The Batman, Is It An Easter Egg or Is It A Reference? | Absolutely Marvel & DC

[@hector-1610]

I love that Sal says, "Watch our Joker episode to find out why." It felt like one of those blurbs in comics from the writer when referencing another issue 🤣

[@jonjonnz316]

Alfred's cane was a reference to Michael Caine, who played Alfred in the Nolan films.

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

LMAOOO

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

CANON

[@jordanrodriguez6412]

gtfoh lmaooooo thas so stupid

[@wanderingrogue3039]

No This Alfred is based on Earth One

[@cyndire8784]

Fun (actual) Easter egg/reference. There’s a William Shakespeare bust in the background of a shot in Wayne Tower (I don’t recall which shot exactly sorry) A William Shakespeare bust hid the entrance to the batcave in Batman 66.

[@codystork3008]

My dad and I both saw it the scene is when alfred opens the mail

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

16:37 Sal goes through 3 stages of emotion and it's hilarious

[@aTron0018]

I've always felt a little cringe feeling with the way we label everything as "Easter eggs." As a literary educator the correct term is "allusion"! I know definitions can change based on popular usage, but really what we refer to as Easter eggs are, in fact, allusions! I remember when Easter eggs were only found in DVDs when they were getting really popular and applied to hidden menu options and features about the movie. It was so cool to use the DVD remote to look for hidden clickable options in the DVD menus.

[@notsosecretsquirrel9389]

I believe they stopped because they felt they put a lot of work into something that a lot of people missed out on??

[@SuperCliffReviews]

I don't love it when people are sad - I am a caring person -- but man, it's so entertaining to witness an upset Sal lol

[@3210elio]

16:37 Sal be like: 😆🤣😐

[@nathanielthomas1894]

Well the rat cage on the face is directly from George Orwell's 1984. I also thought that the twin bouncers were supposed to be tweedle dee and dum. But the credits just say "the twins", enough to say I was disappointed to see a missed opportunity for a cool Easter egg.

[@PurpleColonel]

The rat cage on the face is like a real thing people have done in history

[@donbirkinshaw1630]

isnt the tweedle dee and dum dum twins mad hatter henchemen and not penuin hencment,.tahts seems to amke more sense to me since he has the hole alice in wonderland theme going for him so it makes sense for them to be mad hatter hench men if they arnt..i kind of usut assumed they are becuase themeing...side not id kind of like to see how matt revves would hanlde the mad hatter he could be uniqe foe for abatman movie but if hes to small for a movie maybe have him as a villain in a tv show or spin of..take the arkham mad hatter apporhc where he would use white rabbit shapped hats to put on henchemn to control them and have tweedle dee and dum be his right and left hand men

[@nathanielthomas1894]

@@donbirkinshaw1630 And the riddler is supposed to wear a bowler hat and spandex, what's your point? Lmao

[@donbirkinshaw1630]

@@nathanielthomas1894 yeah and.. i dont know what that has to do with what i said..you said i thoguht they was tweedle dee and tweedle dum..and i said i think they are mad hatter henehcmenes becuase it was relivent to what you just said about thw twins...the riddler has nothign to do with thaty idsscuion,..and goog chance that riddler in future appearences would adopt the bowler hat and tux it seems they have future plan s for the riddler and is likely he will show up again..even tho he isnt whearign thathe was still portrayde like the riddler and i dotn even knwo what this has to do about what i jsut said or what yo said before hand///i gave you a palsueable reaosn for the twisn thing and you just bring up soemthign unrelated how am i surpost to respond to that

[@overlord6993]

I thought the same thing with tweedle dee and dum

[@lunarocks2228]

With the rat cage trap, I just kept thinking of the ending of 1984 with Room 101 where Winston is faced with his debilitating fear of rats. I kind of like the idea that even in universe it’s meant to be a reference to that ‘cause Riddler, needing to show off how clever/intelligent he is, totally would make a reference like this even if that reference isn’t meant to be part of the clue

[@MeSpawn297]

The first Riddler card Batman gets has an owl on the front that says "Who?". I assume that's the CoO reference.

