A Critique Of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker: An Epic Disaster

[@maximstepinac6716]

You know what would have been amazing. If the last villain was actually Jar Jar Binks.

[@andrewwall1160]

Should’ve been. They’ve all done Bom Bad!

[@maximstepinac6716]

@@andrewwall1160 would have been the most Epic reveal.

[@thegamingspino2597]

He would of ben better than palpatine

[@meutainer8696]

Would have made far more sense

[@SRodSS007]

It could still be…

[@Buford_T_Justice1]

Burying Annakin’s lightsaber in sand was the ultimate insult. Annakin hated sand.

[@liamphibia]

His Force Ghost would have choked the living hell out of Rey. *"I HATE SAND YOU IDIOT!"*

[@olafgurke4699]

Burying his lightsaber on the planet he tried so hard to escape from. 10/10, smart move Rey. If Anakin would've turned the youngling slayer 9000 against her, I would've cheered.

[@jogymogy3691]

I am still kinda amazed that Disney managed to kill Star Wars. Not just harming it, destroyed it.

[@stevejones2925]

I was lucky to be half-asleep watching this movie, and now I see how much I forgot.

[@KiegKillsReality]

And now 8 months later, they’ve done more than destroy it. They’ve decimated it. Just when you think they couldn’t do worse, they write Acolyte.

[@jesuspernia8031]

They just stomping on its grave at this point

[@nickbearden8508]

How do you not have a million followers, this channel is amazing.

[@rickypaul1482]

Facts

[@timgrinxx7068]

BIG FACTS

[@queencerseilannister3519]

With content like his he'll get there 😁

[@danielleblanc4660]

I’m starting to see these smaller channels taking up the mantle

[@markmorris2856]

That heal power is literally why anakin turned to the dark side and yet rey just casually does it

[@XxsteamerxX]

Having just read Darth Plagueis, Palpatine knew of this ability from his master who used it for decades to recover from an ambush attack. It seems Palps wanted his pet to remain under his control since he was so powerful in the Force. The travesty is in execution. Plagueis spent years practicing learning and struggling to develop this ability. So for the bestest evar Rey-ry Sue to just be able to do it is horribly offensive.

[@blatherama]

"A rap battle between an idioit and a madman." That's the best summary of this movie I've heard yet.

[@charity6372]

Seriously, your channel is criminally underrated. 👏👏👏

[@BigBear--]

I choose to identify as living in a world where this last Star Wars trilogy doesn't exist.

[@gzz8551]

Mark Hamill's face man.... jeez you can actually see his soul die.

[@jsw973]

32:33 no, not Frodo's granddaughter. SAURON's granddaughter. Thats how fucking insane the sequel trilogy is.

[@olafgurke4699]

Well, according to Amazon, might be the granddaughter of Sauron and Galadriel. q.q

[@mattwuk]

Your video gave me some kind of enjoyment from the farce trilogy as a 51 year old kid that watched actual Star Wars in the cinema in 77.

[@jedibrooks7235]

The desecration of luke started this whole channel. A crime against humanity

[@mattwuk]

@jedibrooks7235 you have a great outlook, opinion and take on what we originally loved and have an exceptional way and style, crack on brother 🫵

[@anthonys.3544]

When you meet someone and they say they liked these movies... Honestly a massive red flag. 🚩

[@ZiplineShazam]

YEP !

[@lancemcque1459]

Disney: Ruins Star Wars. It can't get any worst. Amazon: Hold my rings.

[@owenbyrns-i8b]

it's frustrating that and ray changes her name to Skywalker like she doesn't care about her parents who both sacrificed her life for her and were named Palpatine showing that good people can be named Papatine.

[@stevesamuals2651]

People at the beginning of the sequel trilogy: well, the movie definitely has flaws, but i think it'll be a great stepping stone for a trilogy. People at the middle of the trilogy: ohh geez. Uhh... Come on guys, its the middle part, we can redeem this... Right? People at the end of the trilogy: by the gods of cinema, why did we have hope for this?

