A New Budget Bike + 2024’s Secret Tour de France Tech 👀 Tech Of The Month Ep 39

[@minimodelling]

I put exactly the same gearing as that Van Rysel on my road bike recently, Rival shifters/derailleur, apex 11-44 cassette and a Frankenstein 46t front chainring setup. Absolutely perfect - about the same as an 11-32 range, only give up a 50-11 equivalent! Cool to see it making its way onto “mainstream”. Cracking deal it looks like

[@Simte]

Decathlon offerings are absolutely worth the money.

[@kidShibuya]

Their entry into the highend cycling market has been textbook.

[@adderhoney]

I have had a few Tribans and I still have a lovely Van Rysel AF with Ultegra. They are great bikes and I am glad that they are getting some recognition now.

[@releasethekraken5299]

I asked Decathlon support team, the Van Rysel FCR helmet with MIPS will be available in July, at least in France. The RCR helmet is more ventilated and is already available with or without MIPS.

[@ThePeter123a]

The body temperature sensor should be integrated into the chest strap of the heart rate sensor.

[@diehardbikes]

My Bryton heart rate monitor already does this to an extent. Not sure how accurate it is though, which is why I say to an extent.

[@Andy_ATB]

What about Giro tech, seeing as it's currently taking place..........

[@JM...]

I just bought a rcx, not the rcxII, budget bike, more clearance and cheaper, not electronic groupset but that is not a problem

[@darrinschwarz7446]

Are you sure the bikes shown in comparison have semi integration?

[@garryknox2953]

If you thought the clip on the Core device looked fragile and would easily break you would be right. It’s too bad they don’t replace broken units.

[@diehardbikes]

That's incredible. Do they carry any replacement parts at all?

[@BikeLife154]

The VanRysel looks decent, but a 1x with what looks like a 10-44t cassette is not a road groupset. I have that setup on my Revolt and it is awful for road. So, immediately you'd need to change the groupset. A 105 2x group would've been a far better choice.

[@minimodelling]

11-44 Apex cassette I think, which helps a bit - 400% range so same as a 2x 11-30. 12s instead of 13-14 non overlapping gears, only misses a 14t cog. (same as 10-36 though!). I’ve been running the same ratios coming from 105 2x and it’s been dreamy. Spent a looooot of time on gear-calculator and it’s more similar than a lot of people assume. I prefer having the one slightly bigger jump around 40-45kph and missing the 50-11 equivalent, for me that’s better than being in between both front chainrings constantly. Definitely ageee on the 10-44, little too much range for 12s road. Understandable though if it wasn’t right for you 😁

[@diehardbikes]

I don't agree. As a rider who is very familiar with his cross bikes, one of which rides a 44t front chainring and a 10-36t cassette, I almost feel that a 44t cassette would be too big! I understand not all riders are me. And I understand that grinding isn't everyone's favorite thing. But that is actually plenty of gear range. And most people won't actually need more than that.

[@minimodelling]

@@diehardbikes That’s fair! I was very very close to going with a 42 front and 10-36 also, about the same easy gear as my old 34-30 on 2x. I figured I’ve never been going uphill and said to myself “I wish I had fewer easy gears” and the spacing is similar on both otherwise haha. That and in my specific case Certini had the apex cassette discounted to £70 or so and I didn’t need to buy a new £60 freehub 😁

[@diehardbikes]

@@minimodelling hey, not needing to buy a new freehub is a HUGE plus

[@applewizard32]

In the UK this bike starts at £1500 with Shimano Tiagra, I believe it has a double chainring albeit the large ring being 48t if I remember correctly, the cassette is a 11-34 I think.

[@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv]

Yeah. That looks like a good bike.

[@scoresandflames]

Mudguards? Just go for the SKS Raceblade Pro XL, for around 35 EUR they're unbeatable.

[@SteveCyclistNo1]

Left feeling that this was an intro to several products with scant detail. I know we live in an attention span deficit world, but a more thorough evaluation on each would have been better IMHO

[@bikeradar]

Thanks for the feedback, we will have full reviews coming in the future!

[@RyonBeachner]

Secret TDF tech? I’ve had one of these for two years now, I assure it is not a secret.

[@mikkelhenriksen]

42*11-42T seems a little small for road even for entrylevel. 2buy would be more functional

[@Secna]

It is 46T x 11-44T

[@diehardbikes]

A 1x is actually easier for most new riders to understand. I used to work for Trek, and any time I would show riders the drop bar section of road bikes, (which was next to out gravel bikes, many of which had a 1x) many people would say "hey, I like that, that looks simpler and easier to understand." This was the intention when Sram introduced it. Looks like it's taken hold.

