A Very Odd Drag Race: 2025 Tesla Model 3 Performance vs Hyundai Ioniq 5 N!

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[@coenmoon-id6rm]

N is a tuned up ev dream. Want one so bad

[@MD-zb9ev]

In 5 years, you can get a used one for less than half the price.

[@coenmoon-id6rm]

@@MD-zb9ev but can’t wait that long..

[@aaronangel7937]

I bought an N instead. It was a difficult decision mainly because of the price and knowing the m3p was quicker. Everyones reasons and needs will differ, but here were my thoughts: 1. I need space. 3 kids fit in the back of a 3 dual motor, but snug and they are still growing. The headroom quickly diminishes back there. 2. I hated not having a turn signal stalk. The buttons straight up suck, and i saw many complaints about the button sticking on/off. Also, if you turn the wheel first, you can lose where the buttons are, and it's too late. 3. The cooling system is more robust and track ready. Even if I never track it, I like the feeling of it being overkill and hourly adds to the longevity of the battery and motors. 4. The Tesla looks like every other Tesla and especially to non- enthusiasts. I wanted something somewhat unique. 5. The fake shifting and sounds. Yes, it's a bit hokey on paper, but it's so well executed (the shifts, rev matching, each gear has its own powerband with dips, each gear loses power respectively to the one preceding, engine braking with 1st gear having the most etc). 6. Inevitably, something will go wrong with either car. Tesla has a limited dealer network, and the repair time are high. Way more Hyundai dealerships out there.

[@youngmanchake]

So I5N has only one disadvantage- drag race.

[@uptoolayte1]

Id be worried about that nest of hoses in the frunk standing the test of time. I agree with all your points though it's just that 20k difference that did it for me. Plus the model 3 has been out a while and they've had time to get things right. Hyundai is not known for its reliability and this ioniq is very new. I hope it does well, it looks so cool and is just a beast!

[@mstegs5477]

I've had the US spec 24 M3P for 6 weeks now. 1. Valid point 2. After some adjustment, I like them. I ride motorcycles so it's nothing unusual for me really. You just can't rest your fingers on them, or else they stick 3. 100%. No plans on tracking the Tesla. That is what the s1000rr is for :) 4. I test drove a 21 M3LR. Didn't like the look or road noise. The refresh looks good to me. I also had it tinted and removed aero caps. 5. I agree. What a move by Hyundai! 6. I had an issue with my M3P shortly after I picked it up. A mobile repair guy came to my car at work an fixed it without me having to do a thing. I am not to knowledgeable about the N, but the software/app control in the M3P is amazing. I have had free FSD since I've had it and it will drive for 3 hours, in any condition, just by pushing 1 button. In spirited driving it feels planted and responsive as well. I came from BMWs and was impressed in the sportiness of the car. RIP sound and manual though of course.

[@kchen101]

@@mstegs5477 had mine since early August and no regrets. It will never see track as I already have a dedicated car for that. Amazing daily...with FSD, auto self park, and just blistering straightline power (up to 100 mph). I suspect the cornering versus Ioniq N is similar - N prob is setup chassis wise, but weighs much more.

[@mstegs5477]

@@kchen101 Ran my M3P on the draggy today. 90% SOC, insane mode, no precondition on an ok back road, could be better. 0-60: 2.97 100-200kph: 7.61 (+3% slope) 7.37 (going down -3 slope) 1/8 mile: 7.04 @101.62 mph 1/4 mile: 10.94 @124.17 mph for 49k out the door with 1.99% financing and for comfort of a daily, it's certainly a deal.

[@thomasb3230]

The N in all Hyundais performance models stands for Namyang, where the models are developed and Nürburgring, the famous german racetrack, where the cars are tested 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@MD-zb9ev]

Still not worth the price tag.

[@thomasb3230]

⁠ I agree! But in the end, what car is worth it’s asking price today?? I drive a Polestar 2 as a company leasing . Its a great driving car, but I would never ever pay the money personally they want for this 😄

[@mstegs5477]

Ran my US spec M3P on the draggy today. 90% SOC, insane mode, no precondition On an ok back road, could be better. 0-60: 2.97 100-200kph: 7.61 (+3% slope) 7.37 (going down -3 slope) 1/8 mile: 7.04 @101.62 mph 1/4 mile: 10.94 @124.17 mph 49k out the door with 1.99% financing

[@perezdr1]

Finally, a comparison that is relevant for US buyers... thanks!

[@AlexisUrena]

Nice to see the US spec M3P against the 5N. People don't realize the American M3P use the Panasonic battery with more power and better thermals than the Euro Spec.

[@hardywoodaway9912]

and more degradation…

[@AlexisUrena]

@@hardywoodaway9912 At 5k miles I've had .5% (slightly higher than 1% a year for most folks)degradation which slows down after the first couple of years, I think most folks will be fine.

[@digitaldistressed]

It’s better than the Canadian version also…. Still take my N over it any day.

[@AlexisUrena]

@@digitaldistressed Hyundai make great EV's. And the N is definitely one to keep on a short list. Glad to hear you're enjoying it.

[@raydoherty5419]

The N is the better track car, for straight line performance there isn’t much difference (they both can basically run 11 flat), as a daily driver the 3 is vastly better regaining software, range etc but the N to me is way cooler. Both brilliant, pick which one floats your boat.

