Adapting to The New World of War, with Military Expert Mark Galeotti

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Despite Russia's recent invasion of Ukraine, traditional conflict - fought with guns, bombs, and drones-has become less common around the world. For many nations it's almost too expensive to wage, too unpopular at home, and too difficult to manage. In this conversation, transnational crime and Russia expert Mark Galeotti speaks to Carl Miller about how today’s conflicts are increasingly being fought by every means available, from disinformation and espionage to crime and subversion.
This conversation was recorded on 3 February 2022, as Russian troops massed on the eastern border of Ukraine.
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Scammicus Жыл бұрын
Really well done discussion, and worth the time to listen through. I was often struck by how often security and defence tasks are getting cleaved off to the military, with its clear legal limits for action, by unimaginative political leadership. In terms of DIME (Diplomatic / Informational / Military / Economic) instruments of national power, the default to military solutions is frequently stymied (rightly so) by legal implications and counter-action implications. In a time where the implications of conflict quickly raise the spectre of some form of WMD response, leadership must engage in conflict with nuance and finesse, just as these fine thinkers say. And thank you, everything isn't bad, the bad guys aren't winning....and you really have to consider your definition of "bad guy" a bit more carefully.
chessplayer Жыл бұрын
An actual conversation with an insightful guest,such a rarity these days.
David Renwick
David Renwick 10 ай бұрын
You may enjoy the generous offerings from Fiona Hill and Julia Ioffe on YT.
Marcio Frota
Marcio Frota 10 ай бұрын
Very enlightening discussion. Thanks.
EdHERO451 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Mr. Galeotti and Mr. Miller nail it, in stating: The Mononarratives are the problem. When does a market-oriented, competitive, international trade become an economic war?
Curtis Dimes
Curtis Dimes Жыл бұрын
The way Mark speaks the English language is like how Rembrandt used a paint brush
Paul Revere
Paul Revere Жыл бұрын
What a profound difference between a legitimate expert and the techno-toddlers who mostly show up on the fake news channels. The legitimacy of this man's awareness became obvious to me (as a profession of arms practicioner and history educated western man) within minutes of watching. His DESCRIPTIVE analysis of how things now ARE vice the commonly held Prescriptive views of how people think things (war conduct) works is nothing short of brilliant.
John Schmalbach
John Schmalbach Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming that since the gentleman in the beginnings stated something to the effect of "...what is going on at the borders of Ukraine..." That this was filmed before the invasion, and this expert did not think the invasion would happen. I think this fact should be a subtitle front and center because it's a rather relevant fact
Simon Colombo
Simon Colombo Жыл бұрын
@John Schmalbach He said exactly that conventional war has not finished, but just rarer, and referred to what was happening in Ukraine.
John Schmalbach
John Schmalbach Жыл бұрын
@Jim Fuge It's about the overall context. The entire point of his video here is that an invasion like we see in Ukraine is a thing of the past. When you look at the fact that so many experts, and I would really have no doubt this gentleman is well, believe that at most we would end up seeing the Russians admit they had troops in the contested eastern regions and create breakaway republics as they did in Georgia. Even his tone as he refers to the Russians on the borders around Ukraine is one of "I know what it looks like but this is an exception that proves the rule of my premise."
Jim Fuge
Jim Fuge Жыл бұрын
I also noticed the Ukraine comment but I didn't get the impression he was saying it wasn't going to happen. It simply dated when this interview happened
Paul Revere
Paul Revere Жыл бұрын
A valuable observation on your part. I glad I read your comment with most of the video still to watch. I have, however l, seen and heard enough to be very impressed. There are several dynamics going on. Most visible to me are the news toddlers (referring to their relative knowledge of the highly complex reality of warfare). Next are the so-called experts which the news people bring on. Most of these are stuck in a past paradigm for the most part, although they aren't completely useless. Then there are those who are analyzing events as they happen with fresh eyes. These are very useful except that they seriously lack depth of knowledge and are also sometimes easily swayed by propaganda. Finally, those who seem to be least visible, are those who have a really good grasp of the warfare paradigm shift. I think we are watching one of those few in this video. Ultimately, it's not even the rare expert who understands the new paradigm that matters most. It's the leaders and thousands who support this or that leader putting the new paradigm to work that matters. It's not a huge surprise to me that a new underdog (new meaning not deeply entrenched in a rigid political and social ideology) is much more capable of exploiting the new paradigm than a gargantuan adversary politically fueled on crusty old agendas.
Glenn Mitchell
Glenn Mitchell Жыл бұрын
War is the armed extension of geopolitics and failed diplomacy. Espionage, cyber-attacks, and trade sanctions are also aspects of oppositional geopolitics, but they aren't warfare, anymore than the wars on drugs or poverty are actual warfare.
prst99 Жыл бұрын
I disagree in being clear and direct about these techniques. We should obscure the language. When it is obscure, the enemy might not realize they are the enemy or they wouldn’t have a clear reason to attack.
prst99 Жыл бұрын
Their part about gangsters and outsourcing reminds me of Harvey Weinstein using a private intelligence service to try thwart his accuser.
