911 Call Details: Ruby Franke's Son Turns to Neighbor for Help (8 Passengers)

[@amoodyfrog]

The fact that the boy said he was tied up because it was his fault, completely broke me. This will stay with him probably his whole life. This is trauma that won't go away. I feel for them.

[@tegantalks9612]

Have you seen the interview Jessi Hildebrandt, Jody’s niece gave? Apparently Jody’s MO is to tie up children, isolate them, torture them, and gaslight them into believing they did things they didn’t do and then forcing them to confess. She’s also a master manipulator and has been doing this for years. These kids were also in Jody’s care when they escaped. Ruby is bad but more attention needs to be on Jody because she is the bigger monster here.

[@nofacenofacetrinity]

@@tegantalks9612 so sadistic… she clearly gets off in some way from hurting children. Ruby is just as bad for seeing eye to eye with her

[@MxPx77]

Listening to an old man break down in tears at the sight of a child’s condition is gut wrenching.

[@L.L.Cool.T]

Keep in mind that what Jodi and Ruby consider “porn” is not the same as what we would consider pornography. For example, Ruby considers Flo Rida’s song “Flo” as hard core porn. Women in bikinis is “porn” to them. Jodi has destroyed the reputations of several Mormon men in divorce proceedings by accusing them of consuming “porn” and s*xually “assaulting” others, not unlike what Ruby is accusing her own child(ren) of doing.

[@BritneyRamirez22]

Wait i didnt even think about this! Her idea of porn IS vastly different.

[@veronica5lmaa]

Did you see Jodi's niece interview about how when she was in her aunt's “care”, Jodi used TO DREAM that the niece was masturbating, and she would punish the girl, and she denied her tampons and basic hygiene's items. The girl didn't even know what masturbating was. Those women are psychopaths, awful monsters.

[@emofems]

I just listened Jodi's niece's interview on KUTV 2 News Salt Lake City channel, and it makes so much sense why the boy thought his situation was his fault and why Jodi & Ruby uses sexual things as reason why to punish and control a child. I'm so glad she defends the kid, and I do hope these people get a proper sentence and the dad will not get the custody of the children.

[@Tionaintown876]

@L.L.Cool.T How do you know that "Ruby considers Flo Rida’s song “Flo” as hard core porn" and "Women in bikinis is “porn” to them", as you said? I'm genuinely curious to know where she said this or how you came to that conclusion. Flow Rida doesn't have a song titled "Flo". At least not one that I could find online

[@bowties8842]

​​@@Tionaintown876I think OP is talking about flo rida's song "Low" (apple bottom jeans). i remember that ruby went to a school principal to complain about one of her kid's teacher having the class do a flash mob or some sort of performance to a song she thought was too inappropriate edit: here's a video talking about it kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4PFmWV5hq2ef5osi=cGy_92KrNfJPUM_H

[@MusicalK93]

I've heard the call a few times now, and every time the man chokes up, I can't help but cry. Those poor children have suffered and endured so much. 😔

[@DrDANKize]

You didn’t cry once. Stop lying

[@TwoBearsBBX]

same here, it’s so heartbreaking to hear it, especially how the neighbor can’t even say the words because it’s so fucked up

[@irenareena]

​@@DrDANKizeyour comment is disgusting

[@RedLineShortFilms]

​@@DrDANKizeSome people on here have hearts, we know you don't have any, it's nothing to brag about. I was treated similarly by my parents, its really hard.

[@meganowens]

Oh God hearing that man, who sounds older and very matter of fact, just break trying to describe this child was really shocking.

[@bananochloe]

I hope family channel will have new laws after this story. Horrible people. I hope the kids are safe..

[@TheDarkLord648]

I think we should ban posting children on social media for profit

[@awndraya]

Hopefully! I hope this changes things officially AT LEAST in the state of Utah. And hopefully it will create a domino effect

[@shelbyseitzinger927]

Just try not to imagine how many families are like this that don't self-report

[@maes2644]

KZbin won't because it makes them money

[@FukaiKokoro]

@maes2644 It's not KZbin's problem or responsibility. It's a states issue. Even Hollywood kids need better protections. I also think pageant kids need protects because they have none currently. Overall the child labor laws need to be majorly overhauled. If KZbin made a rule we all know that would be horrible and backfire. Because weve seen it time and time again where a new rule comes outm it's not clear and some people get targeted wrongly and other people get away with it.

