A PROTESTANT Chooses Between Orthodoxy And Catholicism (Is He Right?)

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@cjr4497
@cjr4497 6 ай бұрын
Ruslan isn't so bad. He doesn't bash and is pretty fair towards Catholics and Orthodox. I watch his stuff sometimes. He was raised in an Orthodox church before becoming a prot. It doesn't surprise me he would choose Orthodox. He won't look into anything. He seems like one of those prots who likes being his own church.
@andys3035
@andys3035 5 ай бұрын
He was Armenian Orthodox, not Eastern Orthodox.
@RuslanKD
@RuslanKD 5 ай бұрын
thanks, Oriental orthodox (the stream of the Armenian church)@@andys3035
@Gregori1964
@Gregori1964 3 ай бұрын
Well stated!
@ArmyK9
@ArmyK9 3 ай бұрын
Why would Ruslan want to be Protestant? Doesn't the Armenian Orthodox hold a much fuller "fullness of faith" than what Protestantism has to offer? It's like getting a downgrade. 🥲
@jacobduran2385
@jacobduran2385 6 ай бұрын
I am pretty grateful for Ruslan only becasue he is the reason my family and I get to join the Catholic church this Easter. He had Trent Horn on his podcast a year or two ago, which caused me to study what Catholics actually believe. Now when I watch his criticisim of Catholicism it is pretty clear he does not understand what he is talking about.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
Hallelujah God bless you!
@domanicvaldez
@domanicvaldez 6 ай бұрын
Amen! God Bless. I am in that journey. I was raised very anti Catholic. My fiancee is Catholic and she introduced me to the Church. I was against it at first then I studied. Then I attended mass. I fell in love and felt my spiritual life grow.
@3miL_2012
@3miL_2012 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. I stopped watching him, Brandon Snipe, Joe Kirby, Ray Comfort and Isaac David for the exact same reason
@kasiaseubert
@kasiaseubert 5 ай бұрын
Praise be to God 🙌
@John777-3
@John777-3 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't you give Orthodoxy the same respect? I did this same thing and almost went RC before actually bein exposed to what they believe in contrast with how the Church operated over 1,000 years pre-schism and in no universe is there any form of universal jurisdiction to be found.
@MajorasTime
@MajorasTime 6 ай бұрын
I remember when I almost converted to Orthodoxy because everyone around me hated Catholicism and I did not want to bear the Crosses of the Catholic Church. But I couldn't fight against my conscience bearing witness against me. I always knew deep down the Catholic Church has the fullness of truth. Some of the biggest problems with Eastern Orthodoxy for me is their lack of engagement against the politics issues in the world like abortion and their inability to universally identify and settle the canon of scripture apart from communion with Rome.
@andys3035
@andys3035 6 ай бұрын
Greek Orthodox bishops just anathmatized political leaders for passing LGTV into law in Greece. We are active politically but you're not hearing about it.
@ivanipatov6559
@ivanipatov6559 6 ай бұрын
Why d you think so? We have canon of OT. Septuaginta. and also the council of 1672 confirmed the canon. The Council of the Church is the highest authority.
@ivanipatov6559
@ivanipatov6559 6 ай бұрын
In general, it’s infantilism if a forty-year-old child calls his dad with any questions
@Memento_Mori_3
@Memento_Mori_3 5 ай бұрын
The hope is that we all become one again. It is sad that Catholics triggered the first division in the Church with Papal infallibility instead of Jesus infallibility.
@ivanipatov6559
@ivanipatov6559 5 ай бұрын
@@Memento_Mori_3 The Body of Christ cannot be divided, there were five patriarchates, after the schism there are four left. If you cut off one finger on your hand, even if it’s a big one, then it’s both pain and loss. But blood will continue to flow into the remaining four fingers.
@CPATuttle
@CPATuttle 5 ай бұрын
He was raised Armenian Oriental Orthodox. He’s actually a pretty good open Protestant. He allows Trent Horn on his channel. And has given good plugs on the Catholic Church. He just needs someone like you to explain the faith
@levrai944
@levrai944 5 ай бұрын
He needs to get more Catholics on his platform to have consistent conversations
@RuslanKD
@RuslanKD 5 ай бұрын
thanks for this. to summarize, I'm not the catholic's enemy lol. but allowing room for folks to disagree because of the specific doctrines I laid should be allowed without denying the points made. Papal infallibility was settled at Vatican II (not the early church) and Peter had a wife.. somewhere the catholics decided priests and popes couldn't have wives. I'd Love for a catholic to engage in better responses to these objections vs denying them which is what these video basically did.
@CPATuttle
@CPATuttle 5 ай бұрын
@@RuslanKD So celibacy is a discipline. Not a doctrine. There’s a difference between a discipline and a doctrine. In the Latin rite, Anglican priest converts can actually be married. And in most Eastern rites of the Catholic Church priests can too be married. It’s important to know a discipline can be changed by a Pope. A doctrine cannot be changed. Saint Paul in 1 Corinthians 7 says why he himself was not married. And celibate. Because of the priority of wife and family over the church. Papal infallibility goes back to the discussion of the role Jesus gave to Peter originally. Keep up the good work
@robertotapia8086
@robertotapia8086 5 ай бұрын
​@RuslanKD love you channel GOD Bless your family and you. I'm Catholic and I just ask if you can please have someone like @Michael Lofton @Voiceofreason or @Trent Horn on again please. Thanks Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
@John777-3
@John777-3 5 ай бұрын
@CPATuttle Byzcath clergy are allowed marriage and their traditions because if they weren't then they'd just all return to Orthodoxy with the exception of those who were already "submitting to Rome" so thats not really a point I'd make in terms of consistency especially given that the celibacy of clergy in the West didn't begin until after Rome split from the rest of the Pentarchy
@Mkvine
@Mkvine 6 ай бұрын
Sometimes a Protestants hatred or bias against Catholicism will get in the way. It’s not surprising what he said.
@WaterMelon-Cat
@WaterMelon-Cat 6 ай бұрын
But why do catholic always seem to think there is no such thing as valid criticism against the church lol ?
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
@@WaterMelon-CatThere is no valid criticism when it comes to doctrines. Since Catholicism has the fullness of truth.
@Mkvine
@Mkvine 5 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic Yes, that’s why bias distorts the truth
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
@@Mkvine Amen!
@silveriorebelo2920
@silveriorebelo2920 18 күн бұрын
it's not surprising that protestants are constantly distorting and slandering the catholic faith??
@peterhenryzepeda3484
@peterhenryzepeda3484 6 ай бұрын
Russian complains about straw manning, while he straw mans Catholicism. Right off the bat he straw mans Catholicism by making a discipline like priestly celibacy into a doctrine. Not to mention that Orthodox monks and bishops practice priestly celibacy also.
@peterhenryzepeda3484
@peterhenryzepeda3484 6 ай бұрын
* Ruslan
@ForceRecon112
@ForceRecon112 Ай бұрын
True, but priests can be married prior to becoming a priest
@chesscoo
@chesscoo 5 ай бұрын
You’re awesome brother thank you for doing stuff like this keep it up
@idrcookiez620
@idrcookiez620 6 ай бұрын
Dude I’ve been waiting for you to do a video addressing Ruslan KD honestly I think he knows Catholicism is the truth but some people find it very hard to accept “truth” because in their opinion they “know what’s true”.Even tho they are at the foot of it. I’m glad you’re very knowledgeable and smart I hope to see you debate Apologia studios, more specifically, Jeff Durbin and James White. They seem to avoid real conversation and debate with Catholics. And only go out to the streets preaching to people who don’t really know their own faith. They need to have an encounter with you.