[@angel-memeroftheisles]

I was so hyped After the first film. Afterall Disney had nailed it with Rogue One, it could happen again no? Then the second film dropped, scrapped EVERYTHING the first film hyped up, and the third film just gave up any logic or sense because the 2nd had butchered everything beyond repair.

[@SamM-gl9zc]

This Entire Trilogy was absolute garbage. In force awakens, which most people seem to consider the best of the three, when Han gets killed, Leia walks right past Chewie - the same Chewie Han told to protect Leia when he was frozen in carbonite - to go comfort Rey, who they had all just met. Why can't people write anymore?!?!

[@TheReZisTLust]

Woolies don't have emotions I guess🥴

[@jesuspernia8031]

TFA was just a terrible version of ANH. And TLJ/TROS were actually some of the worst movies ever created.

[@CallmeKenneth-tb1zb]

There's also something to be said about the subtlety of Vader's force choke versus Ren's move. Vader is sending a message, he's not dishing out punishment for the scepticism, he's educating the rest of the room, whilst subtly re-establishing his authority that has just been questioned by the tone of Motti's comments. The Ren scene is just an act of petty petulance, a child lashing out in a temper tantrum. He's educated no one, earned no respect. He hasn't ruthlessly removed incompetency from the chain of command, he's simply created an environment of fear by wasting potential talent because he was asked a reasonable question.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

This. Kylo Force chokes an officer when he asks: "and what does he (Palpatine) want in return?" You know what? That's a perfectly reasonable question. The kind of question I would expect a competent officer to ask. This isn't a rebel Kylo is killing. This isn't someone who FAILED him. Why, Kylo, are you so pointlessly angry all the time, you absolute cheese sandwich? The real reason why this is happening is because JJ thought: "how can I make Kylo more intimidating? Hey, Vader used to choke people to death, right? Well I'M gonna make Kylo choke someone to death, too! There. Done. Moving on." And this is the awful way that JJ writes. It's either "reference" or "wouldn't it be cool if . . ." He doesn't think about scenes any deeper than that.

[@CallmeKenneth-tb1zb]

@@KneelB4Bacon I agree but there's also so much to that Vader scene that flies under the radar. Motti has just questioned the existence of the Force, Vader could have just moved a cup on the table, instead he chokes him, demonstrating that the force exists, and establishing in the audience's mind that this is the bad guy. But he shows restraint, a subtlety of control that tells you this guy has a level of control that is dangerous because he doesn't grab him by the throat and choke him out, he simply and calmly pinches shut his windpipe. That tells the audience this guy is calm and calculated, not an indiscriminate killer. The reactions of the other staff show you that Vader is not someone to be trifled with, with only Tarkin telling him to stop and even then only after allowing him to make his point. He's an enemy you can respect, one you should definitely fear, he's shown to be intelligent and well spoken, a man in total control of his emotions. This is what great writing looks like, because you learn more about Vader in those few seconds than you do about Kylo Ren in the entire sequel trilogy. With the subtlety of a simple gesture, we immediately are told exactly what kind of bad guy to expect from Vader. It's a masterclass of writing.

[@hugomungus7306]

30:28 Fun reminder: The entire series of events that unfold during this film, take place in under 16 hours.

[@skeetmarinerah3566]

Luke tried to find a dagger for years to find and finally end Palpatine WHILE BEING A HERMIT AND GIVING UP BEING A JEDI......every 1 of these movies are NOT connected in the slightest way.....this trilogy is a fkn fever dream

[@miely0847]

I am absolutely convinced the writers are the same ones who write those extremely awful Hallmark movies. Same ideas over and over, no sense, no character development

[@officialmonarchmusic]

One of them wrote Batman V Superman. Like for real

[@liamphibia]

Your review/commentary of RoS was a THOUSAND TIMES entertaining than the actual film itself. I'll be watching your career with great interest.

[@szabok1999]

I watched this movie as a comedy and had a great time. It's just too damn funny. When Rey said "Rey Skywalker" the cinema groaned "oh come on" out loud.

