A. Lange & Söhne Odysseus Buyer's Guide: Prices, Review, And Lange's Sports Watch Explained

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The A Lange & Sohne Odysseus 363.038 in white gold is the most opulent version of the German watchmaker’s flagship sports watch. The Odysseus Datomatic launched in 2019 to mark the first time that Glashütte’s most illustrious watchmaker had offered a sports watch option. With a luminescent dial, automatic winding, 120-meter water resistance, and a choice of straps, this Odysseus in white gold is a true sports watch, but it sacrifices none of the rich detail for which Lange watchmaking is renowned.
Compared to rivals from Patek Philippe and Audemars Piguet, the Odysseus is more exclusive, newer, and comfortable with breaking from the design conventions of the 1970s and Gerald Genta. The 40.5mm white gold case is neither a conventional Lange dress watch design nor the tonneau-like form favored by integrated-bracelet sports watch designers. Unlike the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak, Patek Philippe Nautilus, and the Vacheron Constantin Overseas, the A Lange and Sohne Odysseus is designed to look natural when paired with either a bracelet or a strap.
The white gold Odysseus can be equipped from the factory with the buyer’s choice of a calf leather strap or a black rubber strap, but no bracelet is offered with the white gold model at the time of this review’s publication. The 2022 Odysseus titanium has launched with a matching bracelet in grade five titanium, and the stainless steel Odysseus includes a steel bracelet. All versions of the Odysseus sports watch include quick-release lugs designed to permit easy removal and replacement of bracelets or straps. The bracelets include deployant clasps with push-button micro adjustments.
Each A Lange & Sohne Odysseus is powered by a manufacture caliber L155.1. Although based on the automatic caliber L086, the L155.1 has been modified with a higher beat rate of 28,800 vibrations per hour and a full balance bridge; both changes are designed to make the movement more durable and rugged for sports watch applications. The L155.1 is the first A Lange & Sohne movement to operate at 4Hz. A power reserve of 50 hours is energized by a central winding rotor. Stop seconds (hacking) and a quick-set system for the calendar permit easy and precise adjustment. The day and date displays are set using the top and bottom horns of the crown guard structure.
Caliber L155.1 is decorated using Lange’s traditional finishing techniques. All bridges and plates are constructed from “German silver,” an alloy of nickel, copper, and zinc. The bridge beneath the winding rotor is designed to reference the shape of “three-quarter” bridges from the era of pocket watch manufacturing in Glashutte. Mirrored anglage is evident on the edge of each bridge, and the movement employs broad “Glashutte” stripes on the tops of bridges.
The base plate bears evidence of engine-turned “perlage,” and Lange employs a satin metal surfacing to wheels. Both fired-blue steel screws and black polished screws are employed. One golden “chaton” holds the pivot of the escape wheel and provides another link to historic German pocket watch manufacturing. As with all A Lange & Sohne movements, the L155.1 includes a hand-engraved balance cock. A black-polished fine regulator allows A Lange & Sohne watchmakers to make precise adjustments to the rate of the watch.
Applies to A Lange & Sohne Odysseus references 363.117; 363.068; 363.038; 363.179
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00:00 Intro
00:21 History
01:07 The Watch
03:34 Standout Features
04:43 Box Set
05:35 Fit & Feel
05:57 Is it for You?
06:26 Alternatives
07:39 Conclusion
08:00 Watch Specs

[@TimQueenan]

Loved this "collector's take" format. More please! (Especially for independents.)

[@Antelope1013]

I was able to get the WG on the rubber strap in Dec. It is a watch that has to been seen in the flesh. Love at first sight

[@zoobee]

I enjoyed this video so much, only partly because of the watch, but because Tim clearly enjoyed it, with all the classical references. Very well scripted mate! As for the watch, I got to say its a stunner. The dial is idiosyncratic and distinct, and when I glance at it, it seems a little disparate, but when you actually gaze at it, it is unique and works. I mean if you can afford it, take one of these over a Nautilus for sure

[@tbd1613]

Proud owner of one. Have to say that this watch is better than any sports models from PP, AP or Rolex. So easy to wear and just stunning. Awesome review. Lange's time has come. Id rather buy any Lange than any other maker. I predict that their aftermarket prices will rocket.

