Evidence of the communication that I refer to in this video is below, just to be clear he has acknowledged that one debate will happen later in the year in london and agreed to the topic and structure (all his excuses have been sorted out including him wanting the money upfront): x.com/subboorahmad/status/1813496187481215454?s=46
@MJAli893 ай бұрын
Will the debate be live online as well if it does go forward.
@roguephysicist72633 ай бұрын
👍
@themastercheif3 ай бұрын
@@MJAli89 it definitely will be.
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
@@SubboorAhmadAbbasi Can someone quote what's said in the link? I can't see it here.
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
You didn't set up anything yet. We are all waiting for you now subboor since Dave accepted your challenge. The ball is in your hands
@John_Gillman17 күн бұрын
Me when i don't plan a debate and back out while claiming that the other person is a coward:
@user-my3qi8te2d6 күн бұрын
How do u know who backed out and who didnt . Isnt it just word of mouth then?
@John_Gillman6 күн бұрын
@@user-my3qi8te2d Prof Dave made a whole video about how they contacted him about 3 debates even though 1 was enough and they were in birmingham instead of london, after dave sent them an email about agreeing to debate they never responded back kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJabg5KhZc59frc&t
@ImranHussein3 ай бұрын
3 debates or 1, makes no difference. He is finished.
@ahmadinejad66663 ай бұрын
I expect you to be on the Q & A to deliver another K.O
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
He has over 3 million subscribers. He’s definitely not finished, unlike Subboor whose only claim to fame will be “the guy who debated Dave Farina”
@LEGENDARYN_MUSLIM3 ай бұрын
@@krishnaalister60103 million subscribers from basic educational videos but his views count on videos are very low for a 3m channel.
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
@@LEGENDARYN_MUSLIM 3.19M subscribers for educational videos vs 120k subscribers for outdated religious dogma. What does that tell you?
@ahmadinejad66663 ай бұрын
@@krishnaalister6010 it tells us that you believe that truth is democratic
@Sayf-ny8cb3 ай бұрын
May allah (swt) grant you tremendous success at the debate ameen.
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
Divine intervention is the only chance Subboor has at winning the debate.
@SyahidanIbnMokhtar3 ай бұрын
@@krishnaalister6010 are you triggered?
@Abdulhameed-eu3ve3 ай бұрын
This Krishna boy is under every comment, if you're not afraid of Subboor then why are you wasting so much time and energy in his comment section? Sounds afraid enough
@moneteezee3 ай бұрын
@@krishnaalister6010 damnnnnnn
@samosadosa24093 ай бұрын
@@krishnaalister6010 that might just be the greatest punchline i ever heard 😂
@profanotherletter43463 ай бұрын
professor davida runs like his ancestor fish never could
@salim4443 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 brutal
@markh10113 ай бұрын
_"professor davida runs "_ Do all Muslims lie as much as Subboors fans do? Dave publicly accepted the offer for a debate in London. He did this ages ago. Then Subboor started playing games.
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
No, he has agreed with the debate. Subboor simply altered the conditions without consulting him in the first place. Subboor promised him that they would have one debate in London, not three debates in Birmingham. Subboor has lied straight through his teeth.
@profanotherletter43463 ай бұрын
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 that's a cute comment. I hope your boyfriend davida sees it
@asnaismail72113 ай бұрын
Good one 😂
@justinumaran5647Ай бұрын
did you send prof. Dave an email yet? we're waiting
@1547biggiganticus3 ай бұрын
Not pigeon, chicken. Chicken, that’s what he called you. Bro you’re so offended you keep bringing up pigeons.
@Hzur25 күн бұрын
careful you don't choke yourself from having dave's meat far up your throat
@mr.leftieefn690110 күн бұрын
yeah it's disrespect for "Pigeons". I agree
@ahmadinejad66663 ай бұрын
Hats off to you Subboor i expect a calm and professionnal tone from you as usual and an opponent full of himself on the debate. May Allah make it a tremendous victory for the believers.
@Mmmmilo3 ай бұрын
“Calm and professional”, about a guy blatantly lying, calling people names and being disingenuous. Ok, buddy.
@cyberyousef75193 ай бұрын
@@Mmmmilo lil dave’s alt account is crazy
@Aurelyus2473 ай бұрын
Why doesn't 'Allah' make it a tremendous victory for the believers by appearing from the sky?
@ahmadinejad66663 ай бұрын
@@Aurelyus247 why the painter doesnt show his existence by appearing inside the painting
@Aurelyus2473 ай бұрын
@@ahmadinejad6666 I can see why you failed science.
@gongkong-oi7qx3 ай бұрын
It should have been 3debates rather than 1. Now the coward can just gish-gallop.