@shanahendricks9831
@shanahendricks9831 5 ай бұрын
Total underrated comment. This is so true, you can't take a head journey to Catholicism, it requires head and heart and unfortunately, his ego is not allowing him to open his heart
@tony1685
@tony1685 5 ай бұрын
catholicism isn't Christianity - the Bible is crystal clear about this, friend.
@shanahendricks9831
@shanahendricks9831 5 ай бұрын
@@tony1685 ai Tony, thank you for all your help. You're so helpful, the role you play in God's kingdom is amazing, shouldn't we all just be like you ♥
@tony1685
@tony1685 5 ай бұрын
@@shanahendricks9831 well i did start wrong as well -- i was catholic 35 yrs before studying and believing the Word of God. so no thanks to me, it's all to Him! will keep praying that you too can overcome your Bible illiteracy and come to Truth finally.
@shanahendricks9831
@shanahendricks9831 5 ай бұрын
@@tony1685 good for you Tony, may God bless us both
@RuslanKD
@RuslanKD 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the response. Few things to clarify. I’m not looking at picking between Catholicism vs orthodoxy. This was a hypothetical. I think you guys are both wrong 😂 Obviously orthodoxy was apart of the Catholic Church until the first schism. My issues remain. 1. Peter (your first pope) someone most of us would acknowledge was the first among equals had a wife. Why can’t priests and popes have wives now? Because the Roman Catholic Church said so? Why do the orthodox priest have wives? Why was this not official doctrine until almost 1000 years after the life of Peter? 2. Papal Infallibility was NOT defined until Vatican I? So what was defined at Vatican 1? Not that “infallible when he spoke 'ex Cathedra'” are you disagreeing with your own councils? 3. I don’t believe In purgatory. I don’t ascribe to all the creeds. There was drift at the 2nd Council of Nicaea. Regarding contradictions to earlier statements around idolatry and icons. Hopefully this clarifies somethings. A great source on this is Gavin from truth unites.
@AlexanderBTorres
@AlexanderBTorres 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to see you both talk this one out. Obviously I agree with the Catholic side of it since I’m Catholic but it’s good to hear different perspectives and opinions for believing what we believe.
@RuslanKD
@RuslanKD 5 ай бұрын
@@AlexanderBTorres I don't know what we would talk about that has been explored exhaustively by Gavin (truth unites) multiple conversations with Trent horn. I've also had Trent Horn on my channel. I'd encourage you to look at those conversations if you really want to see a steel man of both perspective.
@tony1685
@tony1685 5 ай бұрын
1 - interestingly, if we look at the synoptic gospels, they all show zero support for Peter being the 'rock', but rather that it's Jesus Himself - this is why it's Peter's *Confession* - see Mark 8:27-30 and Luke 9:18-20. in Matt 18:1 (2 chapters later) they also show this isn't so -- or didn't they get the message about Peter? also -- according to 1 Peter 5:1 - he was an elder. no more, no less. in none of the NT - do we see Peter being set aside as a 'pope' nor the leader of Christianity. especially since 'popes'/catholicism mandates sin.
@tony1685
@tony1685 5 ай бұрын
@@RuslanKD if ya like, i can show you clear and undeniable evidence that catholicism isn't even Christianity -- according to Scripture.
@Somtejesstudios
@Somtejesstudios 2 ай бұрын
​@@tony1685 Catholic is the frist church
@Rome_77
@Rome_77 6 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, dudes name is Ruslan and he was baptized Orthodox. It’d be great if he searched deeply a discovered the truth of Catholicism, but he has other motivations that would move him to sympathize more with EO over Rome.
@Memento_Mori_3
@Memento_Mori_3 5 ай бұрын
The hope is that we all become one again. It is sad that Catholics triggered the first division in the Church with Papal infallibility instead of Jesus infallibility.
@andys3035
@andys3035 5 ай бұрын
He was Armenian Orthodox not Eastern Orthodox
@Rome_77
@Rome_77 5 ай бұрын
@@andys3035 I’m aware. I didn’t specify “which Orthodox” because I don’t think that changes the point I made. As an Armenian Orthodox I believe he would still lean more towards Eastern Orthodoxy over the Catholic Church.
@semiethical
@semiethical 5 ай бұрын
I like Ruslan. He was Orthodox before becoming a Protestant. He's a refugee from Armenian, I believe. Part of me wants to believe he might just have a bias because of his Orthodox upbringing. I remember when i was a Protestant, I had grown up Catholic and it always stung juuuusst a little bit when people would talk shit about Catholics. Now, I've reverted back to Catholicism, mostly because of channels like his where they keep talking about "The Church" and I'm like... which one?
@exposingtruth600
@exposingtruth600 6 ай бұрын
I came across this question myself when deciding between orthodoxy and Catholicism as a former Protestant, I chose Catholicism although I was inclined to believe the Eastern Orthodox first.
@nikoseufert3187
@nikoseufert3187 5 ай бұрын
The thing is the Word catholic is greek just because their name is catholic that doesnt mean their are catholic
@TruLuan
@TruLuan 5 ай бұрын
​@@nikoseufert3187But they actually are. They're the only religion that has fulfilled the great commission via Christ's command and established a church in every nation, land and tongue. Orthodox and Protestants certainly cannot make this claim.
@nikoseufert3187
@nikoseufert3187 5 ай бұрын
@@TruLuan yea because you conquered nations and even done crusades
@AveChristusRex789
@AveChristusRex789 5 ай бұрын
@@nikoseufert3187we did the crusades, because the crusades were a response to 7 centuries of Islamic oppression which was teetering on Christian Europe’s borders.
@nikoseufert3187
@nikoseufert3187 5 ай бұрын
@@AveChristusRex789 yea and then you fight us before constanipel was Taken
@BasiliscBaz
@BasiliscBaz 6 ай бұрын
✝️☦️ must become friends again
@fusionthesinner
@fusionthesinner 5 ай бұрын
Under ☦️ then maybe.
@XxRockSoulxX
@XxRockSoulxX 5 ай бұрын
@@fusionthesinner Sounds like pride Brother. I am Orthodox, Born Romanian. Church will not be under Catholicism or Orthodoxy. It will be under Lord Jesus Christ. If you are not prideful, and I am misinterpreting, I apologize. But please be careful. Bring the bride of Christ together. Stop tearing her apart.
@miuitest5272
@miuitest5272 5 ай бұрын
​​​@@XxRockSoulxX no, there must be the truly infailable teaching of Church till the very end of times. So orthodox believe that they have such teaching, so they will never accept teaching of catholicism until they repent in the herecy of papacy and filiokve and join the ecumenical council. Where every other teaching of catholicism must be examined.
@Kaatiiiii
@Kaatiiiii 2 ай бұрын
@@miuitest5272if you read the Bible the acts of the apostles 16:6-7 you can see that the Holy Spirit proceeds also from the son
@AkshayJohn-yi8ro
@AkshayJohn-yi8ro 2 ай бұрын
​@@XxRockSoulxX Is Christianity growing in your country, Romania?
@berd_ra
@berd_ra 6 ай бұрын
You should be on Patrick bet David’s podcast
@buttermargarin440
@buttermargarin440 6 ай бұрын
thats what im saying. We need to comment on PBD about him
@AveChristusRex789
@AveChristusRex789 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to see Trent Horn on there
@jessamynreforsado6172
@jessamynreforsado6172 5 ай бұрын
I read some comments about Catholic and Orthodox, they said, many Catholic priests are more humble than Orthodox priest.
