A Complete In-Depth Guide To 3s In Rocket League

[@Cre4tor.]

Nice, now I just gotta lock all of my friends in my basement and force them to watch this video over and over again.

[@typeofguyto]

I'll pay you to do the same to my friends

[@godsaint6150]

And mine

[@spartanstu8495]

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[@Cre4tor.]

@@spartanstu8495 Legend 😂

[@abracabraabracabra5409]

yo you should do that to the WHOLE ENTIRE rocket league community!

[@jomezus]

This is definitely different than the solo queue meta of 1st man pushing up, staying 1st man, getting married, starting a family, and retiring as 1st man

[@sickhcivc]

this made me laugh so hard

[@acron7559]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheGoldenLight11]

BASED LMFAOO

[@IIIrIpI7III]

The worse is that he is usually marrying the 2nd man!

[@TheGoldenLight11]

@@IIIrIpI7III I thought that they normally marry the cheater man :(

[@JonkRL]

Was such a blast dumping part of my Rocket League Brain into this video! I hope you all learned something in the process ;)

[@jacksonrolles2706]

The layering aspect confused me a little, as I often find myself scoring redirects or demos due to that positioning. While I also find myself getting beat, I don’t want to give up the ability to cheat past tm8 with ball for either demo or redirect. How can I avoid layering and still set up those plays?

[@angelsdowtenn4152]

@@jacksonrolles27061st man initiates the demo play, you bail off the ball for a demo as 1st, not go faster than your your 1st as 2nd

[@angelsdowtenn4152]

How much is your program

[@hhaste]

@@jacksonrolles2706 My assumption would be to only go for those as the first man, after your challenge/50/make your play. That way you're already up there. The 2nd man can go for the ball, while you demo or get an opening for a redirect.

[@spartanstu8495]

Its a really nice dump. You and Than did a nice job.

[@Stazy.7]

Insane how this vid only gets watched by people who play against me

[@TheGoldenLight11]

LMAO

[@PPurnell21]

I'm too low rank. I've never heard of you 😂

[@jakecooper5514]

If they play this against you then expose them

[@Jonahasbaby]

Yep

[@MartianMoon]

Would love a guide like this on 2s

[@CynideCypher]

mostly the same. just no third man position

[@Laskaa9]

​@@CynideCypherSecond man is also less aggressive ideally, as he is covering the fact that there is no 3rd

[@jakecooper5514]

Bro this is a guide to 2s

[@alexandermyers23]

Showed this to my friend and he IMMEDIATELY was everywhere he needed to be. I owe you money for explaining to him what I could not. Good lordie. My whole team is getting to Champ by next season at this rate.

[@hassanismail696]

this editing is pure bliss.

[@madeofcake6972]

I've been looking forward to this video ever since the announcement on GoldenLight's channel. Glad these ideas are being shared by such a big creator. Good job Jonk. :)

[@TheGoldenLight11]

Sorry for the delay :). We needed to let the ribeye marinate you feel?

[@lacrafty8728]

GoldenLight is the BEST at this kind of rotation. Genuinely go check him out to learn more about how to play 3s with all of the pro content he offers FOR FREE. He is basically shares a huge portion of the brains behind this and I didn't notice him get any of the credit he deserves. I wanna see him grow

[@CrazySolarPanel]

Been watching Goldenlight tips videos for a while now. Really happy to see these ideas getting more views. Hopefully will change solo queue ranked for the better soon!

[@kirito-chan9884]

Can we just talk about how Thanos videos are just so well edited? Like this guy deserves more praise

[@armaanchorpa6739]

Thanos.

[@itskelvinn]

Sounds like a bot comment

[@armaanchorpa6739]

Meh idk rlly

[@kirito-chan9884]

@@itskelvinnokay mate

[@ketz_165]

He has an editing team thank them

[@TheGoldenLight11]

Big thanks over to @JonkRL and @thanovic for showcasing some of our concepts. Wish I could've had this years ago on my channnel man damn these editors do wonders. (guys I think we found the editors we need). @Thanovic can you lend me your editors once in a while LMAO Was honestly quite surprised Jonk was putting out some of these trade secrets from our program. Even then, I tell you with 1000% certainty: This barely even scratches the surface.