[@danielhoward9729]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa... they gave Rey the ability that Palpatine tempted Vader with?

[@adrianmetzler2523]

Of the revamped original Star Wars had Anakin ghost be young Anakin as opposed to the original ones having him be old, why is Luke’s ghost old Luke? Also, why a dagger? Don’t they use light sabers in this galaxy far far away? Also, did he straight up rip off the goonies?? Seriously, what the fuck?!.

[@olafgurke4699]

From the EU and stuff like SWTOR, there is precedent to ritualistic daggers of the Sith. They just wouldn't be used as retardedly as they are here.

[@AtamskArchadian]

I just stopped paying attention to anything regarding the cinematic “continuity” when this stuff got released. Star Wars is only truly real to me in the expanded universe, where the real fans make stuff.

[@yeetusdeletus3226]

🤜🤛

[@chairliftphilospher5710]

Obviously this is a D&D game where Rey's player is the GM's girlfriend and a massive jerk.

[@chairliftphilospher5710]

She clearly had a custom class/subclass made to get all the cool powers she wants. 20 in every score because her boyfriend the GM has no spine. Doesn'te even try to roleplay. I mean it fits really well.

[@chairliftphilospher5710]

Then Kylo is the Dm's stupid NPC thats only around cos Rey thinks of the character as her boyfriend.

[@ShaneDouglas713]

In a nutshell

[@moon27hall]

This video is perfect. It says everything flat out how it is. Nice work.

[@gamervevo-s8v]

30:35 Actually, it wasn’t days. The entire movie takes place over like 10 hours. Seriously. Palpatine at the start was like “you have 16 hours to surrender or die” at the beginning of the film. So the entire battle with a bajillion DEATH STAR DESTROYERS took less time than the galactic civil war or clone wars ever did

[@keyboardtaskforcephi-3689]

the only reason i liked about this Trilogy is all the Roast videos and memes that come from it

[@DevonLadd]

Im just surprised folks are gonna let a rich mouse's fanfic ruin a story for them.

[@igamerflavor]

the trilogy was fucked the moment they decided to let 3 directors do their own thing without a story thread that connects the movies

[@Schindlerphoto]

They had 30 years to write these movies, if you really think about it. Even worse, J.J. Abrams knew for some time that he was going to be the driver behind these movies, and he could not even be bothered with an outline for all three. By the end of the Last Jedi, it was painfully obvious that there was no true direction they were going with the series. But, the biggest crime of it all, they had one last opportunity to get the old gang back together again, which to be honest, is what the fans wanted to see. Even if it would have been just for part of the movie, they shit on that whole idea, and now it is simply too late, it can never happen. Thanks Disney, for fucking the fans!

[@tj-co9go]

Yeah it's a pity we never saw Luke, Leia, Han, Chewbacca, Lando, C3PO, RDR2 all in one scene. They even got Lando only in the third because they were like "oh shit, we forgot Lando was in the original trilogy, huh, I guess we have to put him somewhere now for nostalgia"

[@johnr.7374]

The last “fuck you” I felt that

[@travisrawlings3552]

this movie felt like a choose your own adventure book but if you read it straight through

[@InvincibleDead85]

These films will not be known by my family. This is how we win.

[@Amesang]

This film is this generation's _Highlander II: The Quickening_ - not just for desecrating what came before, but for being just such a poorly made movie in general.

[@namugriff]

My fave character in Force Awakens was Finn. I remember all the promotion for the film centred mainly on him, only for them to pull the bait and switch at the en. Really wanted Finn to be the new Jedi character and we get to follow his journey from being a stormtrooper, who gets redeemed by the end of the last film. Never bothered with the last two films after they did him the dirty.

[@toughluck8012]

It's so frustrating that they took the most beloved franchise of all time and decided to rush 3 movies out for quick money without ever even having a plan on what they would be about. Daisy ridley said in an interview that half way through filming 9, they didn't know what the ending would be. Like what?!?! That's a bad sign for any movie, but such a high stakes film... they never should have been handed a speeding car without knowing what a steering wheel even is

[@markreierstad2418]

Rey is a great role model for girls. They'll grow up thinking they know everything and that they don't have to try hard, learn, or do anything because, well, Rey. They're the bestest at everything.

