro. The touchpad is recognized as a mouse which really helps when using Moonlight and for the desktop mode.

[@Boyiaka97]

Same, well just a regular PS4 controller lol. But regardless, that touchpad piece comes in handy so much, and the way Steam handles controller mapping has worked great for me so far.

[@luvenstein1852]

Ps4 and the steam controllers are the only acceptable deck controllers, trackpads are a must. Until someone finally releases a duke controller with trackpads that is, if only. 😂

[@doomsdalicious]

Same, except I use the Dualsense. So cherry for the Deck!

[@Jeno_Sinatra]

What the hell is a "dualshock pro?"

[@greenprotag]

I believe the Bluetooth model DOES have D-input. It's a little confusing and these two controllers should PROBABLY have been named VERY differently so that people didn't mix them up. The hall-sticks make the the $70 version much better for the sake of longevity and accuracy and should actually be considered EVEN if the user never touches a Nintendo switch. Stick drift is one of those issues that might never be a problem or be an issue out of the box. The bluetooth controller feature set is suggesting "one controller for everything" in a way and I think getting a more robust stick will pay out value when it doesn't need to be replaced. Even if it simply doubled the lifespan it would be worth the $20.

[@Empty12345]

Exactly this!

[@oktosite_]

I want to agree, but the lack of a slot for easily replaceable batteries like in the 8BitDo Pro 2 really limits this controller's longevity.

[@Empty12345]

@@oktosite_ True I guess, but you could technically remove the battery inside after the warranty & replace it. Cable would be the second option.

[@Hofnarr2k]

That's what I thought too about the D-input. It's the typical wrong Amazon table where they compare two different attributes. How can they compare Bluetooth/2.4g with X-input/D-input? Doesn't make sense

[@ramonandrajo6348]

Do you know if this controller works on linux?

[@buddyfx7026]

Solid review, great viewpoint and I think you've added some perspective to people considering controllers for different use cases. I initially watched ETA primes video and was leaning towards the more expensive one but you made it clear for me to understand that's not necessarily the best direction.

[@CrystallineLore]

It kind of is though. The cheaper one doesn't have hall controller sticks while the more expensive one can also do bluetooth should you need it and still has a 2.5hz dongle on top of that too.

[@llai8501]

@@CrystallineLore exactly. Not only will the BT version last longer, but it has more use cases so is far more versatile and for not much more money.

[@RetroGameCorps]

UPDATE #3: Valve has fixed the compatibility issues with their latest SteamOS preview build: www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/steamos-34-preview-adds-support-for-8bitdo-ultimate-wireless-controller-dongle/ UPDATE #2: Here is a community solution to get the 2.4GHz version of the controller to work with the Steam Deck properly: www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/ymv653/guide_to_setup_the_8bitdo_ultimate_24ghz_wireless/ UPDATE: it turns out the 2.4GHz version of the 8BitDo Ultimate controller is not as compatible with the Steam Deck as I initially thought. Someone pointed out that it has compatibility issues with many recent games, where the right analog stick doesn’t register and the triggers aren’t detecting an analog input. For example, this morning I tested more games and God of War and LEGO Star Wars Skywalker Saga don’t register the right analog stick or triggers. I got lucky in that all the games I tested for my review video worked fine with this setup. At this point we can either hope for 8BitDo to upgrade their firmware (unlikely), or Valve to improve x-input compatibility (more likely but not guaranteed). However, if you pre-ordered this controller specifically for playing with a docked Steam Deck (like I did), then you may want to cancel the order and wait to see if a fix is incoming. I apologize for the confusion, this is frustrating that 8BitDo’s implementation of this otherwise exceptional controller is so haphazard.

[@chaos6604]

2.4ghz also does not work on some of my Windows PC Xbox Gamepass games such as Outriders and Dreamlight Valley. Not sure if I'm the only one experiencing it though.

[@hakanpakan]

I just cancelled my pre-order. It was disappointing since I thought this product would go very well with steamdeck dock. Anyway, thank you for all the information. helped me a lot.

[@rodrigo53]

Delete this video then. It serves no purpose other that confusing costumers.

[@samutz]

There is a topic in the 8bitdo subreddit about these issues that has workarounds for dinput mode and xinput mode on linux. The dinput fix has a few success reports, one being on Steam Deck I believe. The xinput fix has a few success reports to, but I don't think any of them are for the Deck, just other linux distros. I also sent a support ticket to 8BitDo regarding the dinput on linux, because I was having issues with the controller in Moonlight-Qt on Raspberry Pi (which is supposed to be supported). They confirmed that it's an SDL2 issue, which is a library that Moonlight-Qt and Steam on linux uses for controller mapping. The support person told me they made the dev team aware, but could not tell me if a firmware fix would be coming. Others that have contacted them regarding the Deck have said they got responses simply saying the Deck isn't supported. But if they fix it for SDL2 on the RPi, they might inadvertently fix it for the Deck as well.

