A Warning from the Past: The Malaise Era

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rainmanraysrep...
Tell me what you think. Are we Repeating this malaise era? The build quality of vehicles and mandates for emissions sounds and looks exactly like bike then.

[@RainmanRaysRepairs]

I think everything you said is spot on! Basically the EPA is to blame for listening to the lobbyists rather than implementing real life solutions to pollution and emissions concerns. For example, we can’t have 1500lb Japanese K trucks but 6500lb suvs get a tax incentive. We have to have engine killing EGR and Exhaust filters 🙄 but the big three can export the SAME vehicles to countries that HATE us that have ZERO emissions equipment installed. “Rules for thé but not for me” At the same time, we’re concerned with smog in CA, so we just outsource our pollution to China (who happens to be one of the worlds top polluters) so they can chooch out 10x the chemicals into the air where the jet stream carries it straight back to CA! Common Sense is no longer common.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Well said. It's all backwards. And for one to have common sense they must first have sense. Like you said. It's not common.

[@nysucks4508]

Ray this is exactly what I've been saying about other countries with zero emission regulations We also send tons of diesel to Europe that's better quality and cheaper than what they sell here

[@nysucks4508]

I think this is definitely the case BFT My 22 6.7 I absolutely love but feel I should of just kept my 16 RAM

[@RainmanRaysRepairs]

@@nysucks4508 Facts! In almost like the US is at a deliberate disadvantage

[@BeardedFordTech]

@nysucks4508 I went down this rabbit hole all night just digging. This video just barely scrapes the surface.

[@ValentineToybox]

Rainman Ray sent me

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@ValentineToybox 💯💯 thank you

[@gregm6801]

Same !

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@gregm6801 much appreciated 👏

[@matthewellisor5835]

And me. Likely a lot more.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@matthewellisor5835 .uch appreciated. Thank you for coming by.

[@TXCherokee]

Car manufacturers have to meet CAFE standards. If they build 1 HP Mustang must built 20 high efficiency vehicles

[@defendtheusa]

Totally agree and it’s about to get much worse. All good points.

[@BeardedFordTech]

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[@harveypaxton1232]

My father who designed chemical plants and refineries used to say, “The environmentalists will cause us to starve to death in a clean environment “

[@BeardedFordTech]

Thay statement itself is very powerful. 😲

[@susanfender307]

You can have a clean chemical plant and refinery, just keep it properly run and not as cheap as possible. It's the C-Suite making the decisions that lead to events like Bhopal. I understand the need to have chemicals and refineries, but I absolutely do believe that trying to cheap out is what causes 99% of the damage. It is possible to be a practical environmentalist. Hell, designing a wetland to disperse treated effluent safely has created a nature park that draws people to observe birds, gators, bison, horses, and other Florida critters. It's not either or, you CAN have both sensible environmental policy and profit

[@hopingforthebest1.9]

It's a problem with more than just cars too, it used to be pretty common for a HD diesel engine to last for 1,000,000 miles before an in-frame if taken care of - now you'd be lucky to get half that So the engines run cleaner, but their lifespan is significantly shorter. People don't realize how much energy goes into producing all those DPFs and sensors, let alone an entire 13+ liter engine

[@BeardedFordTech]

Exactly!!!!

[@omardevonlittle3817]

There was a Volvo diesel from the 80s or 90s that was in a Mexican transport bus that did 3.5 million miles... Volvo took it back and ran it WOT for a year... it still works and is in their museum

[@ken2tou]

Another Rainman Ray follower here. 👍🏼🇺🇸

[@BeardedFordTech]

Much appreciated 👏 thank you.

[@hunterchiasson4832]

Rainman ray has sent me here

[@BeardedFordTech]

@hunterchiasson4832 thank you for coming over! Much appreciated.

[@Ninersfanatic79]

Rainman Ray's army in the house. I absolutely agree with everything you said a d it's ridiculous. These new vehicles cost too much for very little in return in my opinion. Yes, some of the vehicles and options are very nice but I have also noticed that with this dilemma that people like me look for hidden gems from the past but unfortunately many ppl act like their old truck or car was made from gold and are asking ridiculous prices. An example, while I was financially struggling between 2002/2003-2008 raising a daughter while I was very young and starting a family, I was saving by driving several different 80-96 F-150's. I was able to grab them from as cheap as $500-$1800 was the most I spent on the 3 I bought. Now, for that same vehicle in approximately the same condition or maybe worse ppl are asking $2,500-$5 G. I find that crazy. I also find that this new vehicles are meant to be disposed of after 6-10 yrs which is in effect causing more damage to the environment with the waste/disposal of this junk. Many ppl who don't know much about vehicles just except this as it is n buy another new piece of junk. It's really sad that's where we are at nowadays. Sorry for the long rant. Good luck with the channel, u got a new sub here.

[@BeardedFordTech]

No need for apologies. I like reading the long ones. And you nailed it. You had priorities back then. And old truck like that for a couple hundred bucks we're everywhere like you said. Even I came across a few. Then prices of everything increase. (I think you know where I'm going with this) everyone is out to make a dollar but they do it all wrong. It's a cash grab. And now with the prices of new vehicles, it's crazy. So many things that go wrong. Outsourced parts that are cheap and marked up 1200 percent. Only to last 5 years. 10 if your lucky. They say it's due to price increases of raw materials. In reality it's due to price increases of the people who want more money. Green is a real thing while everyone else suffers. Thanks for the sub friend!

[@PanManLou]

@RainmanRaysRepairs suggested I check out this video. I now know only about select few (2 hand count) of people who are making so much sense. I just hope more people “get it” and start doing something about. So many things are awry right now. Good folks speak up, I am!

[@BeardedFordTech]

Yes if people would speak up we could make a big difference

[@onehappyemo]

I think it’s planned obsolescence so you have to bring it back for repairs. When you have 20-50 modules on a vehicle you are going to have faults. Like dodge with the 3.6 with roller followers it’s been a big problem since 2011 or ford with the 3.5 cam phasers these should not be problems for 10 plus years!

[@BeardedFordTech]

@onehappyemo cam phaser was an issues beginning in 2020 on the 3.5. But yes I can see that. It's all part of emissions. The VVT is for fuel efficiency

[@donnyhudgins1917]

Definitely believe that if the restrictions were lifted and the use of proven electronic controls were implemented, the cost of vehicles could be greatly decreased, the life of a vehicle could be exponentially increased, and the overall performance of the vehicles could be amazing. Too much government is never a good thing.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@donnyhudgins1917 facts

[@Yederdoo]

Aircraft mechanic here, I see similar nonsense with manufacturers making aircraft consistently more difficult to work on while the FAA has a metric fuck ton of federal regulatory oversight. Im glad you put this video up, i asked an older and very wise mechanic i work with about his thoughts on the climate change BS. He explained to me this happened decades ago, and again prior to that. He seemed to think that history is repeating itself but in faster frequencies...