@SubboorAhmadAbbasi3 ай бұрын
I know
@The_King_of_Minecraft3 ай бұрын
You are right
@MJAli893 ай бұрын
Have that one debate with live audience. If he Gish gallops, then do another debate online for specific debate topics.
@ridhuan23353 ай бұрын
he will do it definitely. thats the only way he will give a "subhoor did not counter my argument" impressions. Rare for audience to check facts. the louder speaker will "win". i have seen his debate with Professor James Tour, a real professor
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
Firstly, Subboor initially promised Dave that they would have one debate in London, not three debates in Birmingham. Secondly, one debate is more than enough to address creationist drivel. Thirdly, did you know that the Gish gallop was named after creationist Duane Gish? It's much more likely for a creationist to provide unsubstantiated arguments than someone who supports scientific facts.
@TruRedCRIME3 ай бұрын
ive asked dave many times so show me this randomness he believes in. This fake mythical god he invokes, still waiting for him to display...
@moneteezee3 ай бұрын
Please, search for the evidence yourself. If you don't have the ability to research it simply because the topic is against your current beliefs, we are doomed. I don't mean to insult just to be clear, I just want to help people become more objective; how we reach the objective truth is through the scientific method. I hate to see people deny these facts, and dehumanize other people just because they disagree.
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
Learn how mutations and natural selection work. You're embarrassing yourself.
@generalpencil37473 ай бұрын
@@moneteezeenot for everything, maybe science can reach the objective truth of the behaviour of material stuff and how it works and how to utilize it but scientific evidence is still susceptible to change, that's the reason there's different theory in science for example newton vs Einstein theory of gravity, both have different but working model however both cannot be right because of the contradictions in their theory. Than there's also things such as moral value, what's right and what's wrong, justice and etc, so enlighten us how do you use scientific method to reach the objective truth of what's moral and immoral ?.
@markh10113 ай бұрын
@@generalpencil3747 Newton's laws that you're referring to are still right. They are approximations and have limitations. But they should still be used. They are not wrong.
@generalpencil37473 ай бұрын
@@markh1011 bro nowhere I said it's wrong and I even said it's a working model. I just said there's another theory that contradictory to newton law by Einstein that's also a working model, and no contradictions can both be objectively right or the truth. I just want to point out how scientific method cannot be used as method to reach objective truth for everything just because they come up with working model. And for which theory is objectively the truth or correct I don't know, because we cannot emperically see gravity we only have it's effects to come up with a working model and utilizes it for many things.
@randomman10843 ай бұрын
I have a feeling he will still find an excuse not to come ☠
@Alphaa1013 ай бұрын
Pigeon hearted person running
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
He accepted the debate already 3 months ago before subboor suddenly increased it to 3 so how is he running?
@Alphaa1013 ай бұрын
@@djaxx587 What's the problem with 3 debates? why he is running away?
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
@@Alphaa101 Being away from your family longer, 3 x preparing for the debate, 3x going to the venue, 3x debating, 3x going home, needing to sleep longer in a hotel. And we didn't even talk about the audience and staff that also needs to come 3 times. Plus, anyone who understands the topics knows you don't need 3 debates for that. So it's just a waste of money and time.
@Alphaa1013 ай бұрын
@@djaxx587 These are childish arguments subboor wanted a complete in-depth debates not one debate to just gish-gallop.
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
@@Alphaa101 Sure it's childish to point out everything has to be done 3 times while it could even simply be done in one. Just say it when you don't have a reply. Dave won't gish gallop don't worry. His replys will be based on peer reviewed scientific evidence as he always does. Subboor once called a friend for a scientific paper as evidence in a debate, he humiliated himself as his opponent caught that the conclusion of subboors paper went against his own claim. I don't worry for dave, more for subboor.
@tommymcdougall65633 ай бұрын
Dave is one of the only KZbinrs I literally can not watch a whole video of. 1. He talks over EVERYONE he debates with. Tell tale sign of a HORRENDOUS debater. 2. He's condescending, mean, and comes across as downright evil. 3. He name calls wayyyyy too much. 4. He always validates himself as if his truth is gospel. 5. He is never ever open to any opposing views. Like Anakin Skywalker, he is a true Sith, he only deals in absolutes. I can go on and on and on.......
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
Dave is merely refuting pseudoscientific nonsense. I don't like his abrasive personality either, but that doesn't mean that he should stay silent while charlatans and conspiracy theorists run their mouths and deceive millions of people.
@personalprofile19393 ай бұрын
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 but why is he running away from debating with Subboor
@MarkH-cu9zi3 ай бұрын
@@personalprofile1939 _"but why is he running away from debating with Subboor"_ He accepted Subboors offer of a debate in London.
@amirtjuh3 ай бұрын
@@MarkH-cu9zi His arguments wont change based on the location I suppose. What gives?