[@hekboogie1]

got mine yesterday and runs bad on steam deck. runs flawless on my main pc. hopefully they have an update to this controller

[@volodesi0000]

Never understood why people say you need D-Input for android. I've only ever used X-Input on my Android devices and it's worked perfectly fine. Android has had support for X-Input for years.

[@LumbyMcGumby]

I have a razer controller that only has dinput and it's made for mobile. On windows you need to install a secondary xinput driver for it. It can get confusing hahaha

[@dawnray540]

D input is a input style that was supposed to streamline navigating android devices. X input is over all better for gaming and some devices will even lower input lag when using X input. There are also games on the playstore that specifically use D input.

[@LPPanther]

My 8-Bit Do Pro 2 doesn't work on Android in X-Input mode.

[@RetroGameCorps]

I agree that Android works with x-input, but with this controller specifically, on the d-input method works in Android.

[@CrystallineLore]

Doesn't really matter if you never plan on using it for android anyway.

[@Agent234sp]

One extra thing about the bluetooth model to keep in mind: it comes with Hall-Effect Analog Sticks like the Gulikit controller, which should make the sticks last significantly longer then the lower-end model. As a more technical player, many of my potentiometer sticks have lost too-much accuracy for many games, so I have a lot of controllers I don't use anymore. Even if you don't have a switch: I'd still consider the Bluetooth model (it comes with a 2.4 GHz dongle too).

[@Legokillen51]

Yeah, I definitely think the 20 bucks extra is worth it for the Hall effect since they will last a lot longer, and you get Bluetooth

[@jonnyeh]

I bought that model but it doesn't work with the Steam Deck in 2.4GHz mode, as far as I've tried. This thing sucks, I'm going to return it.

[@zae4557]

Dumb question, could I possible use that dongle to connect to my Xbox? Or maybe find another brand for a dongle to use as an adapter to be able to use it on Xbox? I’m tired of my stock controller, also my fingers hurt from playing claw for years so I’d like some back paddle options at a wireless option.

[@Legokillen51]

@@zae4557 most likely won’t work since it’s for windows and not for Xbox. 8bitdo do sell a controller like this for Xbox but it’s only wired.

[@zae4557]

@@Legokillen51 yeah I saw it, don’t like how the cable isn’t t detachable. I have no problem with wired controllers, I’ve had multiple Razer wolverines and turtle beach recons, as well as both gens of fusion pros. It’s just that I got rid of them to save money and play claw. I was thinking like maybe another companies Bluetooth adapter could work, I know that Collective minds used to make wired adapters, but now it’s the Cronus zen, and i don’t feel like cheating.

[@adelin081]

I would love to see an input latency test between the controller connected with 2.4 ghz dongle and the bluetooth controller on the steam deck.

[@haughtygarbage5848]

my guess would be, if the test is really rigorous, 2.4g will have less latency than bt but both will feel decent in modern games; those used to low latency playing retro games may feel it more on the bt side

[@BeHappyTo]

its hard to tell without testing... DSv2 bt is faster than anything (except when oc). But for xbox controllers its something like 6ms dongle 7ms wired 12ms bt soooo

[@lukaslazari]

Someone did it on reddit. apparently it was around 7ms for 2.4ghz and 9~10ms for bluetooth

[@adelin081]

@@lukaslazari awesome! thanks!

[@TH15N4M315UN4V41L4BL]

Exactly what I was wondering

[@filmnerd7145]

Hey Russ, thanks for this review. I bought the 2.4 ghz model for my steam deck and i have to say i love it. It feels great and works till now totally fine in d-input. The connection is good and there is no recognizable input lag for me. If the controller could wake the deck up, i would have been in heaven.

[@yoruneko34]

were you able to make it work with x-input since steamOS 3.4 ?

[@filmnerd7145]

@@yoruneko34 didn't test it yet. D-input works out of the box

[@Chichirumiru]

@@yoruneko34 Both the Dongle and Bluetooth work great, if that is what you mean.

[@steffenmass]

Have you experienced any issues with double input? In Emulation Station on steam deck, every button is essentially tapped twice

[@gamergod9182]

I'd definitely go with the $70 version, even if you don't own a Switch. having gyro and BT available is a huge plus, and so are the hall effect sticks. and maybe I'm just lucky, but I never had any issues settings up Xinput controllers on Android devices.

[@carson5757]

Also the battery is much larger. 15 hours vs 22 hours play time.

[@MyurrDurr]

I think I'd prefer to have a dongle over paired with Bluetooth for the docked steam deck use case ... But yeah, for playing games, gyro is essential for me now in FPS games

[@Zanpaa]

@@MyurrDurr you can use the dongle too, the bluetooth model is both BT+2.4. however on 2.4GHz it doesn't have Gyro, and on Bluetooth it doesn't have analog triggers...