@Italiangirl-421
@Italiangirl-421 6 ай бұрын
I love you and Ruslan!! He had two orthodox people on his podcast… You should connect with him! That would be a great debate
@JordanToJericho
@JordanToJericho 5 ай бұрын
You need to add the context that Ruslan was just responding to a video that taught these things. He did just wake up one day and decide to say all of this. You should respond to the original Infographics Video.
@elijahogan7066
@elijahogan7066 6 ай бұрын
This is a very surprising video as this has been something I struggling with myself. I came to Christianity through the Protestant church but from watching you and doing my own research I am now questioning my Protestant church with how they do things. I’ve been feeling myself more align with the Catholic and Orthodox Church. Already it has started a divide in my family when I have expressed this. If anyone could help me or send additional research it’d be helpful. About to fast pray over this.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
Research about what exactly? Ask your parents why was the Church wrong for 1500 years according to protestantism even though Jesus clearly said ”I will be with you until the end of the age” and ”the Gates of hell will not prevail against the Church” and St Paul saying ”the Church of God which is the pillar and foundation of Truth”. If the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth then how could they be wrong for 1500years?
@ivanipatov6559
@ivanipatov6559 6 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic The Church has not made mistakes for 2 thousand years, but people like the Pope or Luther can and have made mistakes
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
@@ivanipatov6559 The Catholic Church alone is undefiled. The eastern Pseudo-Orthodox Churches have fallen away from the Apostolic faith since you blaspheme the Lord Jesus Christ by saying that the holy Ghost does not proceed from Him. You are also blasphemers and schismatics for denying the lawful and supreme authority of St Peter and his successors. The Pseudo-Orthodox are inconsistent with their own tradition where evidence for these two dogmatic doctrines are replete. This shows that Pseudo-Orthodoxy lives off of their hate towards Rome instead of loving Truth.
@rhwinner
@rhwinner 6 ай бұрын
God bLess your understanding, and lead you to the Truth. I will pray for you. A book I can recommend is _Why We're Catholic_ by a prominent apologist, _Confessions_ by Augustine, _Imitation of Christ,_ _Seven Storey Mountain_ by Merton. ❤
@elijahogan7066
@elijahogan7066 5 ай бұрын
@@rhwinner thank you, I’m going to look into these books.
@barborazajacova7633
@barborazajacova7633 6 ай бұрын
Ruslan is Armenian and he was originally Orthodox if I'm right.
@FDCNC
@FDCNC 6 ай бұрын
Oriental Orthodox
@barborazajacova7633
@barborazajacova7633 6 ай бұрын
@FDCNC thank you I wasn't sure about that. He definitely said he used to be quite involved in the Armenian church when he was a boy.
@FDCNC
@FDCNC 6 ай бұрын
@@barborazajacova7633 No problem but don't mistake Oriental Orthodox with Eastern Orthodox.
@daniels7250
@daniels7250 6 ай бұрын
I think he’s from Algeria
@barborazajacova7633
@barborazajacova7633 6 ай бұрын
@FDCNC yes I wasn't sure about which Orthodoxy the Armenian church is, so I didn't write Eastern Orthodox.
@MiguelMangada
@MiguelMangada Ай бұрын
Very well said Brod. God bless you
@patrickrico3418
@patrickrico3418 5 ай бұрын
Excellent segment! Just subscribed.
@orearmenteros1071
@orearmenteros1071 5 ай бұрын
If only there was a book we could send him. The book could be named something like...... "ANSWERING ORTHODOXY" by Michael Lofton 😂🤣. This is not a paid/sponsored comment. Keep up the great work brother, you are inspiring minds and changing hearts, may God continue to bless you and Our Lady keep you.
@hippios
@hippios 5 ай бұрын
lofton? seriously? lol
@orearmenteros1071
@orearmenteros1071 5 ай бұрын
@@hippios of course. I happen to be a fellow popespslainer. I believe in submitting to the magisterium.
@louisbusta6369
@louisbusta6369 5 ай бұрын
How can the ecumenical councils support papal infallibility when Pope Honorius was condemned as a heretic at the sixth ecumenical council? “And with these we define that there shall be expelled from the holy Church of God and anathematized Honorius who was some time Pope of Old Rome, because of what we found written by him to Sergius, that in all respects he followed his view and confirmed his impious doctrines.” The Sentence Against the Monothelites. Session XIII
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
Easy. Because all you need is to read the defintion of papal infallability. Honorius didn’t use papal Infallability since he explicitly said I don’t define anything and we leave the issue of one or two wills ”To the grammarians”. That’s it, although many foolish catholics take a terrible view trying to say he was misunderstood which means he was wrongly anathematized. Don’t listen to such foolish catholics.
@TheMoreYouSew
@TheMoreYouSew 5 ай бұрын
Hey! Could you also address Jordan Cooper's arguments against Roman Catholicism? He's a Lutheran theologian and has a video on "5 Reasons I'm not Roman Catholic" that would be helpful to get your perspective on!
@lonniestoute8762
@lonniestoute8762 5 ай бұрын
Love you teachings Bro. I pray you remain steadfast . Be Blessed +t+
@daikatton
@daikatton 6 ай бұрын
Love and peace to all of my brothers in Christ, I hope that we can one day be united in Christ's Church 🇻🇦✝️❤
@John777-3
@John777-3 5 ай бұрын
This is in response to a reply under another comment. Someone in his great historical knowledge decided to use Orthodox Bishops being starved for weeks at Florence before they submitted to the Pope(a man) under the direction of the emperor and Pope or else they'd be denied support against the Ottomans as some proof that the Papacy is valid. To my RC brothers and sisters, if this is in someway how any of you genuinely feel then I'm not really sure what to say. Idek where I'd begin to unpack such an ignorant statement.
@donmorrissey1453
@donmorrissey1453 2 ай бұрын
Amazing how these people blurt out rubbish and don't even bother to do proper research.
@AnakinSkywalkerYT
@AnakinSkywalkerYT 2 ай бұрын
Hey man! I hope that you can still see comments on this video. I am currently a Roman Catholic who has been on the fence with the Catholic and Orthodox church for a while now. I am almost at the point of converting to Orthodoxy, and I was wondering if you can please put some sources for what you said in the first part of the video? It would be very helpful.
@XavierChristusRex
@XavierChristusRex 23 күн бұрын
Michael Lofton is a good source for all the citations. The acts of the ecumenical council have plenty of statements that affirm papal primacy and infallibility which all the bishops affirmed.
@MihovilPletikos
@MihovilPletikos 6 ай бұрын
there is one huge issue with discussing orthodoxy, and it is specific issue in the west where orthodoxy is not native, since in places where it is native this is clear fact. orthodoxy is in its nature primarily political and only then it is faith.
@annb9029
@annb9029 6 ай бұрын
I think he use to be Orthodox but since he left to be Protestant not sure how educated he was
@pmagrin
@pmagrin 5 ай бұрын
He was an oriental orthodox.
@Dougwatson2
@Dougwatson2 5 ай бұрын
God bless, brother. Love the vids!
@GTmarine77
@GTmarine77 24 күн бұрын
Very funny to imply that they are consistent when once in time they understood that the head of all churches was the church of Rome, the filioque logic was already tough in the early Christians writers like Cyril of Alexandria, St Augustine, St Epiphanius of Salamis and orhers. They broke away from that, hence cannot be deemed as consistent.
@stepawayreality7305
@stepawayreality7305 5 ай бұрын
Can you make a video about the first seven ecumenical councils teaching papal infallibility/supremacy?
@paquitojhs
@paquitojhs 5 ай бұрын
He grew up Orthodox so it’s only natural that he will view Orthodoxy in a favorable way.
