After Breaking Down, Did Anything Else Break On My New Hummer EV? | One Month Update

[@rd4660]

I can't wait for the mid-winter review. Be brave, leave it outside over night and see how she works.

[@TFLtruck]

You bet! Cold winter testing is coming up soon.

[@rd4660]

@@TFLtruck Looking forward to it, I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

[@jghall00]

L2 will keep the battery conditioned. Not sure it's reasonable to expect someone buying a 100K+ vehicle to not have a place to charge it at home. I can see it not fitting in a garage, but L2 is a no-brainer.

[@billybobbob3003]

@@TFLtruck lol this things gonna cost 115,000 to repair once everything starts breaking on it lmao

[@spacingguild]

@@jghall00 I have an $80k Lightning and a $1.5 million dollar house in the middle of San Francisco. It might shock you to know that I didn't think through what it would take to charge a giant truck. About the only thing going in my garage is a Nissan Leaf. 🤣

[@nismo370z4]

$115,000 and not all of the features work...GM engineering at its finest. 🤣😂

[@grantman64]

The Hummer EV is for early adopters and poseurs - and there's nothing wrong with that. For us mere mortals, the Silverado/Sierra EVs appear to give you much of the EV goodness of the Hummer but on a narrower track and with a midgate to overcome the tiny bed problem. And once they get through the loaded first editions, the Silverado/Sierra twins should be available at (somewhat) saner prices and option levels.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I mean also anyone who needs to go off road and carry the whole familty.

[@steven2723]

mere mortals with silverado EVs? Lets bring that down a notch lol Us regular mortals can barely get a corolla

[@vincefairleigh6899]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough any 4 door pickup truck can carry a minimum of 5 people, sometimes 6 if it has a fold down centre centre column.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

@@vincefairleigh6899 Why do suburban's exist then?

[@vincefairleigh6899]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I’m just stating that one can bring the whole family in a pickup truck too, with the suburban it any suv your luggage stays dry in a suv s opposed to a pickup truck, although one can get a canopy 😎

[@chrisballengee5746]

A hummer has been and always will be a status symbol and 85 to 90% of the purchased ones will be in car shows or never leave the road just like the h2. great video

[@cup_and_cone]

Just like the H2? What are you talking about, the H2 was the ultimate 2000's upper middle class suburban soccer van and mall crawler. Most of them got daily driven to hundreds of thousands of miles, not sat in collector garages.

[@chrisballengee5746]

@@cup_and_cone that was the H3 not the H2.

[@USA__WILL]

@@cup_and_cone the H2s got driven hard after they depreciated. Otherwise, they were mainly on music videos, movies, and car shows.

[@tjhouston1280]

@@cup_and_cone we definitely drove our h2 hard as hell and had it not been for a drunk driver behind the wheel, it probably still would have been here today

[@cup_and_cone]

@@chrisballengee5746 H3 was the off-to-college vehicle for rich sorority chicks.

[@vinny5203]

4 wheel steer was cool on the old Denali trucks. Until it broke

[@danielfrain3521]

Exactly. I'm sure there's something in the fine print in the owners manual saying its not covered in the warranty.

[@SuzukiKid400]

I was wondering when the next Hummer EV video was coming out. I thought you guys parked it in the back 40 after it didn’t start in the middle of the road.

[@bluceree7312]

I like how you arrive at your verdict based on verified, real-life tests, not just intuition or but feeling.

[@smarticus6384]

As soon as warranty expires, the GMC dealers are going to love the HummerEV owners. They will probably be on a first-name basis.

[@backwoodstherapy]

That's literally any first year vehicle.

[@texlee1640]

@@backwoodstherapy Any year GM product lol.

[@augsu]

I have 120k on my Bolt, just did my first maintenance/repair, replaced a leaking seal on the drive unit, $12 part and my local shop did it in 15 minutes. I figured I'd change the drive unit fluid as it had 120k on it. The fluid was perfect, the rest of the car is perfect, I still have 8 years and 80 k warranty on the new battery upgrade GM just put in for free. No alternator, starter, sensors, exhaust, etc. Once my warranty is up I can easily replace charger, controller, etc myself, they're just boxes.

