A Lost Pokemon Lecture from Gen 1 Canon! | Gnoggin

[@FlOotch]

God Bill is brutal to professor Oak. He really hit him with the “touch grass.”

[@chidaluokoro9104]

Bill: lol Oak has no friends

[@limeyell0w945]

"touch grass types. get badges."

[@Kyumifun]

*It's super effective!*

[@luigiboi4244]

Someone should go teach him some manners. If nanyone needs my assistance, then I'm all in for rolling up with my bois Swampert and Lucario.

[@fishnewt1331]

“If you really want to truly understand Pokemon, you gotta actually go out and be among them. Not stuck in a lab like Professor Oak.”

[@limeyell0w945]

having an actual "lecture" is insanely cool to me. It makes it feel all the more real, like you're reading an actual textbook from the pokeworld. i love when games sort of bring their universe into our world like this.

[@BuddyC99]

That's what I thought! Imagine moving to (my usa bros) NY just to attend a Pokemon academy where from all ages can come and learn everything Pokemon. There would be Pokemon Evolutions 101, Where to start your Journey. I'd actually would want to go to school

[@limeyell0w945]

@@BuddyC99that would be pretty cool

[@JT5555]

*WE ALL LIVE IN A POKEMON WORLD*

[@limeyell0w945]

@@JT5555 wooo

[@DarknessGuard]

Fits perfectly considering how you start out in an seemingly educational facility in Scarlet/Violet, might even surprise us with something like "the two hot professors" give you a similar lesson (just about how important it is to preserve the past of Pokemon and all that should be looked and/or changed at for the future with Pokemon) at the start of Gen 9 and afterwards you meet the third professor in-between those two extremes or who thinks both is equally important (and tries to find compromise) of the version exclusive professors to receive your starter. I can also smell dlc that brings the other professor to the table after the end of the main game.

[@shadowmarauder6033]

Something interesting I found about the lecture: With Professor Oak, he sounds like he's actually talking with an in-universe group of students. Meanwhile, Bill seems to be talking directly to the players, breaking the fourth wall constantly.

[@hi-ougidemonfang]

In gold and silver bill just casually invents time travel. I think we shouldn’t underestimate bill.

[@akiradkcn]

@@hi-ougidemonfang the guy fused himself with a clefairy, I guess he accidentaly created Pokemon ReBurst lol

[@Lumberjack_king]

Bill is more powerful than we think

[@cameoshadowness7757]

@@akiradkcn omg.

[@jouheikisaragi6075]

@mlt0207 they are. The first four generations of Pokemon happen in regions modeled after Japanese prefectures. Gen 5 is the USA, Gen 6 is France, Gen 7 is Hawaii, Gen 8 is England and Gen 9 is shaping itself to be Spain.

[@GhostieToasterStrudel]

“Better than having a cat or dog” yeah that line alone explains why never made it localized didn’t hold up with their future vision of pokemon since they’re trying to work real animals out of the lore

[@yannismorris4772]

Also when Bill basically told you to put your Pokemon on Steroids.

[@Kyumifun]

@@yannismorris4772 that's the games to blame tbh

[@Druid-T]

@@yannismorris4772 Wait, what do you call EV training then?

[@smb-c3po]

It should have been.

[@jamesmending3146]

To be fair maybe animals used to exist but where wiped out by Pokémon but that begs the question why would animals evolve in the first place?

[@awesomeperson5150]

Hearing Bill say he had a team of Mewtwo and the Legendary Birds is literally hilarious

[@IcarusofSillyBoys]

and he still loses cause he made the classic NPC mistake of not having a team of six. My 5 metapods will PP stall and gengar will sweep with thunderbolt or something

[@jakethedragonymaster1235]

And a Gyarados as well. It's just...along for the party, I suppose

[@myvh773]

@@IcarusofSillyBoys I don’t think your Metapods will PP stall very long…

[@fishnewt1331]

Bill: “These typings are very important to learn through experience. Something the poor Professor wouldn’t know in his lab.” Oak: “Okay, Pikachu. I want you to chew these wires. Yes, these ones here.” *Bill’s electricity goes out*

[@animorph17]

It gets funnier when you realize Bill doesn't have a team, while Oak has a dragonite and earned a championship title, with agatha complaining that he used to be an insanely competent battler but then gave up that traveling lifestyle to go live in a lab. Like, imagine Bill doesn't know Oak's history and keeps making assumptions, and Oak just smiles at him not saying a word. This motha-fukka convinced Celeby to fly into his lab, stand in front of the camera, and then take him back in time for the hell of it. And celeby agreed.

[@CallMeNoa]

The Professor Nishinomori mentioned in the Primeape section is named after two of Pokemon's creators, Koji *Nishi*no and Ken Sugi*mori*. Nishimori's great-great grandson appeared in the anime as the person who wrote the Pokedex's entries. The dub named him Professor Westwood.

[@basssings]

Nishimori does literally mean "west woods" so the name checks out.