[@BeardedFordTech]

I have a aircraft mechanic friend. He said the same thing!!

[@matthewmartin7639]

I have been an A&P for 5 years. Not even 30 yet. Next Friday is my last day. I am absolutely FED UP with the FAA and all the oversight. I get it, it's airplanes. Not a car. But good GOD. It is so bad. I'm getting out of the industry before it becomes a cess pool of government beurocacy that will get somebody killed one day. "Oh why did that plane crash?" "Well in an effort to confirm to the updated FAR's we had to install scrubbers on all the planes to filter out the cow farts rising up from the farms they fly over. And they failed."

[@donnyhudgins1917]

It's in every industry. I work for the federal government as an engine dyno operator. It would blow your mind at some of the things we see everyday.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@donnyhudgins1917 😲😲 I need to talk to you sir. Email me

[@Robert-S-]

I don't have an issue with the intent of the regulations, it's the implementation that is the problem. I own 3 different generations of diesel powered vehicles. One is just EGR/Catalytic, the middle one is DPF/EGR/Catalytic and the newest is DEF/DPF/EGR/Catalytic. The EGR system is the most half-assed system that has ever been implemented, it's likely unnecessary with the other components and there is NO excuse for a DPF equipped vehicle to source EGR from the prefiltered exhaust. EGR on a diesel is just dumb. EGR on a gas engine can be more useful for maintaining the desired AFR but diesels don't really care about AFR so long as there is enough air for complete combustion. These emissions systems are all highly convoluted and proprietary and servicing and maintaining them is difficult and costly. In larger trucks the DPF filters are cartridges similar to air filter elements, they can be swapped relatively easily when they reach a point of needing to be serviced, and they can usually be cleaned and restored to like new condition to be reused. I am unaware of this setup on any light duty or passenger oriented vehicle. Most DPF systems on light duty vehicles are welded into a bundle with other emissions systems, such that when one fails or needs to be serviced you have to replace everything. These required devices should not be allowed to be designed in such a manner that makes them prohibitively expensive to maintain/service. They should be implemented in a way similar to air / oil / fuel filters are. A well maintained vehicle will always be more efficient and less polluting that one that ends up getting deleted or just driven until it dies because the cost of repairs exceeds the alternatives.

[@BeardedFordTech]

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[@egroom53]

DEI, Me2 and ESG is why durable goods are suffering.

[@BeardedFordTech]

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[@michaelabbott511]

I had a buddy who had a beard like that, and got cough in the fanbelt,😮after 140 stitches across his face, he doesn't have it anymore, be careful.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@michaelabbott511 man that's one of the first thing I look at. .ake sure I'm far enough away. Tuck it in my shirt if I need to

[@kevinyancey958]

It's not the Clean Air Act, but the investors, board members, trustees, shareholders, and whatnot, that want to reduce costs to be competitive, while maximizing profits. Greed is quality's biggest foe. I worked for Chrysler in the early 2000's. In the morning meetings with production supervisors, they discuss quality issues. If the issue was with vehicles with over 70k miles on them, they were ignored, since they were out of warranty. They design cars to make it through the warranty period with as little problems as possible. After that, they expect you to replace the vehicle. In fact, at the time, they knew that their target group were trading in their vehicles on average every two years. Secondary warranties don't cover as much of the vehicle, either. BTW, recalls have been an issue for generations. It's only been in the last decade or so that the government agencies have really cracked down on the manufacturers. Remember, GM built the 700R4 for decades with an inherent flaw and sold cars for 15 years with bad ignition switches. Chrysler sold front wheel drive vehicles for over 20 years with a know transmission issue. Hyundai sold millions of 1.5L I4s that self destructed over a decade before addressing the issue, plus they had to provide a 100k mile power train warranty on all new vehicles. The malaise era was a time when the US was getting their ass handed to them by the Japanese. LBJ tried to help with the chicken tax by keeping out the importation of trucks. That worked for a short time until those companies brought their manufacturing to the US. VW made the Caddy in PA in 1980. Then came the Japanese. Ford imported the little Transit van, but to avoid the chicken tax, with full interiors and seats. They were removed and shipped back across the pond and put in the next batch.

[@BeardedFordTech]

I wasn't saying it was the clean air act. But everything you mentioned. I was just mentioning the clean air act

[@sevenofzach]

​@@BeardedFordTechyeah you completely skipped the whole enshittification of everything even other than cats to lower costs and raise short term profits because line has to go up 🤔 it's the most obvious part of the answer to why

[@Ghauster]

Actually Ford destroys the interior components because shipping them back is a more expensive option.

[@TNW1337]

the Clean Air Act is a huge part of the problem.

[@philliplopez8745]

The real tragedy is the late 40s early 50s ,wall street insisted that the bean counters would rule , and the engineer would starve . In reality the American automotive industry has always fed us crap . When I was young , you were lucky if you saw 100,000 miles on a engine , what is average now .

[@BeardedFordTech]

I've seen miles go further on engines. I have engines at work with 300k 400k. One with 653k.

[@bobmartin4942]

​@BeardedFordTech but were any of them made in the 50s or 60s? Engine time between rebuilds had substantially increased since the 1970s.

[@sw7366]

​@bobmartin4942 Better metals, better oils now. Rebuild an old engine with modern parts and it will last longer. Also, the old standard was 3,000 rpm at 70 mph. Today, maybe 1,800 rpm at 70 mph. You're comparing apples and oranges.

[@CPsGarage]

We restarted the era in 04 with the 6.0 and it's progressively got worse and worse.

[@BeardedFordTech]

So what your saying is. Since 2020ish. It's gotten worse and worse.

[@Robert-S-]

​​​@@BeardedFordTech2004, the best thing you can do for a 6.0 Powerstroke is modify the EGR cooler setup, it's a ticking time bomb that will try to kill the engine in the factory configuration.