[@texsion]

W golden

[@IAMYAMAMA]

GOAT

[@Rrr000yyY]

Great video. The thing about these theories (great as they are) however is that especially in solo queues you are largely at the mercy of your teammates. If they don't have this awareness, skill or just don't care all of this goes out the window. There is simply no accounting for the randomness of teammate behaviors in solo queues. You either need to get lucky and get the right teammates, accept being stuck on defense 90% or be plain good enough that you can carry them to victory.

[@russallen2011]

My 2nd man abilities are lagging super far behind because your typical option is be passive or aggressive

[@Rrr000yyY]

@@russallen2011 Yup same. Because it's pretty much a guarantee that your third man will just Leroy Jenkins after the ball. Heck even as first man you're never sure what your second or third man is going to do. And even as third man I have lost count how many times I've seen the first man go all the way back, leaving me free to go on the offensive, only to have them grab corner boost, turn around and go immediately on the offensive again as well, leaving our net completely exposed.

[@korekdorek]

@@Rrr000yyY This is almost my every 3s experience. I'm the third man entire game, because there is no space for me to make the play.

[@Beef21]

Really well edited and polished video, I feel a lot better about 3s now.

[@megazerorl]

Where's the goldenlight info on covering the midfield and mirroring sadge.😢

[@goldfly.]

We (the youtube viewers) have missed you! This is such a useful guide as I don't really know how to play 3s without friends. Thank you, no one has explored this in detail to my knowledge

[@tundra345]

This video is really helping me with 3s but there is still the problem about solo quev when my tm8s think they are also 1st men at the same tima as me

[@nanterzn]

Thanks for the video! Nothing more to say, I'm just gonna share this video to my friends and hope I wiil finally not be the only one to understand how to play 3s

[@heisen1815]

was watching this on my TV but I'm 2 minutes in and I feel the need to leave a comment on the editing. This is the best editing I've ever seen in an RL video. This is what psyonix/epic should strive to achieve with their non-existent content. Fantastic

[@silwoe]

This is a great video thanovic! Really learned a lot here. And shoutout to Jonk as well for help too!

[@w1nther930]

I've always struggled with one thing when it comes to both 2 or 3's. That is knowing where to position myself. I litterally have zero clue where i'm supposed to be. If i tried to be second man, the ball would always just go over my head. Try to act as the first man, i don't really have that ability to pass or threaten an attack. But playing as a natural third man is more my style. The problem was, i was almost always playing like a third man's positioning... as a second man. Like, on the other side of the pitch almost layering

[@TheDevil69270]

Awesome research and editing ! This video is a gold mine of advice. My wife and I have been getting into 3s lately as an alternative to a very frustrating high champ 2s environment ! Hope we can bring some of that theory to our game

[@sholonkerz6751]

This is going to change rocket league

[@TheGoldenLight11]

The revolution has started

[@bigstusoccer]

This is a great well explained video on 3s. Really helped understand how to flow. Can you also do a 2s?

[@BloxCraft728]

Listening to this while on the threadmill in the gym gonna crush it when i get home Witherspoon those tips

[@Lbg811]

Can we get this Type of Video for duos?

[@BigBoss78481]

Finally facts to analyse team replays! Even tho I play since season 1 and I peaked 1700 in 2/3s I learned something! Great Video! It filled a huge hole in the space of content creation!

[@jordanstrickland9597]

Just need one for 2s and 1s! Great video

[@austins43]

Great video as always Thano. Hopefully I can send this to my teammates as homework. Editor went absolutely bonkers again too. Major props

[@apocboi]

Finally a good 3s video. Hopefully more people see this instead of constantly being too close to the second man as a third man. That's the most annoying part about solo 3s

[@thexandman4590]

Crazy guide with literal visuals for explanations so easy to understand, now I just have to get my friends on board

[@Boombob]

Great video! I highly recommend people going back and looking at the 2nd man role, as I find that it can probably be one of the hardest things to work on, and a high ball is often "good to go for" even if a 1st to third rotation is a better move.

[@chadowjunior1739]

great video thanovic keep up the good work

[@Gnarly-FX]

ME AND MY TEAM NEEDED THIS!

