Ace Combat Zero: Proof of Cipher's Landing

[@stealthSGMB]

I always knew he landed, but due to graphical limitations of the time it actually does kind of look like he disappears

[@BlackhoundOne]

Honestly I think it fits better dramatically. It was probably intentional

[@Jusuff]

@@BlackhoundOne yeah. What's the point of talking about his disappearance if you can clearly see him land

[@funnyvalentine4078]

I didn't know there was people who thought cipher didn't land

[@acewyvern3489]

i always thought he did land and then he vanished like a ghost or "disappeared", lik ein a symbolical thing

[@retrovisor]

considering what the dialog implies, and the feathers being blow into screen, its clearly meant as a symbolic nebulous end of story

[@ArifxDD]

Ikr when I first play it I thought he land a little bit faster and I blink for a few seconds. Never knew he kinda disappeared

[@interstellardragonet8705]

I was about to say that the cutscene held some sort of “deeper” meaning, like how Cipher was just about to land on the runway, and once the camera tries to track the jet, the jet was gone, seeing as it was tied to when the Journalist mentions how in just a few short months Cipher just seemingly phased out of existence, giving the idea of him being this mysterious pilot, a demon that struck fear and admiration to all would just appear one day, turn a losing war into their own playground, then disappear for god-knows how long, never to be seen again. And then this cutscene came along and said “sup” but it’s still damn cool.

[@Jusuff]

It was the journalist who mentioned that Cipher disappeared a few months after the war's end, not Pixy

[@interstellardragonet8705]

@@Jusuff I might've written it wrong, letme recheck and re-edit, thanks for the notice!

[@elijahlewis3509]

what if Cipher makes a return in Ace Combat 8

[@interstellardragonet8705]

That would be funny but it'd be even funnier if they pulled out Mobius-1 back from retirement once more.

[@lethall6609]

@@elijahlewis3509 that would be liiittttttt

[@ImmaLittlePip]

I like to imagine Cipher made so much money from the war he retired and is living well

[@thefederalrepublicoferusea3900]

Makes sense.

[@Clockhead.Danteh]

That would make a great sense of a Retired Mercenary's life.

[@Maba-lg3og]

@@Clockhead.Danteh Cipher probably not retired the regret after killing his former wingman makes him never return to sky

[@Clockhead.Danteh]

@@Maba-lg3og well, yeah. Since they both were like bros vibing around.

[@ImmaLittlePip]

@Casshern Fate wasn't them because someone named yellow 13 also took part in that mission but he died in ac4

[@riteshdas9036]

Cipher became the head of an organization known as the Patriots or something

[@astra00700]

The La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo?

[@znspyder]

Cipher probably became phoenix considering how he pays wingmen to accompany him on missions

[@Iffy350]

Cipher: Why oh why didn’t I take the blue pill.

[@DaveandhisDeathbeanie]

@@Iffy350 a pilot that loves steak? I can't blame him.

[@istalo1]

​@@znspyder No, Phoenix is an entirely different character, proof of it is that the Skully Islands Incident happened concurrent to the Belkan War in 1995 but in a different part of Strangereal. Although they do share some similarities, both are/were mercenaries in the conflicts they fought Cipher actually had closer ties to the Ustio Air Force, Phoenix on the other hand did not have anything like it as far as I'm aware.

[@KAlZER0]

My man just zipped through the entire runway in two seconds

[@ROBOHOLIC1]

Mute Pilots just built different

[@defaulted9485]

Ill be honest, most AC Players did speed up the landing process this way (and crashed eventually)

[@fajareraim6136]

And after 4years some people commenting it few months ago....great...this is one of the best AC in the series

[@Kiluwastrife]

well I've just watch this today... so...

[@sentauri43]

Oh, wow. All these years I've always thought he disappeared along with his plane. Bit hard to see on a CRT TV

[@FarmYardGaming]

probably harder still on a 1080p TV when this is doing 240

[@CallsignAegis]

And then Zoe was never seen again

[@Givelasagna]

Wow didn't even know he landed. I still like the idea that he disappeared after landing since that's what happened a few months after the war, seems more symbolism that way

[@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775]

It was clearly visible from the start the thing is...it's difficult to see when you use anything other than the falken or the morgan because compared to these 2 the other planes in ACZ are dwarfs

[@carlosarguinarena105]

My autism only allows me to use the F-15C :(

[@pennywise9081]

Exactly, the Falken and Morgan are both 24 meters length wise, nothing else comes close

[@WonkyTonkBotty]

XFA-33 Fenrir/GAF-1 Varcolac: Allow us to introduce ourselves in Ace Combat X/JA.@@pennywise9081

[@OneWingedKing]

Cipher. Where did you hide the ADF-01 that you stole- CIPHER.