@amirsad4113
@amirsad4113 5 ай бұрын
Orthodoxy is the best❤
@iqgustavo
@iqgustavo 5 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:56 *🔄 Orthodox Church's consistency is questioned due to its historical changes post-Schism, contrary to Protestant claims.* 02:33 *🚫 Example of celibacy in priesthood not decisive as apostolic tradition includes both married and celibate apostles.* 03:28 *🧐 All Bishops' equality misconception; papal infallibility was acknowledged from early church history, not just a post-Schism invention.* 05:06 *🔍 Peter's singular acknowledgment implies his infallibility, rooted in Jesus' promise, as per Luke 22.* 07:48 *💬 Purgatory doctrine shared by both Catholicism and Orthodoxy, despite different terminology, traced back to early church beliefs.* 10:33 *📚 Protestant misunderstanding of Orthodoxy due to insufficient historical research, challenges Orthodox consistency.*
@manny75586
@manny75586 5 ай бұрын
Ruslan is one of the better Prots. He was raised Armenian Oriental Ortho, so it's not shocking that he'd just slide back into where he came from. He had Trent Horn on. He just needs to get Jimmy Akin in to sort him out.
@Rjfjgjjxj
@Rjfjgjjxj 6 ай бұрын
We need a voice of reason vs jay dyer debate for this topic
@reverendcoffinsotherson5807
@reverendcoffinsotherson5807 5 ай бұрын
A seasoned debater like Dyer vs someone who had just one debate online before? That ..... would be an interesting event...
@roeseldelgado
@roeseldelgado 5 ай бұрын
yeah he’s not ready for jay, wouldn’t be a good look for us catholics
@Truthstter
@Truthstter 5 ай бұрын
Not ready, jay is a beast
@HiranoJintan
@HiranoJintan 5 ай бұрын
Agreed, if you’re gonna take such a stance and make more content calling out Orthodoxy, then he should just go for a serious debate. imo
@cruznature7545
@cruznature7545 5 ай бұрын
​@@Truthstter..That's a Trent Horn fish.
@nikolakrcic1021
@nikolakrcic1021 Ай бұрын
Hello brother I got a question?. What is the truth and what do you say when non Catholics say 'the early church fathers were Catholic but NOT ROMAN CATHOLIC'. Is there any truth to that? Is there any difference between the catholic church, and the Roman catholic church??
@seanconlon482
@seanconlon482 5 ай бұрын
@voiceofreason Could you help me out bro. I'm a Pentecostal church Pastor (not a crazy one though 😅). I became Pentecostal Christian after a minisry of that denomination lead me to a place of faith in Jesus and out of drug addiction. Before this i considered myself an atheist, although I had previously been a very very extremely nominal not really believeing but confirmed Catholic (I got confirmed because I was oromised a new pair of jeans for the ceremony). Long intro I know, but it gives you some context. I'm now starting to explore the Catholic church after becoming friends with a Catholic Deacon, who is easily the most godly man I have ever met. Can you explain to me though the Catholic understanding of people baptised in the Pentecostal tradition? I was baptised and confirmed in the Catholic church (nominally) but my wife has only ever been baptised in the Pentecostal church. My children have never been baptised. So my question is, what would the Catholic church teach in terms of our salvation? Are myself, my wife and my children currently assured of salvation, or not? Thanks in advance, Sean
@chelseahealingtoheal
@chelseahealingtoheal 5 ай бұрын
I heard from Catholic priests that Orthodox didn’t want to take out books in the canon causing the schism, but Catholics wanted to remove some books as they felt they were not inspired. The only other difference between them is the immaculate conception of mother Mary, where orthodox believe it was an impassionate conception, but Orthodox have kept everything else the same. Is that not accurate?
@CanditoTrainingHQ
@CanditoTrainingHQ 5 ай бұрын
Its not.
@Jorgieboy7
@Jorgieboy7 5 ай бұрын
Ruslan is pretty cool man he doesn't bash catholics or orthodox I'm pretty sure he would definitely have you on his channel you guys would definitely have a good conversation . BTW love the videos 🙏
@silveriorebelo2920
@silveriorebelo2920 18 күн бұрын
he doesn't bash catholics, but he totally distorts the catholic faith??
@adanajosna
@adanajosna Ай бұрын
I fail to see how Jesus made Peter infallible in Luke 22 when the very next thing he does is fail by denying Jesus. Furthermore in Galatians 2, Paul makes it very clear just how fallible Peter was.
@Meadmon
@Meadmon 5 ай бұрын
I just heard about the Palmarian church. I’m currently non denominational, but I have a lot of theology questions. How does Roman Catholic, Orthodox, oriental orthodox, and Palmarian Catholics all claim to be the true church?
@VivatChristusRex99
@VivatChristusRex99 Ай бұрын
Palmarian should not be included. It’s a 20 century creation intended to imitate Roman Catholics
@Sinha010
@Sinha010 6 ай бұрын
You didn't give an example of what tradition the Orthodox changed. You need to give an argument, not just state a position.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
The two biggest and most obvious is 1. Error on the procession of the holy Ghost. Which is taught by all Church Fathers commenting on that issue and accepted at the 7th Ecumenical Council. 2. Error on the divinely instituted supreme authority on St Peter and His successor at Rome. This is found amongst many Church Fathers/Saints and in multiple Ecumenical Councils.
@ivanipatov6559
@ivanipatov6559 6 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic you teach falsely
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
@@ivanipatov6559 No you are just ignorant of your own tradition. I’m an ex ”orthodox” who never wanted to leave or thought that I would, until I did the research and found out how wrong those who call themselves ”orthodox” are. People like you hate Rome more than they love truth.
@ivanipatov6559
@ivanipatov6559 6 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic I don’t know why I should hate Rome, I've never even been there ) maybe because the followers of Rome taught you this
@ivanipatov6559
@ivanipatov6559 6 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-CatholicIn any case, your answer will not make these two points above true because you are teaching falsely.
@stephenler3850
@stephenler3850 5 ай бұрын
Awesome work brother 👍 God Bless You 🙏🏻❤
@pavlosstaios6954
@pavlosstaios6954 Күн бұрын
No, Eastern Orthodoxy does NOT accept the doctrine of purgatory, NOR God cleansing you after death! Take this piece of information from an Eastern Orthodox!
@aleksandarstavric2226
@aleksandarstavric2226 5 ай бұрын
the name of the Orthodox Church is One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church !!! .... catholicity means fullness or perfection, wholeness ...there are many Patriarchates and all of them together are united ( in catholicity - Greek word) . A thousand years a go - Rome (as one of the patriarchates of the Orthodox church ) fall of from the Orthodox Catholic Church and started to preach Roman Catholicism - a deviant and spiritually polluted version of Orthodox Catholicism
@michailkazakos23
@michailkazakos23 3 ай бұрын
So in the council of Florence Those orthodox bishop weren’t forced?? Is it a lie that were treated bad by the the Pope of Rome util they all signed the union? and only Mark of Ephesus stand up and didn’t sign? What is your point of about this?
@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve
@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve 6 ай бұрын
Hopefully you send him this video. That way he can understand the Catholic side more Clearly. God bless. 🙏🏻🔥🍷🍞🙌🏻⛪️✝️🕊📿
@esewey1289
@esewey1289 5 ай бұрын
I have chosen Catholicism. I don’t regret it🔥✝️
@macdan22
@macdan22 5 ай бұрын
LOL He's censoring the chat, removing threads that call out his wrongs.
