A Call for More Scrutiny in Cases of Shaken Baby Syndrome | Waney Squier | TEDxWandsworth

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@CandyQueenBeeBaker
@CandyQueenBeeBaker 6 жыл бұрын
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND GREATEST TEDX TALKS MADE! THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS!! THIS NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT MORE.
@christinecottone6053
@christinecottone6053 6 жыл бұрын
you got that right
@lathamalnajjar559
@lathamalnajjar559 Жыл бұрын
We need help, any advice?
@laurajaneluvsbeauty9596
@laurajaneluvsbeauty9596 Жыл бұрын
My daughter had a traumatic birth, she had blood shot eyes for weeks after she was born. I was young, and at the dr they just assumed i or her father had shaken her with no evidence and it took 14 months to get her back. The allegations were deemed unfounded and she is now a healthy happy almost 21 year old woman.
@JoeBurnsDublin
@JoeBurnsDublin 6 жыл бұрын
I have met this amazing scientist. One thing she said to me has remained with me, she said: "The Science must be defended". This amazing woman has the courage of Galileo and the worlds greatest scientists who ever lived. Despite the many personal attacks on her, she rises above it and courageously defends the science. If Scientists are not allowed to go against dogma and consensus, then science has degenerated into a religion based on faith.
@sueluttner6938
@sueluttner6938 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Squier, for this careful yet compelling presentation. Your tale is sobering. My hat is off to your intellectual honesty. First, you were willing to rethink the common knowledge based on your own scientific understanding, and now you speak the truth you see, even though your message is not popular. After my own journey through the medical literature, I can confirm that your are absolutely right: Misinformed diagnoses of shaken baby are causing untold suffering to innocent families.
@CandyQueenBeeBaker
@CandyQueenBeeBaker 6 жыл бұрын
Sue Luttner thank you sue for sharing! This is amazing!
@keeppushingtruth2356
@keeppushingtruth2356 4 жыл бұрын
My husband is serving a life without parole sentence for a shaken baby conviction. Second degree murder. People need to go back and look at what the original doctor, who coined sbs, said that he was wrong.
@whathoho9516
@whathoho9516 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr for having the awareness, scrutiny and courage to challenge the status quo. My family has been torn apart from this same accusation. Science should not be treated as dogma.
@cameronhall8073
@cameronhall8073 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr for having the courage to speak about your experience on the subject. Families need your help and more importantly doctors need your help with their courage to come forward. If only doctors had a fraction of your courage ma’am we could evolve at a much faster pace without destroying families across the globe.
@xanderpost3542
@xanderpost3542 6 жыл бұрын
As a victim of SBS, I don’t believe it’s just shaking. Like she said, there’s more than just the triad or even things not related to it. I don’t know much about my condition, but I know the retinas in my eyes were detached and I suffered from seizures. I’m told I’m lucky to be alive. Of course not every family is guilty, but I know for sure my first parents did more than shake. People should not have to suffer because of doctors beliefs. I support you.
@kathleenhuff3059
@kathleenhuff3059 5 жыл бұрын
I suggest you get your vaccine schedule and compare that to when you were diagnosed..as its been proven that most S.I.D.S. & SBS coincides with the vaccine schedules..bleeding on the brain (aka..encephalitis) is listed on vaccine incerts that vaccine makers HAVE to list in the side effect section..
@fairyonice9504
@fairyonice9504 4 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Huff No, not really pal. How do vaccines cause physical trauma? Please don’t spread such dangerous and deadly misinformation.
@keeppushingtruth2356
@keeppushingtruth2356 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry that happened to you. They have definitely wrongfully convicted people based on the triad alone.
@adamkendall997
@adamkendall997 4 жыл бұрын
@@fairyonice9504 uh no, my dad was in the Navy and they were giving the soldiers experimental shots. He said that the next day soldiers were dropping like flies from blood clots. Also one of the vaccines is known to cause cranial pressure and is sometimes used to induce pressure when needed. Kind of like the opposite of aspirin.
@saram2446
@saram2446 2 жыл бұрын
if the triad is seen there must also be marks on the baby in the place were it was held when shaken. If this is not seen the triad has to have another cause. Because without holding the baby extremly firm, the forces of this kind of shaking cannot be upbuild. So the force which causes bleeding in brain and retina will defenetly also causes marks on the baby, like on the chelst ore else were
@kbilisoly9355
@kbilisoly9355 6 жыл бұрын
This is great!! We need more to come out
@treena173
@treena173 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, I work with two kids that have suffered from “shaken baby syndrome.” They both have sever issues. I never questioned it until now. I hope that this gets out and becomes better investigated!
