Age of Sigmar Lore: Sigmar

[@attila535]

"If you only have a hammer, every problem starts to look like nail."

[@Dahakra]

But if You have Ghal Maraz there are no more problems ; ]

[@eugenio5774]

if you only have an hammer, every problem starts to look like kneecaps

[@jonathanathor117]

Emperor of mankind: Convoluted if not somewhat contrived plan to starve chaos by using the webway as it's FTL and atheism. Sigmar: Hammer.

[@daedonas]

Yep this episode solidified it for me, favorite Warhammer lore guy right here. Thanks for not just spewing out wiki facts and instead really breaking down the meanings and giving your insight on GW's sometimes ambiguous explanations.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

I’ve always just assumed that “Unberogen” was a strangely bastardized way of saying “Unbroken,” so together with his name you would get “Sigmar the Unbroken”

[@jimmyrose7843]

That's actual cool

[@Guitarman5705]

This channel is quickly becoming my go to for age of sigmar lore content, you have such a polished format. Really excited for archaon but would like to learn more about the sylvaneth/wanderers in the new lore

[@justinlo3799]

Because there is basically no other channels want to do a lot of videos about age of sigmar.

[@dbrown992]

Id love to learn more about alarielle and how the elves regrew after endtimes age of chaos and now into sigmar

[@8AFM4]

I am actually really starting to like the way the lore is going. The old lore was much more of a "traditional" style of fantasy with dragons, wizards, castles, witches and elves which is fine, but you see a lot of it. The new lore is much more like that of Greek mythology, where the gods are active in the world of humans and humans have a roll in how the gods run the universe. Also in Greek mythology there was always a sense of ambiguity of where the human world ended and the realm of the Gods started. I think this route is a fresh look at fantasy as it is not very common in todays literature.

[@apothneisko]

Agreed

[@fatrat92]

Sadly age of sigmar really did loss a lot of the human aspect of of the lore, the struggle of a single human that has to take on waves of horrors from another dimension, the fail of a culture in to depravity with the dark elves and their subsequent love for torture and slavery and how no single race is ever 'good.' I could go on, but all I really have to say is age of sigmar just feels like gw saw how well 40k is doing and decided to copy that. it feels to PG and cartoony in nature.

[@nate742]

Try reading the lore on flesh eater courts or order serpentis. Or the Idoneth Deepkin, good God were they dealt a bad hand in their existence. Or the almost pragmatic nihilism behind the ideology of the Kharadron Overlords to completely disregard the gods in a universe where the pantheon holds such power in things. Cartoony and PG doesn't quite the mark as sure as you'd think.

[@cianmcswiney2505]

fatrat600284 Have you not seen the Flesheater Courts or the Idoneth?

[@SpookyMarine]

@@fatrat92 I do hope they go back to that gritty and dark style. There's still some cartoony looking art, but some of the new art looks awesome. Like the new Stormcast Eternal cover art, that shit looks cool.

[@That_Montage_Nerd]

Why did they have to name that god Khorne? All I hear at 21:08 is, "every bloodletter is a piece of corn."

[@cmelton6796]

Blood for the Khorne flakes?

[@compassionatecurmudgeon7025]

@@cmelton6796 Thats pretty Khorney my dude

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

So bloodletters are niblets?

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Khorne on the Cob

[@sigmar.de.oliveira]

So... people are talking about a game with my name? Are you kidding with me? I'm Sígmar!!!!

[@schnoodle1824]

Been listening to these videos during work, I love absorbing lore as you explain it. That being said, I kept thinking you were saying "his ear," and showed why Sigmar was bringing people into his ear.

[@MasterIceyy]

its always been my own personal head canon that when sigmar went east, maybe he united the kingdoms, of ind, cathay and nippon, separately, becoming known by many different names, as a unifier and a saviour to each nation, and establishing a different cult in each of the nations, adding more human worship to his immense power, and that would also explain why he is called the patron god of humanity, however after receiving so much worship his physical form left him, and allowed his ascension to godhood

[@2Tough]

I like it!