[@Dani-ix5bu]

The guy who looks identical to his ancestors but whose portrait is the only one that’s flattering? 😂

[@aisadal2521]

I always love learning about material that never got translated for the West; kinda makes it extra special learning more about something you thought you already knew. Reminds me of the community efforts to translate the original Japanese script for Dark Cloud 1 and 2, which provided much more context and information never seen or heard before

[@MasterZebulin]

Wait. There's MORE to the series that I don't know about!?

[@SilentSpringz]

I ‘learned’ nothing here. Only that u know its a game about monsters to be hoarded then what they try to do in the series. ( animals to be respected that ofcourse like to battle and become healthier and stronger or its just cock fighting)

[@acetar574]

Wow, really? I need to take a look at those DC 1 and DC 2 scripts. I LOVE Dark Cloud 2 (or Dark Chronicle where I live) and I really appreciate Dark Cloud 1's story, lore and foundations it gave to its successor. Also, there are many hilarious character interactions in DC 1.

[@VioletJazz]

4:34 so this means pokemon can shrink by themselves? Just like Professor Laventon from Legends Arceus said that Pokemon can also adjust their size as well, so that means Laventon's statement was already a canon fact since Gen 1, but was hidden by lack of localized official material

[@aisadal2521]

Huge shoutout to the art team capturing the original artstyle and shading/coloring of the Pokemon characters, especially Professor Oak! 👏👏👏

[@Dyundu]

Fun bit of info: The 1920s date for the invention of the Pokéball corresponds with the IRL Taishō Period of Japanese history, which was the inspiration for the setting and overall design aesthetic used in Legends: Arceus.

[@aquinprime]

Was looking for this info

[@DuskLegend]

Wow...pokemon taking advantage of its continuity for once

[@randomstranger9306]

Yup. That also means that Drayden is super old, since he says that pokeballs didn't exist yet when he was young.

[@priestesslucy]

@@randomstranger9306 'and after many revisions these capsules became the easy to use and high capture rate pokeballs.' People were probably still using the pokeball precursor back when Rowan was a boy

[@bryana.escaleralopez]

Yeah, Its pretty obvious that they went back to the original canon when they created Arceus

[@pappolobalaur3803]

Wall breaking aside, this translation set an interesting fact. Pokemons are divergent evolutions with extraordinary powers. So common animals existed before. Also while the Gotta catch em all slogan was created for the west, Bill does propose the idea of completing the Pokedex. So the concept wan´t that far removed.

[@jakoblent4694]

Also Darwin existed

[@Lumberjack_king]

Exactly it seems like it wasn't a separate world like it is today

[@whatTFisThis]

The whole animals exist in the pokemon world is an ides that seems to be no longer canon, but its still interesting

[@Lumberjack_king]

@@whatTFisThis exactly

[@TerminalMontage]

This is really cool!

[@jevan2424]

It really is! Btw I love your animations!

[@gabriellockwood2780]

I like that Bill specifically calls out you can only get 130~/150*. Johnstone did a series where he tried to calculate how many Pokémon you could get in 1 game, and then how many games & play throughs you'd need to get every Pokémon in each Generation. (RGBY was around 130~132.)

[@kingoftropes922]

Dude Bill was mad disrespectful to Oak originally, holy smokes. Maybe the reason he was so harsh on Blue after he lost his title as champion was because he saw to much of Bill in him.

[@animorph17]

"As yes, my grandson. What was his name again? Oh yes! Dickfuck!"

[@zebimicio5204]

funny thing is, bill is shipped with daisy (blue's older sister) in the pokemon special manga XD

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

Billue

[@Solaceon]

I love him. Like genuinely. Too much. And it's because of obscure stuff like this. He's the Pokémon nerd's kinda character, and I adore him with my whole soul.

[@GermanKinsmen]

Love how Professor Oak's portion is mostly straightforward lore, and then Bill comes out and just starts tearing down the 4th Wall like an extra dimensional being.

[@ReanimationLabs2000-et9ve]

Bill Cipher! Sorry, I had to

[@HedeccaTamer]

What I find really ironic is the fact that while Lockstin's English accent isn't entirely accurate, it is actually COMPLETELY accurate to Bill's anime accent, so it gets a pass

[@Evdafawth]

Hmm... was Bill ever retconned to be Galarian?

[@HedeccaTamer]

@@Evdafawth No but anime Bill really should be

[@sumeracarnatia6997]

Bill dissing Oak’s methods feels strangely amazing. Imagine that being his personality in the games.

[@Itachigan22]

This was a great lecture and a nice way of bringing a fictional world into our own. Would be nice if said encyclopedia was updated with the other discoveries that have been made and put into further detail like Megas' Z-Moves, regional variants, Dynamax and Gigantamax, and why certain Pokemon can Gigantamax.