@MarkH-cu9zi3 ай бұрын
@@amirtjuh _"What gives?"_ What gives is that Dave doesn't want to spend two weeks away from his family. Subboor did this big song and dance about a trip to London for a debate and how Dave would be too scared to accept such a great offer. Dave accepted. Then Subboor started changing it and acting like the offer never happened... lol. Subboor knows that Dave doesn't want to go overseas for 2 weeks so he's using this to get out of it.
@UmfriendАй бұрын
Any updates?
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
So how far are you actually setting up the debate?
@yamiali17833 ай бұрын
Loving the purple suit brother
@1547biggiganticus3 ай бұрын
🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓 That’s you
@mr.leftieefn690110 күн бұрын
Atleast not a College kicked-out Pigeonfessor who pretends to be a "ScIeNcE ComMuNiCaToR" by reading out scripts aloud written by some dude working for him lol
@Adam-xs3ngАй бұрын
If you're so confident Subboor then go and debate him in America on his turf? By the way pigeons have amazing hearts that allow them to fly with tremendous endurance. Try hoping on a plane and put your money where your mouth is.
@YGSTAN06Ай бұрын
Mayb Dave should send the money back. Backing out was expected, not pit of the blue.
@Microcolnovka22 күн бұрын
@@YGSTAN06How do you know money was sent in a first place? Because this clown said so?
@themuhammadalifan86938 күн бұрын
@@MicrocolnovkaNo because your pigeonfessor is a topnotch Scaredy cat shooting arrows in the dark and waffling during the day
@jaouharaoul1683 ай бұрын
i hope you can get the money back if he still refuses to debate 😂
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
He didn't refuse but accepted. He is waiting for subboor to send enough money as he didn't send enough and to simply set it up. He said he will give the money back if subboor backs out.
@YGSTAN06Ай бұрын
He wasn't send enough 😂 princess Dave should jump at this opportunity but isnt satisfied with the amount of money he was send. Bro wanted some pocket money for his humiliation
@djaxx587Ай бұрын
@@YGSTAN06 No he just wants what subboor promissed him and doesn't want to spend his own money since subboor challenged him and not the other way around. Pretty logical.
@nofilkhan40493 ай бұрын
Can the public turn up to watch the debate? If so, please can someone confirm. Thank you
@libanali85623 ай бұрын
He’s an expert in acting like a child. Lol
@ELMlKO3 ай бұрын
I wouldve loved to see 3 debates cuz that would be more informative to me and everyone else
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
3 debates about topics that can easily be discussed in one debate. Why waste time and money?
@dadush43 ай бұрын
@@djaxx587 waste time and money??? Why hold even one debate??? Why give them food or water?? Why read books???? Let s just stop existing altogether. What a stupid remark.
@markh10113 ай бұрын
@@dadush4 _"Why hold even one debate??"_ You seem unaware that debates happen all the time. In fact it's common to do a single debate. In fact that's what Subboor originally offered.
@dadush43 ай бұрын
@@markh1011 yeah but let s save time and money right??? That seems to be the best course of actio according to you. Let s avoid debates altogether. Because god forbid we have 3 debates 💀
@markh10113 ай бұрын
@@dadush4 _" yeah but let s save time and money right???"_ What are you even talking about? Is there something wrong with you?
@Umfriend13 күн бұрын
It's November...
@omee13283 ай бұрын
May ALLAH reward you
@shijilmuhammedk53113 ай бұрын
I see no pigeon fans here in the comment section. Where are they 😂😂
@themuhammadalifan86933 ай бұрын
We have to wait and they'll come in a flow😂😂😂
@YGSTAN06Ай бұрын
Ohh they're here😂
@YGSTAN06Ай бұрын
They said princess Dave wasn't satisfied with the funds that were send so that is a dealbreaker.😂 I'm shocked but not😅
@billymanilliАй бұрын
probably get their comments deleted... or they figure "why waste their time debating with fools who believe fairy tales?"
@shijilmuhammedk5311Ай бұрын
@@YGSTAN06 They're here 🤣🤣🤣
@MJAli893 ай бұрын
Dave should not back out from this debate now with this offer.
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
Obviously not! This was the initial offer, which Subboor suddenly changed without consulting Dave. Subboor should apologise for his dishonest tactics.
@markh10113 ай бұрын
_"Dave should not back out from this debate now with this offer."_ Dave already accepted the first offer which was a debate in London. Subboor backed out of that and started playing games, acting as if the offer never happened....
@0OmerErgun03 ай бұрын
@@markh1011where is that offer are you talking about? Can you show it to me, or are you lying blatantly
@markh10113 ай бұрын
@@0OmerErgun0 _"where is that offer are you talking about?"_ Watch the Muslim Lantern where they respond to a video of Dave's and dare him to take up their offer.