@aleksandarstavric2226
@aleksandarstavric2226 5 ай бұрын
"Now I confidently say that whosoever calls himself, or desires to be called, Universal Priest, is in his elation the precursor of Antichrist, because he proudly puts himself above all others." - Pope of Rome St.Gregory the Great - defender of Orthodoxy (or as he is known in the Orthodox Church, Saint Gregory the Dialogist; Book VII: Epistle XXXIII)
@History_MadeMe_Catholic
@History_MadeMe_Catholic 5 ай бұрын
This guy, Ruslan, he use to have his buddy Cameron Bertuzzi on all of the time.. Well, now his buddy is Catholic…. lol….. This poor fella has not ever read the Councils… ever! 😅
@vigilantchristian6314
@vigilantchristian6314 5 ай бұрын
Why are the Byzantine churches in union with Rome changing their tradition by adopting the Gregorian calendar?
@bluemango8689
@bluemango8689 5 ай бұрын
Bro you have a really cool voice! if i have your voice i won't stop talking lol
@mjgalante1
@mjgalante1 5 ай бұрын
But where in the bible does it say that peter is in charge of the church? Doesn't James & Paul rebuke Peter on some gentile matters? If peter is in charge...... he couldn't be rebuked
@Motivation_Hub563
@Motivation_Hub563 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video I’ve been debating between being baptized Catholic or Orthodox, I do believe Catholic is the true first universal church Jesus Created❤
@VictorG10264
@VictorG10264 5 ай бұрын
You should be go in Jay Dyers show
@annabanana2623
@annabanana2623 5 ай бұрын
And get smoked.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
Ask him who his bishop is. The orthodogs reject him.
@swires1
@swires1 5 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic It's so blatantly obvious that characters like Jay Dyer and David Erhan are self-interested grifters. I remember how he was shilling conspiracy content not long ago, when that was still trendy. Soon, the "oRtHoBrO" meme will be over just the same.
@VictorG10264
@VictorG10264 5 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic I don’t think that would be relevant to go on his show. There are Catholic priests that reject the pope but are still catholic (even though that would make them not catholic they still identify as catholic)
@roshandsouza2787
@roshandsouza2787 6 ай бұрын
Extra Ecclesiam catholicam nulla salus 🇻🇦🙏🏻
@riccardozorn1822
@riccardozorn1822 5 ай бұрын
Vatican II?
@caseycardenas1668
@caseycardenas1668 5 ай бұрын
​@@riccardozorn1822The Church is Christ, outside of the Church there is no Salvation.
@riccardozorn1822
@riccardozorn1822 5 ай бұрын
@caseycardenas1668 yeah, but Vatican II says something other. What we do now?
@caseycardenas1668
@caseycardenas1668 5 ай бұрын
@@riccardozorn1822 plug where it says something else
@caseycardenas1668
@caseycardenas1668 5 ай бұрын
@@riccardozorn1822 What does Vatican II say that you claim is different?
@CrownedDiaries
@CrownedDiaries 5 ай бұрын
I have a genuine and honest question. Maybe if you do a Q&A video this question can be selected for an answer... :) .... As a protestant I genuinely would like to know how Catholics ask Mary to pray for them all? I would think that she is not omnipotent like God so how can she handle all these prayer requests? I don't want to be ignorant but I honestly wonder the thought behind that practice
@CrownedDiaries
@CrownedDiaries 5 ай бұрын
oh, one more question: What about Jesus being our new high priest/ the one who intercedes for us? My thinking is that we pray to Jesus because he is our high priest and we don’t need to ask loved ones to pray for us.
@kristinafinley2394
@kristinafinley2394 6 ай бұрын
I am stuck on the part where you said Andrew was married. I have never heard that or found reference to that, in fact I found documentation that states the opposite was true. There is also a theory (which I believe more than others) that St. Peter was widowed by the time Jesus came for him. There is only mention of his mother in law, never his wife, and in all his travels both as a disciple of Jesus and then as an Apostle there is not any documentation that Peter's wife went with him anywhere or that he was still married. Jesus Christ would never ask his disciples or Apostles to abandon their family because that is their state in life as husbands/fathers, which, as we know, is just as important and Holy as being priests or nuns. Imagine St. Joseph abandoning the Blessed Mother and Jesus? Impossible. It is more plausible that all of the Apostles were unmarried at the time they followed Jesus. This would be consistent with the priesthood, which conforms to Christ's status of High Priest and unmarried. Just my 2 cents.
@hugoalbertomunguia
@hugoalbertomunguia 5 ай бұрын
I've been following Ruslan for a while now. He's a cool guy and has awesome content. Tbh I'm just waiting for him to say he converted to catholicism anytime soon. Ever since he had Trent horn in his show.
@thepentacostalchatholicconvert
@thepentacostalchatholicconvert 5 ай бұрын
Great video!👍🏼
@lesmen4
@lesmen4 6 ай бұрын
Ruslan, you are roasted .
@jeffersonfrunk3210
@jeffersonfrunk3210 5 ай бұрын
Just a thought, if papal infallibility was around since the time of the apostles, why did St Paul directly reprimand and contradict what St Peter said about circumcision, if St Peter was infallible St Paul should not have corrected him or challenged what he said.
@arturmonteiro8541
@arturmonteiro8541 5 ай бұрын
Ex cathedra.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 4 ай бұрын
He didn’t. Read the Scriptures more carefully next time. He reprimanded for his jewish supremacy.
@XavierChristusRex
@XavierChristusRex 23 күн бұрын
Its not everything the pope says that is infallible only when its ex cathedra.
@carmeister_
@carmeister_ 5 ай бұрын
Awesome now to see Ruslan respond to it lol
@wlg2677
@wlg2677 4 күн бұрын
God took Evangelization work away from the Orthodox Church.
@Hallowed_Knight
@Hallowed_Knight 5 ай бұрын
"Rome has been consistent after the schism" *insert vatican 1 and 2*
@VoiceOfReason_
@VoiceOfReason_ 5 ай бұрын
The teachings of both Vatican Councils are found in the first millennium. Maybe if you actually read them and also knew what the early Church taught you wouldn’t make such silly comments 😊
@miuitest5272
@miuitest5272 5 ай бұрын
Read 7th rule of 3rd ecumenical council. Its deffinetly forbide to add some thing to faith, and filiokve is definitely an addition.
@daffy4Christ
@daffy4Christ 5 ай бұрын
I don’t know…. Using Luke 22 to use as backup of the infallibility of Luke and every “pope” after him seems like a big leap. Because surely they cannot mean they can never be in “error” because if so then what about when he was in dispute with Paul, where it seems Paul was right in that case. Also, if you want to say it’s only at certain times, then where is that mentioned in scripture? Alll you are going off it seems is the phrase “your faith won’t fail.” Seems like a huge stretch. And if you want to attribute this only to Peter, how do you get that to pass on to every pope after him? Even if you point to Peter as the rock and the one who Christ will build his church how do you get there being a line of Popes after him being infallible?
@RawSan98
@RawSan98 6 ай бұрын
Love your channel! I'm learning so much
@ThatGuy-nr5sp
@ThatGuy-nr5sp 5 ай бұрын
Yes he pray that Peter would not fail and that he told Peter in verse 32 then in Luke 22:34 Jesus said, “I tell you, Peter, the rooster will not crow this day, until you deny three times that you know me.” Then Peter went on to deny him and was the only apostle who did. So how is that being infallible ? Or Jesus proclaiming Peter to be infallible?
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
Peter was infallible AFTER the ressurection
@ThatGuy-nr5sp
@ThatGuy-nr5sp 5 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic Well this verse in no way tells us that, but tell me which verse does say he was after the resurrection ?