[@MyurrDurr]

@@Zanpaa No gyro on dongle? dafuq? IDC about analog triggers or not though, hmm

[@Goldstarman]

@@MyurrDurr It's because the bluetooth is dinput and the 2.4 ghz is xinput

[@soullos555]

I got the pricier model, mainly for the hall effect sticks. Longevity is worth the added price IMO (although I wish they had a replaceable battery like their Pro+ and Pro 2 models). For fun, I dusted off and booted up my old Windows 7 machine and to my surprise the controller works, dongle and wired (I don't have bluetooth on this PC) despite it being advertised as Win 10 and 11 only.

[@PapaBPoppin]

It's the sticks alone that have me lusting after the bt version (gyro is icing on the cake Questions, if you wouldn't mind answering Does the bt also include the dongle? And does the dock work as a dongle as someone else pointed out obout this 2.4-only model? (I'd prefer 2.4 for my use, and having a permanent dongle via the dock would be a mad bonus)

[@soullos555]

@@PapaBPoppin The bt does comes with the dongle as well. You have the choice of switching between bt or 2.4 modes. I haven't tested whether the dongle works while inside the dock if hooked up to the PC, but I hear that's a thing. When using bt, it is detected as a Switch controller, when using 2.4 or wired, it's detected at X-input.

[@lijahgil]

I would really like to see a version of this with the aligned stick or PlayStation layout. I would love to have hall affect sensors, trigger stops, and mechanical face buttons. I am looking to getting the buttons from Gulikit and putting that in my Pro2, but I am not to enthusiastic about swapping my thumbstick with a hall sensor but I would probably do that if/when I do get stik drift. 8BitDo really does make some really good controller, the quality feel, back buttons, software, and price just put it above nearly all others for me.

[@CrystallineLore]

preordered mine when they went up last week and I can't wait to get mine in, xbox-like design with the razer style charger stand bundled with it and hall sensor sticks... 8btido, wow

[@ChaoSJino]

I'll preface the following with this: I am a fan of 8bitdo products. I own some 7 different controllers from their various lines and models. I just want to mention, that 8bitDo actually offer a separate "dongle" accessory, which can pair with not only their own controllers, but a wide variety of other controllers as well. The dongle pairs once and stays paired unless you make it otherwise, even if you unplug it and place it into a different device. I have the older orange model, I don't know what they've done with the new black one, but it's my go-to solution for when I want to play on a machine with no bluetooth. Windows actually registers the dongle and controller as a wired X-box controller, which is also cool (I tested it with various modes of various 8bitdo controllers, it always registers as a wired xbox controller, also tested it with a switch pro controller). So if you are looking for a dongle experience, but do not wish to swap your fav controller for a new one - there are options, and I'm certain 8bitDo aren't the only ones who offer a product like that.

[@mishimaro5423]

I have the dongle you’re talking about. Unfortunately I couldn’t get it to pair with a new controller, so I’ve been leaving it in the dust for a while

[@ChaoSJino]

@@mishimaro5423 That's weird. I just jeep a dongle in my bag and grab a random controller if I've emptied my bag and it always works.

[@foorocker91]

I was just looking this up yesterday and couldn’t find anything about it. Russ you are always on the money!

[@ezekielgskeen8607]

thanks to your review of the 8BitDo 2.4GHz, just got mine a day after seeing your breakdown, feels awesome and plays awesome! Thank you! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 worth every penny!

[@jepoyburner]

the dock is the game changer. would pick this up for christmas. thanks for the review.

[@cubingbuzz1]

The dock is a nice touch but I think the shape of the controller might feel weird. I personally like the 8bit do pro 2 shape a little better

[@Bert_de_Wit]

Got the Pro 2 as well. It's a VERY good controller!

[@z3t4n]

8bitdo released an update for the 2.4gh version which makes it compatible with the switch on the dock, theres is a few steps you have to do to put the controller on switch mode. Dont know why but they only say this on the FAQ for this controller, not on the main page. Here is the steps. 1. Go to system settings--Controller and Sensors--Turn on [Pro Controller Wired Communication]. 2. Plug the 2.4g receiver into the Switch dock. 3. After turn on the controller(mode switch on D/X), press and hold [minus+LB] buttons for 5 seconds, the controller will enter in Switch mode after a short moment of vibration. Please note that NFC(amiibo), motion control, IR, HD rumble and wake up function are not supported.

[@minifluff201]

The dock also has a USB passthrough to the dongle.