@Born_Banjaxed
@Born_Banjaxed 4 жыл бұрын
"Science is not a democracy" The best science is done when we question the things we already thought we understood.
@t6v5c2
@t6v5c2 4 жыл бұрын
Needed now more than ever in this the era of Covid hysteria
@sarahshaw2365
@sarahshaw2365 6 жыл бұрын
Such an important talk, so brilliantly explained. So many people have suffered because of this 'syndrome'. Do hope this talk communicates this message.
@saram2446
@saram2446 2 жыл бұрын
if a baby is shaken that hard, it must always put into consideration that the baby can only be shaken when the person holds the baby. That means there must be marks on the babys body too, when the baby was shaken, in the place where it was held. Usualls it is under the arms at the chest. Or on the handy, legs. But there must be marks somewere. If there is only the triad (bleedig, retinal bleeding and swelling) how can this then be shaken baby syndrom? No way, it must be something else, because the forse it takes to shake a baby that hard must leave additional marks to the baby
@UncleRedsnow
@UncleRedsnow 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine listening to this enlightening talk and using it to justify your archaic anti-vax views
@vickyCA1643
@vickyCA1643 2 жыл бұрын
Or, using it to justify caution in taking these vaccinations.
@christopherbrochu7492
@christopherbrochu7492 2 ай бұрын
@@vickyCA1643 Caution is unwarranted.
@littlegreen5845
@littlegreen5845 2 ай бұрын
❤ so powerful. Attacking the junk science as it should be and going further and recognizing the real problem - family court.
@jaloneynorwood4306
@jaloneynorwood4306 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been searching for something like this. I’m going thru this right now. For SBS my son will be sentenced next month for 40years or life. I need help where due I find this lady to help me. Please help me help my son 🙏🏽🥺
@Bradygoodz
@Bradygoodz 3 жыл бұрын
So true. Doctors need to wake up.
@MsButtercup3000
@MsButtercup3000 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is more an issue of misnaming a condition - abusive head trauma is more accurate and encompasses the range of impacts, shaking, throwing, etc. that may occur
@sallyatticum
@sallyatticum 3 жыл бұрын
Except with SBS there is no evidence of traumatic impact. That is the point. They are using the lack of trauma to justify the "syndrome"
@BillSmith-ed4jg
@BillSmith-ed4jg 2 жыл бұрын
So rare to see a TED episode that fights woke bs psuedo science Fantastic
@goodgirlkay
@goodgirlkay 6 жыл бұрын
As someone who has taken care of little babies and toddlers....I still find it suspicious when a child just stops breathing in anyone's care. Have I just been lucky? All the children left my care in the same health they were, when their parents left them in my arms. However, I would never want anyone to be wrongfully accused of such terrible abuse. What a nightmare scenario.
@BeckySPD
@BeckySPD 6 жыл бұрын
Make sure you don't care for children who have recently received vaccines. So many vaccines are given at one appointment - with vaccines that have never been tested on their own for safety against a true placebo - and certainly have never even once been tested in combination for safety. As a carer you are at great personal risk to care for babies recently vaccinated.
@saram2446
@saram2446 2 жыл бұрын
what about SIDS? do you think it doesnt exist?
@kirstenornelas881
@kirstenornelas881 Жыл бұрын
SIDS is the sudden death of an infant and I did a research paper in college on this. It is a blanket term for a sudden death or stopping breathing and heart beat in an otherwise uninjured infant. There were a lot of these little ones who were a bit premature and sent home even though they showed difficulty remembering to breath. There were some who had undiagnosed heart condition and they all get put under the blanket of sids. The same thing has been happening with SBS. It is a blanket term used to describe any baby with brain bleed and bleeding behind the eyes or detached retina but without any other injury these same things can be caused by simply being born, falling from a short distance and other accidental not abusive injury. Also there are rare genetic disorders that have caused that same triad. Premature babies top three major complications outside of their breathing and hr are brain bleeds, detached retina called retinopathy of prematurity and brain swelling which is actually connected with the brain bleed due to the extra pressure in the brain.