[@CaliSteve169]

None of these cars are good track cars. Too heavy especially the Hyundai. That's why it loses to a 4 banger Civic at Nurburgring.

[@raydoherty5419]

@@CaliSteve169 I said it was better, didn’t say it was good.

[@CaliSteve169]

@@raydoherty5419 not even sure about that. This is the new model 3 and is like 10-15K cheaper.

[@MotionBerlinR]

@@CaliSteve1695N is great on tracks 7:45 is a fast time, the Type R you are talking about is also a very fast car, 1 sec. faster on Nordschleife but also behind 5N on Hockenheim and other tracks. 5N did Pikes Peak in 10:33, record for SUVs is 10:32 by Lambo Urus Performante, M3P is 13:58 only fast on a straight road (fully loaded), imo boring but no prob for me if someone likes it. I like that we can choose what we like most, compared to systems like Russia, where you only get crap

[@CaliSteve169]

@@MotionBerlinR Russia isn't like this anymore. This isn't the 1990s. Otherwise, yes I see your point. However a super heavy car like this can never be a track start. You throw a lot of money into R&D and an ice car will always be the better race car. Unless you can come up with very light batteries, but this tech is not here yet.

[@joshuarosen465]

Weight matters. The Hyundai is 800lbs heavier than the Model 3 thats why the Tesla has more range and better drag times. BTW the Highland Model 3s beat their EPA numbers, in the past it was true that Teslas always underperformed but thats not true for the new Model 3. I'm getting 200Wh/mile over the last 1400 miles and 208Wh/mile over the 3500 miles that I've owned my 2024 M3 AWD. Thats mostly roadtrip miles. That's consistent with all of the 70MPh range tests that your fellow KZbinrs have done.

[@mcunha81]

@@joshuarosen465 yeah,range numbers are better then before,but performance still falls short at around 285. However put on some Ev01s 18s,and range can get to around 350!!

[@danieldagenais7945]

Ionic5N must be chewing those sport tire like crazy with this weight

[@titanx04]

Press the N button after launch , learn how to operate the features on the cars you test

[@sungbaek3526]

pushing the N button does nothing if you already use launch control

[@layne4376]

Hyundai apologists are coming out in droves.

[@NBABY-J]

@@sungbaek3526 lol. you act like you know what you are talking about lol.

[@sungbaek3526]

@@NBABY-J i do because i have a 5N....

[@sungbaek3526]

@layne4376 Eh i mean it was against the panasonic battery m3p. Under the same conditions the us spec m3p is faster in a straight line, theres really no denying that fact

[@teggy95se]

So happy to see someone NOT use track mode for a drag race AND have it preconditioning to the SC lol

[@uptoolayte1]

I know finally!

[@viranjith]

I think the model Y performance is a better comparison.

[@jghall00]

It is, but have to run what they have.

[@NlghtShifter]

So far my 2024 M3P U.S. version is beating the IQ5N. Even the 2nd race in which the M3P had a poor reaction time; it caught the IQ5N. Nice to see 10.9s (barely) by the M3P on a valid draggy run < 90% SOC & no pre-conditioning either which supposedly can make the car achieve 10.7s - 10.8s :)

[@BrolyM3P]

We can. Took mine to the 1/4 mile drag strip in Pomona ran 10.88, 10.85, 10.89 all under 90% with no preconditioning.

[@Kamikazekims]

The ioniq 5 N is Way more fun to drive

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

junk

[@jamesdavies3895]

The Tesla certainly is​@@Georgewashington-o7m

[@avis1978]

@@Georgewashington-o7m says the guy that works in a garbage depot 🤭🤭

[@Kamikazekims]

@Georgewashington-o7m don't be so hard on yourself

[@googlewolly]

Well, that's subjective.

[@Great_America]

Finally a proper race that used the US version of the new M3P. And to those that thought the I5N driver didn’t use the boost button, he did. It didn’t matter. And the M3P was in the wrong mode, so it all works out regardless. Those factors won’t change the stock 0-60 factory tested times for either vehicle. And yes, he used the boost mode and even explained how it works at 2:20. The good news is that the I5N still wins on a track course as the M3P doesn’t come with a race suspension and the brakes are only average. Winner? M3P because it’s 15K cheaper than the I5N. Also, the I5N doesn’t qualify for the full federal and state tax credits because of that.

[@uptoolayte1]

Mp3 was in the right mode.

[@NlghtShifter]

Money you save on the N can be used to upgrade the M3P (brakes & suspension) @ Unplugged Performance = problem solved and quicker vehicle ;)

[@uptoolayte1]

​@NlghtShifter then battery still has issues so you can't 10/10 like in the Ioniq.

[@alstonmiller212]

⁠@@uptoolayte1but the ionqi 5 has less range anyway

[@uptoolayte1]

​@alstonmiller212 i dont think people buying the performance variant care as much about mileage.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

Plus it is important to mention that the Tesla qualifies for the $7,500 federal subsidy (for qualifying buyers). Bringing the price down to $47K+ fees for the gray (standard/free paint color) model. They also have a deal that you can get the M3P in other colors and still qualify for the $7,500 off if you add FSD, for a full price of $57K. Otherwise the price cap is $50K to qualify for the subsidy.

[@winsormarion5160]

Tesla still has poor build quality. Remember, they are a Technology company building cars around Technology. Other experienced Car manufacturers have years of building cars 1st. It makes all the difference.