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
@@ThatGuy-nr5sp It does. AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN CONVERTED.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
@@ThatGuy-nr5sp And after the ressurection Jesus gave ALL of his sheep to the authority of Peter. So if protestants and orthodogs deny having to be under the authority of Peter and his successors, then neccessarily you admit that you are not a sheep of Jesus Christ.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
@@ThatGuy-nr5sp Btw it is clear that you dont know what papal Infallability is. Study the defintion, it is very narrow. It has only been used 2 times the last 200 years for instance. It’s when the Pope defines something for the whole Church to believe as divinely revealed. Outside of that the Pope can err in his teachings.
@Murphydennis2332
@Murphydennis2332 5 ай бұрын
Dude just twisted the scripture to the point satan himself must be amazed.
@WaterMelon-Cat
@WaterMelon-Cat 6 ай бұрын
Limbo was a pretty strong tradition although not official dogma. Limbo was written about by multiple Pope's in fact. Then all the sudden after 600 years of Limbo theology it all the sudden disappeared from Catholicism. Can you talk about this changing tradition?
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
I dont think limbo dissapoeared. Maybe limbo of the children? Limbo was Abrahams bosom. Catholicism always taught Jesus went down and saved all the righteous.
@WaterMelon-Cat
@WaterMelon-Cat 5 ай бұрын
Limbo is no longer tradition. Show me any modern scholar who is talking about the same limbo that was talk about for 600 years. It just dissappeared. Also show me where Pope Clement said that faith only intitislly justifies and that you need to get “further justification” because he literally says in his letters that works do not justify in any way. I’ve never met a catholic who can survive without lying @@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
@@WaterMelon-CatYour mother is a liar. Define limbo then so we can discuss. Catholicism DO believe in the limbo of children, what are you on about? Any child without baptism go to limbo ”the part of hell where there is no fire”, in fact many if not most theologians believe they have a natural happiness. Can you give me the quote and context of justification question? If any Pope have said ”Works do not justify in any way” then obviously he means it for initial justification. That’s Catholic teaching. No works or even faith can merit the grace of regeneration.
@caseycardenas1668
@caseycardenas1668 5 ай бұрын
​@@Thomistic-CatholicSaying Catholicism does teach Limbo is incorrect. Limbo was a medieval theological opinion that many still hold to, which is permitted, but it is not a dogmatic stance of the Church.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
@@caseycardenas1668 You are wrong. If limbo means a place where there was no sensible punishment, then this was always taught [To have existed]. We have dogmatic statements that those who die in original sin go down to a part of hell where there is no fire. Catholicism always believed in the limbo of the Fathers aswell [Abrahams Bosom] where the righteous went and waited on Christ. Catholicism doesn’t believe the limbo of the fathers exist any longer because Christ DISSOLVED LIMBO, he took the righteous to HEAVEN. This has always been taught and is scriptural. You are probably one of those heretics who think ”we can hope” for the salvation of unbaptized infants. That has indeed never been taught, but been opposed, because it’s heretical.
@Richard-hn8ex
@Richard-hn8ex 5 ай бұрын
What brand is that shirt from? I need to buy some of those
@XPISTOS-ANESTH
@XPISTOS-ANESTH 5 ай бұрын
The Errors of the Catholics(kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZfIoGl3YpqUnac) This is the best challenge to the Roman Church I have yet heard. God bless to my all Christian brothers/sisters.
@CyrusTheGreat183
@CyrusTheGreat183 4 ай бұрын
hi im new to this how can someone be infallible what does it mean like someone cannot sin? i thought we are all sinners.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 4 ай бұрын
Infallible does not mean sinless. That would be impeccability. Ibfallability refers to correct doctrine, in certain circumstances
@Viiola24
@Viiola24 3 ай бұрын
What it means is, I can say you shouldn’t lie but I lie. So you can have perfect views but not really obey them. Popes are not sinless. They are men. Therefore have sinful nature. Two different things. What the brother said.
@CyrusTheGreat183
@CyrusTheGreat183 3 ай бұрын
@@Viiola24ah i see i thought it meant something else thank u :)
@CyrusTheGreat183
@CyrusTheGreat183 3 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholici appreciatie it thanks
@Viiola24
@Viiola24 3 ай бұрын
@@CyrusTheGreat183 my pleasure 😊
@Lastchance..
@Lastchance.. 5 ай бұрын
Cant find verse at luke 22
@MrGordonbrett
@MrGordonbrett 5 ай бұрын
I found the verse he’s claiming, BUT dude is doing a ton of hoop jumping saying that Peter’s “faith fail not” means that Peter and all his successors would be infallible and never make mistakes. Not to mention his explanation of purgatory is not at all what I have heard orthodox priests calling the process after death
@Lastchance..
@Lastchance.. 5 ай бұрын
@@MrGordonbrett To be honest my brother I've been exploring more and more as things are revealed in time with continual prayer at the best I can. I'd say look into the original church/it's writings alongside Martin Luther's personal writings...I was convinced orthodoxy initially but the Catholics are hard to deny their claim and legitimacy
@Lastchance..
@Lastchance.. 5 ай бұрын
@@MrGordonbrett Pray on it my brother as I am currently deciding between the two of Orthodoxy and Carholicism but just read and pray fervently
@IoannisKedikoglou
@IoannisKedikoglou 6 ай бұрын
the problem with the celibate priests is that it obligatory in roman catholicism, ans the issue is also that Roman Catholic reformed. The celibacy was added and wasn't obligatory for the first 1000 years. No no one believed that the pope was infallible, have you read the ecumenical councils ?! The whole thing about Peters is such is stretch lmao and if that would be true then Antioch should also be infallible because before Peter was in Rome, he was in Antioch before. And yes we were Catholic and we still are Catholic. We are the one true catholic and apostolic church. You are Roman Catholic.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
Papal infallability was a teaching. Your saints taught that the Pope has the right to define the faith and that Rome can never lose the faith. This is taught by your saints and councils. The supremacy is handed down where Peter died alone.
@IoannisKedikoglou
@IoannisKedikoglou 6 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic I am not here to debate but this is straight up wrong. Even the eighth ecumenical council, Constantinople 4, declared anathema on pope Horenius I due to his support for the monothelite heresy. We believed in papal primacy, not papal supremacy. And we would again if the RCC would come back. Anyways, God bless
@reverendcoffinsotherson5807
@reverendcoffinsotherson5807 6 ай бұрын
There are married Roman rite Catholic priests. It is not a dogma. It is not obligatory at all.
@ethanreads8504
@ethanreads8504 6 ай бұрын
@@IoannisKedikoglou Wrong. Papal infallibility only occurs when the Pope (1) intends to teach (2) by virtue of his supreme authority (3) on a matter of faith and morals (4) to the whole Church. It is something that has to be declared and bound, legally speaking. A pope can hold incorrect views whilst maintaining the position of papal supremacy. Your lack of education in Catholic law is showing. Do better, schismatic.
@IoannisKedikoglou
@IoannisKedikoglou 5 ай бұрын
@@reverendcoffinsotherson5807 no you either don't know or lie. Celibacy is mandated for all clergy inside the Latin Church except in the permanent diaconate
@Memento_Mori_3
@Memento_Mori_3 5 ай бұрын
Peter being "the rock," as well as the Pope being a special successor of Peter (and Paul), does not indicate or support papal infallibility. That is the real issue. The new testament shows us that not even Peter himself was infallible (denying Christ 3 times, fighting with Paul about the status of gentile converts, etc.). Only Jesus infallible.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
Please aquaint yourself with what papal Infallability is. It’s a narrow defintion and has nothing to do with Pope not being flawed or can’t ever err.