[@alexkostenyuk]

Would love to see review at 100k miles , I think this is gonna be money pit rig once it gets old , best of luck

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Thing will be money pit from birth till death bro check out the monthly payment

[@Utubeisazzho]

New engine in gas motor is how much. Wait to you buy a used Tesla or this thing and you have to buy a replacement $40,000 battery

[@daleliske9757]

They won't keep it that long, another 2 months tops, and then on to something else.

[@davidchang8428]

@@TheAnnoyingBoss that's GM alright!

[@chrism869]

Well, believe it or not, rivian does 8 years and 175000 mile warranty on the rivian r1t

[@petermorales695]

You guys need to find an old school GMT-800 with the Quadrasteer and compare the two!!!

[@cup_and_cone]

Quadrasteer couldn't crab, though. It's rear articulation wasn't that much, mostly just a helper for sharp 90 degree turns into parking spots or sharp u-turns.

[@petermorales695]

@@cup_and_cone I have heard of people hacking the system so they could. But yeah, it wasn't ever a factory option to really control the rear aside from turn assist.

[@Premier-Media-Group]

we love ours! 2003...1500HD

[@SuzukiKid400]

@@cup_and_cone that is not true! At highway speed, the old quadrasteer system would crane walk on the highway which was amazingly smooth for lane changes!

[@BillLaBrie]

@@SuzukiKid400 the 4ws cars in the 80s did the same thing-countersteer at low speed for tight turns, steer in the same direction a highway speeds for stability.

[@GeorgeGeo]

TFLEV was clearly cited in the Fox video

[@steveb6287]

Wee must buy a Huge POS just to impress my neighbors. Thanks for the very informative video.

[@michaellowe3665]

It used to be that you opted for a Hummer to avoid crabs.

[@handyman2183]

This Hummer epitomizes the expression “just because you can does not mean you should.” No doubt is a marvel of technology and mechanics, but to what ends so you can show everyone else what a DB you are?

[@steveb6287]

Bravo! Hummer H2 Was and still big DB rig.

[@SuzukiKid400]

Owning a technical marvel does not make you a DB. Your attitude after you buy it does. Lots of people with Bimmers, lifted trucks, super cars, and shitty civics are DBs. Some people just like new tech. America is a free country, and if there are buyers, who are you to say what can and cannot be offered for sale?

[@handyman2183]

@@SuzukiKid400 for all I care so long as earned legally, people can pile their money on their front yard and set it on fire. I never said that people are not free to buy the Hummer, only made an anecdotal observation that these types of flashy, extravagant, overbuilt and impractical purchases tend to be made by DBs trying to show everyone else that they have more money than sense.

[@steveb6287]

This EV is very Green. Thank you for helping with CC....

[@doublebackagain4311]

That's a Mighty Broad brush you are painting with, DaVinci

[@NorsEvig]

Regarding the remote mirror, it looks like they haven't changed it, my 2018 Sierra only does it if I hold the lock button down on the remote after I set it in the menu. Or maybe it's a glitch and it is supposed to do it every time. My wife's Mazda stows the mirrors automatically, which I prefer, although you need to be careful in the winter - if it's crusted over with ice it can get stuck.

[@johncipolletti5611]

Hey, there was the Titanic that sunk. There was the Apollo 13 space craft that exploded. So now we have the Hummer EV. Oh, and it cost just as much.

[@NathanTenney]

I like that you flipped the script on Fox and used their footage of your footage.

[@joseluismendoza9916]

You guys need to step up to a 80 amp charger like the one you guys got with the Ford. Especially for the ev channel to compare best case scenario for level 2.

[@DoctorPainKilla]

Simple math says it is at least 13.8 hours but probably closer to 14.5 hr with losses

[@enjoylife7030]

Despite its faults this truck is easy to love, as long as it isn't your only vehicle or your daily driver. As a fun/play vehicle it would be great to have one in your massive garage.

[@Babycrat]

It's the cost of house how can you say that it wouldn't be your daily driver at that cost??? Must have money to waste on a impractical purchase just to sit in you garage for you to use only on Sundays!?? That make any sense ????

[@warbuzzard7167]

You'd have to move to rural Ohio or Louisiana and look for a house in a trailer park to find one for $115k. Inflation happens. The only thing that doesn't rise in price are salaries. Get used to it.