[@jupiterbjy]

Kinda reminds me spending 4 days in akihabara to find the discontinued ADF-01 plamodel around 2017, sadly couldn't find one. He surely hid it well!

[@toonistiny]

"His presence filled the skies for but a few short months before he disappeared." People took that a bit too seriously. I can see why, though.

[@blueblack2479]

Cipher Appears As Zoe in Usea Continent While David Hartmann Ibis building Stonehenge Project

[@enclavehere.7995]

I guess with the combination of graphic limitations at the time AND the narration implying that no one knows what happened to him, it made it seem like he just kept flying.

[@mpcrauzer]

Cipher never desapeared, hes Just sleeping until the other shards need him again

[@anarchicpancake2840]

i believe he landed and just went back to normal life after the war, but many people only knew about the legend, the demon lord of the round table, the plane and such, and didn't know much about the man himself who flew it, and will never know, a seperation of the man and the legend

[@cloudmangalm03]

Cipher confirmed to become a ruthless Artificial intelligence boi after the war

[@CPS42069]

LMAO

[@whereismycup]

Nemo?

[@cloudmangalm03]

@@whereismycup >:)

[@hutaoonhigh7201]

If only he returns again in future ace combat game, that would be so nostalgic

[@alfalanceer17015]

recently bought this game, my first ace combat game, loving it so far, im on mission 11 or 12 i dont remember

[@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange]

Good choice, try 5 and 4 for sure as well

[@alexfranz817]

I wish my copy didnt have 2 missions I cant load

[@alexfranz817]

Did you ever get a chance to play the other classics of the series?

[@alfalanceer17015]

@@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange oh well how do i get through valley of kings 😭

[@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange]

@@alfalanceer17015 Use a fast plane with QAAM or SAAM weapons, then race through the first section entirely focused on getting through without getting shot up. Once you reach the towers and dam, shoot the towers while dancing ribbons at the edge of your missile fire distance. Shoot the extra planes that come in if you want an S, and go nice and slow when you start the tunnel run to the objective. Missiles are your friends, and so is firing as fast as you can at anything that pops up.

[@neutralprofit7699]

Only ace combat can make jets looks like an anime

[@WEC_Connoiseur]

Cipher "died"tho we all know he retired or probably went back on duty to conduct operations in Estovakia

[@HMSVanguard46]

Best ace pilot talisman!

[@Murazan24]

That unsubbed audio file

[@M.F.Hafizhan]

He was hired to help quell an uprising on the scully islands

[@akbarrazqa27]

"Galm One, do you read me? Shoot down the enemy ace and your reward will be multiplied by ten!"

[@verticalflyingb737]

@@akbarrazqa27 If that thing is canon then that means Talisman is stronger than Cipher

[@teatanks6481]

honestly, it'd probably be a bit too on the nose for symbolism if he literally did disappear in the next frame. Still a great story, hope we can get a remaster one day.

[@kevinhatcher3765]

Huh, interesting

[@jupiterbjy]

years ago someone argued that I didn't even played game to not know ciper 'disappear' when landing, so I used this as proof. Maybe that player never played long enough to get ADF-01 - I agree it would be hard to see in F-15C on actual PS2.

[@aaroniousairlines9949]

@@jupiterbjy It was very hard to see on PS2. I thought for a long time that Cipher "disappeared", which I thought was more dramatic though

[@jupiterbjy]

@@aaroniousairlines9949 Well, so do I - until I got to fly that thicc and bright red plane haha

[@TheGamingKiller242]

@@jupiterbjy I really thought he did for the longest time. I actually think it's a huge missed oppurtunity he doesn't. Perhaps you could make the argument he fades into the background, but it would've been more thematically, and metaphorically appropriate had he disappeared.

[@Z_Berkut]

He disappeared in a realistic way = resign from the Ustio Air Force or the Belkan Nationalists will hunt his head.