[@Justhppy2behere]

2:02 anyone who’s ever been a victim of childhood abuse knows the feeling of contemplating calling 911 as a child. small children know more than you think & are capable of so much more than we give them credit for.

[@awndraya]

Yup. I was 12 myself. And even after CPS never hit me back since they first went to my house. It's been 10 yrs. But considering the evidence I hope they actually take this situation better than mine. I definitely hate that it takes serious evidence like this for them to care an ounce.

[@AHippieFrom1969]

My parents always told me that I would get taken away from them and it scared me because I was trauma bonded to them. It’s horrible how people treat kids and then guilt them into not saying anything.

[@kattatatatat6361]

​@AHippieFrom1969 same, and my parents always said no one would believe me because I was a bad kid and they would see I was just misbehaving

[@paulgallagher5889]

That neighbor is a true hero! Talk about being recruited for a mission you never asked for, and then rising to the occasion!!! Breaks my heart to hear him choke up and avoid negative words when trying to get the story from the kid. What an absolute TITAN of a man to be so genuine and kind and willing to provide assistance!!!

[@nellieshoals]

I'm not crying................ 😭😭😭

[@MrNewtube25]

As a man that's a bit older and has been in the military, I may come off as a hard ass sometimes but I mean it when I say I would do absolutely anything to help a child. I don't care if the kid is completely unknown to me, I have seen enough fucked up things to know that every child is innocent and deserves love and assistance whenever the world is coming down on them.

[@samspetifore9875]

The fact that he has the wherewithal to not use terms associated with abuse or SA because the child is right next to him shows to me he handled the situation perfectly. So sad what has happened though...

[@HannahTrexler]

It’s how Russell is SO used to being abused by his voice he doesn’t sound shook up or distressed

[@thekidzcantfathom]

It really hurt to hear the kid say that everything that happened to him was his "fault". Ruby really conditioned him....

[@tegantalks9612]

You guys need to watch the interview with Jessi, Jody’s niece. Apparently all the stuff that happened to these kids is Jody’s MO. Jessi talks about how when she was living with Jody, Jody basically tortured her and gaslighted her into confessing to things she didn’t do. She said that Ruby accusing her 12 year old of SA and p*rn addiction are exactly things the Jody accused Jessi of and gaslighted her into believing she had done when she lived with Jody. She also admitted the restraints made of duct tape and the isolation were also tactics used by Jody.

[@angryadri]

it’s crazy it took this long for them to get caught when it was all documented on KZbin

[@anaalicia5029]

That boy not having a bed for 7 months -oh, sorry ‘bed privileges’

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

I wish we could get the people who viewed it to!

[@elnic999]

She stopped posting the kids when she joined connections.. this kind of abuse was hidden until now. The oldest daughter is trying to sue CPS for all the times the didn’t intervene

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

@@elnic999 She deserves most amount of money for the labor of living under that terrible cretin!

[@lisettetorres2689]

Some channels reported their abuse long ago too. I think Sloan posted a video about 8 passengers a long while back..

[@Evelyn_Okay]

She's so good at her job. She knew exactly when to cut him off and redirect his focus before he broke down and scared away the child

[@awndraya]

As a 12 yr old who had to call the cops on my own parent, ik how much the CPS rlly DOESNT care about child situations. After they came to my house they never followed up again. I hope these kids are treated with the care that i wish i had. Ill never u derstand why they need such hardcore evidence to care at this level

[@ATAT-zo7wx]

The call was honestly quite hard to listen to

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

Actually tho. The guy in the call sounds incredibly sad and disgusted that someone would do something like this to a kid.

[@RookieAssassin]

The fact that the kid said it was his fault broke my heart.. these kids are so manipulated to think everything bad the parents and "business partner" did to them is their fault. I so hope they go to a good home where they are truly loved and taken care of.