[@mad636man]

@@winsormarion5160I’ve had mine for 5 years. The only money I put into it was to change the cabin air filters. There are no rattles in my interior. Not sure what more you could ask for out of a car. Build quality is great.

[@uptoolayte1]

​@winsormarion5160 Most of the build quality issues have been addressed by the refresh and will be addressed in the new model Y next year Its just not a good excuse anymore Tesla has been responding very well to these quality control issues.

[@NlghtShifter]

​@@mad636man Same here. Tesla got moh skin in the EV car manufacturing game not to mention charging infrastructure development.

[@waychillbro]

Tesla has had the same 5 colors for how many years now?

[@jameshuegli3534]

"I don't believe the draggy." Meanwhile...the rest of the internet has verified that it is indeed a 10 second car and some people have gotten as low as 10.6.

[@chadgodfrey4364]

Roman is wrong. The draggy is right.

[@TFLcar]

Roll out vs no roll out. Please google it.

[@SD07BIKER]

About a lot too

[@racer247]

​@TFLcar Dragy can show with rollout or without rollout. It's a shame you don't know how to use it, so both devices are on the same settings. 😂

[@rsximus]

@@racer247 100 percent facts. Dragy is the most accurate timing device on the market, identical to drag strip slips. It can show with and without rollout. It's amazing that a channel like TFLcar doesn't know that... unless they are sponsored by Solo.

[@racer247]

​​@rsximus facts, perfect name, who uses " solo " besides them. 😂

[@ribbit1964]

I heart said that was cool, my head says, "EV…Noooo!" I’m not a fan of EV’s but I think I’m starting to get it

[@juliusoh]

Ioniq 5n outperforms on track

[@popsandbangs8858]

Of course it is

[@zachconroy1443]

American Electric ⚡ muscle 💪

[@pindot787]

So Tesla model 3 is quicker, hella cheaper, has more range, could charge anywhere with NACS, also more practical with frunk? If I may add, tesla software and apps are miles ahead everyone else. sound system in M3P also by some account better than 5N. The fun factor in 5N is the fake engine amd fake gear change, and it actually made the car slower.

[@vc8160]

Spot on👍

[@jaymac4448]

In reality, you're comparing a model y competitor to model 3. I would hope it is quicker. Can't compare apples to apples yet so I get it.

[@4literv6]

The Hyundai i6 is 400-600# heavier and now less efficient than the model 3. So the new i6n coming next year likely still won't beat a m3p. It will also weigh at least 450-550# more and cost 10-20k more without dealer markups, have no tax credit and accounting for the additional fees taxes and interest=tesla USA made ftw!

[@jaymac4448]

@4literv6 hyundai built a plant in Georgia for this reason. Good try though.

[@CielMC]

If youre gonna compare the froot(so practicalities) then you have to also talk about the boot, all that size and weight is for something. Some may also prefer to have some degree of physical buttons and turn signals. Or a dash for that matter. No matter what, if you get the 5N, you get an SUV, while the M3P is a (compact? sedan? Im not good with sized, but smaller), which means less room inside. The practicalities are simply not comparable in that, if you have zero need for room and only drive yourself around, youre not gonna need an SUV, if you’re carrying the whole family with suitcases, I doubt youre gonna prefer the M3P. If you are talking pure price to performance though, the M3P still have brake and thermal issues on a track, so it’s not race ready ootb, so youre gonna have to do more upgrades to it(if you can fix things like battery thermals at all, I dont know). So the sticker price is misleading.

[@KP-xi4bj]

Tesla is on a whole different level. No current EV maker can match Tesla's combination of price/features/performance/charging infrastructure/software/full self driving.

[@HyperVanilo]

Despite all of those benefits, I still don't want to drive iPad on wheels

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@HyperVanilo Feel free to walk.

[@HyperVanilo]

@@KP-xi4bj Why walk when I have a scooter, also I'm not European

[@uptoolayte1]

​@HyperVanilo Computers control every modern car, why is the Tesla sooooooo much worse just because it runs on a battery?

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@HyperVanilo Scooter not efficient, e.g. too slow.

[@seymorefact4333]

🤩 the N for me! the 3 looks boring and small.

[@googlewolly]

Lol

[@CaliSteve169]

Yeah with the Hyundai you'll always be looking at the Tesla's rear end 😆

[@seymorefact4333]

@@CaliSteve169 True...BUT, the Ioniq 5 N interior/exterior is much nicer and the 3 ass is getting very old! N 0-60 in 2.5 secs...still AWESOME! Plus, on long distances trip the N charges faster...and the tesla will be arriving 24 hrs behind the N!

[@blakeogeris2494]

Nicer??? Have you been in the new model 3?? ​@@seymorefact4333

[@alstonmiller212]

Boring and small people will keep moving the goalposts. I get 8 compliments every week on how great it looks and it can fit so much in that top and bottom truck and frunk. Do not worry about what he believes about the car; it’s amazing when you actually drive it and use it every day. 😂

[@LearningFast]

Finally, someone tests it properly. Thank you for heating the battery and not putting it in track mode. Both drivers are big boys and well over 200 lbs. This was a good comparison. Dragy will match track times because tracks use rollout. Ioniq N is still a great car. Definitely the Ioniq 5 N is better on road courses. Highland Model 3 Performance is definitely quicker in a straight line though.

[@4literv6]

Quick does an i5n out lap the m3p around Laguna seca? And has the i5n stock run up pikes peak faster than a m3p? Hint the answer is NO to both!