[@MasterIceyy]

2+Tough I’m shocked you replied, loving your stuff dude! I also think it explains sigmars power as he’s the only mortal who truly has become a god, as all the other gods are just survivors of previous worlds, where as sigmar achieved his right to be a god during his time as a living human

[@yuhyuh5674]

Sigmar is the badass of warhammer. Karl franz is no doubt a worthy successor to him

[@NewGuy2534]

Until Sigmar saw him as a threat and got rid of Franz.

[@bonk841]

Boss Umbra wait what??

[@kate6562]

The pics that you find for your videos are great. Helps really draw me in to the lore. Love your stuff dude.

[@howardj9946]

I love the irony that Khorne is straight forward. You know exactly what you will get with Khorne. Sigmar, the so-called hero of the story, and his Stormcast Eternals are riddled with fun contradictions and complexeties to make you actually question how honourable the hero truly is, just as the mortal realms have begun to do....

[@jonathanathor117]

Maybe...but I wouldn't follow a blood lusted skull crazed fetish sociopath.

[@howardj9946]

@@jonathanathor117 thats what many of Khornes followers used to say. For many it was either follow or die.

[@jonathanathor117]

@@howardj9946 Well I'm not force to follow any god. Hell I would never call the chaos gods gods. They're more akin to parasites who feed of emotions like how leechs feed of blood.

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Where did you find the background music...because it is TRUELY SPOT ON!! And could u do a full Old World Sigmar lore video?

[@toddburns9353]

Thanks for the lore. Great way to start getting into the hobby.

[@2Tough]

Absolutely my pleasure :)

[@phaserra]

I found the part where Sigmar joined other Pantheons and let his anger ignore Chaos a very interesting and cool development.

[@wookieesden3133]

I'm a new AoS player, and I ended up in Sigmar because I came from Shadespire, and I got Soul Wars. So these have been great to get caught up on what the heck I've gotten in to! Thanks!

[@2Tough]

I hope you enjoy them! :) My equipment and skills have improved considerably since this particular video, so it only gets better!

[@hughwhite3273]

Great video :) I have a question; The Chaos Gods all want a specific realm for their own; Khorne wants the realm of fire, Nurgle the realm of life etc. Hypothetically, which realm do you think Slaanesh (if they hadn't been captured and gone missing) would particularly want? Would love to see a lore video on the Hosts of Slaanesh; I think it's interesting that they seem to lose even when they win (conquered 7 realms, lost their god). Love the format of the vids, keep it up!

[@2Tough]

Thats a really interesting question and one I never thought of! off the top of my head.... I dunno, maybe Heavens? (Azyr). the otehrs either want a realm that matches them (like khorne and fire) or is their polar opposite (Nurgle's entropy and the realm of life). Maybe the purity of the heavens is a good counter to the dark deeds and desires of Slaanesh? But Im just making that up with no evidence lol. A for lore on Slaanesh, the second they release a book about him/her, I'll be posting it. I'm waiting with baited breathe to see what comes!

[@hughwhite3273]

I was considering it; given Slaanesh is about excess, with any reason or logic to it, while Hysh (Realm of Light) is a realm of reason and symmetry. I can see Slaanesh wanting to tear it down for fun. Plus the aelves are there and Slaanesh enjoys the taste of aelf souls :) Yeah the followers of Slaanesh are mixed; there are those who want to find them, those who want to replace them, and those that just don't care (devoted followers, those who want to be a god, and those who are utter nihilists). Seems interesting given that excess is what defeated Slaanesh

[@lpmorgan90]

Slaanesh will want Ulgu/Hysh due to the large Eaelven population :)

[@NewGuy2534]

Sigmar: Look, I might have screwed up in the last world. But what are the odds of Archeon coming back and me loosing again? *Age of Chaos happens*

[@DarkPrinceOfClowns]

Do you have a basic lore video? I've just discovered the game, so I know...pretty much nothing. And I can't choose my characters without knowing the basics, and factions and stuff.