[@scrappy7571]

We have 2 of these turds here. Cannot sell them due to stop sell for the water leak recall. Our fast charger has not been installed, so they tried using the 120 volt charger. Five days later it's still not fully charged.

[@danielm9315]

A bit too much truck for most but I’m glad they make this beast.

[@ThePzrLdr]

4+ days charging at home with a standard 120v, that says it all.

[@CueBeanKa]

Who's buying a $115k truck without installing a level two charger?

[@davejones1959]

@@CueBeanKa Level 2 is 16-20 miles per hour. 8 hours for 140-150 miles. That is what I get at home. Charge about 3 x per week.

[@evilfinnigan]

We had crab mode in one of our four wheel drive tractors. The only thing it was useful for was pulling a pull-type combine and keeping the PTO shaft straight. Maybe there are other Offroad scenarios though. I can think of a few.

[@Antonyg2100]

Ya skytraks have had that too for a while. Never found a single reason to use it. Maybe there a need in equipment but in the Hummer its kind of a sales gimmick

[@davidjernigan8161]

Too big, too expensive, too small a bed, too many gimmicks that cost a fortune to fix.

[@FBISHOJI]

Classic General Motors Quality in a nutshell

[@KygenPatriot]

Then it's not for you.

[@journeytree]

@@KygenPatriot Takes a genius to come to that conclusion, doesn't it?

[@troy9er]

Lease one, don’t buy!

[@anyone9689]

Imagine the problems at 70,000

[@gregferris9378]

The Hummer reminds me of the Lamborghini LM 002.

[@davidjernigan8161]

Nothing stops it. Except a rain storm.

[@joshualewis393]

You might have to take the truck back to the dealer and have them reload the software for the mirror issue. Have you tried locking the truck and then holding down the lock button? But if the setting is resetting itself, then it's $115k software glitch that the dealer might be able to fix by the software reloading.

[@rocks2rocks06]

Just bought a 2000 jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 for less than 3k great compression drives Stright down the road its not perfect. but I'm willing to bet it will out last any EV. I still enjoyed the video I'm just not into newer cars just way to many gadgets to break.

[@briantaylor311]

You guys are great gasoline truck salesmen.

[@weazleman36]

Crab mod is oddly helpful in certain trailer parking situations. You can turn the trailer but not have to put your vehicle in a bad spot for your next move if your trying to get say a camper nice and straight in a space. I know this from driving an aircraft tug many years ago and used this for maneuvering the aircraft into tight spots.

[@timewithtofu]

More off road videos with this thing, please!

[@TFLtruck]

You bet. We are filming one today.

[@darknes7800]

Problem is, there are VERY FEW charging stations that support the fast charge 800V systems. At home.....220 volt charging takes DAYS to recharge. EV = not ready for prime time!

[@thereplacementfordisplacement]

Do you have links to the 2 people that destroyed their Hummer EV?

[@vr4787]

Over $100k and no spare tire, what the heck? Just an over priced bunch of glitchy tech that can’t do off road and can’t go the distance towing.

[@jadharb5646]

It’s not, the price if 212kw of battery which is 3 tesla y batteries is al least 50k

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

About the price outside of the limited edition which does compare nicely to the Raptor R and Esclade V the price range will be the same as the Rivian/Lucid air so around $75K-$100K.

[@RatsTesla]

You have someone in your comments spoofing your account and trying to say you are giving stuff away and then when you try to enter they want to charge for shipping it’s a scam.

[@RatsTesla]

Comment below mine is the scammer

[@WW-wf8tu]

Hurry up and do the tire changes before it is so cold you will cringe about the idea. Want to see if the jack will handle the height of a fully aired up spare going on. Show us how long it will take to air back up the tire(s) with the supplied air compressor/repair kit. 😉

[@erikstephens34]

Of note it does exist a DCFC that works with a 240V split phase input. Delta makes a 25KW DCFC unit that works on a 125A 240V circuit (and costs roughly $5K). So you don't necessary need 3-phase for DCFC. That being said a 125A 240V circuit is still not practical for most residential installations.

[@kellybustell769]

On my 2017 Silverado the mirrors won’t automatically fold either. But, if you lock the door with the key fob and hold the the lock button down for a second or two, they will fold.

