A keto diet raises LDL for some

A new study reports a dramatic rise in LDL cholesterol after following a keto diet. What doe this mean for you? Before we worry too much about the results, let's explore the details of the trial to see if it applies to you at all.
Read more about the study:
www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/13/3/814
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[@murrynathan]

My quality life has improved significantly with Keto and high LDL. I‘ll never return to eating randomly.

[@StayCoolKeto]

*Ive just done my bloods a few days ago. My total cholesterol was 185, Triglycerides 16, HDL 65 and LDL 113. I was pretty happy with the results. Ill do a video on my bloods soonish if anyone reading this is interested. Thanks for your video DD* 💪💪💪

[@carmensalome]

@staycoolketo I'm interested

[@StayCoolKeto]

@@carmensalome Thanks! might be out next week! ive been a little busy so please stay tuned ! have a great day

[@gesheepistemology8050]

Not carnivore and not in ketosis...my bet!

[@StayCoolKeto]

@@gesheepistemology8050 I dont do carnivore. Ketones were around 4ish

[@gesheepistemology8050]

@@StayCoolKeto Hahahahhahahahaha....you are a pathological liar then!

[@saltrock9642]

My LDL did rise some but HDL went up very nicely and Triglycerides fell off the map. I’m good to go! Thanks Doc!

[@murrynathan]

Bret Scher is simply the most likable doctor on KZbin!

[@siriusfun]

Dave Feldman has a great handle on this - he refers to those whose LDL jumps up as "Lean Mass Responders". His channel is full of scientific data and insights.

[@gesheepistemology8050]

BULLSHIT...it is all carnivore and proper strict keto

[@psychespades]

This is very interesting - I once was told by my doctor that my LDL was too low and probably suffer from malnutrition, when I asked what I should do he said eat more carbo... (while my diet was so unbalanced at that time and carbo basically consisted 70% of my diet, and I' had been having insulin resistance for a long time), now I'm happily on a low-carb diet and everything is getting better. People tend to believe in unbelievably simplified theories when it comes to health and nutrition, which baffles me a lot....

[@rachidramdani6336]

Tried all food diets only keto worked for me and I am very happy no going back to carbs and sugars

[@Brandi_the_Baker]

Thanks for the great info always. I am not worried about a little LDL when my diabetes is killing me slowly every day.

[@nkaujmoobleeg]

Good answer!! Love it!

[@jakehayes1345]

When I went Keto my LDL went from around 130 to 210. All my other blood markers improved. HDL around 90. I have been Keto/Low carb for about 4 years. When I fasted (36 hrs) my LDL went to 340! CRP < .8 A1C < 5 trigs =60 I'm not diabetic and had 15 pounds to lose., which I did.

[@StayCoolKeto]

Thats great! well done! I love looking at bloods! I got mine done a few days ago

[@hardeepkogar]

340! Not dangerous?

[@juliegray7658]

Great report on your focused work, an inspiration for sure.

[@uaebifvideo5472]

Longer fasts effect the LDL results ? What should we do before a lipid blood test ? 12 hrs , or no fasting ?

[@jakehayes1345]

@@uaebifvideo5472 all's I can say is what happens w/ me.... it may be peculiar genetics... not sure.

[@Angel-rv1mt]

My triglycerides decreased from 400+ to 98, and my HDL increased over 40% since beginning a ketogenic lifestyle. My dense LDL decreased, and I’ve lost 64 pounds in 8 months. Yet...my cardiologist is again wanting to prescribe statins because my LDL & total increased. I discontinued statins due to relentless joint pain that even disrupted my sleep. It took me a while to ascertain the cause, but months after stopping them, I no longer have pain. I wish more doctors would develop an open mind, do the research and educate themselves on the benefits of living a ketogenic lifestyle. It’s uncomfortably difficult challenging our physicians on this topic.

[@maristelaaquinde1749]

My LDL increased but triglycerides decreased. Lost 20 lbs in 6 months.

[@angiesrecipes]

Your Doc. is crazy...didn't he or she ask how or what you did to improve your other blood marks??

[@Angel-rv1mt]

She knows. I told her I want a CAC scan befire even discussing statins. My husband’s numbers are better than mine, but she increased his statin. It’s so frustrating. A presenter at the 2020 Denver conference happens to be 30 miles from us. We’re seeking a second opinion.