[@bryana.escaleralopez]

The higher ups only care about profits sadly. They didn’t let this lore book get out of Japan because it would have been impossible to move on from all this established canon

[@blackmark2899]

I can definitely see why this wasn't localized. It just wouldn't work now. Originally Pokemon were confined to a certain region while normal animal existed elsewhere but now that has changed. Now Pokemon ARE the normal animals of the world. It's like how the Pokedex originally mentioned India or China and real animals like an elephant but currently those entries have been updated to take those out and replace them with something more in line with the current Pokemon world.

[@Marchingvenusaur]

I also have to imagine with the satanic panic happening around Pokémon in the west at that time, localizing a Pokémon book that asserts the theory of evolution as being true would have driven people NUTS.

[@Lumberjack_king]

Yeah

[@Lumberjack_king]

@@Marchingvenusaur yeah literally the only way it survived is that what's called "evolution" in pokemon isn't really evolution

[@nowheregiirl8115]

@@Lumberjack_king yeah it’s really just a Pokemon’s life cycle in most cases

[@Lumberjack_king]

@@nowheregiirl8115 yeah

[@Lunar365]

Oof, the running off after trading hit really hard. Still remember the kids living down the street I would play with. Gave my lv100 main team from my Crystal version to a girl because I wanted to start a new file. A day later I asked her to give them back and she refused and told me that a trade is a trade. After long back and forth and talking to friends and family I got them back a good while later. Sister of her told me she cloned them and gave me the cloned Pokémon back. I did kinda hated her after this.

[@valivali8104]

Did she bullshit or was it possible to clone pokemon? How? Out of curiosity, were you angry because people tend to give emotional value to "original" things, even if copy is 100 % identical?

[@thestupidfuncrisallstodios470]

Was she apart of team rocket

[@goldmemberpb]

@@valivali8104 Yeah, in gen 2, your game saves after you change boxes. So, the trick is to reset your game when it is in the process of saving. In Gold and Silver only, the timing is very generous but they made it very tough in crystal. More often than not, if you used this method, you could get a ????? pokemon in crystal and that could mess up your game. It is also how you can duplicate items like masterball. With this, you can also just clone the starters too but it does require you to not save at all until you can access the PC and then replay the game twice up until that point.

[@valivali8104]

@@goldmemberpb thanks 🙂

[@DuskLegend]

At first she sounded awful but at the end...kind of based tbh

[@strawdeath263]

Laventon even mentions Pokémon shrinking themselves down in Legends: Arceus. It's cool to know that's what they had in mind from the beginning, and that it served as an explanation for anyone who couldn't read this book.

[@mebreevee]

Bill in manga: *really respects professor oak* Bill in this book: “Professor oak is a quack!”

[@Evdafawth]

Bill in manga: Has a Southern USA accent. Bill in this video and the original anime: Classy British accent.

[@GustavoJua15]

Sounds like they kept the shrinking as a defense method if Legends Arceus is anything to go by.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Though while that explains how Poké Balls initially worked, it connects it better to the PC to make them turn into data. Though in the anime I think they just get teleported.

[@TheAquarius87]

Seeing Ken Sugimori's gen 1 art makes me feel 10 years old again...

[@Jollofmuncher2000]

It is so much like toriyamas work

[@denimvelvet4670]

So...every Pokemon learns minimize, but apparently only a few can use it on command. AND...the reason you can't catch Pokemon after fainting them in battle is that they shrink down to something so tiny you can barely see them and hide probably in flowers, under leaves, etc where they can't be found... It's the year 2022, and I wasn't expecting that explanation.

[@zebimicio5204]

And this was mentioned in PLA!

[@The_Endless_Now]

>tfw you take a walk with your Pokémon and have 52,147 dead microscopic Pokémon stuck to the underside of your boot when you come home

[@darkpuppetlordful]

@@The_Endless_Now actually, if they shrink small enough there's a good chance they survive in the grooves of your running shoes, unharmed.

[@testerwulf3357]

This makes the animation of them shrinking into the floor after battle make sense actually!

[@The_Endless_Now]

@@darkpuppetlordful >tfw you take 52,147 Pokémon home with you, unaware of them sticking to the underside of the aformentioned shoes >tfw they suddenly inflate themselves in the night >your room can't hold such a large number of living creatures >ohfuck.jpg >you wake to a loud sound and notice the walls breaking down under the pressure of the Pokémon filling your room >one of them approaches you and looks at you apathetically >It speaks up >"Hey you, you're finally awake!" Just another day in the Pokémon World

[@maskofthedragon]

12:43 I love how the book tried to make a point that Gyarados is so under researched that no one knew it was Magikarp's evolution... and they talk about it in the exact same book

[@inokidiedforoursins]

Just realised now that Bill mentioning he is from Kyoto might be the origin of him being Johttonian

[@galacticgila219]

I love that this sounds like a transcription of an actual lecture these two would give somewhere- likely at a high school or collage

[@stingerbrg]

So the thing about the pokemon turning small themselves that we didn't find out until Legends Arceus has been around since the start of the franchise!?