@0OmerErgun03 ай бұрын
@@markh1011 I have watched all the wideos related to this topic from beginning to end and didnt hear anything about 1 debate. Show me the title and the time stamp of that video
@backerthehacker37003 ай бұрын
That suit is mad bruv 🔥
@NoureddineAteur2 ай бұрын
If there is a debate he is gonna eat you
@SayfumaniMyGАй бұрын
Thats why he chickened out...
@ElLgante3 ай бұрын
I wonder what excuse failed musician Dave is going to pull out this time.
@murishal3 ай бұрын
Can you explain what does failed musician mean? I am waiting.
@amirtjuh3 ай бұрын
@@murishal It's quite self explanatory. If you require an explanation for this one I have bad news for you.
@ElLgante3 ай бұрын
@@murishal amirtjuh already did, but if you still want and explanation here it is: Someone that tried to make a music career and failed miserably, just like mr. Failrina did.
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
@@ElLganteIt's simply someone who can play an instrument though. Dave can play an instrument so he is a musician. Not sure why you guys try to take anything to slander him instead of debunking his video's or claims.
@ElLgante3 ай бұрын
@@djaxx587 If he couldn't play an instrument, then he wouldn't be a musician, but since he can and did try to make a career and failed, he IS a failed musician. It's a bit lame that you are defending him there when that's a fact. Now, I do think evolution happened and the theory as such is a great explanatory model. However, as any theory it needs to be examined in order to improve and account for all the data, or be discarded if it fails to do so. This debate should throw some light to the subject, Dave shouldn't be scared as he is.
@TheDragonaf13 ай бұрын
Again saying that UoB is not prestigious BURNS my blood. When the biology department (especially mathematical biology) is way more famous than any London uni which is more famous for finance stuff.
@vetoedimpersonator4478Ай бұрын
eh. ucl is 6th in the world. and i go there..
@sjl19716 күн бұрын
Two of the debates were scheduled at Aston. Whilst I’ll gladly accept Bham Uni as prestigious, Aston is far from that in calibre. That said, if you think that biology in Birmingham is more famous than any in London, the yes, UcL is more renowned in many aspects, so is Imperial as part of Univ. London. I willingly say those things as a brummie who chose to study biology in London rather than any in Birmingham.
@Ro-Ghost3 ай бұрын
You calling others a man child while getting defensive because clearly he hurt your feelings is funny
@cuttru80413 ай бұрын
Dave is a man child. You go on his channel and make a comment disagreeing with him, and he'll hurl out insults like an immature teenager.
@saidmohammad40273 ай бұрын
he came to be humiliated, giving in a little wasn't a bad thing😂
@soulstice993 ай бұрын
Took the money and ran!
@sjl19716 күн бұрын
Well done for comment where you know nothing on the issue
@Crowbars22 ай бұрын
It's pretty rich that you're calling Dave a coward when you're the one who tried to back out of the debate. You literally said the following _"And so I’m gonna offer him fully paid trip to the UK, hotels, flights, everything covered, anything else that he wants covered will be covered inshallah, for a debate on “Is Darwinian Evolution a Fact”, and “Is Intelligent Design Science”"_ This is what *you* said that *you* would do. Saying that Dave is a coward because you won't pay for his flight, hotel etc. like you said you would is pretty disingenuous isn't it?
@aymaniq72363 ай бұрын
Man we wanted 3 debates why did you let him escape
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
Oh, please. Subboor was the one who promised Dave that they would have one debate in London, not three in Birmingham. Subboor was dishonest and conniving in his tactics.
@aymaniq72363 ай бұрын
I saw tweets from Sabour who wanted 3 debates + gave Dave 3 different times and places while Dave chose to have an online debate and made excuses about his family and the place + Sabour rejected Dave's offer to have an online debate. Sabour doesn't want a weak online debate...Sabour is the one who does all the work while Dave is the one who makes excuses and arguments. And holding a specific debate anywhere in the world is very difficult. @@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440
@markh10113 ай бұрын
@@aymaniq7236 _"I saw tweets from Sabour who wanted 3 debates + gave Dave 3 different times"_ The original offer from Subboor was one debate in London which Dave instantly accepted. Then Subboor waited a while and started changing things, acting as if that offer never happened. _"And holding a specific debate anywhere in the world is very difficult. "_ Oh give me a break. Subboor made the offer. Then he joked and puffed his chest about how Dave wouldn't accept such a great offer. He did though. Dave will have an online debate.... but Subboor is running from that too.