@lisafolks47
@lisafolks47 Жыл бұрын
To shake a baby with the force required to cause such head injuries YOU WOULD SEE NECK INJURY think about it
@Rubyoreo
@Rubyoreo Жыл бұрын
@@lisafolks47 Exactly- that seems obvious to me. Why would the child not have visable neck injuries? Baby heads are very large, they cant even support themselves. If a baby was shaken severely the neck would have serious injuries like in the car study she talks about. It's so sick that these parents not only lose a child but get accused of murder.
@naomigrant4595
@naomigrant4595 6 жыл бұрын
An excellent talk. They ruined that young mother’s life! This is a matter of great concern! I have a 5 month old granddaughter and are reading on health matters of babies quite frequently. I recently heard a similar story from a friend of ours. His grand child in New Zealand was diagnosed with shaken baby syndrome and the carer. Will stand trial in court soon. I had my doubts when he told us the story. Has any scientific research proven a relationship between infant vaccinations and shaken baby syndrome? This is a topic that doctors prefer to rather ignore because of fear of losing their license. I watched the documentaries and were shocked. I am eagerly awaiting your answer .
@naomigrant4595
@naomigrant4595 6 жыл бұрын
“By the carer” correction
@BeckySPD
@BeckySPD 6 жыл бұрын
I believe many of the experts feel vaccines are a causative factor. They often leave it out of their defense and reports because of the overall feel of courts to support vaccines. Many are able to successfully defend based on metabolic diseases, low vitamin D - especially if there are also unexplained fractures. Since doctors refuse too recognize the harm caused by vaccines babies will continue to die and innocent people will continue to be blamed.
@fairyonice9504
@fairyonice9504 4 жыл бұрын
Really, vaccines? There are far more REAL studies supporting vaccination. SBS is unscientific, but vaccines are not.
@ChrisBranson
@ChrisBranson 6 жыл бұрын
This is not the only area where family courts destroy families based on speculation. I've never defended a family accused of SBS, but I have for Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy. You could almost replace MSBP for SBS and give the exact same speech.
@bridittebargeot2679
@bridittebargeot2679 6 жыл бұрын
Except that münchhausen by proxy HAS been witnessed and even videotaped more then once! I'm not saying that every accusation is right, but this definitly DOES exist, it has nothing to do with speculation! You can't seriously compare both!
@kcaj2385
@kcaj2385 Жыл бұрын
What a disturbing expose of ignorance of appropriate scientific process in the medical and legal professions. What can be done?
@lathamalnajjar559
@lathamalnajjar559 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone help us, my partner and I are going through this right now...
@Tavat
@Tavat 3 жыл бұрын
Mind blown.
@lasonn4127
@lasonn4127 6 жыл бұрын
How strange that inspite of her narrative clearly pinpointing the police as the ones complaining about her use of science in the courts, she ends her talk with the message to reform attitudes towards science and the strengthening of the scientific method and perspective in courts and in research. The culprit here is the privatised prison system and the family courts in collusion with them. Police need to fulfil their quotas; they are less concerned with justice than with keeping their jobs in a for-profit prison industry. It's the prison system that needs to be reformed to see less injustice and weird behavior and attitudes towards scientific knowledge and its use in legal cases.
@wookie0dud
@wookie0dud 5 ай бұрын
Tak ja tez apeluje o nie rozsiewanie popeliny. Ewidentnie dolegliwosc wymyslona by posylac zwykle dzieci do terapeuty. Zero badan klinicznych ale wszyscy wierzcie na slowo, bojcie soe i wysylajcie nam(im) kasę.... Jak nie ma popytu to stwórz podaż ;)
@lisafolks47
@lisafolks47 3 жыл бұрын
There is an excellent documentary "the syndrome" check it out!
@B6east
@B6east 6 жыл бұрын
Oh how apalling.....Lord help us ł
@ryantrumble9597
@ryantrumble9597 6 жыл бұрын
Why would you shake a baby in the first place ? It's not a champagne bottle
@dreheg6194
@dreheg6194 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Trumble if you get frustrated cause it's crying and stuff you might shake it
@DP-jy2ge
@DP-jy2ge 6 жыл бұрын
Because you're insane.
@ciscalowlands
@ciscalowlands 6 жыл бұрын
It's an excuse for vaccine damage.
@kathleenhuff3059
@kathleenhuff3059 5 жыл бұрын
@@ciscalowlands "an excuse?"..rhen explain why the MAJORITY of S.I.D.S. & S.B.S. ARE happening at or near the TIMING if the vaccine schedule?? And while you are at it..explain the USA has the HIGHEST MORTALITY rates in the DEVELOPED WORLD..considering WE have the HIGHEST VACCINE RATE!!