[@rustyrobinson8027]

In the early 80's I always wondered why America car companies were moving manufacturing over seas taking away America jobs ☹️🇺🇸

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@rustyrobinson8027 saddening g

[@xeutoniumnyborg1192]

I do agree with the comment that we are now in a second malaise era. I disagree with the Wikipedia article saying the Malaise era ended in 1985. All the car manufacturers, but especially GM and Chrysler were still putting out some real dog squeeze after 1985. From the car lines I worked, the Fiero, the 1988-1990 LeMans, and the Eagle car line. For this old tech, the Malaise era really ended in the early 1990s. By that time, manufacturers had really begun to fine tune engine management systems and had begun to improve other vehicle systems. IMO, I think the second malaise era is a combination of multiple factors. First, a turnover in the automotive factory workforce. The 2020 pandemic made a lot of older workers strongly consider or in many cases, opting to retire. These older workers took a lot of what is called "tribal knowledge" with them (and sadly, some of them took it to the grave). The second issue is all the technology being shoved into newer cars. I'm sorry, but I think a 12 inch driver information center is too much. And we all remember what that great Starfleet engineer Montgomery Scott told us: "The more you complicate the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Fortunately, I dont think were going to end up with sad sack vehicles like the 1975 Corvette, whose standard 350 came with a whopping 165 HP.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@xeutoniumnyborg1192 I didn't say 1985. All sites I looked at all said it's believes to have ended in 1983 or 84. Not just wiki Pedia. I agree with all the combinations of things as well. All by design. Ahhh the fiero. My cousin had one of those. Good times

[@GuretoSefirosu]

I feel like these can last longer. You know mine personally. Seven years old, and aside from that odd P0170 that randomly shows up, it runs fine, barring the one day it shut off for no apparent reason then ran like a sewing machine ever since. The EPA crap is the only mess on my truck I believe is poorly designed. I mean, remove the EGR, DPF, and SCR and the engine makes more power and gets better mileage. No premature failure either. It just hit me. The CP4. Okay, I agree. There ARE some bad things out there.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@GuretoSefirosu and egr actually works for what you do. Its the short city driving that makes them bad. And to correctly get more power out of a engine that has everything "weight lifted" it has to be tuned correctly. They are designed just fine. They are just de-tuned. It's kind of a catch 22

[@kclefthanded427]

Emissions crap keeps breaking down more often than the engines themselves

[@BeardedFordTech]

Yep cause they get filled with soot or carbon. Or a stupid sensor

[@troublemakingpups5787]

Right on! This brought back memories. I remember a new Granada that rarely ran. 🤠🐶

[@BeardedFordTech]

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[@tdotw77]

BFT i believe you're right on point. Especially with these diesel engines. All diesel engines are really strong and overbuilt, but yet they are all breaking down, dying & falling apart - more likely an emissions problem is stoping them. A diesel shold last 500k miles no problem. Hopefully some stuff is going to change with everything now that Chevron was overturned in the Supreme Court last week. I hope so at least, the EPA has been overstepping for years going after companies, fining them millions & putting them out of business for good just for selling a muffler system. So much for freedom in the US of A! I really hope things seriously change in November cause if not we're gonna be doomed for sure! 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩😄 Ps the word Malaise is pronounced Mal -aze, not mal-ace!

[@BeardedFordTech]

@tdotw77 yeah I kept mis pronouncing it. Getting tounge twisted and had a major headache. But yeah diesels should last for very long periods of time. Now. I have some in my fleet that have over 500k. Original engine. I know I've replaced the dpf once and the egr once. May have been done previously. Not sure though. But I hope things do change. And for the better.

[@potterg04]

Wow!! I purchased a radiator from the parts store only to discover it was cockeyeed!! Instead the hassle of returning it I finished the installment with ZIPTIES!!!!! I'm with you 💯 %

[@BeardedFordTech]

Holy crap what kind of vehicle was this on? It's crazy out there

[@dustin9035]

2:55…. That’s because fuel injection came out to almost all production vehicles and made meeting emissions easier. I’ll also add, ALL manufacturers can make every single system on a vehicle reliable IF they wanted to. The choice to make and manufacture poor and inferior parts is a choice of cost savings and planned obsolescence, period. If NASA can send someone to the moon in 1969, during a time when pretty much everything had carburetors then ALL manufacturers have the ability to make turbo charged, gas and diesel, DI, multiple speed automatics, computer driven vehicles last 200-300k miles. They just choose not to. I bet if you asked 90% of new vehicle buyers if they would pay 10k more and knew they could use their vehicle for 300k miles without anything more than fluids, brakes, tires and spark plugs they absolutely would. Just my opinion tho.

[@BeardedFordTech]

True. I have trucks in my fleet powerstroke diesels. Ranging from 2011-2023. The older ones have upwards of 500k miles. I know it can be done. But they also have to be maintained and people don't do that. It's a double edged sword

[@natepeterson7145]

This is the same with appliances. 70% of the service calls I run are appliances under the one year warranty. Washer transmission gears made of plastic. Ice makers made of plastic. Stoves that the burners can't boil water in under 10 minutes. Expected to last 3-5 years.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@natepeterson7145 dude thats crazy. And appliances aren't cheap at all. I just had to buy a stand up freezer about a year ago. The cheapest one was like $1100.

[@Patrick-zm8jp]

Emissions components should be required to have a lifetime unlimited mile warranty and guaranteed part availability. You should get paid for every day over the limit that you wait for an emissions part. The grey area is stuff like VVT. Emissions or performance? It is both really. Rainman R and PTT!

[@BeardedFordTech]

You have a valid point there

[@gregoryshuck7559]

I'm in the parts business, OEM for the big three. I see it everyday across the board. Factory parts are made with cheap, inferior materials, are defective out of the box, and labor claims have skyrocketed over the last couple of years as a result. On the other side, you've got these scumbags returning used product as defective, so we have to inspect each part coming back. To add even more nonsense to this, the new car market is effectively broken. There are vehicles with 2000 day supply sitting on lots no one is buying because they've priced the middle class out of the market. The banks are done taking risks, the dealers won't come down on price, and the manufacturers are starting to repo from lots. I apparently picked the wrong field 😒

[@BeardedFordTech]

Very well said and thank you for the insight.

[@bryandraughn9830]

I don't think the automakers are concerned about the customer any more than the government. They make all kinds of deals and they all make more money while we are just trying to drive to work. If there was cooperation between the automakers and the government with the citizens being a priority, we would have affordable, reliable cars because it's really not a difficult challenge. We only matter because we are the consumers. The idea is to market products that we can just barely afford and if we have to pay the taxes, the banks, the manufacturers, and maintenance, just so we can drive to work then so be it. The EPA is letting industry pollute all over the place every day but for some reason we have the most ridiculously complicated and expensive garbage bolted to our vehicles to "protect the environment" . I've gotta go think about something else. Peace

[@BeardedFordTech]

You said that very well. And I agree. Have a great day

[@jonathanjuillerat9831]

Its also the fact that the majority of Americans only keep their vehicles for 3-5 years. Trade it in and get a new one hence why they design it to last 100k miles. The new emissions standards are designed to start killing ice engines especially the larger ones and force people to start buying EVs as the government believes that is the future. Although many experts have repeatedly said that an EV has to last 100k before it becomes carbon neutral. Its all about control whether from the manufacturer or the government. The manufacturer wants to sell as many vehicles as possible and the government wants to control what vehicles get sold. Money and power my friends.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@jonathanjuillerat9831 yep. I'll never go EV

[@dcbacon1]

Another contributing factor was the "Cash for clunkers" program, totally wrong thing to do, IMHO.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@dcbacon1 couldn't agree more. Thise engines could have been saved

[@Stevo422]

Just gonna keep my 01 ford ranger on the road 4.0 4x4 ext cab just rolled 326,000 on original motor and trans.think i got a good one. Kinda scared to let loose and buy something else being all the junk being made these days

[@BeardedFordTech]

@Stevo422 I have a 2019 ranger. Hasn't given me one bit of a problem. I guess I got lucky on it too. I like the 01 ranger. My buddy has a 2011 right around 100k or more. I do all his maintenance and he gave it to his daughter to drive in college. Runs like a champ.