[@Dqtube]

I don't know what setting you had for the 5N or if it's because of the surface, but the car is consistently in the 11.2-11.3 range for ¼ mile in the hands of others across the world. So you've lost 0.3 seconds somewhere in each run.

[@boost331]

Real life results. What more do you want?

[@Dqtube]

@@boost331 Did I want something more? I'm just surprised they were so out of the results of the others. They are the slowest ¼ mile with this car on dry conditions and this is especially strange because they are at a higher altitude. Even @CarExpertAus on a dusty runway has never been so slow in a performance setting.

[@Jeffro19]

@@Dqtube they are using v box. They should have used the dragy on the Ionic N like they did on the Tesla. The N would get 11.1 or 11.2 on the dragy. The Tesla got 10.9 I believe in the video on the dragy.

[@Jeffro19]

@@Dqtube they were using the crap v box. The Tesla driver was using the dragy which is much more accurate

[@ocoet3575]

Because it's fake The ioniq 5n is faster in all other test And it is significantly faster than the Tesla

[@Davidtheinfidel]

preheat the batteries guys..... The Telsa gets 10.8 all day totally stock.

[@uptoolayte1]

They did

[@rsximus]

@@uptoolayte1 correct they did but at 80 percent SOC, 10.9 is still pretty good. If that Tesla was above 90 percent SOC, it would have done 10.8.

[@Yubuzka3774]

Good race. But tbh, ioniq 5N is a direct competitor to the Model Y performance as they are both crossovers. The upcoming Ioniq 6N will be a true competitor for the Model 3 performance.

[@avis1978]

The 6 will be an easy 10.5 - 10.8 1/4 mile EV.

[@gildardo]

Now do a track day, I'll wait.

[@layne4376]

$20K should add some decent tires and brakes to the Tesla, eh? lol

[@boost331]

Oh boy. Another wannabe track driver Korean car lover.

[@Outcastiid]

​@@layne4376Then you'd be $10,000 over the Ioniq, bub.

[@hikikomori69]

Dont sit around waiting for KZbin creators to do things for you. Why don’t you do a track day? Oh because you’re too poor for either car? Lol

[@mcsike7264]

Drops some better brakes and tires and it will be fine unplugged performance is the go to

[@AllanPorter]

Good stuff, as always. Question: Is Alex still with TFL?

[@TFLcar]

Yes

[@herawynn1397]

Not to sound like a Tesla hater, but this is car vs SUV. Not direct competitors

[@steinwaymodelb]

It's a hatchback... about as much of an SUV as a VW Golf.

[@herawynn1397]

​@@steinwaymodelb Ioniq 5 is classified as an SUV, at least in North America. I agree with you, but it IS an SUV

[@jghall00]

The Ioniq 6 would be the competing vehicle but the N trim isn't out yet. Is the Model Y refresh out?

[@T3chAndThings]

@@jghall00 model y refresh should be out next year

[@sungbaek3526]

​@steinwaymodelb it looks like a hatchback, but its bigger than it looks. Definitely a cuv/suv

[@boost331]

Now imagine this on the road trying to do a little stoplight to stoplight run. (Yeah yeah shame on me right). In the N you just need to ask the other car to hold on for a minute while you push 17 buttons, flip screens, change modes, and enter the 1980s nintendo cheat code before you launce. Or you could be in ANY other normal vehicle and just hit the gas.

[@avis1978]

No you don't. You can just push the N button +NGB and off you go.

[@cabal3747]

​@@avis1978True, and you can also program any of the custom N modes that you create to pop up with a push off a button. You can also set one of the N buttons to activate launch control, if you wish. Pressing one button for M mode and then the other for launch control takes a fraction of a second.

[@avis1978]

@@cabal3747 we are dealing here with people that has no clue 😄

[@vc8160]

Spot on! Hyundai is all Korean gimmicks! Hyundai fan boys really do exist!

[@cabal3747]

@@avis1978 So, based on what other people keep erroneously insisting about needing to use NGB with Launch Control when you really can't, I played around this weekend, and now I'm convinced that half the review channels doing launches don't even really have it in Launch Control. It's a two-step process, and just because you've cleared the first half doesn't mean you've successfully engaged it. So it's possible that they really are getting the NGB button to work, but the fact that it does means that Launch Control isn't really active. When you press the "activate" button, that just makes it ready, not active. A small LC logo appears at the top of the screen. But then once you press the brake to the floor and then the accelerator, a big box pops up telling you it's active and to let off the brake to launch. When that box pops up, NGB does nothing. I figured out that you CAN have Launch Control active, but it still won't engage when you press the brake and the accelerator. That's likely because one of the settings doesn't comply. And if that's the case, it's possible that the NGB button might work -- although I still think that it won't. Like the Launch Control, just because you press the NGB button doesn't necessarily mean that NGB is engaged. It's only active if the countdown timer pops up. I figured that out because I have two custom N modes, one identical to the standard one but with the sound active, and the other identical to that except that the suspension and the ESC are turned down to normal (I use that for rough roads and freeways). I can successfully press the "activate" button for the Launch Control in either mode and the LC logo pops up, but since the Launch Control requires ESC to be set to Sport or Off, if I'm in my second custom mode, pressing the brake and the accelerator won't activate it. But if I switch to my first custom mode, it works fine. So I'm willing to bet that half the channels that think that they're using Launch Control really aren't. That would partly account for the discrepancies in the launch times.