[@cleverman383]

Yup!

[@DuskLegend]

Still doesn’t fit with the history of the franchise since about gen 2 lol We also never hear or see it

[@Deadflower019]

I like the line "150 Pokemon have been discovered *so far"*

[@kennethkay7226]

Ho-oh was shown in the first episode so I guess they had gen 2 planned for a long time.

[@NitroIndigo]

@@kennethkay7226 Imagine how awkward it would be if Ho-oh was cut from the final Gold and Silver.

[@velvetbutterfly]

@@kennethkay7226 they did have some mon cut from gen1 they decided to save for a possible sequel. However Ho-Oh was not among them, it was made purely for the anime to entice viewers with the idea that even if they completed their PokeDex they still have mon they never knew existed.

[@kennethkay7226]

@@velvetbutterfly That's right I remember seeing those leaks and there was a long-haired lion instead of ho-oh. I would have loved if all those cool pokemon were never cut or at least came back.

[@koudoukurieux6842]

@@kennethkay7226 i think this mon you are mentionning is arcanine, who was supposed to be legendary at some point. You can see it is a part of the four panel representing artikuno, zapdos and moltres.

[@youngrootv]

I would love for Bill to somehow come back into a Pokémon game and story. He literally turned himself into a Pokémon and that doesn’t get talked about enough in the Pokémon world lol

[@cleverman383]

He turned into a Meowth and travelled with Jessie and James

[@shrinkray]

he's been referenced by the other storage system developers in most of the games, and he is talked about at the end of sun and moon, the incident where he turned himself into a pokemon is mentioned specifically (certain dialogue even implies that it might not have been an accident). lillie was going to go to kanto to meet him, so he kind of is part of the story at the end, but you never get to see that meeting yourself. he also appears in some pokemon manga, mainly pokemon adventures/pokemon special, where he shows up fairly often, at least in the kanto and johto parts. there's a lot of random information and trivia about him out there, more than you see for a lot of other pokemon characters (in the johto games there's an entire npc who calls you just to tell you fun facts about bill), so it really makes me wonder if someone somewhere at game freak really likes him or something. i would say there's a decent chance he'll continue to show up every now and then in various pieces of pokemon media

[@Solaceon]

God I love him, I love him so much. Please. Please. I need merch, I need content, I want to wake up next to him on his couch PLEASE GOD I'm so unhinged I'm simping PLEASE

[@ReanimationLabs2000-et9ve]

YES! I thought I was the only one. Bill really deserves more love and attention, he’s so under-appreciated. I love him!

[@ReanimationLabs2000-et9ve]

Me too, he’s hot af!

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

That Peanut Butter Gamer "IT'S PIKACHU" just hits you out of nowhere.

[@28kingofkings]

i've always believed that during the Gen 1 era, Pokemon lived side by side with livestock/farm animals and Humans. livestock animals are raised for food (for humans and Pokemon), clothing, and other necessities. Imagine Growlith being a sheepdog, or Taurus watching over cows, Rapidash leading a heard Horses. Pigeot, fearow, Gyarados preying on fish or the occasional stray chicken.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

Nevermind Growlith, Stoutland is literally a sheepdog lol

[@cleverman383]

@@darkpuppetlordful Stoutland didn't exist in Gen 1

[@darkpuppetlordful]

@@cleverman383 I know but what I'm saying is despite trying to avoid pokemon and normal animals living in tandem, Stoutland is the most "real animals exist" pokemon

[@testerwulf3357]

Yea, but they decided only Pokémon exist not real animals

[@Mellotl]

wow... this reveals a lot of things... like how Bill can and will absolutely ROAST prof. oak whenever he gets the chance XD

[@mattwo7]

13:14 "or you like the sound it makes" Kricketune's fanbase in a nutshell. Delelele Woooop!

[@Kaspar_Ementaller]

I like Bill being that snarky and sassy

[@FirithPanda]

Bill really out here just roasting everyone while he's sitting here liking all the Eevees.

[@PKMNCappy]

Sometimes when I can’t sleep I’ll put the DYKG video on and just listen to it until it pulls me to sleep just so I can hear it again. I’ll be adding this to that playlist!

[@Mnemoniforma9.00]

This lines up oddly well with the history of the Poke Ball as presented in Pokemon Legends Arceus

[@GustavoJua15]

Some aspects seem to have survived in modern Pokemon.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Well i can figure it's not hard for the devs to just look around and find any gen1 side material in some cabinet or desk in the office to work into lore of a game finally like this. It's definitely not coincidence, we got a Japanese data book thing with lore and Japanese devs in Japan with believable access to said data book, checks out to me.

[@rockfan243]

3:15 "fearsome beasts" * shows a puffed up jigglypuff It's even more fearsome view from above.🤣

[@AzazinNote]

The most interesting thing on that book to me is that they always intended nidorina and nidoqueen to be unable to breed.