[@JTUSA365]

I apologize for not being best writer! What i was trying bring table . A malfunctioning Evap system is that worse for environment. Or is a out tune engine with plugs fouled lack maintenance worse for environment. I was thinking lack maintenance is way more harmful so if say stock engine got 31mpg its under performing wasting fuel rather than evap code emitting vapors into atmosphere.

[@BeardedFordTech]

That's why your supposed to maintain them. People neglect to do such things.

[@dantone1952]

Why not build vehicles that last longer ,.are easy to work on and make them entirely in America !!?

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@dantone1952 that my friend is the million dollar question.

[@gilmansgarage6341]

Great subject..around the same time international stopped producing light trucks also..✌

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@gilmansgarage6341 oh really?

[@elguapo5467]

C'mon man. Malaise is pronounced "mah-layz", not "mah-lace". Good video but bad grammar.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Thats what happens when you have a headache the size of the united states and are trying to hold it together. I know how to pronounce it. Just didn't really care at that point. But in all seriousness. Thank you for califying. 👍

[@siberiansaint8119]

My opinion is that anybody should be able to do what they want to their vehicle. I think the EPA has gotten to a point of where they are abusing their power. I should be able to order a vehicle a diesel truck with no egr and no emissions. Just like the ATF has overstepped their bounds so has the EPA. Don’t get me wrong we don’t need everyone out driving with no emissions at all but if the cat got rid of a lot of emissions gasses then leave it at that. No need for dpf or egr.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Dpf I can understand it works like a cat. Egr is good for long driving g highway use. Not city driving short trips. That's when they get clogged. And I agree. As a consumer I should be able to buy what I want. Not what I'm limited to

[@matthewholzinger1042]

They also retarded the timing in the gearset so the engines ran cleaner at idle. On one of my cars from the 70s, I replaced the timing set to one from a pre-emissions engine. I also rerouted (deleted) some vacuum controls. These made the engine run on manifold vacuum until the engine warmed up. The results were better power and better mileage. AIR (smog) pumps were one of the first major pollution controls that started sucking the life out of engines.

[@BeardedFordTech]

There's ways to make it more powerful and fuel efficient. It's just owned upon. We aren't allowed to have nice things.

[@wolfeman2120]

Hoefully with chevron gone. We can sue the EPA so they cant change the rules without an act of congress. Its ridiculous they can change the standards whenever they want.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Too much power

[@Justamedic77]

The lawmakers that make these mandates dont talk to auto engineers about real solutions. It seems that when the government gets involved in anything it always has a negative impact as a whole. It either creates worthless technology or creates a large expense on the end user. Its getting nearly impossible for me to do my own repairs and diagnostics.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Agreed

[@91CavGT5]

Exactly. For example, there are simple solutions that can decrease NOX emissions that won’t gum up an engine due to EGR. Water injection is extremely effective at decreasing combustion temps, which high combustion temps due to advanced timing is a big contributor to NOX emissions. But water injection is cheap and very effective so the EPA will never allow it to be commercially used in place of EGR.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@91CavGT5 this is also true.

[@Levigamble]

Wikipedia is not a reputable source sorry. In Uni classes we are always told this is the worst place to get info because anyone with an account can update any information on the site.

[@BeardedFordTech]

It literally said the same thing as car and driver and many other sites. Trust me I compared. But yes they do have some wrong Info on a lot of stuff. But for the most part this was correct.

[@m0ther_bra1ned12]

I think it's worse, and its never going to get better. The days of fun, reliable, and affordable cars are leaving us for good. And it's all by design. And more than half of Americans dont care or even support it. Look what sells the most. Hideous, boring crossovers. People want this.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Trucks and crossovers. And what's sad about trucks. There was a poll about towing and putting stuff In the bed. Only 3% put something in the bed in a year. The towing part was worse.

[@etowahjazz]

Here from Rainman!! Thanks!!

[@BeardedFordTech]

Thank you !

[@TXCherokee]

If a non DPF diesel is running correctly it produces very little O2 nox

[@BeardedFordTech]

@TXCherokee yep. But thats the problem. A lot of guys tune them incorrectly.

[@Justacogg]

The law diminishing returns. With the Chevron Doctrine Gone, maybe manufacturing can concentrate on building vehicles that make sense again!

[@BeardedFordTech]

We will see

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

You’re spot on! 💯 the quality is low and the prices are high

[@BeardedFordTech]

Sucks doesn't it

[@billgraff4809]

Spot on comparison between Malaise Era and current times.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@billgraff4809 💯💯♥️♥️

[@jaimz33]

So early replace means more resources used not very green then. Why not make a car that lasts 50 years

[@BeardedFordTech]

Because they would sell vehicles and make record breaking profits. It can be done. They just won't

[@c.e.anderson558]

Cash for clunkers took millions of good performing cars off the road.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Man I know right. They put that liquid glass in there and run the engine until it stops.

[@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs]

Very interesting video! I'm curious to see what happens in the automotive world during the next 10 years. I was recently surprised to discover that the 2025 Maverick Lobo has only 238 hp (instead of 250 hp like the 2024 EcoBoost Maverick) because of a gas particulate filter (as reported by Ford Authority). Wow, what a lot of changes in a very little time!

[@BeardedFordTech]

Yeah it actually drops power. Crazy isn't it. I'm also curious to see where this all goes. And anything 2025 will have a gas particulate filter. It's started with the Lincoln nautilus in 2024. Everything after that will have it. It's been over seas for a while.

[@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs]

@@BeardedFordTech Very interesting indeed!

[@mikeyo1449]

It's all so silly to me... they are hyping up all these EV cars that are being charged by burning coal. 😂

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@mikeyo1449 yep. Complete 360

[@JohnSmith-fm3jm]

To be fair, engines went from gross horsepower ratings to net. Hence the drop.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Still lose it through the transmission and driveline. We can bump those numbers with some mods

[@chrisr.986]

I agree that sadly, history tends to repeat itself.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Yes. Sadly it does.

[@JTUSA365]

My grandfather in mid 80s pulled out knife from his boot he heard my dodge truck backfiring he cutt smog pump belt off truck was furious i had it connected running air into exhaust to do what all those old engines ran amazing without pollution egr equipment 99 % restricted power u pull egr valve off intake it be blocked off from carbon i mean sealed off no flow. I like ask this question is Evap system more important for environment than a out tune under maintenance engine. So ventilation of fumes burn off vapors. Or fouled plugs no oil changes shot tires 31 mpg only getting 24mpg to me that car out tune under performing is more harmful than any egr code.