[@easyenzzo1658]

I don't mean to beat up a dead horse, but the opening sequence, with the hyperspace jumps, also brutally shits on the originals. Remember how Han Solo refused to jump ONCE without calculating a trajectory, arguing that it can land him and the Falcon in certain death? The sequel heroes jump...2, 3, 4 times in the span of a minute? That sequence still breaks my heart and soul.

[@diskgrinder]

SFX budget: 1 billion dollars. Script: let’s get a badger to do it for half a squirrel

[@LinearConvolution]

Jar Jar Abrams also completely ripped off Raiders of the Lost Ark. Stolen ideas: - opens with looting an artifact from a temple (Sith Wayfinder instead of Monkey Idol) - multiple McGuffin goose chase with the bad guys always just 1 step behind - Exagol the hidden planet, Tanis the lost city - Sith dagger is like the Staff of Ra: place it in the right spot at a vista to reveal a hidden location - pit with a giant serpent instead of a pit of snakes - Chewie is captured and put on a transport that Rey blows up, like when Indy blew up the truck Marion was tied up in - later revealed there was a switcheroo in the transports: Chewie and Marion are both safe - cute pet monkey = Babu Frisk - Rey takes Kylo's interceptor like how Indy stowed away on the Nazis' submarine - Indy chases the armored convoy on horseback, Janna and Finn lead a horse charge on the star destroyer - Palpy shoots lightning in the sky, like the Lost Ark when it is opened One difference: Jar Jar Abrams' movie is a convoluted mess, lacking any of the spark or charm of the original Indiana Jones

[@UnitSe7en]

I don't consider this the end of the Skywalker saga. The end of the Skywalker saga came in 1983.

[@REXX-STRONGSTYLE]

Special effects without a compelling story is a pretty dull thing ...

[@JarenLemon]

"An 18-wheeler spins out of control and it's all like BRAAAUUSH!!! and this huge tanker full of diamonds Like CRAW! CRAW!" "Those aren't Ideas, those are Special Effects!!" ". . . I can't understand the difference."

[@SpremeCalami]

That stuff with Leia is actually insane. How are more people not talking about this.

[@invisiblebob69420]

This "sequel" trilogy always fills me with blind rage whenever I think about it's such an insult to the fans and George Lucas and the actors it's an insult to everyone and a soulless cash grab

[@XBDAX1]

I don’t understand why companies switch directors for movie sequels. Obviously, the director of the first movie is going to have a vision for the trilogy, why would you give the second movie to a different director who most likely has completely different ideas?

[@Gruber-ue6wx]

11:55 To be fair, if Ray really did kill chewy ppl would be absolutely fuming at what would essentially be an off screen death. hella disrespectful for another OG character

[@mattredfield7072]

What sequel trilogy? STAR WARS ended at epidode VI.

[@mala6238]

Correct

[@shepherdstar14]

Yeah I choose to ignore everything star wars after 2005

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Exactly

[@MrZorgbot]

@@shepherdstar14 andor is cinematic masterpiece and rogue one is good, other than that i refuse to acknowledge anything after the first 6

[@annaptakova3242]

You know a movie is bad when not even John Williams can make it watchable.

[@weslar7]

The force awakens didn’t have much potential to be honest. She was a sue from the start

[@thedreadengine]

I hope I’m not the only one disturbed by Luke milking the thing

[@OLDMANTEA]

It’s a metaphor for the franchise

[@markwrath]

20:50 pretty sure he didnt need to fake being annoyed in that scene

[@aidenpoeller1984]

The fact an animated kid show from over 12 years ago is better written and has a better understanding of canon and rules of the universe than a multi million dollar trilogy and that a side character with blue markings on a helmet has more character and a personality

[@caio757]

Disney destroyed star wars

[@parapendejadas4913]

At this point, SW (Disney) is pretty much dead for me, and that hurts coming from a huge fan (read all EU books, love the OT and prequels, have loads of merch, games, etc.) but Disney completely killed the franchise. Until someone with balls comes and retcons what KK did, I am done with SW for good.