Brandon New B.NewMusic
Brandon New B.NewMusic Жыл бұрын
Seems to be simulacra sorcery will to power these types of things always and it seems to be getting back to a more distilled version of that
Alcohol Free
Alcohol Free 3 ай бұрын
I try to learn something new every day. You’ve given me that opportunity as I have no idea what you’re referring to? Thanks
Sebastiaan Kampers
Sebastiaan Kampers Жыл бұрын
This guest is just a sophist, and he clearly didn’t anticipated the Ukraine war.
thomasafb 11 ай бұрын
echoing a lot found in the 2005 book "The Utility of Force" by Rupert Smith
Jim Fuge
Jim Fuge Жыл бұрын
Both of these speakers are interesting to listen to and aware however Carl's rocking back and forth and looking down into his camera is very distracting! I'll let him know.
Juan Millaruelo
Juan Millaruelo 11 ай бұрын
Competition, yes. Conflict not necessarily. There is a huge leap from competition to war.
Charles Burnham
Charles Burnham 3 ай бұрын
Competition is good for you. Keeps you on your toes.
SuperStock Жыл бұрын
All i see is a very Russian critical position from Mark. Is there any critique of American use of conventional war, invasion and info warfare???
Andrew D Mackay
Andrew D Mackay Жыл бұрын
Do you think that Russia in ten years time will recognise itself as Western State, with its citizens having adopted the Western mindset hegemony and Russia will have integrated into NATO, reduced its nuclear arsenal and strengthened its economy by robust international trade of its resources?
Alcohol Free
Alcohol Free 3 ай бұрын
I sure hope so! It would make me feel more comfortable for my grandkids if there were no nuclear bombs.
Bill Turner
Bill Turner Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see just how out of date this talk is
Ben Jones
Ben Jones 8 ай бұрын
If we could stop their trains, we would be doing it right now.
Sun Seb
Sun Seb Жыл бұрын
Of course the "bad guys" are ALWAYS the others...
Evola’s Sunglasses
Evola’s Sunglasses Жыл бұрын
@Looper Russia is fighting the AZOV BATTALION. Please Google AZOV BATTALION
Sun Seb
Sun Seb Жыл бұрын
@Looper oh, and here's one for you to chew on: Can you listen to the arguments or do you have to be a good boy?
geoffrey n HILL
geoffrey n HILL Жыл бұрын
Read my "GREEN FIRE: Tommy & Ruthie's Blues" (Amazon) For Orwell & the late great Kurt Vonnegut... Remember them? 🤐
twotone1a Жыл бұрын
Deep in the notes it says this was recorded on 3rd Feb 2022, so it is massively behind in relation to current events viz the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
MVG Жыл бұрын
Learning nothing from 350°.
Maxus Жыл бұрын
This didn't age well...
Aleksandr Zaviriukha
Aleksandr Zaviriukha Жыл бұрын
Again, the comments are full of Putin lovers. Unbelievable.
Alex Burke
Alex Burke Жыл бұрын
@Archangel that dude is such a prolific Kremlin troll I actually recognized his name just from watching coverage past couple of weeks. I imagine he’s posting thousands of Kremlin propaganda comments a day.
Evola’s Sunglasses
Evola’s Sunglasses Жыл бұрын
@Archangel bet you fell for the NeoCon propaganda about Iraqi WMD.
Tom Thomas
Tom Thomas Жыл бұрын
He claims the Cold War was "confined to the North..." BS! Tell that to the South Africans and Rhodesians who bravely fought Moscow's proxy Cuban troops led by Soviet officers, as evidenced by the South African Defence Force's capture of Soviet officers on the battlefield...
Manuel Capela
Manuel Capela 10 ай бұрын
lilyfuzz1 Жыл бұрын
really interesting thank you.
Davitles Жыл бұрын
Just lol.
Davitles Жыл бұрын
@Liam Winter the title suggest there will be people left intact after the nuclear Blasts stop.
Liam Winter
Liam Winter Жыл бұрын
Which aspect
I saw an interesting thing...
I saw an interesting thing... Жыл бұрын
Sun Seb
Sun Seb Жыл бұрын
Thie sound like bulls"""t. Russia Russia Russia. As if there Irak, Lybia and so many other had never happened. Not mentionnening indeed all other non lethal leverages used by US and vassals (UK, Netherlands, Italy, France, etc). There is other non lethal leverages not mentionned here: Narative. No matter right or wrong, if you have the power of narative, you actually have huge advantage. US and UK are very strong at "story telling" ( in french: racconter des histoires" meaning "telling bollocks") and actually having people beleive them How about talking about that???? This is bollocks once again, in its academic form, the new sphere of influence of MI5 and CIA...
Looper Жыл бұрын
@SuperStock It’s not propaganda. The difference with this war (for better or for worse) is that we watch it on TV and on social media and in real-time …
MVG Жыл бұрын
360 genocidest stump.
MVG Жыл бұрын
ME'ray HERE. What is lies and repetitive undersding of past.
Clara Bel
Clara Bel Жыл бұрын
And donations to independent schools
Rosemarie D
Rosemarie D Жыл бұрын
H Hamid
H Hamid Жыл бұрын
Totally one sided western narrative.
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