[@wokenlunatic2849]

The first time I know about Batman is The Batman Cartoon (the one that Bane looks like The Red Hulk)

[@blakepittman6679]

Such a weird but entertaining series 😂

[@adamfreddo5703]

Be cool if he can turn the lenses to appear white in the sequels, when he needs to appear less human.

[@CptCrash21]

"Waste your time by watching Benny and Sal waste their time by reading an article that wastes everyone's time."

[@marcusavatar3149]

there is at least one owl in the movie. Only saw it the movie once so far but, the first letter the riddler leaves to batman has an owl on it. I thought they would dig more into it but when they didn't i just assumed it was a lil "blink and you'll miss it" reference.

[@owen_asztalos]

Aren’t long Halloween and year one sort of journalish, in the way that Bruce usually dates his internal monologues or journal entries rather

[@haydenhidey8698]

To me, the reason I think it wouldn’t be venom is because this Batman likely hasn’t encountered bane and I’ll tell you why. This Batman literally gets hit in the back of the head and shot at multiple times throughout this movie (perfectly represents me playing the Arkham games). If he was that “sloppy” when he met bane, bane nearly would’ve killed him.

[@donb7519]

yea but technically batman learns about venom before meeting bane in batman venom

[@samslash9]

Damien stole the case book in a detective comics story

[@HelFrostKara]

The bit about ads... Articles are so hard to read these days... I know they need money but things just keep popping up and loading at different times I'm just like NOPE.

[@TrenchBabyJay77]

Just a heads up Pattinson is known for lying or making things up on the fly in interviews so take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt.. he likes to troll n have fun (also unrelated fun little tidbit the new and great I might add Batman:Imposter story line features Batman armor that looks pretty close if not exactly like Damascus dfx2 riot armor)

[@s-wo8781]

11:12 bruh, what? Gotham by s New York. It's in the comics themselves. Bob Kane even said he went with the name Gotham which is an old name for New York because he wanted be distinct and not use Manhattan.

[@bibbyboxx2219]

Gotham isn’t actually New York, it’s a city in New Jersey. New York actually exists in the DC universe.

[@HovektheArtist]

​@@bibbyboxx2219 and metropolis is flipped between being next to new york and being actual new york, but gotgam is always accross the bay/river from metropolis at the tip of jersey. I remember in one comic one hero says that only a hole like jersey could have a city like gotham

[@scotty2hotty298]

Did anyone also see the Shakespeare head bust when Alfred opened the letter. Neat little Easter egg to Batman 66 where the head bust is the secret switch to the batcave.

[@Super-Visor420]

“I’m pretty sure they were just Riddler goons. That’s all it was.” It’s sad that Benny can’t see thematics in a movie, that to him this is no more complex than the 60s show. That and “you’ve made it political” reminded me why I’ve been avoiding this guy’s content for years.

[@jimjammer333]

Yeah lmao, that part of the movie was pretty explicitly commenting on real-world online radicalisation. It wan't even that subtle. The writers of the article weren't "making it political", they were just noting the themes of the movie.

[@accidentalmadness1708]

Benny doesn’t look very deep into things, that’s more Sal and Tiffany area.

[@radicalraddish6292]

Sal keeps referencing this riddle factory story and I'm dying to find it to read it for myself but I can't find anything on it

[@OfficialKingAries]

i want to say Batman:Riddler 1995

[@loganwendigo937]

It's collected in the Legends of the Dark Knight: Matt Wagner trade I believe

[@maxwellrauchut7926]

There actually was an owl Easter egg by having an owl on the card but an explanation of who Lincoln March is cool too I guess

[@shinkaiatsuya950]

When look at these internet articles should make a bingo sheet.

[@avidplanes]

Young justice cartoon uses the contacts a lot I honestly thought that was what they were referencing

[@monokuma7184]

The door being closed at 18:41 is an Easter egg. I'm calling it!

[@redkalel]

Hey Sal what issue is Riddle Factory? I would like to read that?