[@patmcnamara9149]

The best line in this episode is by far, "Do you hate stakes and tension Disney?! What the fuck is your problem?" What the fuck is their problem indeed.

[@olafgurke4699]

They might be allergic to quality, and subsequently, money.

[@Hepheat75]

This movie felt so rushed, every scene felt like it was ten seconds long.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

i would gladly wipe out the last ten years of Disney Star Wars if i could get back the EU, the games and comics. Wish GL hadn't sold to Disney.

[@bryanpodojil3884]

Guy in the theater I was in had a seizure during the end of this movie. The longer I've had to think about it, the more I believe it was because of how horrible the movie was and not the flashing saber lights.

[@GustavoPinho89]

Mate.... The way you break down the stupidity of the story makes me disgusted at myself for falling for the nice visuals of the Mouse franchise. I'm glad you were not alone whilst dissecting this monstrosity and thankful for you choosing to share it with us

[@NerdyGamerReacts]

There are only 6 films in the Skywalker story, in my opinion, this new trilogy was absolutely disrespectful to the source material it was supposed to continue. 7 was a great start, then Rian Johnson said himself he wanted to do a story completely opposite of 7, something on his own, different, off the cuff, unexpected, not realizing that he was breaking the entirety of the Skywalker story, and characters by disrespecting the heart and soul of the entire thing that George Lucas created...brilliant...🤦🏾‍♂️

[@supfrom1978]

Seven was just a carbon copy of A New Hope, it wasn’t original

[@ianbarefootinthepark]

I agree with everything said about this film, it was completely unenjoyable to watch. I did like the Last Jedi more than the other two, despite its flaws.

[@simplegarak]

I call it "cargo cult" writing. It's writing which can copy the forms, the general shapes of stories, without ever understanding the heart, soul or even working guts of what made the originals work.

[@jaredpeacemaker795]

I am absolutely appalled that you would call this a video game on easy mode. No no no, my friend. This is a video game on story mode.

[@olafgurke4699]

Video game on game journalist mode.

[@michaelschroeck2254]

I find that when I point out bad filmmaking , from script to performances, directing and characters, people tell me I expect too much from a movie. Well, yes. I do. I’m a storyteller / filmmaker myself and I’m not as easily entertained as it appears most modern movie goers are these days. I don’t like the concept of “ here, im shoveling plot in your face by telling you what you’re supposed to be feeling. Eat it and accept it.”

[@jedibrooks7235]

Perfornances depend on the actors, visuals depend on the budget, but writing ... is totally free i have no tolerance for Lazy shitbox writing> if they dont have standards thats their fault

[@maximstepinac6716]

I don't think anyone really likes it. Still wish they made Jar Jar Binks the final villain. Would have been the most hype thing after all the theories and fan interactions with the idea. The pay off would have been huge.

[@dougsmith6262]

​@maximstepinac6716 Some good videos here on KZbin making some pretty good arguments in favor of the 'Jar Jar was a sith lord the whole time' theory.

[@BaloneyPoney007]

The only good thing out of this depressing mess is all the reviews and critiques, that at least give some enjoyment from this travesty. Ill never forgive them for what they've done to the legacy characters of Star Wars!!!

[@paulshri8609]

Rogue Ones hallway scene was better than all three sequels. That one scene...😂😂😂

[@LetsMakeNoSense]

that feel when i can now say the Prequels were better thank god for Euan McGregor having so much fun as Obi wan

[@Parthuran]

I honestly dont remember the Knights of Ren being in this

[@jedibrooks7235]

Nobody Does! what a fucking waste. all of it lol

[@Thorrnn]

Personally the sequel “trilogy” killed Star Wars with the first chapter which should be renamed to “the force went into an infinite coma and died a miserable wretched an humiliating death”

[@jimbeaux89]

There is just no vision for Star Wars. It’s all just a jumbled mess.. It’s such a damn shame.