[@DrDANKize]

What was hard to listen to? Your acting like there’s kids screaming for help in the background or something. Stop lying

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

@@DrDANKize there doesn’t have to be screaming bloody murder for something to be hard to listen to. Silence can also be pretty hard to listen for some people. But basically it’s the tone of the man’s voice that make it hard to listen. You can tell he’s very sad because of the situation the child is in. We can’t see what the kid looks like but from the tone of his voice, the sadness portrayed by it, you can tell the kid is in a terrible state. That’s why it’s hard to listen to.

[@nxcromancyy]

@@DrDANKizeit’s hard to listen to because of how horrible it is. have some sympathy for people, not everybody is completely desensitized. it IS horrible and it IS hard to listen to.

[@LoafMather]

These poor kids. This sounds like a nightmare

[@maddiewetter6572]

This is so messed up but unfortunately its not the first time I've heard of this kind of thing. We had two boys whose parents chained them up in the basement for years before anyone figured it out. The parents were both teachers and very active in the church. It shook our whole community. I can't understand why people do this.

[@awndraya]

Wow! I can't even believe this myself

[@maddiewetter6572]

@andread9976 Right?? It really came out of left field. My sister went to church with the kids, and she said they were always really quiet, but she never suspected it.

[@Giovannax427]

a lot of the time it’s because they’re taking their power back in adulthood and abusing their kids the same way their parents abused them. it’s sick. cycle of abuse

[@joellezima3506]

So I want to give a little bit of context: Jodi is the main evil in this particular scenario. She’s the one that was holding the kids, Ruby most likely dropped her kids off for Jodi to “handle”. So based on what Jodi’s niece said in an interview , what Jodi does is use religious manipulation and abuse to handle what she considers “sexual deviance”. Which would explain why his mom told the court he literally molested other kids and needed to be tied up. PERSONALLY, even from my own experience with religious manipulation, I believe it’s completely made up, and based on their beliefs they’re forcing the kid to “own up” to what is most likely non existent sexual behavior. She accused him of watching porn since he was THREE, which doesn’t even make sense. I think this is a horribly evil case of two members of a church using its doctrines, taking them too far, and using them to control and abuse children to make them obedient.

[@anaalicia5029]

The righteous condemnation of a three yo, I hope there’s a hell for these two women AND the dad. Sorry you experienced this yourself

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

@@anaalicia5029 they would enjoy the suffering around them too much. No, they just deserve to be utterly STOPPED!

[@joellezima3506]

@@anaalicia5029 I haven’t experienced anything even close to this bad, thank goodness. Just the typical southern Baptist way of looking at sexuality, but it is so easy for people to use that as a weapon

[@jgnore]

I hate when people use God and God’s word as an excuse to do evil when He is nothing but love. His law is to love and care for one another. These people turn others away from God and Ruby’s kids will most likely grow up to despise God and the Bible because of it. I mean, I don’t blame them considering that’s what they’ve been shown to be “Christian love”. But God is not like these people. They are false prophets. Ruby and Jodi are truly evil.

[@skippythealien9627]

@@jgnore I'm a Christian too but the very real problem is that there are a lot of sick people out there who really need mental help, and they don't get help and use religion to do some horrifying and evil things or we have people in power who abuse it in terrible ways. My ex-pastor was part of a cover-up with a church down at the Univ. of Illinois. It's absolutely sick what they kept secret for years. And i left my church a while ago but i've been hearing stories that my ex-pastor is trying to gaslight people into thinking he did nothing wrong and that others are wrong for calling them out. very depressing

[@jenniferberger2005]

Ruby met Jodi because Jodi was treating her oldest son chad There were 4 kids in the home The Mormon church for years endorsed Jodi And you guys should see what Jodi's niece is alleging It seems Jody has a pattern of doing these things

[@steve94183]

As evil as Ruby is, Jodi seems even worse. The full interview with her niece is very disturbing.