@sabdulrahmanshaikh16213 ай бұрын
Excuses ....Dave lost even before the debate started...give ME a break....Dave is a coward and doesn't wanna agree...so shu up u coward atheist@@markh1011 btw.. the offer wasn't iNsTaNtLy AcCePtEd by Dave....he just said he did but didn't tell it to suboor...the joke is you believing that liars words
@MarkH-cu9zi3 ай бұрын
@@sabdulrahmanshaikh1621 _"Dave is a coward and doesn't wanna agree"_ He did agree. He agreed to the original offer. He did in a video ages ago. _"he just said he did but didn't tell it to suboor."_ He did a response video directed as Subboor and told him to email him the money and details. Subboor had made no contact with him at that point. _"the joke is you believing that liars words"_ lol... it's there on youtube for anyone to see. These excuses you guys come up with are hilarious.
@djaxx587Ай бұрын
It's october subboor. Everyone can see the chicken you are.
@SaadMuslim203 ай бұрын
May Allah bless you Brother
@stayaz87893 ай бұрын
Love you brother Saboor
@mrsaluyt3 ай бұрын
I expect he'll run away from this too
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
No, he was the one who demanded that Subboor should stop beating around the bush and send him an email. Subboor promised Dave that they would have one debate in London, not three in Birmingham. Subboor is simply dishonest.
@murishal3 ай бұрын
When did he run away before?
@0OmerErgun03 ай бұрын
@@murishalHe did from 3 debate in Birmingham Uni, even tough its Hard to set up a debate in a university
@markh10113 ай бұрын
@@0OmerErgun0 _"He did from 3 debate in Birmingham Uni,"_ Dave accepted the original offer of a debate in London. Then Subboor changed the offer and tried to act like that offer never happened. Suboor has been playing games to try and get out of it.
@0OmerErgun03 ай бұрын
@@markh1011 Where is that original offer are you blabbering about in every comment? Show it so that I can believe you. Also if you are 100% sure of your claims you will be more willing to accept 3 debates instead of 1 even if the 1 was the original
@chromerevolver58542 ай бұрын
THIS HAS TO HAPPEN!!!! DONT STOP TRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights3 ай бұрын
August: give me the money NOW Okay thanks, see you in 4 months (not)
@ogenteng3 ай бұрын
BaarokaAllah
@EAGLE29-TIME3 ай бұрын
Kepp that receipt, he might get a belly ache and fear of fight.
@Abdulhameed-eu3ve3 ай бұрын
But we want 3 debates☹️
@MohamedFahmy-pk1yx3 ай бұрын
I pray for you to show how much of fraud he is, but I don't think it was the wisest decision to make it one debate, I get that you have got no other choice, but you could've only made it in London and waited for his respond. If he still denied then he would've made himself look even worse and worse.
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
Subboor promised Dave that they would have one debate in London, not three in Birmingham. Subboor is merely conceding because Dave called out his conniving tactics. This was the original offer, buddy. Look at Dave's video for a more nuanced perspective on the issue.
@amirtjuh3 ай бұрын
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 Dave should be able to handle 3 "debates". No genuine person that has dave's arrogance should ever find the need to hide behind such lousy excuses. The number of "debates" or the location of the debate should have no bearing on the contents and validity of his premise.
@The_King_of_Minecraft3 ай бұрын
@@amirtjuh Subboor initially promised Dave that they would have two debate, not one. weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 is lying
@amirtjuh3 ай бұрын
@@The_King_of_Minecraft even if he initially said one, what is dave afraid of? He can finally lay the creationism vs evolution debate to rest with his big brain. Anyone with an ounce of honesty can figure out how ignorant dave is. He literally referred to literature that opposed his stance claiming it supported his premise. Dave inhabits the primary peak in dunning kruger’s curve.
@The_King_of_Minecraft3 ай бұрын
@@amirtjuh I am on Subboor Ahmad's side, not Dave's side. I was just telling you that weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 is lying
@sub7se7en3 ай бұрын
May Allah give you success and expose this so called "professor"
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
May you realise that evolution is a fact.
@sub7se7en3 ай бұрын
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 We already know evolution exists. What we don't know is the evolution of one species to another over any amount of time. There is 0 scientific evidence for this.
@sub7se7en3 ай бұрын
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 I already know that. What isn't a fact is the evolution of species from one to another. No scientific evidence for that
@meliora993 ай бұрын
@@sub7se7en species occur because evolution occurs over large periods of time. That's literally it, it's primary school logic
@sub7se7en3 ай бұрын
@@meliora99 That's a non-sequitur. It doesn't necessitate that because there are changes that these changes will result in new species over long enough time. There's no scientific evidence for speciation. It's just an assumption based on the very limited data. That doesn't make it true.
@rezasupardi21393 ай бұрын
Tbh this was a waste of time in my opinion, because if he was so sure about his position and cared about the truth he would've jumped at the chance to expose you in front of a live audience. And I watched abit of his video refuting you, and it sounded to me like he was being a Karen, and wineing.