[@vitaming582]

Kind of a big status symbol vehicle, but that's kind of what the civilian Hummer always was.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

To be fair this is more of a muscle truck status symbol and the original hummer was basically a military truck

[@saschafischer5654]

Test one of these with a tear drop vs the towing range of maybe a outback, Tacoma, or ranger.

[@craig8638]

They can keep the crab walk, but the rear wheel steering is amazing. My wife has it in her EQS, and that thing has an amazing turning radius..

[@jeffforbes70]

the crab walk will come in handy more than you think, like when you park at the end on the parking lot so no one dings your doors and that 1989 beater parks 6 inchs away

[@Premier-Media-Group]

Our 03 GMC 1500HD has 4 wheel steering, and we love it...

[@SuzukiKid400]

Crab walk is great for lane changes at highway speed.

[@jeffforbes70]

@@CamoShirt yes if he parks on the drivers side. he could also park on the passenger side . or he could have parole parked on the street and backed 6inches from your front or rear bumper, but i think you missed the point.

[@kevinvanlohuizen2709]

I'll take the Raptor R over that any day

[@jliefer2484]

absolutely

[@arenjay3278]

Email GM about the mirrors and a hood release. Or a battery on off switch.

[@kinster02]

That's why I never buy the first year of any vehicle, especially an all new vehicle. Let someone else be the guinea pig.

[@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD]

Its only a true GM vehicle if it constantly breaks down !

[@honoredsage4946]

Where and why would you ever need this type of vehicle, I can’t picture it as a daily driver

[@steveb6287]

Looks so fun taking up 120% of the trail. Not against Evs but this is stupid...

[@steveb6287]

Stay the Trail.

[@paralyzes]

123 mile range pulling a trailer, 4 days to fully charge; requires 3 phase power to rapid charge, $115,000. All I need to know on why NOT to buy even if I had a bankroll burning a hole in my pocket.

[@Moosesoup]

I love the potential for EV trucks but they need to make a simple EV truck that works with out any gimmicks

[@gregmoessner3104]

The truck is not heavy duty it is only heavy

[@garner2267]

I'm curious how well EVs function in cold weather. Will it reduces battery life? What about heating?

[@jghall00]

Cold weather saps the range. My EV is a 2017 with 100 miles of range and I lose around 30% of my range between running the heater and cold temps outside. Keeping the battery conditioned using L2 charger at home mitigates the loss somewhat. For a daily driver, it's not really an issue since new EVs have well over 200 miles of range and will be topped off at home. For road tripping, depends on charging infrastructure, distance, and speed.

[@joshuarosen465]

Depends on the heating system. With resistance heat you can lose 40% of your range, with a heat pump you lose much less than that. The new Tesla's have heat pumps, older ones had resistance heaters

[@rusty2381]

I know this is such a small detail but I wish more cars had T-tops. If GM said next year's Camaro will be available with T-tops, I'd be putting a deposit down today

[@davidthomas9267]

I can go from Point A to Point B without the price and tech that will fail. Oh ya the price is way more than I would spend on any vehicle.

[@yacahumax1431]

Obviously the mirror is just a software bug. The HUGE problem is the supercharger network for non-tesla. It SUCKS.

[@cmawhz]

That B5.5 W8 manual Passat is a dream car

[@andrewcrane6020]

That Trucks going to be a nightmare.

[@anthonybalser9969]

There literally is no reason to buy that truck if it can't tow the weight of a heavy duty truck, the price is psychotic.

[@BrianMello]

How is the removable top not in the top 5 loves.....

[@Wezi427]

In the first two minutes it sounds like you guys had a liquid lunch. 🤣🤣

[@Montera15]

any idea other than software what caused the issue for the clip for #3 on the hate list when you got stranded? what did the GMC dealer say? I also relate to the folding mirror conundrum with the 2019 Escape SE I drive for work... I don't like the "Auto Shut Off" function if it sits too long, and i need my car running sometimes while out working on a scene... it's so annoying, just like auto start-stop being disabled by default every time too.

[@davidjernigan8161]

Too many gimmicks rather than just making something that just works and works well.

[@SuzukiKid400]

Also, Porsche has offered rear wheel steering in their 911 since 2015. I suppose they added it as a gimmick as well??

[@steveb6287]

Yes.