[@gonzorvf]

People miss the point on the Tesla. Even if you track your car, that’s 1% of your car usage - if not less. The Tesla is the better option for 99.9% of folks out there spending 50 grand in a car, better interior, better options, Autopilot or FSD for $99/mo, amazing app with ton of features, keyless, incredible audio system, best user interface there is, cameras everywhere, dog mode, camping mode, safest car on the road, supercharger integration, road trip planner, etc so many features that you will actually use every day. This is better in every measure using it as a regular car on a daily basis plus you’ll smoke anything on those 10-15 seconds you dare to “race” anyone on public roads. It is cheaper, quicker, well built and very solid feel, maintenance free, just tire rotation and go. Oh and the fact that there are millions on the road actually makes your insurance cheap, if you get in an accident there are a million parts everywhere, etc, its just a better option all around.

[@Peaches-N-Mango]

I think they should have had Tommy in this one; the Hyundai has A LOT of settings to get the most of it, so much more than just launch control and the N button..

[@chemjam92]

I don't want any ev yet. The Hyundai is just cooler with the styling and shifting

[@YuenanCao]

Childish

[@aussie2uGA]

“Shifting”. Amazing what fake sounds will do.

[@LYG4F]

These cars should be neck a neck at least the I5N is making 11.2/11.1 on a lot of other channels

[@CaliSteve169]

The Hyundai is an elephant.

[@LYG4F]

@CaliSteve169 but it also has 130 more HP. I'm not making this up. Go watch other videos. The I5N is capable of more

[@CaliSteve169]

@@LYG4F power doesn't help you at this weight. That's why a 4 banger fwd Civic beats it at Nurburgring. This Hyundai won't be a good track car if you put a jet engine on it. It gets a lot of attention on KZbin, but in reality nobody buys it.

[@LYG4F]

@CaliSteve169 we are talking about straight line performance not a track this is a drag race and 11.1 on 1/4 is always 11.1 no matter if you're a truck or a civic

[@CaliSteve169]

@@LYG4F yes and thr Hyundai loses to a way cheaper and less powerful Tesla. No wonder nobody buys them.

[@miguelcoka]

I have the 24 M3P absolutely love it. So much power at an amazing price!!

[@Outcastiid]

The Tesla is a great commuter, but too souless. I greatly prefer the Ioniq 5 N for fun dynamics.

[@guru2899]

You're right, my '24 M3P has no soul....but it's got balls.

[@BioniqBob]

Tesla is faster on the straight. Maybe because so much weight shook loose and fell off. Try 2 laps at the track.

[@Teejaay1]

No rolling race? Why?

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Too bad these guys only know how to drive in a straight line. 5N was specifically developed for the track and twisty roads. Tesla can’t compete there.

[@rsximus]

While I agree, the 5N is superior in braking and heat management for track, the reality is who really takes these electric cars to the track? I mean a couple sessions and you're done, you gotta find a place to charge, etc. Also that 4900 pound 5N which weighs more than a Ford Explorer will just tear up tires like nobody's business. 99 percent of owners who buy these cars will explore their acceleration potential more than their track potential and in that category the new Tesla Model 3P is king.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@rsximus Enthusiasts like me take it to the track. Hyundai knows they’re not going to sell many 5Ns but it’s a halo EV for them. Tesla fan boys are all about straight line speed. And tesla doesn’t make track capable factory EVs despite its Performance designation.

[@rsximus]

@@JohnLee-db9zt but why track an EV? The whole point of tracking your vehicle is to improve your lap times after each session, unlike a gas car each lap the SOC will decrease leading to slower times each session. Your skill might improve but your lap times won’t reflect it, you’ll also eat through tires like crazy trying to hustle 5000 pounds around a track and you’ll be lucky to get a few good laps before you’ll need to recharge. In a gas car your times will stay consistent and even improve as you shed extra weight from consuming the fuel in your tank.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@rsximus Simple. It’s fun.

[@skip741x3]

suggestion: swap drivers at least once to take into account different reaction times....let the other guy put the draggy in ur can bro, whats the harm in seeing what it says.?

love these EV'a..both on my wish list

[@ericn3221]

You failed to mention the tax credits on the M3P which makes it a minimum of $20k less than the 5N. In Colorado it was probably $25k cheaper. Take $12k of that and put a set of carbons on the front and it will take the 5N on a road course too. Lastly, I sat in a 5N and although I loved the seats the rest of the interior felt really cheap compared to the new M3P.

[@HY13tech]

Those US model 3s are no joke. Wish we had them in Europe too 🫤

[@CPMUNSEY]

Take them to a track now and watch the Ioniq 5 Namyang run circles around the Tesla. Plus it’s much more fun to drive and nowhere near as boring.

[@FerrisBuellerYT]

True but almost no one is buying either car to be a track day vehicle. They are living mundane lives going to work and the store, stop light to stop light.

[@Captndarty]

@@FerrisBuellerYT just like no one is buying cars for drag racing or 0 to 60. Hyundai still wins the day-to-day fun factor.

[@mcunha81]

Lol,doubtful ,but I'd love to see it, I'm genuinely shocked that the performance son drag races with 130 hp less then the N. 😮

[@mcunha81]

​@@Captndartybecause it makes fake noises 😂😂🤡generation

[@coflyer2949]

@@CaptndartyHyundai’s reliability is awful. I own a HKG car and would much rather buy the Tesla. Customer experience at a Hyundai dealership really depends on the dealership.