@Memento_Mori_3
@Memento_Mori_3 5 ай бұрын
@@Thomistic-Catholic Basically it boils down to no explicit Patristic support, one possible support with St Agatho's letter in 6th Ecumenical Council to Rome never erring and will never err (in the same Council that Pope Honorius was anathematized!), and basically Rome saying "accept this as dogma or anathema because I am supreme."
@simeonwaia
@simeonwaia 5 ай бұрын
It is the Church of Jesus that is infallible. The Pope exercises that infallibility in his teaching office.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
@@Memento_Mori_3 That is not correct. Ephesus teaches St Peter will live FOREVER in his successors the Roman Pontiffs, that’s papal infallability. Const 3 as you mentioned, which doesnt take anything away because of Honorius because he didnt use papal Infallability, but became a private heretic condemned 4 decades after his death. Nicea 2 teaches St Peter gave divine command to his successors the Roman Pontiffs that they will keep his faith and Supremacy forever, that’s papal infallability. Let’s see what your own saints say St Thedore Of Studium "Since it is to the great Peter that Christ our God gave the Keys of the Kingdom and entrusted the dignity of the Chief of the flock, it is to Peter, that is to say, *His Successor, that ONE OUGHT TO SUBMIT EVERY INNOVATION which is made in the Catholic Church by those who turn aside from the truth.* That is what we humble and lowly monks have learned *from the ANCIENT FATHERS* ...I borrow now the cry of the Coryphaeus (Chief) of the Apostles, calling Christ to his succour when the waves of the sea were risen up, and say to your Blessedness who art the Representative of Christ, *'O First shepherd of the Church which is under heaven', SAVE US NOW, we perish.* Imitate Christ your Master, stretch out your hand to *YOUR CHURCH* as He stretched out His hand to Peter. Peter began to sink in the waves, *whilst our Church is still ONCE MORE submerged in the depths of HERESY.* Emulate, we beg you, the great Pope whose name you bear [Pope Leo the Great], and just as he on the appearance of the Eutychian heresy, stood erect spiritually as a lion with his *dogmatic letters,* so in your turn (I dare to say it because of your name) roar *DIVINELY,* or rather send forth your thunders against the present heresy. For if they, usurping an authority which does not belong to them, have dared to convene a heretical Council [of Hieria with 338 Bishops in 753 A.D.], while those who following *ANCIENT CUSTOM, HAVE NOT EVEN THE RIGHT of convoking an orthodox one WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE,* it seems absolutely necessary, we dare say it to you, that your *DIVINE PRIMACY* should call together a lawful Council, so that the Catholic Dogma may drive away heresy and neither your primacy may be anathematized with all the orthodox by these new voices without authority, nor that wills wickedly disposed may find in this adulterous Council an excuse for being involved in sin. It is *ORDER TO OBEY YOUR DIVINE AUTHORITY AS CHIEF PASTOR* that we have set forth these things as it befitted our nothingness, we the least members of the Church." And Pope Pascal is termed: *"THE ROCK OF THE FAITH,* ON WHICH IS BUILT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, FOR YOU ARE PETER, who adorn and govern the See of Peter." ”Philip, presbyter and legate of [Pope St Celestine I] said: ‘We offer our thanks to the holy and venerable synod, that when the writings of our holy and blessed pope had been read to you . . . you joined yourselves to the holy Head also by your holy acclamations. For your blessednesses is not ignorant that *the head of the WHOLE FAITH, the head of the apostles, is blessed Peter the apostle.”* And St Nicephorus Of Constantinople *”Without whom (the Romans presiding in the seventh Council) a doctrine brought forward in the Church could not, even though confirmed by canonical decrees and by ecclesiastical usuage, ever obtain full approval or currency. For it is they (the Popes of Rome) who have had assigned to them the rule in sacred things, and who have received into their hands the dignity of Headship among the Apostles.”* (Nicephorus, Niceph. Cpl. pro. s. imag. c 25 [Mai N. Bibl. pp. ii. 30]). And St Stephen of Dor speaking to the Pope; ”And for this cause, sometimes we asked for water to our head and to our eyes a fountain of tears, sometimes the wings of a dove, according to holy David, that we might fly away and announce these things to the Chair which RULES AND PRESIDES OVER ALL, I mean to yours, the Head and Highest, for the *healing of the whole wound [Of Heresy]. For this it has been accustomed to do FROM OF OLD AND FROM THE BEGINNING* And St Ignatius Of Constantinople writing to the Pope said. ”Art has provided many physicians for the wounds in the limbs of men...but of wounds in the members of Christ our God and Savior, the Head of us all, and of His Spouse, the Catholic and Apostolic Church, the Supreme Chief and most powerful Word, Orderer, Healer and Master, the God of all, has produced *ONE ONLY AND PRE-EMINENT AND MOST UNIVERSAL PHYSICIAN, that is, YOUR FRATERNAL AND FATHERLY GOODNESS…* This is why, since the most ANCIENT TIMES, each occasion that heresy and prevarication have come to light, YOUR PREDECESSORS ON THIS THRONE, that is to say, the Successors of the Prince of the Apostles, and imitators of his zeal for the Christian Faith, *have torn up the tares and destroyed the members which were corrupt or incurably affected."* And St Athanasius said ”For Dionysius, Bishop of Rome, having written also against those who said that the Son of God was a creature and a created thing, it is manifest that *not now for the first time, but from of old, the heresy of the Arian adversaries of Christ has been anathematized BY ALL.”* And Maximus in the letter addressed to the Orientals says: “ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH which have sincerely received the Lord and catholics everywhere professing the true faith look to the *Church of the Romans* as to the sun, and receive *FROM IT, THE LIGHT OF THE CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC FAITH.”* Again speaking of the Roman See "she holds the keys of the orthodox confession and faith in Him and opens the only true and real religion to those who approach with godliness, while on the other hand, it shuts up and locks every heretical mouth that speaks unrighteousness against the most High“. And St John Cassian says ”That great man, the disciple of disciples, the master among masters, who wielding the government of the Roman Church, possessed the *PRINCIPLE AUTHORITY IN FAITH AND IN PRIESTHOOD.* TELL US THEREFORE, we beg of you Peter, prince of Apostles, *TELL US HOW THE CHURCHES MUST BELIEVE IN GOD”* (Cassian, Contra Nestorium, III, 12, CSEL, vol. 17, p. 276). And St Peter Chrysologus told Eutyches: "We exhort you, honorable brother, to listen obediently to what has been written by the blessed Pope of Rome, since Blessed Peter, who *LIVES AND PRESIDES IN HIS OWN SEE, GRANTS THE TRUTH OF FAITH TO THOSE WHO SEEK IT.* For we, in our zeal for peace and faith, cannot hear cases about faith *WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE BISHOP OF ROME.* [Inter epp. S. Leonis, 25. PL 54: 743]. And Pope St Simplicius said "for the *NORM OF SOUND DOCTRINE PERSISTS IN THE SUCCESSOR OF HIM TO WHOM THE LORD ENJOINED THE CARE OF THE ENTIRE FLOCK,* with whom he promised to be present *EVEN TO THE END OF TIME,* against whom he promised that the gates of hell would NEVER prevail, and testified that WHATEVER was bound by HIS sentence on earth could not be loosed EVEN IN HEAVEN." [CSEL 35: 127-8]. And the bishops of Cyprus held a synod 29th May, 643, against the Ecthesis. They wrote to Pope Theodore: "Christ, our God, has instituted *YOUR Apostolic chair, O holy HEAD, as a GOD-FIXED AND IMMOVABLE FOUNDATION.* For thou, as truly spake the Divine Word, art Peter, and upon THY foundation the pillars of the Church are FIXED, and to you He committed the keys of the kingdom of Heaven. He ordered you to bind and loose with authority on earth and in heaven. *THOU ART SET AS THE DESTROYER OF PROFANE HERESIES AS CHIEF AND LEADER of the orthodox and unsullied faith.* Despise not then, Father, the Faith of our Fathers, tossed by waves and imperilled; disperse the rule of the foolish with the light of *THY DIVINE KNOWLEDGE, O MOST HOLY. Destroy the blasphemies and insolence of the new heretics with their novel expression* St Ireneaus ”by pointing out here the succession of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles. With *THAT CHURCH,* because of its preeminent authority, *ALL THE CHURCHES MUST AGREE,* that is, *ALL THE FAITHFUL IN THE WHOLE WORLD,* and it is *IN HER* that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition” (Against Heresies 3:3:2). And St Maximus The Confessor says ”For ever since the Incarnate Word of God came down to us, *ALL THE CHURCHES OF CHRISTIANS EVERYWHERE have held that greatest Church there [In Rome]* to be their *sole base and foundation, since on the one hand, it is in no way overcome by the gates of Hades, according to the very promise of the Saviour”* St Leo ”[today through the bishops] the care of the Universal Church would converge in the ONE SEE OF PETER, and *NOTHING SHOULD EVER be at odds with this HEAD”* formula of Pope Hormisdas ”Wherefore, as we have already said, following *IN ALL THINGS the Apostolic See and preaching WHATEVER HAS BEEN DECREED BY IT,* I hope that I may deserve to be in one communion with you, which the Apostolic See preaches, in which is the *COMPLETE AND TRUE SOLIDITY of the Christian religion.* I also promise that during the celebration of the sacred mysteries, I shall not recite the names of those who were separated from the communion of the Catholic Church, that is, *those who do not agree IN EVERY RESPECT WITH THE APOSTOLIC SEE.* This profession of faith I have signed with my own hand, and offered it to you, Hormisdas, holy and venerable Pope of the city of Rome."