[@Darqon505]

1:55 nope, I just got my Bluetooth edition of this controller. In Bluetooth mode it is Dinput, when using the dongle on 2.4GHz it is Xinput. Seems to be exactly the same as the dongle-only model, it just also has the Bluetooth and Switch compatibility

[@Chichirumiru]

You said in your video that the Ultimate Bluetooth can only connect to the SteamDeck via Bluetooth, not via Dongle. I have bought the same Controller and both Bluetooth and the Dongle work great, seems like Steam fixed it :)

[@Bry4nMW]

I have seen some other reviewers mention that the $70 BT version uses D-Input for Bluetooth mode, while X-Input for 2.4ghz. However, these cannot be changed and are locked to the respective connection.

[@Bert_de_Wit]

Wow! 8BitDo really makes some high quality controllers. I'm totally blown away on how they are embarrassing their Chinese competitors.

[@SensitiveBoysDads]

Aren't all 8bitdo controllers made in China?

[@Bert_de_Wit]

@@SensitiveBoysDads Absolutely. Let me rephrase what I said. They are embarrassing the OTHER Chinese competitors. 8BitDo is on Japanese and American quality levels. Very high quality.

[@graegoles8382]

@@Bert_de_Wit only thing that compares in the chinese market is the pro 2, but yeah pretty much

[@chronossage]

I wish they kept the easily replaceable battery and AA compatibility the SN30Pro/2 has. Honestly maybe they could just add hall effect joysticks to that controller. Also hall effect aside you don't want to forget the importance of the more expensive controller having a gyro.

[@LeoDavidson]

I wonder how well those charging pins and pads will hold up over time. I've had several wireless mice with similar setups and they always ended up being unreliable and needing constant cleaning. But then maybe it's different with mice being rubbed around on a desk all the time instead of controllers that are held. Hopefully these aren't like that, but it's made me much prefer either simple USB cables for charging or 'wireless' induction chargers. -- Looks like another cool 8BitDo stick, in any case. Their software and configurability is a real killer feature; especially being able to configure things via a phone while the device is still actively paired and being used on a gaming system (assuming it's like the older 8BitDo Pro I have).

[@wanggaard]

I bought the 8bitdo Xbox Wired controller a few months back for retro gameplay, and I was absolutely shocked that a wired controller would not work for the Nintendo Switch or the Nvidia Shield TV. I understand that companies have unique features in their controllers and also like captive audiences, but it is still disappointing that there is not one controller (or two) to rule them all.

[@Harshhaze]

I think you need a special USB adapter to make Xbox controllers work on Switch

[@igorR061]

I got the 2,4G version, cheaper and with the Xbox/PC layout buttons, yes, I bought new buttons for my Gulikit to make it "right", I could pay more for the BT version if I had the option of layout. I really like that dock, that´s a complete package, a lot better than connect a cable or worst change batteries, reason my Xbox controller is retired.

[@irkandcrew]

THATS AN 8BITDO CONTROLLER? That looks first party yo.

[@yoaiou]

They've gone a long way haven't day Been a big fan since the sn30pro+, I already ordered the Bluetooth Ultimate and I've heard nothing but praise. Really excited

[@Eduard0Nordestino]

@@yoaiou bought mine yesterday but it takes 30 days to delivery

[@irkandcrew]

@@yoaiou same bruv. SN30pro+ was the king for a long time

[@Zorro9713]

Exellent review as always! I'm kinda sad though that they've gotten rid of the exchangable battery...

[@passby8070]

btw, the 2.4ghz now uses hall effect joysticks. Have been using for a month, its a great controller for my PC games.

[@HoldMeForever]

I emailed 8BitDo and asked them if I can use the Bluetooth version with the 2.4G receiver and if I'd be limited to D-input then. Their response : "This product comes with a 2.4G receiver. You can use it to connect PC wirelessly." "Switch/D-Input/X-Input The mode can be changed through the receiver connection." Shout out to Jimmyi from 8BitDo Support!

[@TheFrenchy82]

I prefer the speed of 2.4Ghz rather the sloppy Bluetooth connection... it's a life changer when you play action games like shmups ....

[@corsinivideos]

Nice overview. Are you outputting at 4k over uSB-C here or via hdmi?

[@ellaquin]

The xbox one, and the xbox series x/s controllers actually have Hall Effect triggers, just like the KingKong 2 controller, and they feel amazing.

[@samgoff5289]

No they don't

[@ellaquin]

@@samgoff5289 Um, yes, they do, I have torn one open before

[@ellaquin]

@@samgoff5289 Do you have any evidence to state they dont?

[@ChamplainValleyRailSnapshots]

Glad to see the update where this is fixed. Just ordered one.

[@21N42Photo]

Steam deck owner here. This is great and will be getting soon

[@davidflegal4308]

Do not get this for Deck. It does not work. In D-Input mode the right stick is not picked up and the triggers are not analogue. X-Input mode does not work at all. This test in the video got lucky it doesnt use those inputs.