[@greggray3741]

My mom’s cardiologist told her she could take 10 mg of Crestor once per week. She takes it every Sunday night. Follow blood work revealed total cholesterol dropped from 219 to 199. She suffered side effects while taking Crestor daily but has no side effects now. I’m not pro Statin but just wanted to pass this along.

[@Angel-rv1mt]

Thanks for telling me. That’s good to know and something I can discuss if it comes up again after my CAC. @@greggray3741

[@aliendroneservices6621]

LDL is the good cholesterol. Well, actually, all cholesterol is good cholesterol (as long as it's not oxidized).

[@juliegray7658]

HDL is the “good” cholesterol. My LDL went up on high fat moderate protein but it was the fluffy kind. However my HDL was not affected it was still impressive at 80. Triglycerides went up a bit so I will up the protein snd reduce fat somewhat and see what happens.

[@braincancerwarrior]

@@juliegray7658 ldl and hdl are not even cholesterol… they are carrier proteins…. Thanks for being dumb!

[@happygirl65]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6DHZGmKg6yWi6s. Something to consider if you choose.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

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[@videogazer801]

@@juliegray7658well, did you try doing that? If so, what happened?

[@Stuart.Branson.]

LDL is not dangerous, it's part of the repair system, so if a keto diet makes this go up, it's doing more repairs.

[@esther.f.g]

My LDL raised on low carb, my doctor is worried but I am not, please more eggs to my plate

[@nkaujmoobleeg]

🤣🤣🤣🤣agreed!!

[@videogazer801]

Not worried? Are you delusional? LDL is the bad cholesterol, the one that causes heart attacks aka death ☠️. You have a death wish if you keep this up. Hope your cholesterol has improved since this post

[@rjrnj1]

I'm being hounded by my doctor because my cholesterol went from 170 to 250 and my ldl went from 120 to 170. I'd just become a ketovore, had lost about 40lbs and was off all my meds. I requested further testing a la Dr. Ford Brewer (LPT, MPO, HsCRP, CIMT and the ONLY one they'd consider was the HsCRP). I'm going to check out the Princeton Study and Cleveland Clinic.

[@Philly1958]

Raised my LDL to 200. But also raised my HDL to 95. Apparently I am a lean mass hyper-responder

[@StayCoolKeto]

wow 95 HDL! mine was 65

[@CCC-ze8pj]

Exactly the same same here and my triglycerides went to 60

[@TheFeelyourself]

thats great, read some peeps saying it raised their CAC score, which is scary

[@injanhoi1]

This is very interesting. I am not quite on a keto diet. Let's say low carb. I am still eating alot of carbs like vegetables and bit of a fruit. Eat only in an 8 hour window. So intermittent fasting. Lost weight, have more energy, brain works better ( I feel sharper). Will reduce my chicken and red meat consumption soon and eat more fish. I like the results it gives me but concerned about the LDL. Maybe the perfect diet is just low carb but not to the extreme. Will get a blood test in March next year. So far lost 8 kg.

[@mystyboarder910]

LDL is severely misunderstood. The study we go off was done in the early 1900s. New research is needed but I'll take my high ldl all day long. I've been in ketosis for 2.5yrs and I'm never going back

[@tweetiebird100]

🤣🤣🤣

[@videogazer801]

I think I know what will be your caused of death ☠️…. Keto.

[@olivia8979]

Keto did raise my LDL. I am not concerned about it at all, but it definitely did raise my LDL.

[@nkaujmoobleeg]

🤣🤣🤣🤣it's a good thing n it suppose too! Don't know what he's talking about!

[@its-violet]

The small one or the big one?

[@247drycleaners9]

I've been on Keto for 2 and a half years. I've seen my bp drastically improve, I lost and kept off 25 lbs, heart burn went away and HDL and Triglycerides got a little better as did my A1C (53). However my LDL went from about 125 before Keto to 304. My doctor is in full blown panic and I must say that it's causing me stress as well. I don't want to go on a statin but I don't want to die either. I'm a 59 year old male and last year I had a heart check up by my cardiologist who found no blockage anywhere. Of course he also told me to quit being foolish and get on a statin. Help!

[@bogdanelvaleriu8213]

Hy, hope you are ok. Did you eventually go on statins?