[@MasterZebulin]

Wait. You're serious? You're not serious, are you?

[@AzazinNote]

@@MasterZebulin I'm serious. Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5SlZZ95o6acptU

[@MasterZebulin]

@@AzazinNote Words cannot express how much I HAAATE The Pokémon Company right now!

[@cleverman383]

@@MasterZebulin You hate that they have consistent lore?

[@MasterZebulin]

@@cleverman383 No, I hate the fact that they always intended for Nidoqueen to never breed.

[@temporalCaster]

I love how quickly and thoroughly they backed up on their explanation of pokeballs Literally one generation later, Kurt is making them from Apricorns in a "long honoured tradition", and now with legends Arceus we have them being used hundreds of years in the past

[@Ekadra]

Legends Arceus is only about 100ish years on the past.

[@joelc5773]

There’s also pkmn 4ever pokeballs

[@lpfan4491]

Well, the Apricorn-balls are mostly either siturational garbage or are just convinience items with little universal value. This text talks about how Balls were refined to become the balls sold in shops. And even tho the regular balls are argubly scams because they suck, Great and Ultra-balls are definitly better than the more traditional balls in a more general usecase, even if they might be worse in specific niches.

[@AbsolXGuardian]

Bill also makes reference to Kyoto, which gets an equivalent in Ecruteak the next generation. And even going by the rules just established by gen 1, countries and prefectures would keep their name, but towns have different names

[@temporalCaster]

@@lpfan4491 but the apricorn balls still have the same catch rate as the regular mass produced ones, even without their gimmicks. That makes them EVEN MORE useful than regular pokeballs, since even outside of the one specific scenario they're boosted they still work just as well. Great Balls and Ultra Balls are pretty good though, it's surprising lore-wise that they haven't moved on to having those as the default. Also the master balls make no sense either, in gen 1 they're a new invention by silph Co, but then every generation after they're either gifted to the player, still a prototype, or are just laying around in a random late game area

[@Letskickitup]

That original artstyle will always have a special place in my heart

[@BlueLoveYT]

1:10 I never noticed that the anime accidentally swapped the colors for the nidorans. I'm aware those are its shiny colors, but shinies weren't officially introduced til gen 2 which is why I believe it was unintentional

[@caroalcala3741]

It would be amazing if there was a whole pokedex booklet or history of all pokemon, that way, they can create a grand worldbuilding of the Pokemon world.

[@nimanao]

I think the issue with that is it makes it much harder to be creative with future games once you have things like that locked down. A great example is that in this lecture they talk about the creation of the first pokeballs in the 1900s, which would’ve made something like legends arceus impossible. I know they’ve ignored lore in the past but if they really tried to lock in a full history it would either stifle future plots or lead to more contradictions.

[@animorph17]

@@nimanao Simple solution though, claim the modern pokeball was invented in the 1900s and mass produced as a common item, but other things similar to the pokeball have been showing up all over the place as individuals stumbled onto the same concept in different ways. Sir Arron's capture staff, the Great Sage's giant stone capture ball he summoned through a wormhole, the apricorn pokeballs, ect. Legends Arceus would still happen, everyone is crafting their pokeballs by hand out of fukin wood.

[@bigchungus7870]

@@nimanao Well time travel is how

[@Mage_Nichlas_]

Lass: "Professor, how is it that Persian is able to learn attacks like Bubblebeam and Thunder?" Prof. Oak: "Boy I wish I knew."

[@RezeedTheDataspirit]

Never in a million years did I think I would see Vtuber Oak and Bill.

[@sagacious03]

I've heard of this, & know it well. However, there's apparently a sequel! A Pokedex book for Gold & Silver! Are you able to make a video about the Generation 2 Pokedex Book, Lockstin & Gnoggin?! Anyway, might comment more later!

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

FR? Sauce?

[@sagacious03]

​@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Okay, IDK why, but my comments aren't going through. Might be the Japanese text? Anyway, the book's translated name is something like "Pocket Monsters Gold Silver Pokemon Zukan (Official Guidebook"). IIRC, "Zukan" means encyclopedia, & is often used similarly to "Pokedex" in Pokemon.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@sagacious03 You should tweet about it to either DYKG or Dr Lava

[@sagacious03]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Unfortunately, I don't have a Twitter to use.

[@Icalasari]

Wait wait wait Legends _didn't_ pull the shrink down out of their ass!? It was canon since _Gen 1!?_

[@Mr-K-Money]

And apparently that fact is common knowledge in Japan, they just never localized that info. Plus if you do look carefully when Pokemon faint in the games they do actually shrink down.

[@MrMariosonicman]

@@Mr-K-Money at first I was bothered when gen 6 used that as a method to just remove the pokemon compared to the stadium games, but this now makes that choice seem alot better in my eyes.

[@Okeana_Aster]

What I love in this is that Oak and mostly Bill have a lot of personality in this. It would have been cool if we could have seen Bill being like that within the games.