[@kellytownsend8116]

I got the more expensive one for steam deck. I have used it to play games using the dongle plugged into the dock. Everything works and doesn’t constantly lose Bluetooth connection like my other controllers did. I got the white one for 49.99 on Amazon. Black was 59.99

[@RyanParreno]

About using the controller with an Android device: I do use my wired controllers with my phone without a dock, using a dongle sized adapter to a female USB 2.0 connector. I suspect you don't absolutely need a dongle as much as just a physical connector

[@h4tzi35]

What an incredible review. Kudos man! Im not even kidding and not making comments like this often!

[@RetroGameCorps]

Thanks for watching!

[@kaiserfebo6867]

Hi Russ, seeing your Deck setup made me think: do you think you can make some sort of guide for the SD docked mode and optimal settings vs performance? Like in emulation and all that stuff. Because I noticed you don’t use fullscreen hacks in Dolphin while in handheld you suggested to use it. Hope it could be a new video idea. Love your content, bye :)

[@RetroGameCorps]

I'll see what I can do. For Dolphin I switch between 4:3 and 16:9 (or 16:10 in the case of the Steam Deck) based on my mood. Sometimes I like classic, sometimes I like blowing it up to widescreen :)

[@adinwalls]

Russ, I which of the more budget handhelds work with a dongle system like this? You’ve recommended the 8bitdo dongle in the past and I’m keen to get a budget handheld working in this way and then have the option to plug into my TV via HDMI. I’m thinking specifically of getting the RG552 or the Retroid Pocket 3 for this purpose.

[@RetroGameCorps]

That's a surprisingly complex question. It's less about the device and more about the firmware. For example, on the RG552, the stock (Batocera-based) OS will detect the controller just fine, I just tested it with the dongle and it works great (you have to map the buttons one time initially). By default it sets the 8bitdo controller as player 2 but it's very simple to go into the settings and swap back and forth, take only a moment in the menu once per gaming session. But on JELOS, it detects the new controller and maps the buttons, but after that they don't have a menu that allows you to set the controller as player 1. So you'd have to go into the RetroArch settings for each game and switch the input from the device to the controller, which gets annoying. Meanwhile on Android it will automatically pick up on the controller no problem, but some emulators behave differently when confronted with a new controller -- some will just work automatically (like RetroArch or PPSSPP), while others will need to be remapped every time. It's just an unfortunate side effect of Android-based handhelds, which are cobbled together by various emulators. For a good demo of the experience, check out the Odin Super Dock video I did earlier in the year, it can get quite messy.

[@greenprotag]

As far as I know, the Bluetooth version doesn't use the dongle for Switch. I am pretty sure it just works via bluetooth. That being said, I would use the dongle docked to my PC and connect the Bluetooth to my switch then just toggle between systems.

[@waynethang9034]

How did you get it working with the dongle? No one I've seen on Reddit or anywhere else has been able to get it working. Edit - I'm referring to the bluetooth version. You're using the 2.4. Wouldn't think it would matter but apparently it does. Just an FYI to potential buyers out there - the bluetooth version does NOT work with Steam Deck via the dongle. You have to connect it as a Switch controller which causes you to lose your analog triggers.

[@FoxbatStargazer]

hes using d-input which the bluetooth model doesnt have. I thought d-input was also limited to digital triggers which would make recommending this for steam deck a head scratcher.

[@Gojemba]

Seriously!!? I just ordered the Bluetooth version with dongle for my steam deck 😢

[@waynethang9034]

@@FoxbatStargazer Yeah. "Any version of this controller will not give you analog triggers on Steam Deck, buy it for Steam Deck!" lol

[@waynethang9034]

@@Gojemba I tried linking you to a Reddit thread but it isn't working, so just check for yourself. But yeah. And if you hook it up as a Switch controller(after some finagling), you lose analog triggers.

[@nb8c_fd]

The bluetooth version of the Ultimate has the same joysticks as the Kingkong 2 Pro, but the build quality of the Ultimate is leaps and bounds ahead of the Gulikit. The KK2 Pro has so many issues that I can't recommend it to anyone, and the 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth is the one to go for.

[@ThisIsEladM]

Great video, as always, Russ! One question I have is, can you connect multiple controllers to the same 2.4 GHz dongle?

[@solaris_cc4353]

Yeah that's what I was wondering too

[@Falsh125]

The Hall Effect sensors make the $70 option infinitely better and that's almost literal given that the magnetic setup prevents internal mechanical wear and tear (drifting) virtually forever!

[@AMSASH]

I love these controllers but honestly I’d like to see them make one in this exact style but with PlayStation layout as I much prefer that, I know they have some but I don’t really like them and they don’t have as many features

[@awright18]

I think they are trying to compete directly with the Switch Pro controller with the Bluetooth one, as it's priced the same.