[@2Tough]

Great point, let me work on something like that!

[@SpittinSquirell]

Great video. I am new to Warhammer and 40K and love the lore. I hear Sigmar all over the place but it's never explained who he is or what he did.

[@MrCarlBackhausen]

Love your videos, man! AoS is criminally under appreciated. I love to see all this

[@jorgequelas3095]

Great video! Great analysis! Can't wait to hear all about Archeon.

[@seancampbell470]

You do a fantastic job of making this lore digestible! I am fairly new to the game (within my first year) and greatly enjoy your videos. Thank you for the hard work you put into this channel. Keep posting!

[@irishjesus3927]

I often listen to your videos whilst I paint my AoS armies; the narrative keeps me coming back to, and staying longer at, my desk:) specifically, I finished the lore videos on a few of the Stormhosts themselves and was hoping you would create one for the Celestial Vindicators if you haven’t already. Given the nature of Sigmar and his weakness being said wrath, the Vindicators as the embodiment of his greatest flaw is endlessly exciting:) I’ll shoot you some pics of my CV soon:) thanks!

[@wizardwhohasmorempthanhp]

New to Warhammer in general... What is a Realm exactly? Is it like an entire universe that's part of a multiverse of the other realms?

[@EbonFang_92]

From what I can gather, the realms are not universes but worlds, because in many cases you can see the realm of shadow and the realm of light from the other realms

[@chinoschmino9108]

So there are two eras: the world of Warhammer fantasy, and the Warhammer world after the End Times. The End Times was the apocalypse/ragnarok of the Warhammer Old World where nearly every iconic character died. Chaos conquered the world, and essentially blew up the planet. Everyone was dead, the Elves were devoured by Slaanesh, the Humans and Dwarfs laid to ruin, and the Lizardmen fled in their spaceships constructed by the Old Ones. The world then blew up. Now this is where the Realms come in. There were 9 Lores of Magic (the different kinds of magic), and out of this ruined world, 9 different planes of existence manifested from these 9 Lores of Magic, and these realms resembled the Lore of Magic they manifested from. High Magic created the Realm of Heaven, Life Magic created a hippie garden, etc etc.

[@Theigzorn]

well i know its a old joke but damn there so many similarity to 40k.

[@francescospuntarelli7369]

Igzorn Buelle call it copycat of 40k

[@thesupremegentlemanatheist7382]

They're in the same multiverse.

[@jakesteele4047]

@@thesupremegentlemanatheist7382 This guy knows

[@lpmorgan90]

@@thesupremegentlemanatheist7382 no they're not...

[@excessiveone9952]

It's the sequel to Fantasy which came before 40k

[@reubenkaychengong2194]

The gods in aos is not all powerful, but their energy is almost limitless, the misconception between gods is either omnipotent in power and strength or all knownning

[@SophiaAstatine]

But Lord Kroak is still the best pepe. Like Sigmar for Azyr, but for the cosmos. Greatest toad.

[@2Tough]

hahaha well said

[@Sigmar_Heldenhammer]

Agreed

[@Jamie-bj8gk]

Hi Doug 👋, in case you forgot the wyr show was meant to start an hour ago, I just thought I'd remind you if you forgot

[@renegadusunidos6151]

sigmar is the Germanic Jesus on steroids.

[@Vyes]

I don't know who this Sigmar guy is, but he must pay for killing my chaos dwarfs

[@2Tough]

nah, direct that rage at the Arch-Magos over on Forge World ;)

[@30othello30]

Hey man ty for twking your time to make these awsome videos im new to warhammer,

[@YellLAG]

As someone getting into warhammer lore for the first time I don’t really see a difference between all the chaos gods and sigmar like u said with the other sorta divine deities they don’t seek worship or praise but sigmar does we can point at him and say that he’s the good guy outta the entire group but he’s just using those that worship him and give him strength and do his bidding same as all the other chaos gods the end goal for him seems to be the same as the other gods as well in that he wants to have the most influence over the world

[@thomasberg8372]

Great video. Alarielle next?