[@bibbyboxx2219]

Batman: Riddler (1997)

[@loganwendigo937]

It is collected in Legends of the Dark Knight: Matt Wagner trade

[@CasualKing21]

Speaking about Alfred having a cane I like to think that it's also a reference or Easter egg or whatever to Watson from Sherlock Holmes. Maybe? I could be reaching. Bruce is Sherlock and Alfred is Watson?

[@amirbey9695]

I think Hugo stange is the perfect villain for the sequel because they teased the Arkham inmates and strange is doctor in the asylum that does expirements on the inmates.

[@bibbyboxx2219]

Hugo isn’t really associated with Arkham that much in the comics. Not before the New 52, anyways.

[@amirbey9695]

@@bibbyboxx2219 no he was associated with Arkham for a long time, go read the legend of the dark knight and batman and the monster men comics.

[@felixg.4908]

i'm curious for; what is your distinction between a reference and an easter egg?

[@wokenlunatic2849]

For some weird reason I thought Catwoman gonna said that she’s The Daughter of The Penguin (and that would be weird because in Batman Return The Penguin and Catwoman are in the movie and you clearly see The Penguin had a thing with Catwoman)

[@passarovoador6662]

OH MAH DAUGHTER

[@Hakbushicomics]

The twins outside the iceberg lounge are definitely from arkham city

[@overlord6993]

What if they named an officer Pete savage to make the nerds and theorists believe vandal savage us the big villain of the movie, since Pete savage is a really ridiculous name for a cop

[@johnny2003]

“This is 100% true. Unless of course it isn’t.”

[@PTBIC]

There’s a book they released based in the universe that says he built the Batmobile

[@Tomdawg89]

Another few random references in the movie: Tricorner and the East End.

[@Magnus1964]

Do the ads have one that says, “Meet lonely Batgirls in your area”?

[@mttylerdurden9]

10:54 Gotham is Florida on joker venom.

[@yeaboi990]

When I go watch the Batman I'll pay attention to the orphanage just in case in might be willow wood

[@alonzo68obb]

tim drake actor was cast in the batman before titans..

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

Ok Not Kang 😂😂😂

[@Runge_was_here]

Did I make up that it has actually established that Gotham City is in a fictional Gotham County NJ? Far from an expert but that was how I remember it.

[@TevyaSmolka]

ooh hush reference

[@josejoaquinmunozvonlojewsk1791]

In Batman Eternal Catwoman's father is called Rex "The Lion" Calabrese so...

[@galvatron3323]

The 2 of ye are all thats needed gents....and Dan popping in. If you want to know about the Ego Batman go watch the Back Issues on it.

[@BartholomewHenryAllen]

Rob Core vs Ben Family. Who wins?

[@swordmonkey6635]

Knowing Oscar Widle quotations is pretty pop culture. Maybe upper pop culture, but pop culture nonetheless. The guy was slinging memes and being sarcastic towards society before it was a thing. He made a career out of roasting society and pretention. Society got the last laugh unfortunately when Oscar was imprisoned for being a homosexual (which was illegal in England).

[@chrisxx5583]

As much as I LOVED the movie as a whole I do think that Hush would have fit better within the story than Riddler. Riddler’s arc made sense but being an orphan affected by the Renewal project felt a bit forced. Have pretty much the same story but have the main antagonist as Tommy Elliot/Hush as the son of the murdered reporter seeking revenge on the corrupt city officials and Bruce Wayne. You could then give the movie an overriding theme of “sins of the father” as Bruce, Selina and Tommy Elliot deal with the consequences of their parents. Further reference to this theme could be Jim Gordon wanting to build a better city for his daughter and also the son of the murdered mayor who could become Robin/Nightwing in a future movie.

[@vincesergi7339]

How would have the riddles and mysteries work with hush? If you replace riddler with Hush then everyone would have said this movie would have worked better as Riddler or the villain is just riddler with the Hush monarch.

[@chrisxx5583]

@@vincesergi7339 True, it wouldn’t be an exact switch. You could tone down the riddle aspect and have them more as clues or breadcrumbs leading Batman to an endgame Hush is aiming for. It wouldn’t be like for like but the main story beats would remain in place. I loved the movie overall and it’s just a small nitpick.