[@ajinkyamestry7463]

Really good editing. Spot on !!

[@RalphyRL]

Love how informative and well edited this is, makes it easy to understand with the visuals Genuinly realised how little I know about how to play 3’s the right way… might need to get some coaching now

[@CoolPiggy]

this is so useful! I am champ in 2s and plat in 3s, I really needed this.

[@itsavdr3]

pls make a 2s guide like this so i can send it to my friends

[@coachtony1219]

It's about time someone made a video about 3s 🎉🎉🎉 Well done!!

[@zamndan4870]

Watched this video and got inspired to play some 3s. immediately after watching this video I went on a 10 game win streak that was only ruined by a 3 minute OT loss

[@sidjedi1]

Good advices!! Please do one guide for 2s!

[@TheLunarrr]

This was awesome! Please do this for 2v2 aswell

[@edgeribble]

Would be nice if someone made a video like this for 1s. I feel like 1s game sense is neglected

[@gaulderin]

Thank god for this Thanovic! I’m GC 1-2 in 2s, high C3 in ones, and C1 rn in 3s. It’s been so frustrating solo queuing. Hopefully this helps 😂❤

[@SteveJames-nn9hp]

How to play 1s: Possession 2s: Rotate 3s: x+yz/7+38x2*37 solve for y

[@JonkRL]

🤣

[@Darki971]

ayyy good job ! That the best guide ive ever seen.Very clear and simple and structered.keep it up Thanovic!!

[@gaming_aygo8293]

Can u make on for duos?

[@mythikalgaming1608]

Nice, just need one of these for 2v2 and 1v1

[@Trends_daily1]

Pretty please do a ones version please please please

[@gabeybaby3398]

i love the amazing edits in all your videos!!!

[@bandom3115]

7:14 in this instance, 3rd man who are diamonds-GCs would rush in and just smack it with no plan than spam “TAKE THE SHOT” so… that’s about more than 60% of the games possibly even more

[@alexdiaz1592]

Please do this with twos as well 🙏

[@Afateeer]

I grind 3s on SQ, and stand at the same rank as my 2s D1-2. My simple way is good rotation and good reading of what’s happening with everyone.

[@oGBeginner]

Hope this teaches me something. I'd like to enjoy 3s but I just want to blame teammates for everything. In 2s and 1s you can just take control

[@mathewpowers5]

Excellent video!!!!

[@redzx138]

Question: on question 1, i feel like Jonk pushing that spot is not wrong as he should've been the 2nd and Svebby needed to be 3rd. Svebby was rotating so Jonk would be faster as 2nd anyway. Is this not the case?

[@Sylles_far]

Agree 100%. Before he pushed up he must have seen Svebby heading towards own left corner thereby leaving him out of any offensive support. So correct decision to push up as support for first man chasing. Unlucky first man is not able to send a pass in his direction and instead loses a fifty he ends in with that cut in towards goal, which should be fine as team still have third man in the back. So yea... a bad example of someone doing anything wrong. If anything I'd say second man could have been a bit closer to the play instead of reducing the speed he had just gained. If he had maintained momentum, first man (if aware, and instead of the cut in towards blue's goal) could have sent ball with small angle into back wall as a risk free pass. First man must have seen both blue players that were back defending goal line layer and their third was full throttle going own left corner.

[@sholonkerz6751]

Since they haven't established pressure yet, pushing mid is usually a wasted position and it's better to play farther back to receive the clear.

[@Sylles_far]

​@@sholonkerz6751I think it's a question of play style. The guy clearing ball from own net and chases after the ball is obviously signalling 'let's try to hold on to ball possession". With no one supporting that hunt for ball possession it will most likely leave him in a 1v3 situation and soon after have a possible outcome where 2nd and 3d are caught in a 2v3 situation. I think the wrong move in this example is first man not trying to pass mid to 2nd man pushing up. Instead he cuts in field and goes in a direct line towards goal trying to win a 50 with 2 opp. ready for him....

[@sholonkerz6751]

@@Sylles_far The first man's goal is to beat the opponents and force a bad clear. Trying to hit it middle wouldn't work here because the other team has all three of their players back on defense which means the middle is already covered. I will say this positioning isn't a complete breakdown since it's the 3rd man pushing mid instead of the second.