[@Ben-jl2rh]

George Lucas originally wanted the sequels to be about Luke & Leias Kids trying to rebuild the Republic but having issues with establishing legitimacy and remnants of Palpatines followers trying to destroy the Republic. Like a role reversal of the Originally Trilogy, but the rebels actually harm civilians and forcefully take over planets. If only it happened instead of this mess

[@Zoidberg420]

I like to refer to the Disney movies as "Fake Star Wars". It looks nice but it's like from a bad dream or an alternate reality, only it's *this* reality!

[@noneya3635]

They didn't give Finn a third love interest. They finally found the right... ummm shade of girl friend that the Chinese audiences might be okay with.

[@cgates2]

Algorithm brought me here 3 years late. I’m with it.

[@Wally480]

I hear ya. I remember actively searching for critiques of the movie and not being able to find too much

[@nathanaeldaum9948]

This is amazing. Absolute dagger to the heart of this movie-made-by-rubes in an age where a good film is as hard to find as a $10 lunch.

[@soulchilda597]

'kidnapped and sexually harrased by Rose' 😂😂😂

[@jmal8471]

that last 'fuck you' really came from the heart. i felt it.

[@wearebeggars1]

Kylo's gesture before killing the Knights of Ren was supposed to be a memberberry of Han Solo's gesture that he did in Return of the Jedi.

[@jedibrooks7235]

yea i know lol and it makes no sense and doesnt Fit his personality or character why teh hell would kylo ren do that . he wasnt alive in Rotj Its the lazyiest and cheapest of call backs. These thins can be charming when earned and set up well but this aint it

[@RAWDEAL064]

You know, the way you explain it makes it seem like a bad Ubisoft game...

[@chaos_sam7796]

The way he describes it makes it seem like a "good" Ubisoft game

[@JoeMama-mm7wb]

Fun fact: the director of this movie has changed their name, has done plastic face surgery and lives in a hidden bunker now…

[@DanielGonzalez-dr7so]

The force awakens was rotten from the start

[@iamwahman]

Exactly my guy, we need to remember that that film is supposed to be a sequel to Return of the Jedi and it is the stupidest thing ever in so many ways. I get the blame to TLJ but Force Awakens started the plague.

[@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging]

The only thing missing from your excellent analysis is here the economic one. Studios make soulless movies like this bc they are without risk and are profitable. There’s an excellent article called how the death budget cinema left a generation of film makers Mia about how market deregulation and captialism destroy creativity in film bc of corporate mergers

[@verazunrus4834]

In my mind the Sequels never happened

[@leeharris8102]

i was born in 1980 so, the prequels to me were the first Star wars i got to really get into. will admit that Spaceballs was my favourite movie when i was 14.. loving star wars then, seeing what Disney did was soul destroying. Ray in the first 2 movies, never trained and could do everything. i still do not know how she knew she could mind fluff people. when we got to the rise of skywalker, why have her training?? it made no sense to me, she was already the most powerful in the series ever. calling herself skywalker at the end was just sickening. she is and always will be a sith..

[@Ta2dwitetrash]

Yeah, born around the same time. And all my cousins that were a few years older were really into star wars. Star wars was cool. But by the time I was 5 Saturday morning cartoons and the rise of the toy companies was in full swing. I was too busy waiting for the new lucky charms commercial series introducing the horseshoe marshmallow.

[@guyjperson]

Sorry I missed this three years ago. Great job. Well written critique

[@hydriumstudio]

32:33 you're wrong though... it would be sauron's granddaughter.

[@animetrashamvs]

You know the thing i hate the most about the sequel trilogy is how many ideas they stole from the expanded universe stories. Rey is Jaina Solo, Kylo is Jacen Solo, they had a force link (cuz they were fuckin twins and it made sense) Dark Empire had Palpatine resurrected in a clone body, even Hux has similarities to Canor Jax. So not only do they recycle characters and scenes from the original trilogy, every "original" character from this trilogy is a bootleg version of EU characters. These movies offer absolutely NO new ideas.