[@zachlafond2652]

Is this built out of a that quality GM steel that never rusts after 10 years. Does it come with a miles to rust app built into the infotainment.

[@donc6781]

Good luck finding one for 115k

[@Aaron_Voltz]

The Hummer and the Ford Maverick have very similar dashboard designs

[@asdf51501]

That Volkswagen W engine sounded pretty good, actually.

[@tristanhipps604]

So when it comes to price on EV’s please keep in mind the battery size is a cost to the manufacture that can not be overcome. More range means more price. Want a EV truck with any kind of range that’s fast…yeah that takes a ton of energy so the battery is big. Say it costs something like $250-$350 Per KWH of battery. That math is the same for everyone which levels the playing field for manufactures unlike traditional vehicles

[@metalted6128]

Love your channel. Always great info!! Not always a fan of certain trucks, you test, but always great info!!! Keep up the good work!

[@Xavier1320]

Looking forward to you guys trading this in for a Raptor R 😁

[@terryivanov9009]

Great Video guys thank you, I feel you on the mirrors not folding LOL something like that would drive me crazy as well.

[@Boogaloo_Baloo]

The charging times are the main thing that makes me not want an EV. Than and range when having any load or tow.

[@TWolfyG]

Cool truck but I hate when people think they’re cool racing me off the line in 1000hp electric hummer lol, I’m in a 500 hp Maserati and this dude the other day took off like I had any chance so he could beat me to the next 1 lane light lol

[@blacksea7171]

you can get a 11.9KW charger. 33 Miles Per hour . Only cost about $2k installed. Not bad.

[@KalleSWBeck]

What do you do when RWS breaks? You repair it! Everyone is so worried about it breaking on trucks it’s not a big deal… I have a 20 year old quadrasteer and it still works fine.

[@nicholas_a.baxter-herold]

I’m planning on getting a 2022 Hummer EV Edition 1 and I’m wondering how many mile you had at 100% when you made this video?

[@scottyellis3442]

As always great video & the love/hate reviews are awesome. And I glad you buy/borrow trucks & cars to review for me this is by far the best channel on KZbin, but in my opinion as long as people continue to pay these way over prices the car companies are gonna keep going up.

[@Nebula1701]

sooo you are charging with 40 Amps.... get the 48 Amp charger for it.... so at least you can max out it's Level 2 charging speed..... at 11.5 kW.

[@JudgeDreddz]

I can’t wait to see the longevity of the battery with it incredible fast charging

[@ILOVEBACONBOY2018]

Them things will be a nightmare repair wise in the near future.

[@donnlepisto7800]

You better buy the extended warranty for 50k

[@sargenthp]

So for the power mirror settings... I am assuming the truck has memory seats/settings for the fob and door button. Have you tried setting the mode you want and re-saving your memory to the fob/door button?

[@sargenthp]

Also... I am attempting to detach from KZbin. Have you guys considered going to Rumble as well?

[@davidblalock9945]

Hummer EV isn’t a truck. Its a unibody, so at most it’s a pickup.

[@R.Nelson]

Good morning TFL!! Awesome episode!! Looks like the Delphi system...the four wheel steering set-up... Interesting.Thanks TFL!!😃

[@TFLtruck]

Yep, the rear steering in the Hummer is made by ZF.

[@johnmeeboer8971]

the rear wheels tilted in when he lowered it to do the drag race.

[@Queensizemusic]

I do love the car. Once the bugs are ironed out, it will be the very best option off-road.

[@scarroll625]

Cool truck, unfortunately GM is playing politics- so I’m not interested.

[@montanamountainutv]

You guys are the best! I value your opinion, I went out and bought a lightning after watching your videos! And I'm a lifetime GM guy! Now I need your help... the Ford dealer says the truck won't charge. I can't go get it, and I have financed it already. Have toy heard of this "not charging" condition? What's your thoughts?

[@danielm9315]

Sounds like the dealer is trying to keep your truck.