[@danielmorgan5949]

When Games Workshop brings back the Old World, I hope that they make it follow a separate timeline from Age of Sigmar. Perhaps a time split within the Warp resulted in very different outcome to the End Times, a timeline where the world doesn't blow up. That way both timelines can be considered canon and people who enjoy Age of Sigmar can continue to do so and people like myself who prefer the Old World can enjoy the new alternate reality where the Warhammer World wasn't blown up.

[@Nortic111]

Really enjoying the thoroughness of your lore videos! Is there anywhere that one can find a list of characters who 'survived' the End Times, people who's stories continue into the Age of Sigmar? Like Sigmar himself, Nagash, Archaon and even other minor characters? I'm interested in looking back to their stories from the Old World.

[@Nortic111]

That's great, thanks very much for the suggestions!

[@darkhighwayman1757]

Lord of Lightning....where have I heard that name...*Looks at my Aquilla and shakes my head

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

One of my favorite points is the fact that many human civilizations of Mortal Realms didn't fall in the Age of Chaos. And even some continued to worship Sigmar. But their beliefs are already very different from the official religion of the Church of Unberogen.

[@gwayawan]

Great analysis!!!!! More lore videos please!!!!

[@Manglet762]

I now see why Saltzpyre gushes over him.

[@benn1181]

In light of GW's announcement to bring back the Old World, please do a video on BRETONNIA!

[@timthorson52]

Where was it explicitly stated that nagash let Chaos in and plotted to have Chaos and the other gods battle it out and claim victory of the weakened enemy?

[@codyweaver7546]

How utterly insane AOS is... the generic good guy is a ten foot tall golden lightning angel/demon paratrooper

[@Kimchiboy08]

Where does Sigma sit in the Warhammer 40k timeline.? I purchased the AOS audiobook thinking they were Space Marines. This Sigma lore , I've never read before.

[@thkase]

Do another lore video on overlords big papa. Talk about the cities. They are best faction

[@Failerist]

Thank you so much for this great vid !

[@Entaros123]

Nice lore vid and I appreciate the effort and work put in. There are just several mistakes and half truths that pop up that bother me, especially when making a lore vid. At several points you refer to Sigmar uniting the whole of Mankind which is false. He united the tribes of men that lived where the Empire ended up being. In addition to the Brettonians there where entire nations of men at other parts of the world, with Cathay (China allegory) being hinted as even larger then the Empire. There was also Ind and Nippon and Araby ect. Will probably add more points later due to lack of time.

[@Entaros123]

Also you stated that Sigmar wasn't really present as a god until the End times which is not correct. Firstly he did provide divine protection, power and spells to his followers exactly as the other gods did and secondly he had an Avatar by the name of Valten in the Storm That Never Was. Although the second point might be moot due to GW retconning it in a very lame way later. Really made me think less of them as a compeny at the time. But the point is that Sigmar was there and was felt for hundreds of years since his ascension.

[@2Tough]

Hey Entaros123, Your right on several of those points. TO be perfectly transparent: I scanned the Warhammer fantasy wiki page to get notes on the Old World. My interest above all else was talking about Sigmar in the current setting, with references to his backstory as secondary. I missed the boat on the Old World Lore (came in during 8th edition). I appreciate that you really enjoyed that lore and want to thank you for your posts that shed more light on the character in case any viewers want to learn more :) Thank you :)

[@Entaros123]

2+Tough No prob. I'm glad my comments where recieved in a positive way. I was afraid it came out too harsh. Cheers and keep up the good work!

[@gwayawan]

Truth is, no one care about cathay and araby, etc..... so its not an issue

[@sixxgunner8611]

Great video! Can You do Alarielle sometime soon?