[@David-ym2vk]

Same. I started using my switch pro controller on pc recently and it made me realize how much I'm used to the PS layout and I don't really care for the XBOX layout.

[@awright18]

@@David-ym2vk the 8bitdo Pro2 is pretty sweet and is PS style.

[@obvious_giraffe8386]

Or a ps5 controller has a ps layout for $10 less

[@llai8501]

I don't understand why you wouldn't just go the full Bluetooth version with the hall effect sticks. Those sticks will start drifting eventually and you'll have another remote in the bin. Not an issue with the BT version, not to mention more connectivity options. The limiting factor is price but we are talking $25usd? Most of us spend that or more on coffee a week.

[@timur7381]

Hmm. I would definitely buy the hall stick version if it kept the 2.4hz dongle. Bluetooth adds so much latency.. since the xbox wireless dongle doesn't work with the steam deck for some reason, im definitely on the market to buy a new controller, but so far i haven't found the perfect one

[@israelvallejorodenas8978]

I got a SN30+ Pro as a Christmas present a few years ago and is my favorite controller without a doubt. I use it mainly with my Switch and pi and I really enjoy it. This new iteration looks awesome!

[@saiyanraoh5109]

I got the Bluetooth version of this. Knowing 8bitdo, xinput will be patched in. Nothing is preventing this but the software. The controller is definitely capable. One more bonus of Bluetooth version is that it’s the first controller besides Nintendos own pro controller that will wake up the Switch from sleep mode. I love this controller!

[@daniel4210]

FYI the GuliKit KingKong 2 Pro Controller (yes, that's a ridiculous name) also wakes up the Switch from sleep.

[@lioreuz]

I had the SN30 Xbox version and XINPUT never came, really dissapointed

[@Dima26363]

Bro, ixmput on 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth work? With Bluetooth or 2.4?

[@christianmartinez5173]

I had the Bluetooth version preordered for last month and it was supposed to be delivered Monday. Ended up cancelling it and though about buying this version, but didn’t pull the trigger. Now I see this and am completely second guessing LOL

[@MathieuCruzel]

Your review is just perfect, I was going for the Bluetooth version for the HAL effect joysticks but this review and the comments below changed my mind just for the fact you can just plug the dock and passthrough and the D-Input signal. Very insighfull

[@RetroGameCorps]

Glad I could help!

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

I got one, and I never thought of using it with my Deck in 2.4ghz mode, I definitely will.

[@shinOIchan]

Just got myself a F40 edition. I wished the grip handles were a bit longer, like SN30+. The rest is great especially the analog stick, super precise and smooth.

[@thelionking2000cn]

It support switch, you have to plug the reciever into switch dock. Speaking of gyro, there is a bluetooth version that perfectly supports switch with gyro.

[@jshowe95]

Great review, but my eyes must be broken. So many times in this video could not convince myself that the controller was pink and not some off white lmao

[@LogicProphet]

I got the more expensive model. It lets you play the switch via bluetooth and shaking the controller turns your switch on.If you have the dock and dongle connected to the PC you just play wirelessly. I wish I could connect to my PC via bluetooth without the dongle and use the dongle on my PS4 so I can use it on my PC ,switch, and PS4 with just a press of a button and flick of the wrist.

[@remymartin15]

Thank you for the detailed controller review. I’ve recently got a gaming laptop and bring it to work. Playing both current Forza games works great with my regular Xbox controller but if I want to play Halo infinite or later COD games on gamepass or shooters on in general it’s not the best and not looking to bring my Elite 2 out the house and risk dropping and breaking it on tile floors. I remembered the company 8bitdo and the fact I can adjust the triggers is what I need. I wish it was on the fly like the Elite 2 controller or newer PS5 pro controller. Do you mind sharing how good the trigger feels when you change them? Do they feel like an Elite 2 controller or what? Now all I need is 8bitdo to make this same exact controller well the $70 one for the PS5 and I’ll be complete.

[@rafadono]

If they make a new version of the 69.99 USD one with the missing features of the other, this controller will be perfect (at least for me)

[@siskavard]

These would've been a day 1 purchase for me if the analogue sticks weren't offset. I prefer the Playstation layout like on the Pro 2.

[@ojwales]

For me, when using the dongle with the steam deck dock (as the title of this video suggests,) the deck and/or certain software confuses the right analog stick with the left analog trigger. That is to say, I have to tilt the right stick to get left trigger functions in-game and the left trigger isn't doing anything as far as I can tell. Sometimes the left trigger works correctly though! Any idea what that's about?

[@bibouwalid1251]

If you had to choose between 8bitdo 2.4G and king kong pro 2, which one would you choose and why?

[@OpoSai]

Now I know what I'm getting for Christmas to pair with my AYN Odin

[@SpiderLuke]

The Hall Effect analog sticks on the Switch more expensive layout is a dealbreaker. I don’t know why anyone would want the inferior sticks if the better ones exist.