[@andresmarrero8666]

It is always interesting to see booklets and information from pokemon's beginnings and compare them with the current state of the franchise to see how much pokemon as a world and concept has evolved. A lot of the information in the book needs to be amended or no longer applies. The history of the pokeball and the study of pokemon is a whole lot longer than what was originally envisioned, also the collector mindset is no longer seen as acceptable thanks largely to the anime. The book itself is quite literally out of date.

[@yannismorris4772]

And it really *feels* out of date too

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@yannismorris4772 unfortunately that doesn't stop people from forcing this old data into the current landscape. They give me headaches.

[@michaellarose4913]

i mean the collector mindset kinda really died out at gen three, when it was nigh impossible to get every pokemon available, requiring firered/leaf green, a copy of ruby, sapphire or emerald, a copy of pokemon Coliseum and a way to trade between them, Coliseum is the hard part. it's really just a headache

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@michaellarose4913 even by the second movie it was being heavily scrutinized. The notions and realizations that logically come from that mindset paints a terrible picture. It is no wonder they dropped it until someone had the terrible idea to have Goh be the embodiment of such a mindset.

[@michaellarose4913]

@@andresmarrero8666 true, it definitely isn't a great mindset, or one you want to promote especially in the context of the anime, where pokemon are shown to have sentience and intelligence comparable to humans.

[@LittleParade_]

I think it'd be so cool if they had some kind of online event you could tune into that was like a real lecture, but it was all based on Pokemon! The view is from a seat, you can see trainers sitting in front and beside you reading textbooks, writing notes, doodling pokemon, and the professor lectures on different topics depending on the day/hour! That would be a really fun way to run a unique pokemon streaming event!

[@Florceleste28]

Ok, but Oak's lecture just makes the whole capture process seem more cruel.

[@Draezeth]

Interesting how it confirms what the professor says in Legends: Arceus, though

[@velvetbutterfly]

It didn't seem cruel before?

[@Yakal001]

@@velvetbutterfly I think that's why they said _more_ cruel

[@TheGentlemanDuelist]

I think that’s why they changed the lore to the Pokémon seeking out humans.

[@EmeraldUsakaze]

>First-rate Trainer Bill >Sand Attack >Fly Bill, pls.

[@dandyman2182]

Bill is such a fun character here it seems alot of the other comments agree I wish we got to see this bill v oak dynamic more even if its in the next gen 1 reboot cx i love that bill comes off as being kinda snobby but he seems pretty friendly to anyone who isn't oak and also seems to have alot of passion and love for pokemon

[@minakohiashi8882]

Bill said Oak was speaking nonsense Oak- Cats and Dogs Bill- Version Exclusive, Drugs

[@connortheduelist2260]

I like to imagine the guy who said he likes beedrill (which to be fair, I think it's cool too) is arin.

[@pining_tree6788]

Wait, so the whole idea of Pokemon actual shrinking when pacified hard enough was from all the way back in gen 1?! I thought that was weird in the legends game but wow.

[@animorph17]

There are so many things in gen 1 that took decades to finally reach the games. Dynamaxing is a gen 1 thing, even has the sky changing color and clouds forming overhead. Regional variants are a gen 1 thing, not even talking about the crystal onyx, the first ones we see are variants for butterfree and parasect.

[@lpfan4491]

@@animorph17 Technically Dynamons conceptually already reached the games years before Gen 8, even if it was fictional in the game itself. Two of the Giant Monster-movies("Dai Kaiju" in japanese, like "Dai Max", the name of the mechanic) are about giant Tyranitars attacking.

[@MastarNinja]

@@lpfan4491 Wasn't there also an episode with an ancient giant Alakazam fighting an ancient giant Gengar somewhere between Indigo League and Advance? Plus, the giant Dragonite and Tentacruel from Indigo League.

[@MastarNinja]

@@animorph17 It's sad how the Crystal Onyx has never crossed over to the games. Same for the female pink Butterfree not being the official female variant.

[@lpfan4491]

@@MastarNinja Those are not the games tho.

[@U-Flame]

I like you specified "canon to Gen 1 Pokemon", as the series has pretty clearly diverged from a lot of this since. I feel like that DYKG video on it also implied it's soft canon, but it wasn't as clear about that as this one.

[@catdadmakesmusic]

This is honestly the explanation we’ve never had as to how something like a pidgey can exist in the same world as a generic non-pokemon bird and the same thing for fish! This is so sick dude. Thanks for sharing and for doing so in such a well put together way!

[@ntlvr]

Bills voice slowly started to turn into Lockstin's voice

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

Makes me wonder why In the Pokémon world you would need to pay bills when there are Pokémon that can run water, electricity and heat for free

[@andresmarrero8666]

Honestly it is just because they can. They have a monetary system just for the sake of having something to do. They already master complete energy to matter conversion which alone destroys the foundation of the concept of money.