[@colonelcactus118]

My grandpa has the Ioniq N and got it over 200 miles and hour

[@YuenanCao]

Does Hyundai / KIA use NACS yet? And if not, why not? Also, when will they license FSD from Tesla?

[@edsgarage001]

It's coming within the next few months.

[@Snerdles]

The 2025 Ioniq 5 (not N) are, and their other models should be soon too. Hyundai has been the first major car manufacturer to ditch CCS, but everyone else will move in the next couple models years too. CCS is dead now.

[@jaymac4448]

CCS will not be dead simply because tesla chargers are slow.

[@Snerdles]

@@jaymac4448 CCS will be dead because no cars will support it, just like ChaDeMo now. Everyone who bought into the dead end will have to use adapters.

[@jaymac4448]

@Snerdles there were only 5 cars in the history of chademo to use it in the USA. There are so many vehicles already using CCS and still is the worldwide standard. I'm assuming this switch to the NACS is temporary mainly because tesla has decided to limit the charging experience for non tesla.

[@jimlamparty3502]

Need more range.....350-375 highway 75mph or 15 min or less 10-90 charging and 300 ish 75mph highway range

[@mosesmiles6975]

Model 3 performance all day, looks better too, don't care for fake car noises

[@T3chAndThings]

What battery version of the model 3 is this? Those times are kind of high for the performance. They usually hit 10.9 or 11’s.

[@TFLcar]

Did you read the headline of this video? Please google roll out vs no roll out.

[@TFLcar]

Did you read the headline of this video. Please google roll out vs no roll out.

[@T3chAndThings]

@@TFLcarsorry, I thought headline means title and the title doesn’t state that….

[@G82Watts]

No one except for tesla cult fans going downhill get those times and or removing weight. Every independent test gets 11.0-11.1 for model 3 .. never in the 10s

[@T3chAndThings]

@@G82Watts cult fans? I guess every person that drives non teslas aka gas cars that strip their cars are also cult fans of their brands then?

[@layne4376]

125 mph in the quarter. Wow. That Tesla costs the same as a loaded BMW 330 and offers M3 acceleration.

[@G82Watts]

Bmw m3 xdrive 0-60 2.8sec and 11.0 quarter mile. Independently tested. Plus has a 7s 60-130 while the model 3 has a 9s 60-130.. PLUS it doesn't need preconditioning and high state of charge.. PLUS it doesn't over heat during a hill pass or on track after a minute of pushing it. And has a higher top speed. So better in every category

[@Ds-pw7gd]

@@G82Wattstell me without telling me you’ve never owned a M3😂

[@layne4376]

@@G82Watts lol. Comparing the previous gen 460 hp car to the M3 Comp is a dangerous slope. The 510 hp version (yet to be tested by C&D as this is your source of specs) is already running the quarter 1t 125 mph so 1 mph FASTER than the M3 Comp. It is also claiming 10.9 second quarter mile time so when it is finally tested, I think you will eat those words. Regardless, as I CORRECTLY stated. BMW 330 pricing for M3 performance.

[@Ds-pw7gd]

@@layne4376still😢 hahaha

[@layne4376]

@@Ds-pw7gd I like the M3 Comp (I drive an M340) but one can't deny the performance v.s. price of this Tesla.

[@frankcastle1578]

That Tesla is unreal, time to trade in the old m340 lol

[@G82Watts]

Can't afford a new m3 or m4 huh? Have to go tesla.. 😢😂😂

[@Ds-pw7gd]

@@G82Wattssays the bus rider

[@uptoolayte1]

I'd keep your B58 it's an awesome car!

[@frankcastle1578]

@@G82Wattsand I bet you can’t even afford an m340 😢😂😂

[@aussie2uGA]

Traded the M3 for the Model 3 and have never looked back. The BMW was too fragile, you never wanted to drive above 9/10ths because of resulting sounds, smells, lumpy idle, vanos ticking….

[@perezdr1]

I feel bad for real Ioniq5n owners who purchase the car to track it-get a real track car (HINT: Not an EV). The same applies to the Tesla, by the way. This is why the Tesla is just better. It is cost-effective and will destroy 99% of cars doing what most people do more: a quick drag race coming back from work. Many of you have the wrong expectations about these vehicles.

[@fantomtuba]

Doug Demuro said it best. "Model 3 is a great appliance." Otherwise we'll never get a stripped $25,000 model, and we'll never get a $60,000 german feeling actual luxury model.

[@uptoolayte1]

Yeah totally, I can't count the number of times I sat in my dryer, thinking it was my car! HAHA, EV's are SO much more like refrigerators and microwaves and blenders than they are like cars, right? What a brilliant easy copy/pasteable analogy that is 100% spot on! I even tried microwaving my food in the frunk of my Tesla and it's not even in the kitchen, boy oh boy what a clever thing to say, appliance! Good old Doug sure knows how to give everyone baseless ammo to throw in comment sections so people don't have to think for themselves.

[@fantomtuba]

@@uptoolayte1 You had fun with that one.

[@markgriffiths409]

The European model 3 performance has less power, whereas the N has the same…

[@downhillskier7]

Roman has to hold down the NGB button during the drag race

[@NomenClature-o8s]

I’d still rather have the BMW. 😂

[@vc8160]

Bahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 bmw fan boys still like watching EV drag races!