[@secret__david]

The Video is cutted very well. Thank you i enjoyed the video

[@SilasGreene]

I love threes and i agree it does not get enoughlove however from a neutral stance i see that some people may think that 3s are to chaotic and messy so players that start with 1ons or 2s they will enevitably be less comfortable in something like 3s

[@TheLunarrr]

My only complaint about this video was the second jock question, asked the question without hardly showing the clip 😂

[@flowkayy8098]

Ok I’m not even halfway through the video yet but the editor COOKED. Give him some love for me!

[@randyrivera3423]

This video should be in the tutorial cinematics

[@benjaminflovick1771]

Bro c1 3s in OCE most people still dont know how to play with or as third man it's sad and frustrating.

[@srfour]

Im just happy when my mates dont stop under the ball after missing it the first attempt them proceed to flop like a fish trying to hit the ball any old direction.

[@pegrat]

the video is so well made Thanovic! i think the text shouldnt slide in, maybe just fade in instead, since its weird hearing you say something but not being able to read it right away since the text is moving so fast

[@DJLeeStreet]

Really appreciated this video bruh 😎 thanks ❤

[@_ShadeX]

Do this for 2s please

[@shivameverson2304]

Now we just need a 2v2 and 1v1 tutorial

[@yalmaoo5014]

Hey Thanovic, thank you for this in depth Video. I do have a question about high rank matches tho. When I‘m 1st man and lost a challenge, the opponent is starting a counterplay (let’s say from the wall), when should I go for a demo on him, and when not? I do that quiet a lot, and my team gets often rewarded for it, yet I do know that I sometimes mess up our rotation, since I‘m rotating back on the same lane where the 2nd man is meant to challenge. Any tips on this one?

[@texsion]

I think this is just a feel thing. If you think you’ve got him do it, if you’re team needs a big play to happen look for it. If there’s no chance for it rotate normal

[@marshallteach9006]

That's a very interesting and useful video but as a low Diamond player, I think trying to make this work is hurting my gameplay and my mental. I'm not one to blame my teammates for my losses but when it comes to rotation, people at this rank are simply unpredictable and that makes it extra difficult.

[@lloidpadilla427]

Hope all players watch this since it works in 2s aswell

[@ChipboardDev]

the editing on this video goes hard

[@Zutekh]

If your gonna q 3s with this mindset, just be prepared to be 3rd man forever. all of these tips are corrects and find, but one major issue with it is that it works with the assumption that your teammates will be doing the same thing (which is not gonna happen in any rank lower than GC3)

[@texsion]

They mostly layer which is annoying but yeah being 3rd is the way to go

[@JXROSA]

You should add sections to the video that way people can reference different sections to friends.

[@SunsetSecondary]

wtf i didnt know this would help so much ive been stuck at around 975 mmr in 3s for a couple weeks and now im 1025…

[@ORCSTRA2892]

very good, next 2s?

[@matthewhibbert7930]

This is a stunning video

[@CynideCypher]

shout out to goldenlight. The Big Brain Coach behind teaching this.

[@mind_of_dro]

i wish i could solo queue 3s, but i can barely handle one ball chaser on the same team. having 2 of them on the same team just tilts me because i usually left back in a 2v1 or 3v1

[@hanzoRnG]

wish they made this video mandatory to watch before queing into 3s every season

[@treylord]

I’m a plat 2 in 3’s atm, I’m gonna watch this and see if I can’t jump up to d2 if not c1 my 2’s rank in d1

[@2Dope11]

Just learn how to hit the ball hard and not just throw it away to other team. Mix that with the rotations in this vid and c1 is easy to get to

[@treylord]

@@2Dope11 I’m great and keeping possession and can hit ball hard but if I go for a play my teammates run me over

[@2Dope11]

@@treylord yeah those ranks are chase heavy. It sucks but until you have the mechanics to just steamroll everyone, YOU have to play the 3rd man position a lot. Just have fun man and enjoy the climb! I’ll see you up here in the gc2 hell soon enough 🤣

[@treylord]

@@2Dope11 thank you for the advice :) hopefully I’ll get up there soon

[@ohwy6424]

Gonna lie this is meta 🔥🔥🔥

[@thecorvus100]

1. Don’t solo Q. 2. Never trust your tm8s 3. Don’t solo Q

[@thecorvus100]

Honestly, you can watch all the rolls/rotation videos out there but if your tm8s haven’t also watched them, it doesn’t help much. See rules 1,2 and 3.