[@vegetafan9922]

The PokéIRS will send their Geodude squad to shatter your kneecaps if you try to perform tax evasion. Oak can get away with it because he's a pubilc researcher.

[@AlteredNova04]

Probably because it would be cruel to force your pokemon to work constantly like that. Having your pet Pikachu power the house temporarily until you can call the power company and pay your bill is one thing, forcing your pikachu to power the house 24/7 would be abusive. Also not everyone wants to own fire, electric and water types or deal with the inconvenience of building and maintaining their own pokemon generator setups.

[@cleverman383]

Sword and Shield has a story about an energy crisis

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@cleverman383 which was pure idiocy on Rose's part. Trying to solve an issue that simply cannot exist in that world.

[@IgnatiusBlaze4]

1:25... Professor Oak, tax evader... I could see it.

[@frankaxe6700]

I liked this it was informing and calming You should do more of these

[@shawnwilburn5382]

Whoa wait a sec so the whole thing in Legends Arceus about pokemon being able to shrink *wasn't* a retcon???

[@chidaluokoro9104]

No

[@andresmarrero8666]

Yes it was or rather it is an outdated idea that never took hold. That's why the whole concept is ludicrous, it doesn't apply with how the franchise evolved and doesn't have anything to stand on unlike the notion that almost every pokemon is potentially toxic.

[@robertlupa8273]

But what if... it's an in-universe scientific mistake? It's not like our science is free of "retcons"...

[@CallMeNoa]

@@andresmarrero8666 It's clearly not outdated because a game that just came out this year still mentioned it.

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@CallMeNoa and it comes from a living buffoon with no legs to stand on. It is very outdated by over two decades.

[@XxSherlockianHeroxX]

This is how I always pictured what it would be like to go to a Pokémon school in the games.

[@dansuryuu8254]

As a biologist who is continually fascinated by taxonomy and love Pokémon this is AMAZING!

[@animorph17]

I desperately want to see actual taxonomy applied to pokemon, because the nonsense behind egg groups is hilarious. A species is classified by who it can reproduce with, but for pokemon any that share an egg group are viable reproductive partners. So does that mean there's only like 9 or so species? Can't be, because most pokemon are in two simultanious egg groups. So is each possible combination of egg groups a unique species? The answer to that can't go more than a hard maybe, because that one 'species' is then capable of reproducing with at least three separate 'species' based on composite egg groups! Made even worse by the fact that evolutionary stages (IE: metamorphic stages) each have an effect on reproductive compatability. A bulbasaur and an ivysaur don't treat each other like they're the same pokemon, the chances of reproduction act as if they're completely separate creatures who just share an egg group.

[@jolly_39]

The breeding mechanic is mostly video game/ programming logic. Telling the game which Pokémon are in the same evolution line while breeding them means a lot of extra work for the programmers. Especially with stuff like Tauros and Miltank who are supposed to be the same species yet are both separate single stage lines. Then there's Ditto who can mate with almost every single Pokémon and somehow manages to turn into the opposite sex when copying another Pokémon in the daycare and only there. Pokémon like Klikk or Magnemite can hatch from eggs and those are sentient pieces of metal.

[@cleverman383]

@@animorph17 they're pocket *monsters* they don't need to work the same way as animals, because they're monsters

[@DaWombatGaming]

how cool that you worked with DYKG and got to give us this extra (more interesting imo) bit of the translation!!

[@NavyBlueDude]

I'd sign up for a course in Pokémonology! Heck, I'd watch an entire series about this.⭐⭐⭐✨

[@SerDerpish]

(Pssst) *you’re watching a pokemonology youtube channel right now* 🤫

[@Kyumifun]

That's why we have Lockstin

[@lowzibojine]

Same!!! I really want more content like this from The Pokémon Company themselves, I'd pay good money for it!! (Insert: the take my money meme)

[@Gigamex2]

Go watch the Did you know gaming video mentioned in this one. It's a crash course in gen 1 Pokemon!

[@NavyBlueDude]

@@Gigamex2 Huh, thanks!

[@Enteringdullsville]

I love Bill’s smug aura.

[@DragonSword227]

This is so cool. I love the idea of different capsules being used to store Pokémon besides Pokeballs. Very interesting. XD

[@cleverman383]

Legends: Arceus told us about this too

[@DragonSword227]

@@cleverman383 Exactly. :)

[@arianabelinskyuwu]

Having read the Adventure mangas, it’s odd to hear Bill with a British accent, I’m so used to a Southern one. Great voiceover, though, and thank you for giving us access to this lost lore!

[@alieditz7614]

The anime used British too, the reason he was given an accent in both his because he has a different Japanese dialect in the sub/Japanese version and to portray it to the English speaking Fandom, he was given accents the other characters don't have. I don't know if I wrote this in a way that makes sense

[@davidmcc9141]

Using the anime version of Bill is hella funny. Wonderful work.