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
Oh, please. It is extremely easy to refute the nonsense of Subboor and other creationists, but you simply dismiss scientific facts which contradict your dogmatic beliefs.
@rezasupardi21393 ай бұрын
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 I agree it is easy to refute Subboor..behind a computer screen. Thats good, in this case if Dave has the facts and they were 100%, he should of accepted and exposed brother Subbor and tarnish his academic creadibility. It begs the question, why did he refuse?
@moneteezee3 ай бұрын
Simple answer: He didn't refuse. Long answer: He didn't refuse, he accepted, and these people weren't conversing with him well when it comes to planning the debates.
@moneteezee3 ай бұрын
The way he sounded to you was probably because he drank scotch while recording that video. lol
@0OmerErgun03 ай бұрын
@@moneteezeeBro if you are 100% sure about your arguments you will accept 3 debate over 1 even if the 1 is first agreed upon
@think-islam-channel3 ай бұрын
Will he take the money and run?
@jethrosheikh69943 ай бұрын
Evolution is your thing, to him is an extra thing, the only reason he can assume he can win is his arrogance that him being an atheist makes him automatically more knowledgable and smarter than theists. He is in for a show.
@moneteezee3 ай бұрын
He will win because evolution is backed by scientific evidence, which subboor can't address and he avoids addressing it with a variety of erroneous arguments against science; that way he can distance himself from facts by manipulating himself and others with palpably terrible arguments he was indoctrinated with. Atheism or theism has nothing to do with it, those are just two unsubstantiated beliefs.
@boogus16703 ай бұрын
@@moneteezeeif you genuinely believe there’s no scientific evidence AGAINST the atheistic theory of evolution than you’re merely succumbing mentally to cognitive biases
@bighairyviking3873 ай бұрын
@@boogus1670 atheism has nothing to do with the theory of evolution.
@طارق-طلال3 ай бұрын
@@moneteezee Thanks you for those many baseless opinions but stuffing bunch of them in one comment wouldn't make them any more credible lol
@moneteezee3 ай бұрын
@boogus1670 There exists no scientific evidence supporting theism. Learn what scientific evidence is, and then, if you still reject this claim, I'd like to hear some scientific evidence. Edit: I glanced at your comment previously, but it turns out you were referring to the "atheistic theory of evolution," which is utterly hysterical, I don't even need to address that comment.
@asharabalamgir29803 ай бұрын
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@SyahidanIbnMokhtar3 ай бұрын
Akhi, he received the money upfront? If he didn't go, then we know that charlatan dave is dishonest, this shows the weakness of his position, and tgat the fact that pigeon hearted person will always run.
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
And if he does participate in the debate, does your opinion change?
@SyahidanIbnMokhtar3 ай бұрын
@@krishnaalister6010 my opinion on what, specifically?
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
@@SyahidanIbnMokhtar you said that if Dave “didn’t go, then we know that charlatan Dave is dishonest, this shows weakness of his position, and that the fact that pigeon hearted person will always run”. If Dave does the debate, wouldn’t that have to change your opinion?
@SyahidanIbnMokhtar3 ай бұрын
@@krishnaalister6010 individual points or the entire quote?
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
@@SyahidanIbnMokhtar any of it
@asharabalamgir29803 ай бұрын
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@sushilsuryawanshi54133 ай бұрын
Bro believe me you can never win a debate on evolution with any scientist
@sjl19716 күн бұрын
Perhaps you shouldn’t use an intermediary organisation to email him a just a couple of months before three fixed dates in a place of their/your choosing without any awareness or allowance of his timeline or preferences. See his own reply video
@tahasiddiqui21483 ай бұрын
prof wins and it wont even be close
@killerbee64843 ай бұрын
Like he did in james tour when he humiliated himself
@justinumaran5647Ай бұрын
@@killerbee6484 did you watch the debate? or are you just dumb and blind? james tour acted and almost cried like a fckin child because he couldn't rebut prof Dave.
@snow24121Ай бұрын
@@killerbee6484Yes James Tour humiliated himself a lot you are right
@darkhanomirzakov589Ай бұрын
@@killerbee6484 you can't be serious about comparing Tour, who is an accomplished academic (though a fraud), to a guy who doesn't even understand ninth-grade biology.
@mr.leftieefn690110 күн бұрын
@@snow24121 Daviee did all the crying and name-calling while James did his homework
@GamingWorld-c9u2 ай бұрын
He behaves like a child
@saadm57323 ай бұрын
probs gonna run with the money now
@zohaibmaqbool3 ай бұрын
Don’t give him the money directly. If he doesn’t trust you then the most you can do is buy the tickets online and similarly make the other bookings e.g., hotel room etc yourself online.