[@craigf4660]

Liar

[@RasenRambo23]

Didn't turn out so hot. Prices have been basically flat or declining, in line with the rest of the watch market over the last year. Still my grail watch.

[@CokeWithIceAndLemon]

Heading to my Lange AD to befriend him and talk about my “passion” for Lange, fingers crossed i get on the list, Saturday afternoon sorted!

[@jameskwon7617]

Great Great video as usual. I do wonder why ALS' boxes and presentation materials are so plain. Perhaps the Teutonic tendencies coming through. They could do better.

[@1000lightyrs]

Man, Sean's forearm/wrist skin and hair density is absolutely perfect. Nice watch.

[@klickme888]

An excellent review and buying guide! Love this new format! The market price of the WG Odysseus has gone up a lot! The new titanium version will be even through the roof for sure.

[@GabrielX84]

One of my favorite timepieces, A shame the Miami boutique won’t even take your name for one. It’s absolutely stunning. The roosters will come home soon & the watch industry will beg us to buy like in the early 2000s

[@christopherh.8124]

Is Miami really not taking names at all, even with a good purchase history or bundling?? I know of people who have recently gotten on the waitlist at other boutiques.

[@MasterFornicatorx1]

@@christopherh.8124 fwiw I just got onto the WG Odysseus waitlist after putting down on a platinum Datograph (and already purchased a Lange 1).

[@jolness1]

Love this series! And this watch. 🍻 And Tim’s references to being between Scylla and Charybdis!

[@masqueman01]

SUG/Sinn makes the case!? SURPRISED! 😮 love this watch❤

[@martinwild9192]

How refreshing to view a presentation in a raw format . . . introduction, fact, fact, fact, alternative, summary! Just for the record, I'll take the HECTOR first, even before the exquisite MOSER 🙂

[@thatmexicanguy2989]

The only thing lange lacks in is the boxes IMO 🤷🏻‍♂️ the long ones for the saconia are nice because they’re so simple but the square ones lack something, I’m not sure what but they can definitely do better 😂 everything else about the brand is amazing, blows the patek and AP out of the water

[@nishantprakash5928]

Easily blows AP out of proportion. Although i still believe Patek is on par with Lange. At the end of the day it is one's taste that matters. But again, Being on par with Patek is a huge feat in itself

[@amintaslneto]

Nice video Tim. Good to see Lange gaining appreciation in the sports watch jonra. I just wish they could bring more Odysseus to the market but I'm sure this is not gonna happen any time soon🙂 Cheers, Amintas

[@russell996]

Great review Tim. Odysseus is a beautiful piece. 👍

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Thanks, Russell! Best, Tim

[@Anonymous.User.0419]

I am a big fan of ALS, but this Odysseus's design does not sit well as a sports watch in me; feels like a boosted classic Saxonia. Perhaps the second generation will be more distinct.

[@TheLeeattwood]

Great review, your knowledge of timepieces is incredible 👍🏻🇬🇧

[@chrispurzer9461]

Great content: No surprise. Leanin' on Homer? BRILLIANTLY conceived n cleverly (Odysseus?) executed. 😉

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

I'm glad somebody appreciated that ;--) Best, Tim

[@amitfromisrael5006]

This is imo the best and most beautiful sports watch, no AP, no VC, no Patek

[@chadallen8490]

It doesn't matter how nice the finishing is when its ugly. Between this and the Code whatever from AP, what is the Holy Trinity +1 thinking?

[@braveheartq5540]

love the nixie tube clock

[@giakhanhthehinhcoban]

I really enjoyed this series. Can’t wait for that Hector to be featured one day.

[@johnnewman3316]

This watch is perfection.

[@999NINE99]

The steel bracelet looks great, however, the way they blended the leather band is not pleasing to the eye. Because the watch itself is so well done, it makes up for the awkward integration.

[@christopherh.8124]

I agree the bracelet looks better (on the wrist, not in photos), although you and I are probably in the minority!

[@uptheorg]

Actually, it doesn't make up for the awkward integration. See my comment below -- I owned one and got rid of it after 3 months for that very reason.