[@WildBerryAura]

i am so grateful this info has gone into national news, there are sadly a lot of mormon families like hers in utah and idaho. i knew kids who got punished for all sorts of crazy shit and made to feel like it was their fault. you often do not have a good experience growing up in utah non lds unless you live in the bigger cities. i specifically remember going to a school in provo utah and had a bully who went to my principal's lds church. my principal would not believe me even after a teacher saw the boy hurting me all because "that boy is a good lds child and would never do that!". that is one of the reasons this stuff gets so out of hand, people do not report it and do their best to hide that they know what is going on

[@tachitach_]

I think international even, cause I'm Indonesian and I know about this, it's on my fyp for awhile now

[@WildBerryAura]

hopefully more will start seeing mormonism for what it is soon

[@Ahmad67475]

Those poor children! The poor baby blamed himself! She is so sick!

[@hopeadler507]

God bless the man who found them. God. Imagine being a parent and neglecting your children so badly that you make a grown man cry at the sight of your child?! She’s definitely having another child as soon as she can.

[@Somebody9666]

Found them? who? Cps did nothing and it was the brother who saved himself and his sister after going over and asking a neighbour for help.

[@anaalicia5029]

I was ecstatic when I heard she was arrested, I’ve hated her for years.

[@tegantalks9612]

Just wanna say, if an abused child came to my house and their abuser was running around looking for them, I would hide them and fight to keep that poor baby protected.

[@KooisthereincarnationofDIANA]

You have to be some sort of evil to have your actions make a grown man cry! I feel so bad for those children. Ruby Franke is evil PERSONIFIED.

[@tonyreyes3780]

Anyone who starts a family channel is automatically suspect in my opinion. Hell, anyone who watches them is “off” in my book

[@mustlovemaddy]

I've ben following the 8 passengers craziness for years now and am NOT surprised that this happened. I am shocked it took so long for something like to this have come out. :(

[@FukaiKokoro]

The US needs to do a complete and Total overhaul on child labor. Including Hollywood kids, pageant kids and social media kids. And make it way tougher and more protective.

[@spaceykc]

Monetized family channels should be illegal

[@nickvaldez2500]

Is it just me or does it sound like the man on the phone starts crying right before he says “he’s been detained”

[@emilyr8323]

This kid was the sweetest kid of all of them. Never met someone he didn't make his friend

[@randomvenessa6460]

the kid is so scarred that he got help, the kid is back tracking and saying like "no we're fine". that breaks my heart cause all he can think about is how much trouble he is going to be in :(((

[@ThePhasesofaRubyMoon]

From what I understand, the Mormon church connected them when she was looking for help with her oldest son (therapy). The Mormon church endorses Jodi Hildebrandt as a legit therapist even after her torturing her niece and both the church and Jodi completely ruined another man's life after connecting him up with Jodi. His story is just as horrific. He was a survivor of sexual abuse in the boy scouts and the Mormon church - went to seek treatment in therapy when he had martial issues. The church recommended Jodi because they knew she could break him and keep him from going after the church legally for the abuse and opening up and telling his story. He was the reason why she lost her therapist license. She breeched therapist client privacy laws. She later got her license back and was able to continue to destroy lives. Details are still coming out about Jodi, but for real she is a monster that shouldn't fade into the background of this scandal with Ruby Franke. It's all unimaginably awful - the innocent lives they've both ruined. I just pray the parents they've given advice to aren't literally torturing their kids like these pieces of sh*t human beings did. I hope they have better sense and a beating heart that loves and protects children from this sick toxic religious bullshit. I'm a survivor of captivity and torture. It changes you in ways people can't possibly fathom. Even I struggle to understand how it's changed me, but I've learned to love myself through the twisted brainwashing I've suffered. I hope these kids find nothing but kindness, love and support for the rest of their lives and can heal in whatever way they want to and are able to. 💗🕯️💗

[@epicleak]

child trauma is no fucking joke man, i’ve heard of kids growing up, moving on having their own kids, & still end up killing themselves because they just cannot handle it anymore. it does something to you. i really hope these kids the best in their future

[@titianarosa3396]

This actually reminds me of the clips we have seen of Colleen Ballinger as Miranda, pointing to kids and shouting "this is porn". The Ballingers were brought up were strict something religious. Just an interesting parallel. Somehow always damaging.