@ciscalowlands
@ciscalowlands 5 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenhuff3059 I know, it's so sad! :(
@karney6583
@karney6583 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait.... The Brits only give you 3 years for killing a baby? Wut.
@keeppushingtruth2356
@keeppushingtruth2356 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the people who were wrongfully convicted in the us, who are serving life sentences based off of junk science.
@joyfulrealist618
@joyfulrealist618 3 жыл бұрын
Infanticide of a child by their mother in the first year of life I think is classed as manslaughter and not murder. It acknowledges that some mothers can suffer post natal effects lasting a year that affect their ability to cope.
@opalfruits8596
@opalfruits8596 3 жыл бұрын
Postnatal mental health problems can absolutely exceed beyond a year. Many women don't become ill until 13/14 months postpartum, some even later. And untreated, can last years.
@chickensalad3535
@chickensalad3535 11 ай бұрын
Totally understandable imo.
@saram2446
@saram2446 2 жыл бұрын
I did not get why Lindas baby acually died from. Did anybody get it?
@juenothing5432
@juenothing5432 Жыл бұрын
Linda's baby could have died from an infection,from being born and showing the same triad of symptoms....did you not listen to the talk?
@ashley2timess324
@ashley2timess324 6 жыл бұрын
And there could be numerous types of shaking behind doors . If shaken too much especially by a man , yes i do indeed believe that a baby could suffer from more than sbs , sorry not sorry . 🤦🏽‍♀️🗣
@AnnAppl3
@AnnAppl3 6 жыл бұрын
I dont care what sicence says i was a shaken bb and i know my problems.
@adamkendall997
@adamkendall997 5 жыл бұрын
So you actually remember being shaken? I doubt it. SBS is based on junk science so I wouldn't believe it.
@christopherbrochu7492
@christopherbrochu7492 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone's saying shaking a baby is necessarily harmless. What's becoming clear is that the assumptions that went into many shaken baby cases - that certain symptoms (the triad) only occur when a baby is shaken, and that it's always the fault of the person who was last with the baby - are not as valid as we once thought. Those who abuse children should always be punished, but some people have been punished as abusers who never abused anyone.
@DABnabbit-BWG
@DABnabbit-BWG 10 ай бұрын
@@christopherbrochu7492 you are exactly right. In Deb Tuerkheimer's book "Flawed Convictions' she explores the origins of SBS, and Dr. Guthkelch who originally was suggesting people don't shake babies as a form of punishment, was turned into the SBS "medical diagnosis of murder" mostly by legal professionals wanting a sure win. Dr. Guthkelch spent the last decade of his life fighting for the innocent. Science has shown SBS is wrong, especially when there are no external injuries, the legal system hasn't caught up.
@kjruiz88
@kjruiz88 Жыл бұрын
There is no controversy, over nine out of 10 qualified pediatricians agree that abusive head trauma is a real thing. Let’s remember that it was the scientist, your fellow doctors, who suspended your license based on your testimony in court, which if as misleading as the speech was certainly warranted.
@rarelyaccurate6252
@rarelyaccurate6252 5 жыл бұрын
The mistake was overturning her conviction. If my son or daughter died of a head injury in my care their, regardless of how it happened, (falling down the stairs, etc.) Their death is my responsibility and I would deserve to be punished. Their lives are my responsibility and if I fail to keep them safe, it is as bad as if I hurt them intentionally. It is the one and only job I have that matters. Failing at that job, I would deserve death.
@christopherbrochu7492
@christopherbrochu7492 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. Seriously. Head injuries may cause death long after they occur; if a child dies under my care, it's my responsibility if the injury happened on my watch, but not if it didn't - especially if I'd never been told that a child hit his or her head at some point.
@emmataylor7350
@emmataylor7350 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, it’s a little more complicated than that, for example, it maybe an accident on his head when someone else took care of him, or accident when birth, or even unknown viruses, the problem is brain injuries doesn’t always show right way. A lot people just don’t even know when did that happen. There are some older people slightly hurt themself, doesn’t even know when did they hurt themselves and didn’t think it’s important, but can be week later has brain injuries. Something called Chronic subdural hematoma. There is another thing. Most time, the parents suffer this, they already dead once, they maybe have the same feeling like you, they fail the job, there is already best punishment for them, they maybe not even care about sentence, but they love their kids more than themselves, how can they admit they hurt their kids intentionally? And truth is truth, how can the police or the doctor force a mother to lie because of a wrong theory.
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