@user-ev8lv2rk8i3 ай бұрын
Dressed like a magician
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
More like a con artist.
@mohamedalahmadani51743 ай бұрын
He can’t run now, get him Subboor 😂
@MoodJay3 ай бұрын
Brother subboor, People with brain cells know how this is going to end whether it is 3 or 1 debate. In addition you can still pose the questions you wanted to use against him during those 3 debates and call.him out when he doesnt answer
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
Oh, please. Creationists' "questions" don't have any validity.
@generalpencil37473 ай бұрын
@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 bro for all we know evolution is a method of creation, how do you supposed all living things evolve to get their shape and form to be precise and perfect. And most important of all where the hell the first DNA or RNA and whatever genetic information in it come from anyway ?
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
@@generalpencil3747 No, evolution demolishes any idea about creation. It explains the emergence of novel body plans through mutation-selection mechanisms. The first genetic material emerged from a co-evolutionary process that linked RNA, the first nucleic acid, to protein folding. No god is required to explain this.
Yeah right, Dave who debates academics like dr tour is so scared for a youtuber that has 0 credentials. And that makes sense to you? He even offered to do it online but subboor is to scared.
@groamersglasses79223 ай бұрын
@@djaxx587 lol.. Prof Daves buzzer here? What a poor life u have mate..
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
@@groamersglasses7922 You are here commenting on yt for a guy with 0 credentials. If my life is poor than yours is even worse.
@groamersglasses79223 ай бұрын
@@djaxx587 lol.. You do not even know me mate, what an arrogant person you are.. But just keep doing your job, they need people like u u know.. like NPC, just say whatever ur master told u, unfortunately ur master is a cow*rd..
@MarkH-cu9zi3 ай бұрын
@@groamersglasses7922 _"whatever ur master told u, "_ Subboor fans don't even see the irony when they squeal lines like this....
@koinpusher3 ай бұрын
Dude ...
@amsakkejha38273 ай бұрын
You will be humiliated little davey boy
@antreasAnimations2 ай бұрын
Dave will destroy you
@Microcolnovka22 күн бұрын
As always, not a single screenshot presented. Not a single word in your video is truthful, prove me wrong
@Normalguy2121 күн бұрын
Did u even look at the pinned comment. Don't make yourself fool
@truelies54313 ай бұрын
Let's gooooo
@RANDOMSANDWICHGUY3 ай бұрын
Congrats you just paid 2000$ to get humiliated in a debate you will lose. 😊🎉🎉🎉
@robiatulshukree3 ай бұрын
You can’t even predict what’s happening tomorrow. How can you be so sure of the debate outcome. 🤔
@RANDOMSANDWICHGUY3 ай бұрын
@@robiatulshukree Well I know a fair bit about evolution and I have known Subboor and Dave's content for years. The knowledge gap between the two is so huge I know Subboor has no chance against Dave. It will be a repeat of the Aron Ra debate, except probably even worse for Subboor.
@gildartsclive90033 ай бұрын
@@RANDOMSANDWICHGUY sorry but aron ra was humiliated by subboor
@RANDOMSANDWICHGUY3 ай бұрын
@@gildartsclive9003 Really? Name one good argument from subboor that aron didn't refute instantly. I'll wait.
@iplay83483 ай бұрын
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@hk__12353 ай бұрын
I think Regressor Dave is actually Richarlison from Spurs.
@zahirshah9653 ай бұрын
Good
@canusapak75353 ай бұрын
Oh wait you are a Joker 😂
@gentleman72703 ай бұрын
You are a blind worshiper of your demi God dave
@Friday..1.73 ай бұрын
@@KZbin.surferr I doubt he knows which one of his mothers conquests is his actual daddy
@mr.leftieefn690110 күн бұрын
says follower of a dumb circusman who calls himself "ScIeNcE CoMmooNiCaTer" while reading scripts written by some dude working 4 him
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
“He’s not worth my time” after you literally paid him to fly overseas to participate in a debate that YOU called for. 🤦🏼♂️
@Youtube.surferr3 ай бұрын
16108 wives Krishna is interested in debate!! Hmm nice 😂
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
@@chantjelly6773 and Subboor wanted 3 debates with someone apparently not worth his time. If Dave was worth his time, does this mean he’d block out all of 2025 just for Dave!?
@krishnaalister60103 ай бұрын
@@KZbin.surferr all you got is a jibe at my birth name?
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
@@snowstreams7503 Not only is that a disturbing metaphor, but it also demonstrates your dishonesty. Subboor's initial offer was for them to have one debate in London, not three in Birmingham.
@weltschmerzistofthaufig24403 ай бұрын
@@KZbin.surferr Insulting someone's name doesn't make you seem cool, buddy.