[@bluebridgette]

this is so terrible i feel so bad for those poor innocent children

[@wunderweiss]

Jodi Hildebrandt's niece said that her aunt was on a referral list in the Mormon church for counselors. That's how they met. Jodi was the oldest son's counselor.

[@LovealwaysCarol]

He also saved his sister’s life.

[@jaimereynolds258]

Heartbreaking 😢 Glad the boy was able to escape for help. Very brave ❤ Do away with family channels.

[@izizxoxo]

I think these types of people have a lot of kids for income reasons, but also they use them like slaves. Ruby’s children did every chore in her house while she laid back.

[@karasmusic123]

I wish I could watch this, but I'm afraid I'd have panic attack.

[@smelmevans]

dude this story is bigger than just this situation. you guys need to look into the business partner! she has been abusing kids for 15+ years

[@emilyr8323]

I remember when this woman took her family to October fest and was shocked that people were drinking beer

[@Sonicsis]

The caller trying to keep it together broke my heart. Glad he did an amazing job.

[@saranin3091]

My mother did the same to me 5 years ago. I ran barefoot, bloody and injured to a nearby friends house and called the police. I was contemplating wether I should snitch on my mother but that just shows how much brainwashing they put you through. I’m also estranged from my siblings because she doesn’t allow them to talk to me. I don’t wish this on my worst enemy. Truly

[@1308Scrabble]

This is just so so so horrific and triggering, I can't watch it but I already know enough details. Those poor children, I hope they get the absolute best care and support going forward ❤

[@mirrojas]

They met through LDS church & community. Jodi works with many church’s in the area. Y’all gotta dig deeper into Jodi. Her niece just did a podcast on Mormon stories. Highly recommend!!

[@sarahbelle6069]

I love that they aren’t catching any breaks so far & staying in jail without bail 👏🏼

[@AHippieFrom1969]

This makes me so sad because I used to watch 8 passengers before I caught onto what was going on and I’m so sad for Russell and Eve (Russell is definitely the one who approached the neighbors). That boy was a sweet child and clearly struggled with anxiety due to how Ruby treated him. I hate that woman.

[@robitvideo]

Wow yeah, nothing could have prepared me for hearing that man cry on the phone to 911. That is absolutely horrible. Ugh that totally wrecked me, i hope the best for those poor children. Nobody asks to be born, the very least you can do for your child is just unconditionally love them.

[@FunnyFace-wq6vy]

I have a daughter that is going to be born in February hearing and seeing this story it hurts so bad and the fact that it went on for so long and nobody did anything blows my mind

[@cb-9938]

You're sitting at home and a child covered in bruises, had cuts from being tied up and was dehydrated and starving. Bangs on your door asking you to call the police for him.......... I couldn't imagine the concern, confusion and anger you'd knowing feel that someone did that to the kid......Only to learn it was the parent and she saw fit to record and post her despicable behavior

[@pappaOfswe]

12:30 Just so that ethan knows he didnt go too far. I would go so much further with my wishes of pain and dispai.... (button press)

[@jgr_lilli_]

Hearing RF's little voice in the back of the call breaks my heart. It reminds me of how his big brother sounded when I used to watch 8Passengers several years ago. None of the children deserved what was done to them.

[@nellieshoals]

Totally flat, disconnected affect 💔💔😢

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

I wonder how many people are going to try to justify these parent’s behaviors in the comments! There is no atonement for what they’ve done…

[@headfangs]

there's a lot of insight into how her Mormonism factors into this abusive situation on the recent Fundie Fridays interview with JordanandMcKay (ex Mormons). Especially amongst Utah Mormons, there is SUCH a cultural focus on being the perfect skinny blond mom with little perfectly-behaved blond children, so her almost giddy focus on how strict she is with her children just comes off as "I'm SUCH a better mom than you, look at how many punishments I can dole out." plus some obvious narcissism.

[@catfood233]

I hadn’t heard this call like in its entirety I had heard snippets. The man getting upset on this call is just so awful. The child blaming himself too is just heard breaking.

[@Sym-ge9te]

This was so so so upsetting God. I can’t even imagine the fact that there’s so many of these kids around the world.