[@joaopedroboechat1253]

Probably going for this one. I have been using a PS4 controller for PC gaming but it's so annoying that you have to have a third party software to make it X input and then a lot of games won't have the proper button layout. On top of that, I can't use it and use a bluetooth headphone because both devices interference with each other. The 2.4g connection will come in hand!

[@piercingrain8809]

I would recommend the bluetooth version since the bluetooth version uses magnetic hall effect sensors for the joy stick.

[@rachelstopka4245]

Does it work with Xbox

[@piercingrain8809]

@@rachelstopka4245 both versions don't work on Xbox.

[@chainjail4834]

Wasn't there problem with the Bluetooth version or it's fixed?

[@steel5897]

Why would anyone call you crazy for preferring 2.4ghz? Bluetooth is absolute garbage. Nothing but issues with it for most of my life. From things refusing to pair for no reason, disconnects, latency... Those 8bitdo dongles are life savers!

[@michaelsy.]

Hi! If you dont consider the dock and 2.4ghz. Would you say the 8bit is still better then the gulikit overall? Hand feel, build quality, battery size, etc. I like the look of the gulikit but unless it was better as a controller then it wouldnt justify missing the dock and 2.4. Edit: what wire is the dock? Usb A-C or USB C-C?

[@ZTriggerGaming]

I love using Steam Input to add gyroscope controls to my gams. That extra level of fine tuning feels great in a lot of cases. For that reason, I would love the Bluetooth version…. However… the Bluetooth version has the Nintendo style A/B layout and that is an absolute dealbreaker for me. I really wish I could have the best of both worlds.

[@hexeffex2426]

I know this is late an you probs already figured this out but you can change the input binding in the software to make it like a regular Xbox controller

[@BolusInfernalis]

Do you mean in the software? Or in steam deck options?

[@hexeffex2426]

@@BolusInfernalis to remap inputs you have to use their software which you download but you can change the game controller settings on your steam deck to make a=b and b=a but I haven't done that personally.

[@ZaberfangX]

I am still holding out on a steam controller 2, as right now I am using ps5 controller as my main. Only problem at the end is the software if your steam deck only pc around your house, the software can become useless if does not work with in wine.

[@dandnguyen]

I'm using the OG Steam Controllers I just picked up used.

[@ZaberfangX]

@@dandnguyen I got 2 of them, some games need a 2nd joy stick, so I stop using it for abit. I try to use the touch pad as 2nd joy stick, it didn't work so well.

[@dandnguyen]

@@ZaberfangX Ah yeah, I don’t use the second joystick a ton but I just use my Pro+ for that and 2D games (dpad placement).

[@erik9358]

Am I wrong or didn’t you upload a video on steam deck recently on why you prefer it over other handhelds ? Can’t find it on my history and I just watched it a few hours ago I believe it said like 3 days ago ?

[@RetroGameCorps]

That was probably Taki Udon's recent Steam Deck video.

[@erik9358]

@@RetroGameCorps Yes it was ! My apologies!! Keep up the great work !

[@TechiesUnofficial]

Please make a video comparing Ultimate with previous controller (Pro2). Let us know which one is for which type of player. Thanks!

[@alychace]

weirdly enough, the buttons are also different between the two. the cheaper 2.4ghz model has xbox style face buttons, the more expensive version has nintendo style. kinda confusing if you’re switching from steam deck portable to docked.

[@DaveSimonH]

It feels a little odd that my 8bitdo Pro2 seems more feature rich vs the 'Ultimate' controllers. The Pro2 doesnt have 2.4GHz or a dock, but can be used in bluetooth & wired modes and it can be easily switched with the manual toggle on the back; Switch, Apple/Mac, D-input & X-input. Each with their own set of profiles. I'm able to use my Pro2 with Switch, PC & my android phone, vs the £40 Ultimate losing Switch Support, or paying £60 for the bluetooth model and losing D-input? For comparison, the Pro 2 is between £36 & £42 on Amazon UK, depending on the colour (I personally got the grey one when it was just £32 in June). Even if it was the exact same features carried over, losing the replaceable battery (& AA option) for an inbuilt battery, that alone would be enough to put me off. Sure you are getting the dock, 2.4GHz and hall effect sticks, but at the cost of the bump in price and losing features.

[@lnkd61]

Wish I saw this video before buying the Bluetooth version. The Bluetooth version will only work with the Steam Deck while it's in Bluetooth and being recognized as a Switch Pro Controller. It's also unfortunate that the 2.4 ghz doesn't have some of the nice perks such as hall effect sticks or gyro.