[@TheGoldenLight11]

And don't solo q.

[@GRAVESGGS]

a lot of games i end stuck in 2nd man position and inevitably end up watching my tm8s struggle to make anything happen.

[@joescool3258]

I don’t wanna make it sound like I’m a pro but what if your playing with your friends and they aren’t that good skill wise, is it then alright to rotate differently for example jumping regardless to save the ball when it’s not ur turn but just in case they miss the save😂😂😂😂😂or not shooting/jumping or aerialing at all when the ball is clearly yours to shoot but your teammates are platinum/don’t care and will try shoot every pass or shot opportunity and will “ALWAYS” jump regardless if they’re half ways behind the field or sitting right in front of the goal awkwardly (basically about to block it) so majority of the time you just stay down half flip back to defence cause you know better and don’t want to double commit😂😂😂 or another one jumping in front of them when an attacker is literally walking the ball down the field because you know the earlier you can challenge the less chance they can be more threatening (eg. blocking more angles of the goal they have, 50/50 the ball out of a threatening play etc). Basically I just want to know is this alright doing weird rotations/transitions when your playing with lower ranked players 😂 great video btw😂😂

[@derrapha2.049]

Actually a bit scary because I was just thinking about a in depth video of 3‚s 😅

[@deanward6001]

3rd man = teams most consistent and reliable player(Vatira,Zen,FK,Rw9,Daniel etc)

[@epxis0]

thanks now im ssl

[@metachaiso6218]

"jonk realizes his teammate pushed up" he wasnt even on the screen lmfao

[@jonrimert2220]

Yeahh, this was the only fault in the video, imho. At the time, the "2nd man" he was referring to was rotating back to left corner improperly against the play AND that corner boost was taken AND he was in an awkward position coming off the wall, so imho, Jonk (with full boost, on ground, in net) should have been 2nd man at that point, and pushed up properly, while the "2nd man" Than referenced in the video should have rotated back to 3rd. This was unfortunately an excellent moment Than could have explained an accidental layer on defensive 2nd/3rd man. If you watch it back, Jonk peeked back to the left corner for a second, and saw the "2nd man" in an awkward position due to the improper rotation, and likely noticed the boost was taken, so he pushed up. Meanwhile, the "2nd man" might not have seen Jonk pushing forward due to the layer, and saw the large mid boost was available ahead of him, so he pushed ahead. Things like this happen in a matter of split seconds, and usually result in an easy goal if the other team realizes it.

[@NekiChan37]

Very easy to understand

[@Jesse-wh2ur]

keep it up!

[@Fatherhat101]

I was literally just about to play three's

[@Faced1111]

the problem is 90% of the player base diamond and below do not know how to play 3rd man and would rather chase.

[@ZmokeYT]

Yes!👏

[@SoulSadistyc]

first rely good video proposition 1- gameplay from low lvl player could help a lot to show ho position get more easy ball and how help low lvl aply it 2- i think the definition of 1,2,3 man should be defin like you 3 man if you got no one behind even if you got the ball and the 2nd man becom 1 if he get the ball no mather what 3-my miss ifo i wanna dump dont shadow at 1 man plis great video i love it

[@GUARIVERA81]

Lets talk about making all vehicles viable.

[@drshedy]

do a guide for 2v2

[@l1od]

tell this my ranked mates

[@kye3398]

You're the same rank as them for a reason, brother

[@l1od]

WHAT ABOUT SMURFS @@kye3398

[@FishySmell3]

Love how my teammates just yelled at me "there's no such thing as positioning" lol we were all solo qing btw

[@Enviousssss]

Oh my gosh is that me in the video omg guys

[@Christhegoat89]

I feel bad for the people that don’t have enough mechs to actually hit the ball😭

[@edgeribble]

Ps make one for 2s as well