[@arbitj9479]

Bill: 1 master ball- Me: *laughs in missingno*

[@risingstarnormis]

Love how doping is mentioned so casually

[@RegoGD]

“Fire melt ice, you won’t learn that in a lab!“ -Bill

[@Honovi_]

Bill out here unleashing some unnecessary back handed slander on Oak during the lecture made my day 😂 Oak’s probably waiting for everyone to leave before he tells Bill to step outside with him 🪦

[@WolfHack]

Bill is a SAVAGE. Also nice voice impressions!!!

[@dafl1sh]

this book never being localized explains why no one knew that pokemon can shrink to fit in the capsules and were surprised when legends arceus said it.

[@logans.7932]

“They can be FORCED into a small capsule!” Lots of us in the comments have been theorizing why they never localized this, I think this is why lol Edit: Oh so Bill just HAS A MEWTWO?

[@cleverman383]

How about the fact that training isn't enough, if you really want a strong pokemon, you're going to need to use doping!

[@kenu995]

Bill is a legendary spammer confirmed.

[@LazyQahnaarin]

This is giving me Jurassic Park vibes.

[@CreativeSteve69]

I really enjoyed this idea of a concept for video Lockstin. please do more lecture type videos. it was fun to watch.

[@shadowtyrant1272]

God, Bill gave some great advice. If the opponent is frozen don't use a fire move as they'll never unfreeze. Now if only he explained that Fire Spin and Wrap keep the opponent from moving, wonder how many friendships that might have ended

[@Rafael_Oiticica]

Wow, thank you for the enormous throwback to Gen1 canon material! And the presentation was simply amazing. The acting, the editing, the voices... Everything is good and a very unique video on KZbin! :)

[@IronheadEli723]

Wait, so he trusted ash with his own pikachu? That’s actually pretty cool on oak’s part.

[@testerwulf3357]

Oak talks of one more tame than Ash’s..it seems he owns his own Pikachu, Ash got a different one

[@TheSwordsman100]

Oak: And by studying the evolution of Pokemon we can discover the origin of life and humanity! (Meanwhile within the Hall of Origin Arceus watches amused.)

[@chunkysaurus785]

Bill: Maybe someone like professor oak doesn’t have any friends Me: Oooooooof

[@xMoac]

Anyone notice how cruel it seems … the actual Pokémon being drugged , forced into balls and used for gladiator games. But then again… it’s a pokéworld.

[@chidaluokoro9104]

ya...

[@andresmarrero8666]

Yet it is not. You can thank the anime for changing the context and nature of the relationship between pokemon and humans.

[@Druid-T]

@@andresmarrero8666 The anime also effectively said that captured pokemon have no free will, so let's not give it all the praise for how the world of pokemon has changed

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@Druid-T the anime never stated that, in fact they constantly show the opposite. Pokemon have free will and if you don't treat them well they will at best leave you and at worst attack you.

[@GustavoJua15]

Plasma (those who like N who are in it for the mons) would make more sense in that light.

[@ZeranZeran]

This is the last thing I expected to be seeing 10+ years after I played Pokemon. What a heartfelt team that worked on the original pokemon. I really wish they put this same love and passion into their worlds.

[@coolguy010]

Really loved the presentation of this video! Very fun! 🙌

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

Oh, dang, you got an exclusive part of this that DYKG didn't cover? That's pretty cool.

[@RealOriginalJ]

Bill really lectured a class saying “Screw studying and drug up your Pokémon.”

[@cleverman383]

It's true though

[@NitroIndigo]

Anyone played Monster Sanctuary? Because I've been wondering for a while if that game's lore was inspired by early Pokémon. In it , it's repeatedly mention that normal animals exist in this world, and monsters have evolved independently from mundane organisms multiple times, or sometimes vice-versa. (eg: Just like Aerodactyl in the PokéDex book, Kongamato is said to be the ancestor of both bird monsters and normal birds.)

[@Moonbeam143]

Bill has a beeper. How very 90's.

[@elianewinter2638]

Grace did an amazing job on the Oak and Bill art!

[@BaronLickilicky]

The voice acting was excellent - they could easily voice the anime. I like how Austin kept Bill's British accent from the original anime. This video something special.

[@joeschof_95]

So in PLA when the professor says “Pokémon have the ability to shrink down and fit into poke balls” lots of people thought that was the old timey professor not understanding Pokémon/ pokeballs cos a lot of us thought the pokeballs turned them into data or light or just a red beam and captured them but it turns out it’s always been the Pokémon choosing to shrink down, as I typed this I realised “doesn’t that make a plot hole when the Pokémon breaks out though?” Like why shrink down in the first place? * I have since watched the rest of the video and realised this is very much a meta video and not actually a canon, actually in the book translation 😂

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

If you go by art from the manga they shrink down there too. That's why Poison affects them outside of battle.

[@sanspapyrus2932]

08:20 100% catchwate Idk why but that cracked me up lmao

[@hollum1648]

11:38 “It’s clefairy!”