[@Pixy44Chiper]

I'm crying

[@qiye3304]

Ok but how about talking about this guy using FAEB to fight Pixy

[@jupiterbjy]

Straight run from Dam attack without failing mission, so I was carrying FAEB - Pixy can be beaten easily with normal msl by fighting entirely with head-ons! Just it could take more time than using QAAMs tho, here's how I get him: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amHUe4dnmNJglcU

[@qiye3304]

@@jupiterbjy Ohhh i thought you were playing free mission for a moment, it's just hilarious seeing someone use FAEB to fight Pixy. Cheers

[@Superdeath25]

I always figured he retired with his money in 1996 and went to live in luxury somewhere. Being that mercenaries are foreign soldiers who serve for pay, he would have been able to leave after the war ended as there was no longer a need for his services

[@belkan1661]

Wtf all these years i don't know chiper is actually land i thought he was disappear after his landing gear touched the runway cuz he's a "Demon"

[@KAlZER0]

Man landed so fast he probably hit the mountain in the distance

[@tiagopatricio3805]

Of course he landed, but they spent the whole game descibing him as somekind of otherworldly Demon (Even if you follow the knight path) and so they decided to make him disappear in the landing scene to underline his demonic presence and abilities... He went down (or up) to earth, saved the world and then returned to his realm, his mission fulfilled, never to be seen, heard or talked about again!!! And then there is the more humane option: They don't show the rest of the landing because no one knows what happened with him afterwards... The man was betrayed by his best friend, lost two teammates, fought and won what was, in fact, a Nuclear war, so imagine the atrocities he witnessed during that time, hell that was the reason Pixy betrayed him, so of course Cipher retired and disappeared because if he had kept piloting he would have had to kill more and, yes, that would have made him more accomplished than any other AC MC, but, by then he would, in fact be a new Mihaly... So, Demon or not, he and Blaze were the most human of all AC MC's, they retired!!!!

[@aldraone-mu5yg]

It is hypothetically possible that cipher went on to be the protagonist of every game set after.

[@thanak.2419]

He not disappearead, he just selling he's ps2 away...

[@jupiterbjy]

hahaha! that makes sense, rip to my ps2 slim too,

[@Hayan_Yeou]

I always thought he landed without a problem. It's just that PS2's resolution was potato and the TVs we used were not high res either. But the narration kinda made you to believe that he disappeared into thin air.

[@harrythedirty4256]

I just assumed he used the parachute

[@cipher-g5f]

Maybe bandai namco expected that graphic issue so they used camara angle and pixy's conversation let the gamers think that cipher just disappered to the sky

[@germanwarrabbit]

i dont know what happened to cipher maybe he took the quiet route moved to some place away from all the war and death even playing as mercenary cipher i can't imagine he'd keep fighting after hoffnug i hope he finda pixy one day maybe among the crowd of an airshow, maybe thousands of feet in the sky

[@VanillaDesu1]

And then he became Mihaly

[@hibikiverdugo9465]

I actually like the theory of him and Mihaly being the same.

[@redacted8983]

I wouldn't call that as landing. Landing wheels didn't touch the tarmac and no audible tire screeching was heard

[@jupiterbjy]

I'm not trying to enforce any idea if he touched down or not - as described in description, the point is: he didn't disappear after cam angle change! What insult I got was something like this: "He disappear after cam rotates. You didn't even play game." And this was enough to proof that person wrong, haha

[@girlforsaken1522]

of course, if not who's gonna narate the story

[@galm1thedemonlordoftheroun272]

wtf... my F 15C?

[@lukedajager]

i bet cipher works in a corner shop

[@Follower_Of_The_Onions]

cipher....the lalilulelo....

[@MetalFalcon99]

that's how many ac protagonists that disappeared?

[@CallsignAegis]

Answer He went to slumber Edit: he died?

[@Galm_1]

What about it

[@Chronostra]

I always think that chiper was shot down by mihaly

[@DANMALAGABR2007]

Nah Mihaly dimitru Margareta Corneliu Leopold Blanca Karol Aeon Ignatius Raphael Maria Niketas Archange Shilage is full of sht with the "there are pilots like you in every generation" thingy don't worry

[@mrandrossguy9871]

Bruh Still not easily seen . Gotta Zoom in Even with the Big Ass Falken 😅 Besides would have been better if it DID disappear rather than just Field of view and depth perception with pixels

[@jupiterbjy]

Pretty much! I chose red default color because black ain't that visible

[@claresaprama499]

I know that...

[@frequentflyer2225]

Z.O.E

[@SS-hu5zt]

Lanjutkan..