@markh10113 ай бұрын
"Is he going to back out" - *He already accepted* an offer for a debate in London. Then YOU started changing it to try and get out of it.
@aaaaaaaaaaaa90233 ай бұрын
Bro he literally pinned the email transcripts and conversations between them. You're quoting old news. Dave accepted the offer initially, but when given a formal invitation via the university institution, he backs out.
@markh10113 ай бұрын
@@aaaaaaaaaaaa9023 _"Dave accepted the offer initially, but when given a formal invitation via the university institution, he backs out"_ You're lying like Subboor does. Dave accepted an offer for a debate in London. Subboor was cornered then so he changed it and pretended the first offer didn't exist. He changed it to somewhere else over 2 weeks knowing that Dave doesn't want to leave his family for long. He changed it to try and get out of it. Now he's acting as if a single debate was Dave's idea when it was *his offer.*
@Ben-re5fx3 ай бұрын
No, He mentioned a debate in London in his first response video with the Muslim Lantern, he said a few debates in London (he mentioned 2 if i'm not mistaken), it was not yet an offer back then, to which that swearing idiot made a rant about and said he is willing to get paid and travel to London. Subbor later finally offered 3 debates in Birmingham and Dave had a problem with that, so it's now 1 in London. Go watch the full video that was uploaded, the first official offer, that wasn't just plans or speculation, was 3 debates in Birmingham. Dave just made a video response right away to force him into actually paying for his London trip, he wasn't accepting the offer cause it wasn't yet even proposed. If you haven't watched the entire original response to Dave and only watched Dave's response, you shouldn't be commenting at all. EDIT: Subbor said something like: I want to debate this guy in person, we gonna do "he said a debate title" and we gonna do "he said a debate title", then he spoke for 10mins how he wants the debate in person cause he saw the other debate Farina did and believed he did a poor job. As you can see, it's "I want to" and "I was thinking" not, "I have already made all the arrangements and set everything into place, we doing this, i have sent the official challenge" in his original response with the Muslim Lantern. Again, thr first official offer was 3 debates in Birmingham. @@markh1011
@vahidrezaroohian35943 ай бұрын
@@markh1011 assuming what you said is true he's going to accept it now. right?
@markh10113 ай бұрын
@@Ben-re5fx _"He mentioned a debate in London in his first response video with the Muslim Lantern, he said a few debates in London (he mentioned 2 if i'm not mistaken)"_ Over and over he said 'a debate' or 'a discussion' in that video. At one point he mentioned 2 topics and two debates in front of an audience but it certainly sounded like a single debate the whole time. _" Subbor later finally offered 3 debates"_ AFTER Dave had accepted a debate in London! The thing is, not only did he give this offer, he went on and on laughing about how Dave wouldn't accept it..... Yet when Dave did, Subboor acted like the offer never happened. _"he wasn't accepting the offer cause it wasn't yet even proposed."_ It WAS preposed clearly in a video and Dave WAS accepting it. _" If you haven't watched the entire original response to Dave"_ I have watched the Muslim Lantern video which is why I can correct your errors.
@khursani83 ай бұрын
Watched his video, the only thing he keep on repeating you did not email him
@ignaciosavi77393 ай бұрын
Have you got the proof of payment for his travels to London?
@طارق-طلال3 ай бұрын
This question is only relevant if he denied receiving payment otherwise you are only exposing how desperately you are trying to find something to cry about and man it's funny to watch
@SubboorAhmadAbbasi3 ай бұрын
see the email it shows proof of payment
@ignaciosavi77393 ай бұрын
@@SubboorAhmadAbbasi ok exited for the debate
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
@@SubboorAhmadAbbasiThe emails won't show. Why don't you quote it or post it here on yt?
@katarinakalasova4942 ай бұрын
You are a chicken that is running like crazy
@dadush43 ай бұрын
he wanted money up front?? you do realize that's the atheist god, once he has god, he wont care about you anymore..
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
@@dadush4 So If I challenge you to a Debate in New york, instead of me paying you upfront so you can buy tickets and arrange a hotel, should you pay everything in hopes I pay you back?
@dadush43 ай бұрын
@@djaxx587 yes. It s how business transactions in services usually go. You get the service and then you pay. Maybe not where you re from, but in the west yes. You can ask for an advance which is reasonable as you said for airplane etc. But that s not what I understood here. I might be wrong though!!
@dadush43 ай бұрын
@@djaxx587 did my last reply come through?
@djaxx5873 ай бұрын
@@dadush4What the heck? This is a challenge not a business driven service. Subboor challenged the guy. Dave didn't ask for the debate nor did he challenge subboor. Sorry but no one would pay 2000 dollars upfront for a challenge and just hopes he gets it back.