[@J-Murph412]

10sec 1/4mi at a mile above sea level is absolutely bonkers 👀

[@runany1]

These cars go faster the higher they are opposite of ICE cars.

[@egfloor238]

Next time do a track run. Also do a brake test. 🤓

[@MichaelPanzer]

Just flooring it without using the brake makes it slower. I guess with the right launch mode in grip high (boost is active there anyway) it could've gone differently. 11.6 is way slower than the 11.1 others have done

[@volvo09]

This is also on a regular road surface. Both vehicles will be faster on a drag strip.

[@smithapple5265]

운전자가 동네 할아버지라서 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 1초 차이가 생기면 크게 벌어짐

[@coenmoon-id6rm]

Just bought y and regretting every bit..

[@aussie2uGA]

Yeah the model 3 is much lighter.

[@MR.X-C]

Mustang Mach E GT vs Tesla next!!!!!

[@paekshinaa]

Well, most wealthy Koreans buy Tesla stocks, not Hyundai stocks, I wonder why 🤔

[@korea055]

한국 좌파 정치인들 및 좌파 추종자들이 주가 하락에 투자하라고 하는 나라입니다 금융 투자 세금을 금액에 따라 추징하는데 이걸 모든 거래에 시행 하려고 합니다 개미 투자자는 22%의 세금 뿐 아니라 원천 징수로 기회 비용을 잃어 버리게 됩니다 1년에 한번 세금 정산이 아니라 거래마다 징수

[@증걸대라쫌]

Write down Hyundai… Americans only need acceleration pedal. They don’t need brake pedal or even steering wheel…

[@Kahless00]

Insane mode is fitting for the leon mobile. Id take the ioniq 5. So much more room. I can barely fit into the back seat on my friends m3p and im only 5'10 with a 31" inseam. Ioniq has tons of room. Teslas claimed ramge doesnt matter at all since they use loopholes in the rules to advertise higher numbers. You also say your third run was slowing down because it was heating up. Each run was quicker and faster than the first. All three runs were within .05. during the run you said 11.69 for the first run then 11.80 at the end of the video.

[@layne4376]

The Hyundai will break much sooner if its storied history is any indication. 125 mph in the quarter and growing as time goes on, the Tesla is simply faster in the real world. As far as looks, the Hyundai looks like a bread van. I guess if that is your thing....

[@rexmaster1004]

You will take Ioniq 5 N to sit in the back? I enjoy every bit of driving M3P and it rocks😊

[@avis1978]

​@@rexmaster1004no he will take it if he has a family of 4-5, and if he likes to sit higher and have better vision outside. Or just if he likes to take his sport suv\hatchback EV to the race track and not worries for the brakes over heating after 1 lap 🤭🤭. Or just maybe be able to go to Lowe's and buy a new washing machine and be able to fit it in the back of his ioniq 5 N. Try that in your m3p 😂.

[@rexmaster1004]

@@avis1978 I did not get M3P for the track and have an ICE car for the family and heavy lifting. Who hauls a washing machine? There is delivery service for that!!!!!

[@avis1978]

@@rexmaster1004 so you admit that the ioniq 5 N can do more, and is more practical then the m3p sedan. So I raised my case.

[@jimlamparty3502]

Chevy Silverado/Sierra EV twins 400 plus highway fits many better. TESLA we need more range!!!!

[@googlewolly]

Lol The Hyundai fanboys seem to be really letting this video upset them. They're both great cars; the Model 3 just has better acceleration and is cheaper.

[@notvaporlocked5479]

3 words for the Ionic 5 comp-li-cated.

[@NlghtShifter]

Yeah i agree... most people who buy EV like the minimalist concept and esp. not the fake sounds either. Tesla M3P can do 10's stock and the I5N has yet to happen.

[@martinkim5411]

Run track instead of same drag race every time

[@Jeffro19]

Wow to go Tesla. Been waiting for this video. Just as I thought. 😊

[@ktjs2000]

drag race is pointless. ioniq5n simply gonna destroy m3p on track easily not even close. it already dumpstered s plaid in pikes peak anyway

[@uptoolayte1]

Drag race is what 99% of owners will do.

[@sidthiru1509]

you talking like 99% of buyers will track the 5n. Hell no. Even most supercar owners do not track their car, these are practical road cars and the model 3 is cheaper by a lot, has better tech, much more range and faster in the scenario that people are most likely to use these kinds of cars in.

[@ktjs2000]

@@uptoolayte1 this car is basically made for fun driving experience not just straight line 4 sec bs

[@uptoolayte1]

​@ktjs2000 Most drivers will be on the streets with the occasional twisties. That straight line performance is the most frequent performance aspect you can enjoy. Sure the ioniq might be more competent handling wise but not until you're 8/10 which most people will not do. I think the Tesla can do what the Ionic can do for 99% of what owners actually do more frequently. So while the Ioniq might be the more dynamic driving experience, most of the time you won't get to that point on the street. For 20k more, it's just not worth it to me.

[@KTMcaptain]

Tesla handles much better, if you let go of the steering wheel it’ll literally continue driving for you. Jokes aside who cares about tracking an EV? But accelerating onto and on the freeway is what everyone cares about. Both cars do 99% of what people want. Tesla has way better tech and the N is way more of a child’s car with gimmicks. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have steering wheel buttons and noises, but a comfortable ride that’s less fatiguing cause the car handles everything autonomously and effortlessly is far more important.