[@247drycleaners9]

@@bogdanelvaleriu8213 Not yet. Diet is what caused the escalation so I'm hoping that diet can reverse the situation. I've started a hybrid Mediterranean keto diet and exercise. I'll test my blood work again in 6 months.

[@demonstars1991]

@@247drycleaners9how is the latest test going?

[@247drycleaners9]

I got a calcium score of zero and I have no plaque in my carotid arteries. My LDL was lowered to 220. My triglycerides were 79 and HDL 73. My weight is down from 207 3 years ago to 172 now. However, I had a TIA 2 weeks ago that was very scary. So far the tests have no found the cause but my doctor is convinced it's my LDL and my unwillingness to take a statin and to continue a mostly animal based diet instead of plant based that is the cause. I'm still confused. @@demonstars1991

[@PaulBengtsson]

Have you done the test? Like to know because my LDL is extremely high.

[@sabby123456789]

Considering how a large minority of people have the APOE4 allele, I believe it would be helpful if Diet Doctor had more information about APOE4 and saturated fat. Are we APOE4s really doomed to replacing fatty meat with lean meat and olive oil?

[@rob28803]

Yes, what happens in maintenance mode, when the excess body fat has been burned off?

[@fabio.1]

Please add video transcriptions and auto-generated captions to assist those I share the videos with. Thanks.

[@TheMatrixxandRhodesShow]

My LDL was sky high last time I did my blood work. However my A1C, blood sugar, HDL were all good and I lost over 24 pounds on keto. No more prediabetes for me and high blood sugars are history. Therefore I am not worried about LDL being high. High triglycerides are worse than LDL. Mine are normal too.

[@contrarian717]

My testing also shows LDL rise higher the lower my A1c goes

[@brucerubenstein7843]

Could the increase in LDL on keto be explained in part by the fact that we become so good at burning our own body fat that there’s never really any such thing for us as a truly “fasting” cholesterol level? We are either burning ingested fat or burning body fat, but never neither. Testing people on keto in a fasted state might not be that much different from testing people on a normal diet after lunch?

[@ExpertAdviceTV]

I lost 20 lbs on a clean keto diet but my LDL’s went from 144 to 270. Doctor wants to put me on statins. Will try going off keto first.

[@brothercaleb]

I’m contemplating the same

[@bakingbunny198]

Ask for a particle size on your blood to see if you are Patttern A or B before considering any statins. It may cost you about $150 but is considerably less than taking statins for the rest of your life!

[@videogazer801]

Well, what happened?

[@alchemy1]

I am 65 Height 67 inches 5 months ago before Keto lab test result Weight 221 lbs. TC 183 LDL 104 HDL 40 TG 221 A1C 5,7 ------------------------- Now lab result. 5 months being on Ket. After 36 hr. fast. Weight 174 lbs. TC 293 LDL 225 HDL 60 TG 57 A1C 5.7

[@videogazer801]

What specifically are you eating to cause cholesterol to shoot through the roof like that?

[@iwayned]

Thank you for the professional overview. I wonder the purpose in publishing this "study". One comment I can make is that my cholesterol floats up and down and when it is in an up ward trend I use oatmeal (1 Tbsp in 500 mL of H2o) to bring it back down. Recent blood test results next week.

[@contrarian717]

Wayne this procedure still works for you? (Personally I love my fats, don't want carbs, but yes, have also started the oats, to curb my LDL, will test in 2 weeks time). As part of my test I also drop my eggs from 5 a day to 2 every other day

[@lunathea7711]

I'm one of those people who are not trying to loose weight but just want to stay away from sugar and high carb. Just did my bloodwork done few days ago and my ldl was sky high and hdl was high as well. I do follow clean keto but I don't eat too much protein as I'm pescatarian but mostly vegetarian. I'm still waiting for other results to see if I should be concerned.

[@Eros13adios]

Check Dr. Berg here on youtube.He goes over this topic of LDL and Keto.

[@gerardcooke587]

After several months following and appreciative of your clinical approach, where are you located in this world? Canada? Wishful thinking. To connect, info please?

[@dietdoctor]

Diet Doctor is headquartered in Sweden.

[@Thisndat80]

Were they doing "clean" keto?

[@petercyr3508]

My latest LDL is way down to 208 from 280 last test. Must be something wrong!