[@VG-ul5sq]

Awe I cried too when he got choked up

[@jedimasterspidermad5173]

That mom is crazy

[@connorturk8736]

Ur looking good man can tel u been exercising I’m happy that ur getting back in the healthy happy lifestyle yo

[@joshizfly]

Youll definitely miss the opportunity to say you were wrong though, aye Ethan?

[@dominiquesiwulich4746]

Love how real u are

[@WellieSong]

The neighbour's wife knew exactly how to spell her name. They all knew they were terrible people. This is systemic

[@TVs_Brent]

Well theres some shit thatll ruin your day

[@SinForTheSaint]

I feel like if this happened to me and i survived without them being in trouble, when i was of age i would come with some john wick vengeance

[@Kraftyklaudette]

Evil tends to find evil. And I hope she gets what's coming to her and her stupid friend. Even the dad needs to be investigated because I'm sure he knows how stupid their rules wr and what was going on after he left

[@michaeljacksin9367]

this is when I just pray that karma is real and everything will even out

[@neoguy2809]

Straight out of a Jeffrey Dahmer documentary

[@akashassmuk]

What about the father? He just let them do this to his own children.

[@kerrahinrichs1891]

How old was the child?

[@magicconchhh]

I don't know if anyone here did some sleuthing on her family, but after some digging, I found that Ruby's parents are doing a f*king LDS church mission in Serbia. Idk, I just find that sh*t so ironic.

[@nyanthony]

how did these two monsters find each other? the church of jesus christ of latter day saints

[@miesy8435]

i’m so early this feels illegal

[@cynthiacels8051]

right i keep instinctively going to scroll the comments and there are like 2 😭

[@HuffdrewPaint]

10:48 I could fucking scream.

[@kl0kl020]

Reminds me of the turbin family.

[@swedishmeatball4382]

Turpin

[@znzeth]

I love this show

[@meep5013]

Dude you’re like a week late with all this content.

[@LoganLoonTV]

Ofc they are Utah based.

[@JohannenJohnson-li3qz]

Kai out !

[@montecarlo4974]

The 911 jokes gotta stop man

[@baxter_canada_dry8182]

Love this channel. Not loving this content….why is everyone going into so much detail…..

[@KATSUvo]

4hrs ago... YES THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED

[@soicyxemmaa]

never been this early b4 🥰

[@marinablack181]

Ozempic going hard

[@JohannenJohnson-li3qz]

Ethan out !!

[@nadiamontalvo7822]

Why do people watch Ethan? Something is off with him. The joke making and what he says isn’t matching his tone or behavior. Does he actually have empathy for these children

[@choosnau]

He doesn't have to break down in tears to show he cares. He's covering the story and keeping it to facts

[@em84c]

Just because you make jokes doesn't mean you don't care. Police and nurses often have a very dark sense of humour. People often make jokes at funerals even when they are grieving

[@horseisjustcats.tapedtogether]

You say you wanna be sensitive to this delicate topic, yet you make a joke about it every step of the way! Just shows how little empathy you have now. You've become desensitized

[@ayushpatel3822]

Dan and Ethan at times too we’re being so nasty in this segment! It’s okay to be silly and goofy but show some respect for the victims please when dealing with abu** , these things are very serious

[@leecameron9226]

Hasan fans are such loser's destroying all the fun go away

[@isa-rz3dr]

no they weren’t

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

You censored the word abuse! 🤬

[@amoodyfrog]

These topics are so hard to get through without a bit of fresh air from them. I don't think they were over the line. If you're offended, you should be mad at the parents abusing their kids.

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

@@amoodyfrog Preach 🙏🏼

[@longpigpie3584]

Versipodol no minsweenu soma nabu-natta! 😤🦩🦩🦩🦩

[@repressthedepress2129]

Nabu-natta? Bortu be krebett ichlilikathan! Pormituga 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@melovecrumpets]

Bo kannetu bogg, minsweenu soma “rest easy” agonanic e tennipon.

[@longpigpie3584]

@@repressthedepress2129 Igmire… soma nabu-natta… 🦩