[@ThinkingAhead2]

Switch drivers between races

[@BlueElectricityTesla]

N stands for Nasty looking

[@Lemming1970]

I'd still have the N. Tesla is to much of a reps car for me. IT's the BMW 3 series replacement.

[@FortyoneZero]

5N is already plenty fast it's pointless to go even faster, i think, lol

[@320wrx]

Hyundai is an enjoyable car, Tesla is a smooth vehicle

[@kabelwasalim6305]

Matt from carwow is a better driver,he beat that model3 performance with same car(ioniq 5N)

[@avis1978]

The m3p in Europe has only 460hp. Only in the us they get 510hp. Even here in 🇨🇦 its 460hp.

[@vc8160]

Research different battery types in the USA before smashing AWAY ON YOUR KEYBOARD!

[@TheOutdoorBeerReview]

1 of my clients is dumping his Model 3 Performance after not even 2 years... paid $59,000 and Tesla offered him like 29,000 on trade with only 22k miles. He said he cannot wait to dump that pile of 💩 for good, way too many QC problems you wouldnt expect in a 25k Corolla let alone some 60k sedan

[@youngblood23rb]

Shouldnt this be on TFL EV?

[@TFLcar]

Yes, but we have too many EV videos so we published it here.

[@Redhawk24]

Are EVs not cars…

[@youngblood23rb]

Cant argue with that ​@@TFLcar

[@Bigs73]

I think Roman is not using the NGB properly. He should be pressing it sometime after he has launched for that 10 sec boost. No?

[@ericantonacci13]

Great video… throw the solo in the trash so many test showing how off they are. Stick with the dragy.

[@steveam29]

Tesla all the way for me

[@mediocreman2]

6:44 Tesla decreases their prices more than they increase them.

[@aussie2uGA]

That should be a good thing for new shoppers.

[@erikhanes9491]

Please , take it around a track now lol. N is not about drag racing

[@TFLcar]

You’re right, the N is about handling.

[@Jeffro19]

Still would lose to the Tesla. 😊

[@avis1978]

​@@Jeffro19😂😂😂. The brakes on the tesla will heat up after 1/2 a lap 🤭🤭🤭

[@uptoolayte1]

@@Jeffro19 You would need a big brake upgrade for the tesla and it would still have battery regulation issues depending on the track. the N is much more suited for the track.

[@khanyin3372]

That is interesting huh it sound like a real engine

[@erich1158]

Tesla is a beast

[@VortexVibe634]

Love the music choice for racing 🔥

[@turkishhusla]

The Yesla is better in everyway

[@mc.9-]

God I hate fake engine/exhaust sounds

[@khanyin3372]

I'm wondering 😂 how do the Korean car 🚗 named after Nuremberg race track 😁.

[@sisbroforever2027]

Tesla smoking it all day...

[@uptoolayte1]

I wouldn't call being barely faster "smoking it"

[@Davan514]

Insane mode or insane musk…

[@danieldagenais7945]

So you get rev sound and a bit more space but less range for 13000$ more?! Nice 😬

[@uptoolayte1]

In the US counting the Teslas tax discount, it's a 20k difference. My Model 3 performance was 47.5k.

[@MD-zb9ev]

The Tesla is a better deal with the tax incentives. Why would anyone spend so much money on a Hyundai? I don't care that it beats a model 3 on the Nurburgring, It's uglier and still a Hyundai.

[@G82Watts]

Nice to see yet another independent test showing the model 3 runs 11s and not 10s like some tesla cult fans claim by going purposely downhill and or removing weight. Still quick but not the 10s car they are potraying

[@Ds-pw7gd]

Mine has done a 10.7 @126 at the track. Tons of verifiable results online and even videos. Keep😢

[@G82Watts]

@@Ds-pw7gd 10.7 ? Stock? LMFAO. Ok buddy. I hope u know not a soul believes u.

[@Ds-pw7gd]

@@G82Watts😢magazine racer

[@guru2899]

Dude you should get a life and leave your parents' basement once in a while. I did 10.88s per Racebox Mini. By the way since you think you're smart....you think you'd see other EVs around if Tesla didn't exist? And remember, your GED is not the highest achievement you can attain in academics.

[@ericharris5299]

You have to hold that button to get the 40 extra horsepower not just push it

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for the heads up

[@sungbaek3526]

nah, you dont have to hold it, you just push it. Plus it does nothing if launch control is used too

[@planesandbikes7353]

The Hyundai has nice style and the hatchback config is nicer to live with. But the Ioniq5 is far too heavy to be taken seriously as a performance car. Tesla delivers a more tossable car at 800lbs lighter than the N. That is giant amount of weight difference! So what if they put on stiff suspension and better brakes the car weighs 20% more negating all of that. I hate the fake engine noises btw. Tesla should make the 3 a hatchback like so many lightweight japanese cars were in the 80s.

[@Outcastiid]

It doesn't negate anything when everybody who has tracked both says the Model 3 Performance is a shit track car.

[@itgoesfast2722]

Hey Hyundai if you are going to simulate engine sounds and shifts please simulate the screaming sound of the mighty V10 formula 1 engines when you put the car in track mode… now that would be fun (hint to Tesla)

[@TFLcar]

That's a great idea.

[@itgoesfast2722]

@@TFLcar thank you !

[@TopViewFar]

I pick Tesla anyday