[@bumblebee7597]

I am a very healthy woman, started keto around 11 months ago to lose some 10 lbs that I had gained during covid (still was at a healthy weight). I lost weight, all my parameters are healthy as always, however my LDL (which has ALWAYS been in the normal range) bumped up, A1C =4.7, triglycerides perfect. The only problem is LDL cholesterol and my doc is asking me to quit keto. And I don't want to. Please help 😢 and yes my doc is stressing me out.

[@cadillacblue3412]

It raised mine from 26 to 98

[@stuartgoldstein1856]

12% relative risk? Don't do what you claim others do wrong.

[@ShortRecipe101]

And then everyone just became registered dieticians in the comment section

[@elijahizere]

Give me an well statistically isolated study on LDL showing how high LDL impacts health controlling for HDL we ratio and insulin resistance. If you're a doctor and you can't do this, I have some news for you.

[@gesheepistemology8050]

SOME?? I say ALL! 120 to 235 me

[@glimmrgirl]

I just got my results after 8mos of keto. My total went up from 179 (normal) to 261. LDL went up from standard 128 to high 175. 😮 but my good cholesterol more then doubled! From 33 to 71. So I don’t know what to think of it. Am I saving or killing myself with keto?

[@videogazer801]

@dontlookdown5565you speak the absolute truth, as I too cannot accept that having a sky-high LDL is healthy, regardless if the other markers are good. It’s just senseless to have LDL hovering so high.

[@UnknownUser-sc6jx]

So a healthy person with no diabetes and doesn't want to lose weight shouldn't eat low carb?

[@MuhammadIqbal-ex9yv]

Before Triglycerides was =476 After Deitiing Triglycerides Controlled =125. But Before dieting LDL was=133. After Dieting LDL Is=213 After Dieting I lost 5kg weight and LDL rised 133to 200.could you plse someone advise me what is the reason for High LDL during low carb deitie?

[@dietdoctor]

You may find this helpful. www.dietdoctor.com/keto-diet-raises-ldl-cholesterol

[@333BellaLee]

LDL may not necessarily be too high on a clean Keto diet but rather it is at the proper level. Perhaps just like vitamin D3, our medical advisors have informed us of too low a recommended level.

[@videogazer801]

@@dontlookdown5565 you’re damned right about a very high HDL being a health concern. I would want high LDL, regardless of the other test markers.

[@WM78]

After 6 month of keto my LDL skyrocket to 380🤕.

[@lejohn9281]

My keto diet causes my high LDL, but but every else in my blood test looking very good, over 3 years my Dr wants to see my every 6 months, 😢I ignored him 😊

[@audreyjackson3913]

This is something I have to worry about so what do I do

[@dietdoctor]

This guide should be helpful! www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/lower-ldl-cholesterol

[@jfresh2054]

My family has a history is heart disease. Is this okay to try?

[@dietdoctor]

You will want to check with your physician. Here's our cholesterol guide for more info! www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/cholesterol-basics

[@WORKOUT--1]

🌹🆕🇵🇸🌹♥🌺🌹🌷Value and useful information Thank you Doctor My friend I wish you success and success and success

[@Elijah8890]

sugar and junk food raises LDL for most

[@asenabulgan5485]

My father in law has started to do the keto diet. He has Diabetes Typ 2 but also Heart deseases. Suffert from Heart attacks, why his doctor warned not to cut the carbs dramaticly out of his diet.He was told not to let his body produce ketones. His sugar Level improved only in 3 weeks but his colesterol went up... now he is taking those pills... cause his doctor said, with keto he‘ll die... i should also mention he‘s Alzheimers... i wish i‘d know what to do..

[@poolking25]

Keto + Intermittent fasting will be huge for him. I would try to avoid statins for cholesterol since there are.many side effects, including diabetes. He should find another doctor that is familiar with low carb. Diet doctor has a site that helps you find doctors like this

[@mitsim]

It has been proven that statin drugs can increase your chances of having Alzheimer's. Of course they do their best to deny this. Me, I wouldn't want to even take the chance!

[@87waterbabie]

Try look for Dr. Nadir Ali’s channel. He is a cardiologist in usa and he changed his medical approach 6 years ago to encourage his patient to do keto and intermittent fasting, he also mentioned statins will make the dementia worst as LDL is important cholesterol for brain as well.

