Adding $60 Worth Of Upgrades to a Surpass Rocket V6 17.5 Brushless Motor. Is It Worth It"

[@scivanpoon]

Need to use a desoldering gun to heat and suck the solder out to replace the bearing at the bell end. You can try on a old motor rocket(V2/V3) to test it out.

[@wutupclegg6618]

Yes, that would work. I thought about doing it, but the work involved, on top of no performance gains, changed my mind to not do it. On top of that, I was afraid it might change the sensor readings.

[@scivanpoon]

@@wutupclegg6618 another method is to file out a larger diameter on the board. anyway, only try on a retired surpass sensor board first. I believe there is only less than 1mm. desolder should be ok. those are hall sensors I suspend they intentionally do that, so they limit the life span. LoL. They sell sensor board with the bearing installed.

[@wutupclegg6618]

@@scivanpoon Maybe I'll take another look when I have one apart again.

[@scivanpoon]

@@wutupclegg6618 I just looked at it. Not possible. Anyway. Thx for uploading a lot of videos!

[@wutupclegg6618]

@@scivanpoon you are welcome!

[@LuisCerecedo-be7no]

Best regards! Same doubts as previous videos... logistics! Where did you buy the screws? (3/32?) Unfortunately the MotoSafe Tuning Stand & Rotor Storage Case is no longer available anywhere.

[@wutupclegg6618]

Hey Luis. I obtained the screws from Amain Hobbies. There have been a lot of inquiries for that motor stand. I'll reach out to them and see when they will be available.

[@wutupclegg6618]

I purchased my motor service stand from WMH Racing. They have plenty in stock.

[@livingthemudlife]

Great videos. Where can you get the shims, ceramic bearings

[@wutupclegg6618]

I picked mine up from Amain Hobbies. However, if you have a Surpass V6, the endbell bearing is built into the endbell. The sensor board is permanently fastened to the endbell, which makes the bearing stuck in there. The bearings, shims, and screws are the same size as the Trinity Slot Machine.

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

​@wutupclegg6618 are these parts listed somewhere?

[@wutupclegg6618]

I don't remember the part number, but look up the parts for the Trinity motors, and they will fit.

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

@wutupclegg6618 thank you I got the shims in. I will try taking the motor apart one day lol. You mentioned you can't get to the back side right? So we're just added a shim to the front end correct?

[@wutupclegg6618]

You can take the Rotor out. You just can't remove the back bearing from the end cap. I would recommend getting the Motor Service Tray from WMH Racing. You'll really be happy to have the tool to remove, and install, the Rotor.

[@extec101]

do the extra performance from ceramic bearing and titanium screws make a bigger differance on a mod motor like a hobbywing 6.5T?

[@wutupclegg6618]

I don't believe the would. Are you in need of a faster 6.5 motor? That's a pretty fast motor as it is, unless it is old and warn.

[@extec101]

@@wutupclegg6618 haha no i dont need a faster motor then my 6.5T as i just need to crank up turbo timing if i need more speed :) would be fun tho to know if it makes a bigger % of increse in power or if titanium screws and ceramic bearings is as good as snake oil pedaled by the pro drivers.

[@wutupclegg6618]

No mods needed on a 6.5.

[@extec101]

@@wutupclegg6618 so its snake oil then to use titanium screws and ceramic braeings.

[@wutupclegg6618]

Yes. Even on stock motors.

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

I noticed the slop too. I know you said the upgrades arent worth it but would it be worth it to shim the rotor? Ive never shimmed a motor before so im assuming you shimmed the front end. I noticed some people shimming too much on the back side and the sensors were too far away to read properly. But i was curious if adding shims to the front would take the slop out and help performance. Thank you

[@wutupclegg6618]

Hello Legends Pizza. Is that a pizza joint you own? Where is it located? You usually shim the front of it. Sometimes, I will remove the rear shims and shim it from the front. You just have to make sure your rotor doesn't hit the sensors. The Surpass uses the same shims as the Trinity Slot Machines.

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

@wutupclegg6618 yes it's my restaurant. Located in the bay area with 2 locations

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

@wutupclegg6618 I'm on amain looking at shims and there is hundreds. I sorted by trinity and still don't understand what size the shims are. I see a few companies that make kits with a bunch if different sizes. I will keep searching but if you know the size it would help. Thank you for your guidance

[@wutupclegg6618]

Part# TRITEP1527 will work.

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

@@wutupclegg6618 thank you so much

[@charliecoopey586]

Do you know what resistance numbers are at 77 degrees for the V6?

[@wutupclegg6618]

I have not checked that. I don't have the tool to test the RC standard resistance.

[@fab_cab]

Could you please let me know which size the bearings are?

[@wutupclegg6618]

Hello Fab_Cab. Sorry for the delay on getting back to you. I completely forgot to look up the size. They are the same size as the Trinity Slot Machines, .125 x .375 x .156. I was bearing, in the endbell, is not easily accessible. If you found a way to get it out without compromising the sensors, please let me know.

[@fab_cab]

@@wutupclegg6618 no need to apologise. People have lives and things to do. And i understand. Thanks for letting me know. Thought i had issues with bearings. The issue was a big piece of magnet some how got into my motor from the track and made it stop spinning. All good now. :)

[@wutupclegg6618]

@@fab_cab That's not good. Hopefully it's not part of your motor. How do you like your Surpass V6? It's a pretty amazing motor.

[@fab_cab]

Doesnt look like it came from my motor. I actually have the v5r 21.5t motor. I figured the bearings would be the same. I would like to get the v6.

[@wutupclegg6618]

@@fab_cab I don't have any 21.5 motors. I did order some, but they sent me the 17.5 Light Weight ones instead. The 17.5T Stock Spec motor is much torquer than my Certified Slot Machine.