[@BeardedFordTech]

What?

[@JTUSA365]

@@BeardedFordTech what i was trying say was my grandfather could here how crappy engine would run with pollution pumps running on mid 70s 80s V 8 engines mostly mopar but he hated seeing emissions pump belts hooked up those old guys removed all that crap because they new it was garbage

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@JTUSA365 gotcha gotcha.

[@MrCarCrazy]

Follow the money. Always.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Facts

[@FORDTECH313]

Dude I know u know that majority of the check engine lights I get are emission related, I talked to Other Ford Techs on Ford Community these past few years I’ve changed more modules than I have pre-Covid. It was very rare that you would have to change a module. I would maybe do one a year, but very rare now is becoming common getting a lot of loose pins and connectors straight from the factory trucks coming in and don’t see the key that comes with it. “ no key detected “ and guess who gets to have fun trying to figure these cars out when they come in like that lucky me the other guys don’t really like electrical cause they lose there as off but you are right things have changed a lot and quality is no more I feel like there’s no pride and doing your job nowadays very rare that a person will do it with pride. It’s like people don’t care. And let’s not talk about back ordered parts 🤦🏽‍♂️ peace bro

[@BeardedFordTech]

Well that's why a check engine light comes on. Something doesn't meet a parameter for emission stuff. Like misfire which would be fuel. You get the point. But yeah I feel you. Coming right off the line halfway built or just slapped together to roll it out. Then it takes guys like you me and other good ones to be an electrician a radio operator a engine specialist and basically a rocket scientist to figure it out.

[@FORDTECH313]

@@BeardedFordTech your right i’ve talked with other texts that retired and they always tell me thank God they’re not working on cars no more

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@FORDTECH313 it can be a pain

[@BrokenShoelaceMSN]

The EPA is about to start having their asses handed to them in lawsuits because they lost the Cheron Deference.

[@BeardedFordTech]

💯💯

[@John5ive]

@BrokenShoelaceMSN they should at least be required to answer why the federal govt is exempt from emissions controls. That is fully selective enforcement of regulations.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@John5ive 💯

[@maxxmich]

Been garbage since 2005

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@maxxmich 🤷‍♂️

[@kenj.8897]

Good info and honesty 👍

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@kenj.8897 💯💯

[@scubieman]

EGR needs gone, the SCR and DPF fine... also it shouldnt be cheaper to get rid of it then fix it right

[@BeardedFordTech]

EGR works great if it's constantly on the highway. Not stop and go traffic. It keeps exhaust Temps at normal levels.

[@scubieman]

@@BeardedFordTech May work great, but still thought of dirty soot going back into the engine . I get the point, but not my cup of tea. Also why does deleting allow 20% fuel increase? or 10% whatever it is

[@BeardedFordTech]

@scubieman because ypu have to tune it when you delete it. Therefore using more fuel. Egr doesn't work as hard if it's highway. Doesn't get gummed up in the intake. Like hotshot drivers and such. City drivers are the ones that have egr issues.

[@markrobedeau2223]

Epa regs make no sense . I have a 1965 dodge truck w318 with carb that has lower emissions than my 2002 2500hd with a 8.1 gas that is fuel Injection. My state requires testing every year.

[@BeardedFordTech]

We have emissions testing here. No tail pipe sniffer. But. If it's 3 yrs or newer less than 70k miles. It's safety only not safety and emissions. Anything over 20 yrs is safety only. And depending on what county you live in it may be safety only or safety emissions. It's all BS

[@91CavGT5]

I used to own a 1991 Chevy Cavalier station wagon that was turbocharged, had big injectors, a Crower camshaft, Haltec standalone ECU, and no catalytic converter nor EGR. It passed the tailpipe sniffer tests. All it took was a good tune. That proves that good emissions can be achieved without all of the mandated pollution control devices, even on a modified engine that put out over twice the factory power.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@91CavGT5 oh it can very much be achieved. Thing is finding people to do a tune and not get caught.

[@theydontknowmeson007]

Car quality sucks and they are way over priced

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@theydontknowmeson007 seems it's getting worse

[@theydontknowmeson007]

@@BeardedFordTech the legend himself! Love your content!

[@pcnetworx1]

Repeating it to a T

[@BeardedFordTech]

💯💯

[@ret7army]

Another from RR

[@BeardedFordTech]

Much appreciated 👏 thank you.

[@NorthPhilly_Bul]

I heard ford had an all new rubber belt driven oil pump in the bottom of the pan… submerged in oil….. And belt failure is causing havoc on ford engines

[@BeardedFordTech]

It does. So does the 21 and up f150 with the 5.0. Wet oil pump belt. So do a couple others (not the mustang) the big problem is the 1.0

[@NorthPhilly_Bul]

@@BeardedFordTech I figured it had to be the smaller engines smh…. Doing this to a 5.0. Is blatant treachery……. Car manufacturers have lost all credibility…..

[@NorthPhilly_Bul]

@@BeardedFordTech I have a 23 suburban z71 with the brembo style front caliper…. Brakes wore after 3 months to the point it was lathing the rotor…… This was after a 1000 Chevy brake job…. I’ve never seen this in my life….

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@NorthPhilly_Bul I have. I see it on my 2022 tahoes with the same setup in my fleet. I go through brakes on them like crazy. They are junk.

[@peterbenson3776]

Some of the early 80’s cars are gone because of faulty emissions “fixes”

[@BeardedFordTech]

@peterbenson3776 yeah and down this rabbit I went it was saying that some of those 70-84 vehicles are gone or not very sought after and are just rotting away

[@paulheitkemper1559]

Is there an early 80's car worth keeping? What from that era is considered a classic? Maybe if you're into Trans Ams? All I remember is K cars, ugly Pontiacs, forgettable Escorts and Chevetts, etc.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@paulheitkemper1559 a car from the 80's. Not thay I'm aware of.

[@paulheitkemper1559]

@@BeardedFordTech now that I think about it, some foreign cars like Rabbit/Golfs, BMWs, Gen2 Scirocco, or Mercedes are still sought out in some circles.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@paulheitkemper1559 this is true

[@Blake_Drago]

What you said is literally 100% true I feel.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@Blake_Drago 💯💯

[@neilkratzer3182]

Only problem we have today is congress hasn't had oversight on the EPA. The EPA belongs to the executive branch and much of this stuff hasn't been passed by Congress to give them all that authority. Not only that the EPA was started by Executive order and never was fully voted on by Congress. We have a three letter agency does what they want.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@neilkratzer3182 yep

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

Carter started it and Trump wanted to delete it.