[@MyContestPix]

So much research has been done over the last few years. And it's not looking good for obtaining low cholesterol as an endpoint. Science/studies point to flawed studies and strong opposition to the "high cholesterol" - bad syndrome. A better assessment of CVD is your Triglycerides/Hdl ratio!! I've done my own research. Check out Dr David Diamond, Dr Robert Ludwig, Dr Paul Mason, Dr Nadir and Dr Tom Dayspring. They will blow your mind!!! All meat/fat and low carb diet! Stay away from Fructose, a poison! • Statins cause liver damage, muscle damage/fatigue, diabetes, dementia, osteoporosis, ER dysfunction, muscle destruction. Test his ApoB levels. There's a direct correlations between that and CVD!

[@syumassh]

This happened to me, lost a bunch of weight and felt better; but LDL increased significantly like 20-30%. Doesn’t bode well for me because my job requires me to do a medical checkup every year. Ended up increasing a little bit of my carbs and gaining back a little bit of weight, but still under my original heavier weight.

[@Bhatmann]

Only add in carbs two days before blood testing. Your ldl will drop. Then return to low carb after.

[@siriusfun]

A new job is a lot easier to get than metabolic health.

[@aaronmccreeps5202]

You should sue your job for for HIPPA Law violations and discrimination. I would in a second. Any good lawyer would squash that beef. Withholding raises and monetary value for improving your health? This isn't Russia

[@DaveOriginallyfromBrooklyn]

I know a doc. He likes keto. But he says most get highway ldl

[@colleenloffredo7895]

It affected my 2 daughters who are both a size 8, so this isn’t true!! And they regularly exercise!!!! So wrong

[@philthompson1097]

LDL is a mathematical fantasy. The risk calculator doesn't use it, so I have no interest. When I had a measurement of LDL it added up with HDL to more than the total. There is a whole lot of printed stuff we need to shred and revisit the maths without this dependent variable in the analysis.

[@mitsim]

agreed. If you go on the internet to the cardiac risk calculator, they don't ask for LDL. My doctor thinks I should be on it. But, the risk calculator said I am not a candidate for statins.

[@BULLISHGUY-fg3so]

All my cholesterol went up 😢

[@rosilatrailera]

This paper probably paid by vegans, all those ppl didnt need to lose weight. so comparing apples and oranges as usual. most keto ppl are diabetic or obese and the Cholesterol and triglecirides are stored in our fat cells, when we stop carb intake the fat is released and we burn the triglecirides, but the cholesterol is slowly excreted with bile and fiber by the liver, that is why it shows in our bloodstream. after the weight loss, and you arrive at your normal stable weight your ldl goes back to normal.(chol 226 hdl ratio 5.7-hdl 40~LDL126~-hba1c 5.4 - d47 b12 476~TRIG 337~trig non-hdl 186. )

[@cathybroadus4411]

I’m so sick of these jokers trying to correlate these numbers to something tangible. They need to worry something real. Bump a rise in LDL if my ayce is 50 pounds lighter.

[@chazwyman8951]

You cannot, absolutely cannot loose ANY weight without increasing LDL. LDL carries fat around the body for metabolic processing. Without LDL fat stays where it is. So if you are loosing weight and your doctor wags his finger at you, tell him that.

[@videogazer801]

What video told you that?

[@ajlee-wright7211]

Once again they will try anything to ridicule KETO because it works.

[@kunalsingh4u]

Who sponsered nutrient study. Write one medication in modern science that has zero adverse affect. Keto diet have major variation. It is easy to manipulate any diet plan to get study result. What was the source of fat ? What was the source of protein ? And what carb compotent included. Sample size is so small (17) . That logic if applied to vaccination of covid 19 should we ever use it ?

[@F_T2D_Drew]

Let's not confuse dirty lazy keto with healthy keto. Results will be very different.

[@jimo7068]

I recommend looking at Dave Feldman's research at cholesterolcode.com, especially his keto-to-whitebread/turkey sandwich 1 week test, and his "lean mass hyper responder" thesis.

[@pattyv341]

Dr Bret, you speak too fast and it makes it hard to follow you. Maybe if you had a chart we can look at while you talk, could help that.

[@pattyv341]

@@maxibake9323 thanks!

[@Bhatmann]

You can slow down the playback speed.

[@cps_Zen_Run]

I play these at least 1.5x or faster. LOL

[@siriusfun]

You can also slow the video speed, as well.

[@pattyv341]

@@siriusfun how do you do that?