[@passarovoador6662]

Idk I Just preder Riddler over Hush

[@Tores444]

People keep making Hush connections to Riddler just because that crap Hush animated movie. It's annoying

[@maartenvangeffen4508]

No The Riddler was behind the whole Hush plot in the original comic, which the animated film adapted. Plus there were multiple Hush references in The Batman, hence all the Riddler connections

[@Tores444]

@@maartenvangeffen4508 Riddler amd Thomas Elliot were in on it together. Not the bullshit Riddler IS Hush crap they pulled

[@maartenvangeffen4508]

@@Tores444 No one is saying Hush is Riddler though lmao, except for this shitty article which everyone is making fun of

[@Tores444]

@@maartenvangeffen4508 pretty much all the easter egg/reference channels are saying Riddler is this universes Thomas Elliot cause the reporters name was Elliot and Riddler says he's an orphan

[@maartenvangeffen4508]

@@Tores444 I've seen that nowhere. It could still be a pretty valid theory though since he was so obsessed with the death of that journalist. If Matt Reeves wasn't as loyal to the source material he definitely might have made Riddler into Hush

[@chowderman8888]

I did enjoy it

[@Lanier2369]

The Edward Nash as a real name for the riddler in regular continuity must be a relatively new thing, maybe it's nu 52 and right before? I know classically in regular comics from his introduction into at least the 80s his name has ALWAYS been Edward nigma, unless I missed something year one on or some throwaway reference slightly earlier.

[@daraghokane4236]

I buy the idea that riddler changed his name to edward Nigma because his gimmic.

[@Lanier2369]

@@daraghokane4236 I buy it as well, but I don't care either way. I wouldn't mind if they kept Edward Nigma as his actual real name or if it was an assumed name. When you have crazy things in comics like people lifting up cars and running around the world a thousand times in a second and where there are other characters with goofy names that lead to what they are going to be, like Otto Octavious, one more character with a goofy real name isn't all that big to me. I don't really care either way ultimately tho so...

[@bibbyboxx2219]

It’s from Dennis O’Neil’s Question run in 1987.

[@loganwendigo937]

It originated from O'Neil's Question run, most Riddler fans dislike it

[@Lanier2369]

@@loganwendigo937 I don't care for it personally, but not as a riddler fan (tho I am) but as a fan of having characters with goofy names that have connection to what they'll become. I don't want to see it ALL the time, too much of a good thing gets tiresome after a while, but it's cool to see some characters with the outright goofy names that are connected to their gimmick.

[@BishopTDE]

Maybe weird but if I was making this movie and I casted the Tv Tim drake to be a jokerz gang member initiate, it would be to make a reference to The Batman Animated series and Batman Beyond second movie where it is revealed that Joker Beyond is an adult Tim drake. It was a fun accident by this movie, one I liked. the Half face would also make sense as the Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde storyline from the same animated movie. The two halves battling for supremacy, which is reminiscent of Two Face.

[@beyondxenoverse]

Fire

[@ThexAngryxPharoah]

Am i the only one that imagines Alfred at some point trying to litterally beat some sense into Bruce leading to an emotional turning point? Serkis can totally pull it off

[@alfonzoc_Father_Misfit_Batman]

👍

[@PurpleColonel]

This really should've been a Hush movie

[@bierguy3033]

Comment for algorithm.

[@javimendoza6966]

Don’t worry Benny I don’t think anyone cares that you wear the same shirt. Love you guys no Homo

[@hadeszero4526]

This relates to the movie. Ok I get that he is only 2 years in. But doesn't Bruce commit to training at like 10 years old and is probably 25-30 when we me him here. So he has 15-20 years of training behind him with the greatest masters of everything on earth. How the fuck did he not know Spanish? lol

[@avidplanes]

His training is extremely down played in the movie there is a prequel novel that basically says he traveled for a bit but the movie makes it seem like he learned 90% of it from Alfred