[@ctech14367]

Well do I, you, we really need a new vehicle?? They are high priced junk, they require high price junk parts really who needs one I think we are living in the era of stupidity on the consumers part. $75-100k for a pick up truck 😂😂😂😂

[@BeardedFordTech]

Yeah. Well not really high priced parts. Just cheap parts outrageously priced. And the vehicle is just outrageous as well. All about profits. I didn't pay 75-100 for my truck. Think it was like 39k

[@theydontknowmeson007]

What year cars should I keep my eyes open for?

[@BeardedFordTech]

Pre late 20 so anything built around June 2020 and back.

[@theydontknowmeson007]

@@BeardedFordTech sounds good. I'll keep my 06 crv as long as I can.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@theydontknowmeson007 yes. There's no point in getting anything new if yours is running just fine and gets from point a to point b.

[@StephenFeeney-n4w]

You totally forget about planned obsolescence built into vehicles since the mid 70s but ya blame everything on the epa

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@StephenFeeney-n4w I didn't blame anything on the epa. I just mentioned the epa of when it was established and how manufacturers have to comply with all the new regulations. Might want to watch again

[@philliplopez8745]

History does not repeat itself , but it does rhyme .

[@BeardedFordTech]

That's a way of looking at it. Kind of like you only live once. Wrong. You die once. You live everyday.

[@Digit09z]

Catalytic converters of the 70's are nothing like the Catalytic converters of today. Things change, with that failure happens too.

[@BeardedFordTech]

I know they aren't the same. We have three way catalyst now and many others

[@Digit09z]

@BeardedFordTech hell yeah it's hard to have a cat delete street tune that out performs a cat intact tune. Everything gets figured out or left behind. I remember in the 80's when everything was transitioning to fuel injection, you would have thought the world was in fire. Now who wants to me with tuning a carb except is old heads that know how.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@Digit09z I can tune a carb. It was one of the things I wanted to learn. I had a 68 mustang. Had to learn

[@Digit09z]

@@BeardedFordTech sweet, I'll check out your content, I like Ray's videos.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@Digit09z Rays a good dude with awesome content.

[@Nick-pd9mk]

The supreme court reversing the Chevron Doctrine should help curb EPA regulations. However, the auto manufacturers need to push back and not allow laws to be put in place without congressional votes.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Exactly

[@donreinke5863]

As far as the 1970s-80s vehicles, we used to modify the engines with aftermarket parts to get performance that at least approached the vehicles of the late 1960s ,before the miserable EPA started with their regulations. Although the EPA claimed they had authority over vehicles built from 1968, we regularly gave them the middle finger, deac tivating or blocking off EGR valves with "stealth plates" made from soda cans, gutting or entirely removing "smog pumps" and chopping out catalytic converters with various steel implements and rejetting carburetors or replacing them with more performance oriented ones. The state "emissions testing" was a joke, within days of it starting we knew how to defeat it. When they started failing vehicles for a CEL, we hooked the bulb up to an oil pressure sender which mimicked the correct operation of the light. They were totally clueless . They didnt have the resources, knowledge or manpower to do anything about it, and we knew it. Since most engines of the era were based on 1960s (or in some cases 1950s) designs they were well designed and engineered to begin within most cases, and were time-proven. The idea was to get maximum potential out of them. There were junk parts around even then, we used to avoid Wells electronic components, preferring to source them from NAPA or Big A which at the time supplied quality parts. I refuse to own any vehicle made after 1995, when modifications became more difficult due to increased use of electronic controls which increased complexity and therefore likelihood of failure. New vehicles are expensive failure prone garbage .I repair them for other people...I refuse to buy them

[@BeardedFordTech]

@donreinke5863 I wish inwas driving back then. Mu dad told me stories when he used to drive a s teenage late 50's early 60's and what they would do. Nowadays everything is computerized (you know this working on them) it's a real pita

[@donreinke5863]

@@BeardedFordTech You speak truth.... I HATE working on newer vehicles. I started in automotive repair in high school.in 1972 I wouldnt want to be just starting now, the learning curve is unimaginable. I read somewhere that the only profession that requires more knowledge than ours ( for those doing general repair and not specializing in a single make) is medical doctor.. Im currently working on a 1957 Thunderbird and a 2018 Grand Cherokee. The Thunderbird is fun..the Jeep is a P.I.T.A.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@donreinke5863 and they just keep adding more electronics. We have to me mechanics. Electricians and computer experts. Changes constantly. When you think you got it figured out. Bam a new system comes out and you got to learn that too.

[@donreinke5863]

@@BeardedFordTech I definitely get that, the excessive reliance on electronics has gotten to the point where it causes more trouble than its worth Wiring harness to the engine is two inches in diameter now compared to only 5 to 8 wires on 70s cars, even after electronic ignition was introduced, and any one of those 60+ wires on those newer vehicles can develop an open after a while, or if the idiots at the factory made the harness too short and they flex with engine movement. Like the power window wires in drivers doors, they break internally. Finding continuity issues n circuits is totally aggravating, and every vehicle seems to need a different pin chart for the damn ECM, not to mention the auxiliary modules. My 50s-70s vehicles get an AOD upgraded with 4R70W wide-ratio planetaries so I dont have to deal with AODE electronics when i want to go to an overdrive. I build those myself

[@BeardedFordTech]

@donreinke5863 very cool! Yeah the door harness that goes through the door into the body. The wires always break right behind the connector on the door side. I got to the point at work instead of soldering and splicing I just replace the harness. I keep the old one as spare wires and cut the connectors off with about 6 inches of pigtail to keep as spares. Come in handy quite often

[@alanm.4298]

I hope to be able to keep my 1997 truck on the road for the rest of my life and am working on getting my 1962 sports car (purchased in 1978) back in running condition, too. Today I wouldn't consider buying anything built after 2004. In fact, just met into a guy driving an old F150 that he says was once blue, now is mostly primer and surface rust, am tempted to ask if he would consider selling it.

[@BeardedFordTech]

I love me some 60's cars. You should have no problem keeping that 97 going. Keep it maintained.

[@JTUSA365]

Its all bullshit these people explode weapons test nuclear bombs but we need catalytic converters its just regulations for wallets major city's have pollution while farmland i dont see smog where i wake up go figure but also they regulate emissions in some low populated areas while city gets a pass these are facts. I think a tune up with engine burning correctly in my eyes is better that a shitty running engine not maintained but has no evap codes so essentially u can waste fuel at vehicle supposedly factory specs at 31 mpg but if it gets 25 mpg but check engine light isnt on or evap codes its good to go!

[@BeardedFordTech]

Man I totally agree. No smog where I am either. You nailed it.

[@DeepakKumar-lv4te]

Blame the engineers, not the regs. Better designs pls.

[@BeardedFordTech]

They do design some awesome stuff. Then bean counters come in and want to save money and redesign it. Literally friends with an engineer and many have said the same thing.