[@TFLtruck]

It does sound like the dealer is playing games. I’d go look at it and plug it in😉

[@andyham6094]

Roman just had to throw that little shade at Subaru lol

[@daleliske9757]

That's funny on the mirrors. My mirrors on my 2015 GMC Sierra crew cab 1500 are manually folded. And the ONLY time they are folded, is when I go through a drive thru car wash.! Other than that, there's never a need to fold them. 2nd, the bed space. If you buy this truck, you're not buying it for bed space. That's like buying a half ton truck with the 5'7" bed vs a regular short bed of 6'5". Nobody's using a 5'7" like a regular truck. I've had 8 foot beds all my life in regular cab, 2003 extended cab half ton GM, and now I could only get 6.5 ft in a crew cab half ton model. Love the extra cab space, but not the extra $4000+ for a 8 ft bed in a 3/4 ton. Or the drop in mpg with a gas. I'm sure you can put on aftermarket lights on the Hummer for far less than the $2500 you spent from factory.! So, that would've brought it down to $112,000 with the full spare tire. Didn't you spend $83000 for the Ford lighting, ok, $29000 cheaper, but yet the heavier Hummer out towed it, in range, out excellerated it, and was better off road.? Plus has Supercruise for towing. Would never buy one, but if your complaints are valid, vs the Ford Lightning, and your buying a EV pickup for truck usage I'd call it a draw.

[@antimatter4733]

I love how people keep complaining it's too expensive, it's like complaining a lambo is too expensive. Nah its too expensive for you, it's not too expensive.

[@arlenenolte8475]

Andre, you're famous now!!

[@thehfamily_]

The hummer brand is done. Engineers did a terrible job. They rushed to market and it shows in this video.

[@backwoodstherapy]

I like how GM calls "WTF Mode" the "Watts to Freedom" mode. Everyone knows what it really stands for.

[@brewmanchu1]

Why The Frown?

[@jimsteinway695]

On number #3 hate, they didn’t tell you to NOT operate electronics in the RAIN?

[@marcm8209]

Great review, awesome as always from you all at TFL ! nice to see having your channel helped you get these unique trucks. This looks HUGE, and not practical and how long will all these fancy features last. Crazy fast and wild. Wow, you broke down, definitely buggy. Telsa has this down and Ford seems to be doing EV's well. Overall nice toys, like the crazy expensive Lightning.

[@josephpeluchette191]

Only thing impressive about it is it's price tag from tfls own video it's not reliable

[@robertmorris3892]

When do you have to return it for battery replacement according to the recall?

[@BDevi0us]

Coming soon to a GM near you

[@manuelias86]

At least the Silverado should fix the charging at home with the huge battery problem.

[@KalleSWBeck]

Every truck should have 4 wheel steering

[@rubendawn7478]

300 Kw means nothing to most of us, why don't you guys make a video explaining how power and charge is measured on electric vehicles? Thanks for creating awesome videos.

[@MatthewHashim]

Maybe they can also map it back to a comparison with gasoline fuel efficiency for a modern truck? Especially as real-world MPGe don't seem to match EPA estimates, sometimes half less than predicted. A point of reference, the Hummer EV has more than twice the battery of a Tesla Plaid, nearly 100kWh larger than Rivian, and similar range as both. The Hummer is/was never about efficiency, but massive vehicle, massive power, and massive power usage. 300kW is an incredible amount of energy. Most home level 2 chargers produce less than 10kW, depending on setup and vehicle. An average home central air uses about 4-5 kW of energy, similar to an electric oven.

[@tazeat]

They do have a number of videos on the subject. But kW is a measure of power, kWh is measure energy which is simply a power for a given amount of time (ie the 215kWh battery of the Hummer could theoretically put out 215kW for a time of 1 hour before it runs out). A space heater usually maxes about 1800W or 1.8kW, so being able to accept 300kW is a lot of power during charging. Many many standard households worth of power while charging.

[@SuzukiKid400]

1 kW is 0.746 hp, so 300kW is 402 hp. Welcome to the metric system. Get used to it, because it’s better!

[@Paiadakine]

300 kw per hour with out knowing either the kWh capacity of the car or the avg kWh per mile is not too useful.

[@JogBird]

800V architecture... does that mean the cells in the battery pack are set up to add to 800V.. isnt that like 6-700 cells in series??

[@Gmac705]

Pretty much, yes. Depending on the I individual cell volt it might me more like half that. But still a ton of cells in series to hit that voltage.

[@jjknott1591]

About 215 in series, assuming 3.7 volts per cell