[@hisdadjames4876]

Does a dimpled bar tape trip the air and reduce your CdA? I guess so. 🤔

[@marccarter1350]

EPO?

[@jeremynorth]

That temperature sensor is probably the most pointless thing ever. These companies just know that cyclists are suckers for this BS and will pay through the nose for it.

[@kobbebauws]

£2000 and you’re getting a 1by? I would understand that in their £900 range but compared to the alternatives this is total shit.

[@CO_Luke]

Mudgua-whats? What are you even talkin' about? That's free nutrition while you're riding!

[@boots8683]

Are they made in europe ?

[@LegSpinna]

I would say yes. You never know though. Either presenter could've been 'made' outside of Europe. For example whilst on holiday.

[@maxgusatz5644]

£2000 is now ‘entry level’?? Marvellous. 😂

[@harrylook7810]

"in my day, everything cost a nickel!" yeah - things are more expensive today than they used to be. this common comment on cycling vids needs to die.

[@petef15]

​@@harrylook7810 In the year 2000, an average entry-lever racing bike would be from £300 to £600. Average monthly earnings after tax were £1300-1500 per month. In 2023 average earnings after tax etc would have been around £2,250. If we express this as a ratio of Monthly Earnings to Bike Cost, we get: Year 2000 - 0.34 Year 2023 - 0.89 The relative cost of bikes has more than doubled.

[@sergioalejandrovazquezrodr3083]

This is not completely entry level, it’s built using a carbon frame and a wireless groupset. You could get cheaper options for sure

[@petef15]

@@harrylook7810 Ratio of Bike Cost to Income 2000: Taking an average race bike price of £650. Ratio: £650 / £20,000 = 0.0325 (or 3.25% of the average annual income). 2023: Taking the bike price of £2000. Ratio: £2000 / £31,000 = 0.0645 (or 6.45% of the average annual income).

[@diehardbikes]

For a carbon bike, with disc brakes, and electronic wireless shifting? Yes. That is absolutely the cheapest entry level bike you could possibly find.

[@well5423]

Please review the 3D bar tape - most of us viewers are likely yo buy a pair of tape rather than a new bike.

[@MAGAmaniac1000]

No helmet should cost more than $100. If you’re wearing a $300 helmet you are just paying for branding.

[@cianmurgatroyd2074]

If someone wants to pay 300quid for a helmet,power to them. They are paying for r+d on tech that will end up on base level helmets in 3 years time.

[@Thomas-fy9yc]

Cheap out on shirts, maybe, mid level bibs , sure. Lots of good saddles for a reasonable amount. Things to never cheap out on, tires, shoes, and helmets. Especially if you’re dropping $7000 on a new bike.

[@LegSpinna]

@@Thomas-fy9yc If you're paying 7k for a new bike you're not skin flinting on clothing.

[@diehardbikes]

​@CheeseyWotsit they may not be paying Rapha prices either. I own several bikes from 5k to 13k. 4 or 5 of them. And no, I absolutely skimp on clothing anywhere I can. But my shoes? Bont cycling, 400 for those. My helmet? Trek Velocis, very light, very comfortable to the point I forget it's even on, and very airy, nice for the hot weather in the summer. In the rain I use a POC Tempus. I wear Oakleys, not for the brand, but because it's a night and day difference over brands like Scattante. The lense is incredible. I've tried many brands, Koo, POC, 100%, Scattante, but it's the quality of the lenses from Oakley that keep me coming back. I also went big on my saddle, as that's a contact point with my bike that matters when you spend a certain amount of time in the saddle. I spend 400+ miles per week in the saddle. If you only do 2 or 3 rides per week in the summer, spend no more than 100 on a saddle. But if you put in over 10 hours per week on the bike, spend more. Get a Specialized Power or a Bontrager Aeolus Elite or even Pro, or the RSL like I have. Or the Fizik Argo R1 like I have on another bike. Understand that people have different needs than you. But if you are the guy who rides Superteam wheels, I wouldn't listen to a single thing you say, cause sooner rather than later, those wheels will have you dead on the ground.

[@diehardbikes]

Helmets are the cheapest life insurance you can buy. Your attitude towards them is likely to get you killed.

[@belizon]

Please stop with the "kind of" and 'kind of like". 😮

[@cabletieperformance]

The tech is EPO

[@petef15]

Curtains and BeardLineWithARuler over here tryna tell me that £90 for a helmet is cheap.

[@bikeradar]

Play nicely, Pete

[@petef15]

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[@diehardbikes]

It is cheap, for a helmet that will do any good at keeping you safe. If you aren't looking at a helmet with MIPS, you are looking in the wrong places.