[@DeepakKumar-lv4te]

@@BeardedFordTech egr well designed? Why not serviceable?

[@Thee-AmateurAn94]

“Better design?” Oh I thought you said “helps the bottom line” Not Intersted.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@DeepakKumar-lv4te an egr is well designed. It's just not used in a well-designed way. It's meant for long highway drives to keep exhaust Temps down. Not short city driving keeping Temps down. So therefore it shouldn't be on every vehicle. But how do they know which vehicles are used where? They don't. So they slap it on everything.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@Thee-AmateurAn94 🤣

[@ultron6931]

As those of us who are the techs repairing these vehicles, its hard for us to understand why a similar engine platform changes from one year to the next as it relates to emissions. I think the gasoline engine has enjoyed much of a free pass on emissions thanks to catalytic converters being mostly an ubobtrusive device compared to the equipment that was slapped on diesels. I did know that Europe was working on gasoline particulate filters. The techs repairing these things have to have a much greater knowledge of how complicated these engines have become and some techs just don't have it in them. Especially trying to explain that Fords cam phasers change degrees to perform in cylinder EGR operations. Perhaps its time to rethink the fuel that we are using to target emissions. Such as E100 from a renewable source instead of just pushing electrificaiton. I also see older folks spending money on fixing 10+ year old trucks to avoid buying new ones until reliable part supplies from dealers dwindle.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@ultron6931 it's a constant battle. And always having to learn how a new system works. There's a lot going on.

[@MisterMikeTexas]

Vote in November! Maybe we can get many of these bad government regulations reversed.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@MisterMikeTexas 💯💯

[@DocZoidberg549]

That era was not all bad. I loved my 77 Malibu with a 350. Auto parts quality was also better. I do understand your point.

[@BeardedFordTech]

I wasn't around back then I came around about 5 years later. So I personally can't compare. Only what I can read on different sites which all say basically the same thing

[@GuretoSefirosu]

This also affects 2A stuff. F the ATF now! Maybe we will be able to delete legally one day!

[@BeardedFordTech]

Yep

[@jsh6952]

@BeardedFordTech The word malaise is French in origin and is generally pronounced as máh-laze. It started with California mandating smog reduction in 1969 and went nationwide with the founding of the EPA, and ended in 1984 when technology unlocked the horsepower we lost to emissions equipment.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@jsh6952 yeah I knew/know how it's pronounced and where it started. But I had a massive headache filming this. Nothing was coming out right 😞

[@jsh6952]

​@BeardedFordTech I hate headache days. I suffer from severe migraines. The early 1970s saw the introduction of catalytic converters, exhaust gas recirculation and air injection pumps, also known as smog pumps. Only catalytic converters worked well with carburetors. EGR and smog pumps negatively impacted power and performance. 1984 was the widespread introduction of fuel injection, oxygen sensors, and early engine management computers. Horsepower and performance lost in 1973 was restored and in some cases, exceeded by the new technology. Fuel efficiency also increased. By 1989, carburetors were only to be found on lawn equipment and some Harley-Davidson motorcycles. By 1993, all bikes were fuel injected from the factory.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@jsh6952 yeah I get a migraine like once a month. I used to work at a motorcycle shop for a bit. 2004 was the first year fuel injection for the Yamaha r6. But that's sport bike we are talking. Crazy how things change.

[@jsh6952]

In 1993, I had a 1977 Ford LTD stationwagon with the 6.6L/400 V8. I had done a lot of my own tuning to the engine. Stock, exhaust flows into the intake manifold from a port on the intake side of both heads, that same port was also used for the smog pump. A passage in the intake went to the carburetor mounting pad, between the mounting pad and the carb is the EGR spacer, to which the vacuum activated EGR valve bolted onto. I could never get that car to pass emissions with the EGR and smog pump working. From the factory, the fuel mixture screws were epoxy sealed, so no air-fuel ratio adjustment could be made. I dismounted the carb to remove the epoxy, flipped the EGR spacer over to block off the EGR passages and cut the drive belt to the smog pump. I then did my own idle and fuel adjustments with the aid of a vacuum gauge, reducing cold idle from 950 rpm to 450 rpm, and then seated both mixture screws, backed them out the same amount, then adjusting both to stalling out, then adding back 1/4 turn to the ratio. Lo! And Behold! That car passed emissions at a tenth of expected levels for CO, NOx, and hydrocarbons. Unfortunately, it failed the equipment check for the smog pump drive belt. I had a spare belt in the car, installed it in the line to get retested, all watched by DOT, passed the equipment check, by failed the hydrocarbons by 20x expected. While still hooked to the sniffer, I shut the car off, cut the belt with DOT watching me, started the engine and had the test rerun. Passed the sniffer test by the same 90% below expected as the first test. On the spot I was granted an equipment waiver for no smog pump. The factory dual catalytic converters worked like champs for the entire 385000 miles the car lasted until the frame cracked at the driver's front torque box on the frame. That engine was later transplanted to another 77 Country Squire wagon and went another 250k before needing a rebuild.

[@jsh6952]

@@BeardedFordTech I use an injection called Ajovy every 4 weeks to control my migraines, and as a backup, I used Ubrelvy for the ones that get past the Ajovy. You have to go through a neurologist that specializes in migraines to get both drugs.

[@alanrodriguez7341]

Yes the catalytic is enough and it makes the other systems work harder in performers like the egr valve and DEF systems. And yes we are in a relationship of a malaise year industry. As far as quality of air it is better than the years of vintage like the 50s and before. Not only does the work go down but other safety features like air bag, brake, and seat belt, and charging systems either burn down the vehicles or a loss of control are scary. It really affects our way of living and takes away from our American heritage as an American citizen. I dont trust my new truck.😢

[@BeardedFordTech]

Many people don't trust their new rides. And I can see why

[@alanrodriguez7341]

@@BeardedFordTech Yes, and I really think could just focus on having a good mechanic like 👍 yourself.

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

I fought this with my senators both Democrats and they say we love the EPA. I tried to save our gas engines. Funny enough Garbage time he uploaded a video about third party parts are worse than OEM. He was saying the engine will die before the EV enforcement. We Americans will go buy used vehicles then. EVs has gone cheaper yes but for 250 miles range and it takes 45 or minutes to recharge. I rather go walk to the job site and be done and walk home before the car recharge. Or we go buy horse drawn buggies for transportation.

[@BeardedFordTech]

I'll walk before I go EV. Funny you say horse and buggy. My wife says that all the time. And your both right.

[@WilliamHollinger2019]

@@BeardedFordTech hey I could buy a horse from an Amish farm but fuel is oats, hey, apples, carrots, and more. Are not cheap. Act of 2008 is stupidity vehicle over five tons no idling. More like 1/2 ton no idling.