[@dsvillalva]

For future videos please consider discussing availability at retail, average wait times etc. I have a Saxonia moonphase bought at retail and even being an existing customer, I cannot get on the steel Odysseus waitlist at their boutique. Word is, you have to own two Lange pieces before you’re even considered

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

I'll do my best, but we're a preowned vendor with only occasional windows into retail sales. I do know that you'll be forced to buy a bunch of other stuff from Lange just to be considered for an Odysseus, and at that point, I'm looking for alternatives. Best, Tim

[@dsvillalva]

@@the1916companywatchreviews Thanks for the reply. Yes I need to remind myself you're a pre-owned vendor and more importantly a trusted vendor. Like they say, you don't just buy the watch but you buy the guy selling you the watch. Great video I am a huge Lange fan boy now just from the Saxonia which is a 'modest' and under-the-radar piece in their current collection.

[@nikomos6276]

I’ve always found the bracelet integration and lug spacing too odd on this watch. It looks much, much better on a strap.

[@smittysmitty481]

Total beaut!

[@LlyleHunter]

My other consideration would be the Breguet Marine. Both are beautiful watches and neither are seen on many wrists.

[@zoobee]

great suggestion, the Marine really is good, not widely seen and has a similar vibe to the Odysseus, a classic refined watchmaker in the sports field

[@LlyleHunter]

Thank you

[@donnellpurkett5070]

Love your energy. Watch not so much

[@uptheorg]

Thanks for your take! Here's mine: I bought this white gold Odysseus from WatchBox last year for what looks like a bargain now (April 2022) -- $55,000. I owned it for about three months before I let it go. While this was not my only ALS piece, I never bonded with it because of the lugs and the way they look sticking out from the case. There is no elegance to it and it just doesn't work for me. I certainly appreciate all the specs of the watch and the movement is excellent, but to make this a regular or daily wearer, which was my goal, I just couldn't abide. Sorry, but the watch looks ugly with those lugs.

[@ugaais]

The bracelet needs a redesign, the dial is amazing, but the steel bracelet looks like they kidnapped an Omega designer and finished his design to ALS standards

[@akislolis]

Συγχαρητήρια. Άριστες γνώσης ιστορίας και μυθολογίας. Λίγοι Έλληνες διαθέτουν τέτοιου είδους μόρφωση. Χαιρετισμούς από κάποιον που φοράει βαθύ σκάφος 😉

[@nishantprakash5928]

Hey, which language are you speaking, looks really cool to me.

[@akislolis]

@@nishantprakash5928 did you watch the Video?

[@nishantprakash5928]

@@akislolis Greek?

[@akislolis]

Yes my friend

[@nishantprakash5928]

@@akislolis ohk thanks

[@seaweed719]

Lang & Heyne Hektor as well as H. Moser Streamliner offer a lot more bang for the buck imo.

[@fVNzO]

Big eyesore with the strap there. This watch is only for bracelets imo.

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

Same with the Royal Oak and Overseas. That's what happens when watch makers insist on proprietary endlinks. They force you to stay within their ecosystem a la Apple.

[@fVNzO]

@@timeisahumanconstruct9251 apple doesn't really force you to do anything that's a pretty bad analogy imo. What apple does is provide products that are engineered to have convenient features enabled on their own product spheres. In what way is apple forcing you to buy anything? They don't as i said. They make their own products that aren't engineered to work with all devices because it would be wildly expensive (and weird tbh) to construct such an ecosystem outside your own portfolio. They don't force you to buy the magic keyboard for their ipads, you can get logitechs instead. They don't force you to use apple displays, they use standard display port protocols. They don't force you to use any wireless accessory, they all have bluetooth etc etc. Why are you trying to shoe horn apple in a watch discussion? Ayee?

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

@@fVNzOBro, I don't care about Apple. It was just a comparison. Relax.

[@fVNzO]

@@timeisahumanconstruct9251 I am, trying to give you a thinker. Do you have any thoughts?

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

@@fVNzO My only thought is that I have a preference for watches that allow easy access to third-party 20mm straps and bracelets. It gives us consumers maximum options.

[@albertodiaz4654]

Good watch swiss watch Best wold good video

[@BenTramer]

Police lyrics...

[@elvisahmed]

Yeah I don't like the way it looks

[@thisisabrokenlife]

holy fuck. unbrearable

[@jayebirdjb7143]

Your presentation is more impressive than the subject. The watch is beautiful but I’d have the Cartier. And not just because of the price.

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Thank you, JB! Best, Tim