[@davidgabay9398]

I recently got it and I love it, can't believe it only costs 40$

[@VentusLionheart]

I'll probably get both. The 2.4 dongle version for my PC and Steam Deck and the Bluetooth version for the switch. I want the controller face buttons to match exactly for the deck and the switch so I don't get confused during gameplay lol

[@estebanod]

The bluetooth version also comes with a 2.4GHz dongle

[@JPSonic2011]

So currently the D-Input mode does not let the triggers or right stick work at all. And X-Input is a complete no go. I'm pretty disappointed with 8BitDo on this controller considering I had the exact same thought process as you. Now it's just going to be relegated to my gaming rig instead until either Steam or 8BitDo decide to implement things properly for this controller.

[@blackswordsmanguts]

I wish the 2.4hz only version had hall effect sensors. Bizarre choice not to include it.

[@dylancole3430]

They have them now and the price didn't increase

[@steffenmass]

Have you experienced issues with double input? It appears to only happen in Emulation Station. Any idea on fixes?

[@themisterface]

They've updated the 2.4g version to have Hall Effect sticks now!

[@hpttg8685]

In your review, I noticed you mention that you don't use the super dock for the AYN Odin. I already own the super dock and am wondering if this controller would work with it?

[@HiTechLoLife]

Wait you're telling me the 2.4ghz version doesn't have hall effects? That's a major bummer :

[@nathangillmore5064]

Thanks so much for this review, I'd been wondering about this, now it's a no brainer. Love your channel, btw, keep up the good work!

[@sunnygalli]

The black king kong 2 pro controller you have, you can buy a kit to swap between the xbox and nintendo style face buttons.

[@Anna_Rae]

I don’t have the Bluetooth version yet, but I imagine it’ll work fine on the steam deck since it supports switch controllers. You’d gain gyro but lose analog triggers though.

[@dandnguyen]

The Pro lineup doesn't work in Switch mode on the Deck correctly.

[@Guitario666]

Great Review, maybe add some weights to the bottom of the dock?

[@ichderfisch_]

My first thought: If I have a usb-wired-dock for charging, give it also the functionality of “being” the dongle by itself, because why not. At least as an option.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Someone pointed out to me today that if you leave the dongle inside the 8bitDo dock’s holster it will work as a passthrough dongle. So your idea already works!

[@ichderfisch_]

@@RetroGameCorps Oh, that's nice.

[@BrentMaxwellian]

Thanks! Amazing review, especially against the Bluetooth version and the Gulikit.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Thanks! I'm working on a deep-dive comparison between the Ultimate controllers, should have it out soon!

[@craftmaker8794]

Do you need to remove vibrate for the controller on the Steam Deck in order for it to work properly? I'm having this issue with other controllers.

[@devoltar]

The main problem with 8bitdo controllers is stick drift, which significantly shortens their life span, so no, this is definitely not the one to get. You WANT the bluetooth one for the hall sensors specifically, or to wait until they release a new model with both input modes and hall sensors together. Personally I'm going to wait, and also hope they make one with 4 back buttons and trigger stops. If they do that they will easily trounce the Xbox Elite or force MS to fix it.

[@celzolsen8988]

this one has hall sensors though so stick drift shouldn't be an issue

[@devoltar]

@@celzolsen8988 It does not, the 2.4 ghz model does not, the bluetooth model does. People have torn them down and verified already. It's also discussed right in the video.

[@celzolsen8988]

@@devoltar what about the wired version?

[@devoltar]

@@celzolsen8988 Not yet unfortunately, I have one, an it is a great controller for the price, but if you are looking for something that's a bit more robust in the long term I'd wait for the next iteration. 8bitdo is improving and releasing new versions of their controllers very rapidly, and this partnership with Gulikit for the hall sensors is new with the Bluetooth controller. I'm sure they will do more. If you can't wait, you can still be happy in the fact that it's FAR cheaper to replace than something like an elite.

[@celzolsen8988]

@@devoltar what do you mean though? the controller isn't out yet. It gets released in November? I think there are 2 different ultimate wireds...

[@carlosvence]

4:47 Something about the way he took away that plastic off🤔 don't know... but, damn....

[@yoruneko34]

glad I watched this review before buying!

[@marccarter1350]

I have an 8bitdo arcade stick which i love. I might get this for my Steam deck!

[@Kojo220]

@retrogamecorps did you have to do anything special for this controller to work with the Odin? It's not working for me. I got this for Christmas because I saw it work in your video.

[@kevincampos6394]

Wouldn’t 40$ version also work with switch in docked mode tho? Also do you prefer the 8bit pro over an Xbox elite control for steam deck? I have a few 8bits and love ‘em jus looking for a new beast for my steam deck.

[@jaystapes3086]

The blutooth one uses those hall sensor sticks that gulikit uses so the bluetooth ones sticks will never drift.

[@bitterkeit85]

Just bought one after watching your review, but didn't notice it was a year old one 🙁