@thestudyofstuff
@thestudyofstuff 5 ай бұрын
Why did they go with Paul and not Peter then if infallible? I GOT A FORESKIN my man... do you?
@juanzendejas490
@juanzendejas490 5 ай бұрын
Make longer videos please
@javierfrias2423
@javierfrias2423 5 ай бұрын
In the first example you dismiss it because what? The apostles were married and celibate ? Orthodox agree with it but you Catholics prohibit priest from being married? What did Rome agree with prior to the schism? Yes to married/celibate priesthood or no to it?
@e2qW
@e2qW 5 ай бұрын
These 3 catholic protestant orthodox, doesn't bring u to eternal life , but Jesus does so stop listening to then , read bible and self educate and know Jesus.
@gabrielk.
@gabrielk. 5 ай бұрын
Ich liebe es wenn man orthodox sagt aber nicht differenzieren kann zwischen oriental und eastern orthodox. Orthodox ist nicht gleich Orthodox!
@socialsmigs1626
@socialsmigs1626 5 ай бұрын
Need more substance. Give me examples, man. Which doctrines are these we're talking about
@delvingeorge2807
@delvingeorge2807 6 ай бұрын
Response is good
@kennynoNope
@kennynoNope 5 ай бұрын
Debate Jay Dyer on Orthodoxy
@clementejr
@clementejr 5 ай бұрын
RUSLAN!!!!!!! LETS GOOOOOO! ❤
@MrTesla10
@MrTesla10 6 ай бұрын
Such surface level takes smh... "Know them by their fruits" my friend. This will inevitably lead you to see that the Roman Catholic church is not the true church guided by the Holly Spirit.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 6 ай бұрын
Then dont make neophyte arguments. The Catholic Church is the one true Church founded by Jesus Christ. And please dont bring up ”abuse scandals” when it’s even worse in protestantism. Take the beam from your eye first.
@FideiDefensatrix
@FideiDefensatrix 5 ай бұрын
@MrTesla10 “Knowing them by their fruits” would debunk Protestantism and Orthodoxy as well. They’re both worse off than the Catholic Church.
@anonjohn7571
@anonjohn7571 5 ай бұрын
The fruits are the largest, most robust, morally consistent, strongest religion humanity has ever witnessed. Clearly the church founded by God. You're statement is dumb
@AbdulRehmanSaleem-yf1um
@AbdulRehmanSaleem-yf1um 5 ай бұрын
Bro will you debat with Zakir Naiq ,plz
@user-kf8wb2cq4f
@user-kf8wb2cq4f 6 ай бұрын
There's so many denominations and they All say--their's is the only way.
@exposingtruth600
@exposingtruth600 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but if you study some history books on early Christianity, you can see that the church called itself “Catholic” and it’s maintained it’s tradition from the very beginning, Protestantism came about in the 1500s
@paulsmallwood1484
@paulsmallwood1484 6 ай бұрын
That is utterly false. Look at all the “Catholic denominations”, Roman Catholic, Old Catholic, Coptic, Eastern Orthodox, Armenian, Ethiopian Orthodox, Syriac, Jacobite, Assyrian, etc., etc. They all claim to be true while all the others are false. So much confusion!
@DoubleOhSilver
@DoubleOhSilver 6 ай бұрын
@@paulsmallwood1484 Utterly False. Those are different rites, they all are true and none are false. They all agree on the Catholic teachings and are in communion with each other. I, a Roman Catholic, can go to any of those churches and receive communion.
@exposingtruth600
@exposingtruth600 6 ай бұрын
@@paulsmallwood1484 Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism are different and Coptic and Ethiopian orthodox is oriental orthodoxy which is different as well, Roman Catholicism remains the same but it does have different rites
@briantorsell
@briantorsell 6 ай бұрын
@@DoubleOhSilver Old Catholics are heretical. Technically, all the rites are Roman Catholic as they are united by the Pope; Latin rite would be the term for us in the West.
@zachsidiropoulos6157
@zachsidiropoulos6157 5 ай бұрын
What changed from the Orthodox doctrines
@zachsidiropoulos6157
@zachsidiropoulos6157 5 ай бұрын
So if Peter is infallible the how are the Pope’s infallible. That of which openly invite accused pedo’s to flee their nation and come to the Vatican. As well as the Popes countless greed over hundred of years with gold and money and wanting to support war. Which is all a sin no
@joachimjustinmorgan4851
@joachimjustinmorgan4851 5 ай бұрын
Ruslan ja only wrong in that couple hundred years is way too generous. Nice coping though.
@robertweidner2480
@robertweidner2480 5 ай бұрын
The Orthodox could turn around and say: "For the first 1000 years, all the Catholics were Orthodox." I think you need to come up with better arguments.
@Thomistic-Catholic
@Thomistic-Catholic 5 ай бұрын
They can say that but the evidence prove the contrary. He doesnt have to do anything since he already has the truth on his side.
@rhwinner
@rhwinner 6 ай бұрын
Amen
@sebastianbolt7886
@sebastianbolt7886 5 ай бұрын
Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit will guide.And really, who cares what Ruslan thinks.
@petereskander4463
@petereskander4463 12 күн бұрын
this guy has no idea what he Is talCking about I am coptic
@starpaladin9532
@starpaladin9532 5 ай бұрын
The Catholic is the one that began changing first orthodox left and changed back so yeah orthodox did change but they change back where as Catholics changed all together
@Viiola24
@Viiola24 3 ай бұрын
What? 😂
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