[@philspear73]

I saw on another video that diesel engines can meet the standards with an improved piston design. I think you're spot on, let's just hope it doesn't last as long this go round.

[@BeardedFordTech]

They can with a different design. This is true.

[@danielbaldwin9288]

Planned obsolescence. Designed only to last warranty and finance term. Some new cars don't even last 1/2 the loan. Making payments on a new car that needs a cvt or a new engine (kia)

[@stevendorris5713]

Don't forget Nissan and their CVT

[@BeardedFordTech]

That part. CVT. Oh man

[@BeardedFordTech]

Or Subaru with wheel bearings every 30k miles

[@godisgood789]

It's worse than you think. Everything is shifting towards EV technology. In the next 10 to 20 years, the gas and diesel industry will be absolutely gone and put into the coffin. California is already headed in that direction. By 2035 the mandate will go into full swing for gas and later diesel.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@godisgood789 power grid can't handle all electric. Everything runs on diesel. How do they think those electric cars get charged?

[@godisgood789]

@@BeardedFordTech That's very true however China has gone full blown Steroids with EV technology. The grid is sustaining itself. In spectrum - it is also the technology that is coming to sustain the grid issue. Ofcourse they are not revealing what's behind the curtain yet. Not sure if your familiar with the LHC in Switzerland at CERN. In my opinion it is that technological advanced machine which brings new ideas and energies into existence. Check it out.....

[@Thee-AmateurAn94]

The industry won’t be gone it just won’t be available to the peasants.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@tristanmartinez2667 yep. They won't mandate it by 2035 though. They already can't handle what electric cars they do have

[@CJRock-xn5qf]

The recent SCOTUS decision that gutted Chevron Deference will provide relief, a way for manufacturers to succeed in challenging EPA overreach.

[@BeardedFordTech]

Yep. Agree. We shall see!

[@Thee-AmateurAn94]

I wouldn’t be so sure that these corporations are going to turn on a government that’s bailed them out in the past. When times are good the shareholders make things better, but when things go south the government makes sure the corporation is taken care of. Corporate execs keep their jobs and even get huge bonuses, while share holders lose everything and have to come out of retirement and get a job, that’s if they can still work… Lobbyists represent the corporation not the shareholders. Shareholders could pressure the corporation to challenge the epa but it would never happen because it wouldn’t make sense for them to and if the shareholders tried to challenge the corporation then the government would step in and protect their investment.

[@georgelewis9729]

Right on point BFT!!

[@BeardedFordTech]

💯💯

[@wrightsrrt871]

Everyone knows about this era they just call it the obd1 and obd2 eras in simple terms cause the obd systems where introduced to regulate smog better along with egr valves and many other things to fix pollution!

[@BeardedFordTech]

@wrightsrrt871 obd wasn't back them. Wasn't rewlly around until 1982. On some vehicles. On-board diagnostics (OBD) I was first introduced in 1991 when the California Air Resources Board (CARB) mandated that all vehicles in the state have some form of basic OBD. OBD I was not standardized across manufacturers and was more basic and less comprehensive than the later OBD II system. OBD I systems typically only monitored emission control systems. OBD I was used in vehicles up to 2006 and most vehicles from 1982 to 1995 are equipped with some type of OBD I. OBD2 was 1996 until present being mandatory. That's why only some 2006 models have obd1.

[@wrightsrrt871]

@BeardedFordTech I know I specialize in automotive electric brother and my dad tought me growing up he was an helicopter crew chief in service and did electrical on those he said it's way more complex what I'm saying is the time of shitty cars as you call it was the same time frame during the 70s when they started the adventure in the government voting on the emissions laws and stuff cause we all know before the obd1 came out in 82 they have all types of planning to do then it came out and personally I think that the time frame for shit cars would have more been from 80 to 94 but that's cause I like the 78-79 Buick regal ,the 70s cutlass and there's many more I could name like Monty Carlo ss! But to each there own opinion. I'm not hating just speaking on the subject and seeing what all think as well! You would probably know better as you seem to have michanic schooling and I'm just an shade tree michanic that grew up in it.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@wrightsrrt871 oh yeah I got you. Just a general conversation. My brother was an apache and Blackhawk mechanic he did power plant though. Put it this way. Everything right now in every industry sucks. It's really bad

[@wrightsrrt871]

@BeardedFordTech yah I've been in construction my whole life as well and I'm switching to automotive cause I'm tired of the lack in pay for intensive labor vs jobs like burger flopping jobs or even where people stand around and do bar tending or security jobs at the door as an bouncer those jobs have there own stresses but there not physically stressful on the body like cars and construction! And as far as whyckapidia is concerned obd1 was renamed obd2 in the early 90s to eliminate the confusion of that they added more moduals to the systems that had nothing to do with emissions (door maduals and such), where obd1 was strictly emissions based so after the early 90s when it changed it was no longer referred to as obd1 but only as obd 2 and they also changed over to an universal plug across the board where obd1 had different plugs for different cars making it expensive to buy all types of adapter plugs. I'm just confused what company's kept only obd1 up to 2006 I've never heard of this but I'm always learning new stuff and it intrigues me?

[@BeardedFordTech]

@wrightsrrt871 yeah obd 2 was standard in 1996. Some vehicles up to 2006 still had obd1

[@sixstrings24]

Who is John Galt? Want to see where our country is heading read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. Get a old copy from an old book store or library.

[@BeardedFordTech]

I will do this! There's an old book store down the road from my house. Thanks for the tip

[@bobbybishop5662]

Jaun Gault is a awesome dude

[@davidhomen4528]

It always seems like everything goes full circle.

[@BeardedFordTech]

At some point it does go full circle. History tends to repeat itself.

[@d46512]

Yes , there are similarities , but the causes for this are different than the oil crisis in the 70s

[@BeardedFordTech]

@d46512 yes I know its different than the oil crisis. That's what brought it on the first time according to all the articles I read from different sources. Lots of similarities though. (Not referring to oil crisis)

[@d46512]

@@BeardedFordTech Your video has really had me thinking. One might compare the oil crisis to the supposed climate crisis to explain some of the atomotive industry's design choices

[@BeardedFordTech]

@d46512 it's a rabbit hole. They call them crisis and tell you what they want you to hear. Not saying there isn't one. But. I think they do go hand in ha d somehow.

[@peterbenson3776]

I will say the difference in air quality in large cities is very evident. I know that i recognize the exhaust odors from pre 1970 cars is familiar to me. The technology has obviously become too complicated.

[@BeardedFordTech]

@@peterbenson3776 yeah it's doing it's job. Then they keep adding more stuff to it

[@Thee-AmateurAn94]

Air quality improved, water purity went to shit. They didn’t fix the problem they just took it out of the air and put it in the water.

[@Thee-AmateurAn94]

And made a lot of money doing it 🤌