[@quipis]

I have to admit that, when the movie came out, the hype was so high that I intentionally ignored all the flaws. But the proof that I really didn't like it is that I never watched it again.

[@teamsonicx3127]

I swear, this dude is my spirit animal! You explained perfectly how I feel about this movie.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

I'm so glad I didn't go see this trash and it confirms that the ST is a massive failure and that Kathleen Kennedy's hubris along with JJ's mystery box BS and Rian Johnson's ego is what set Disney down the path of self destruction.

[@alfredsupersauce]

People after watching The Last Jedi: "Man that was the most atrocious thing I have ever seen, surely they can't do worse." Disney: "Hold my beer."

[@mattharrison2330]

Also ....Not My Star Wars. These movies aren't cannon. As far as I'm concerned these movies never happened.

[@zootopiawilson]

I agree. The only redeeming thing about RoS is that it gave Rian Johnson the finger.

[@Transilvanian90]

@@zootopiawilson Yup, and I appreciate that, but somehow I think RoS is still (slightly) worse than TLJ. Both are shit, but somehow RoS is even more asinine because it's TRYING to "salvage" things and fails so absolutely at it.

[@primesonic4459]

​@Transilvanian90 for Me RoS is the shittier movie, but TLJ is the more insulting movie for how much it character assassinates Luke

[@anakin8087]

Your speech at the end was glorious

[@joe9739]

It should've been a Ben Solo trilogy, learning under Luke. The New Jedi Order works with the Republic to fight either First Order, or a Crime Syndicate headed by a Dark Side user.

[@hrthrhs]

Your entire ending wrap up was spot on and was a good summary.

[@grumpus5248]

The whole Force ghost chorus was just one-upping Harry Potter's chat with the dead before sacrificing himself to Voldemort.

[@paytonyoder1260]

Starkiller in The Force Unleashed games had a much better scene using force on a spaceship. It takes both hands and a long sequence to pull a Star Destroyer that was flying in his direction to the ground.

[@poeticsilence047]

Too bad he is not cannon. Love that character and those games.

[@ShaneDouglas713]

FACTS

[@ShaneDouglas713]

​@poeticsilence047 Sad but true...

[@davidsavage5630]

Here's an idea. The New Republic. Leia is Chancellor. Luke is the Grand Master Jedi over a new Jedi order. Han and Lando are commanders of the Millennium fleet that protects Coruscant. All their children are either pilots or Jedi in training. The good guys are in power. Then have some group or race that isn't associated with the Sith or the Force or anything like that at all invade the New Republic all Independence Day style or maybe like the Borg. Just something totally new to Star Wars. Then you don't have to do a thousand mental backflips to justify why these bad guys even exist. They just consume and destroy and move on and the New Republic is next. See? That's super simple. And you can further Luke, Han and Leia's stories through their conflict with this new threat. It's really not that hard..

[@remnock]

*Cough* yuuzhan vong *Cough*

[@pohjanakka4992]

Frankly, even if they had started earlier on with the story they tried to tell with those damn sequels it might have become a workable story. Leia's and Han's marriage is having problems because they argue about their son, maybe Han didn't like that Leia sent him to be trained by her brother. Luke is sensing some entity trying to get into Ben's head, and is trying to figure out what to do about it and how to help his nephew, while he is also sensing that somewhere there is a ridiculously strong Force user the bad guys are also trying to find. Start from that. Ben becomes Kylo for a while, Rey leaves the planet that was somehow shielding her and blocking her Force powers, the next generations is struggling trying to deal with their powers, and the old generation is working towards a solution while not completely in agreement as what would be the best way to do it, remnants of the Empire forces have found a new leader and are getting stronger... it could so easily have worked. Hell, maybe even add those yuuzhan vongs into the last movie. The New Republic is getting close to defeating the bad guys, but a new threat surprises them both, and maybe they have to combine forces in order to survive. That would have been different.

[@mrpunchyface774]

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Kathleen's mission was to destroy George's legacy. That is why these movies fail.