[@leopoldjenkins]

Very cool. Keep up the good work

[@Emil_Nielsen]

This is the first video that I found from you, but i like it a lot, sub count +1

[@jamesn2830]

I’m guessing the story with nagash was retconned because in current day archaon smites Nagash in age of chaos not sigmar

[@jwatts56]

How does the emperor of mankind, sigmar the mad primarch and Karl Franz all relate to each other

[@InquisitorThomas]

The Emperor of Mankind doesn't relate to Sigmar unless you're very loose with the definition of relate. Basically Warhammer Fantasy was the 1st Warhammer IP, than 40K came out as a sci-fi spin off Warhammer, so a lot of the factions had parallels: Empire = Imperium, Elves = Eldar, Dwarves = Squats. Based on a quirk of the rules systems you could have a game between a Warhammer Fantasy Army and a 40K army, and some old Lore implied it might be possible for a character to travel too and from the Warhammer Fantasy universe to the 40K universe, but as the series solidified as their own unique things the similarities and potential world hoping implications were dropped in later lore, but some fan theories still insist Sigmar is a Lost Primarch. As for how Sigmar and Karl Franz are related: Sigmar was the first emperor and Franz was the Last, as far as I'm aware Franz isn't actually related to Sigmar.

[@OrKkTeKk]

As they combine the Lore between AOS and 40K I know that this guy becomes the emperor of man. Which opens up so many more questions.

[@2Tough]

i dont see any indication that the lore is being combined outside of the same chaos gods that they've always used.

[@OrKkTeKk]

@@2Tough It is a working theory that me and my local community have been bouncing around. It started as a fun thought experiment but as they alter the AOS Lore we have noticed many things that did not line up before that do now. We think they are going to try and link it all up at some point. Cannabis becoming legal in our area probably helped. But I am hopeful I am right.

[@themedip]

@@2Tough you don't see any indication... Really? Now I think you're being the devil's advocate for the sake of it...

[@TheVergoner]

@@themedip There is no Terra. Humans (The normal ones) live in 8 different Mortal Realms. Sigmar don't order his Stormcast go around burning others churches. And he tries to unite all other races along with humans against Chaos, unlike Emperor who is all "Mankind #1". Sitting on a throne and having golden armour and your dosen't yet count been the Emperor of Mankind.

[@josephcourtright8071]

It might be worth it to pick up Archaon and dump him alone into a legion of stormcast. Even at really high energy costs.

[@Aki777craft]

Brocast! Only the faithful! Sigbro

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

You know what I really like yet hate about His name? It's perfect dutch and means "Hammer of the Heroes" but in universe it means Hammer of Goblins, for some reason.

[@Sigmar_Heldenhammer]

Very nice job buddy.

[@killakev9589]

so whats the point of end times if everything is gonna repeat all over again with the same warring factions

[@2Tough]

to introduce those factions to a new setting that breaks away from traditional fantasy. Also the narrative has changed dramatically-more of a greek gods theme where the gods have their chosen champions and interfere with the lives of mortals a lot more.

[@dbsm206]

MONEY

[@TheByteknight]

The clinging on to Earth until a magical space dragon finds him and introduces him to the 8 dimensions, makes me cringe a bit at its cheesiness. Also, it implies the Space Dragons know more than the "God" Sigmar..

[@2Tough]

cannot argue that. That whole time section called "The Age of Myth" really is a thorn in my side. Literally every story beyond that point "age of chaos" now "age of Sigmar" has been full of really great stories and narratives though

[@thelordkragan1888]

Well, they aren't really dimensions to begin with. None of them are. The realms are literally planes, flat (if rugged) surfaces held amidst a sphere like our atmosphere but with magic shit thrown into the mix too.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

The Lord Kragan so like discworlds without the elephants and a turtle under them?

[@placeholdername3818]

You can thank Total War for my views. While I prefer fantasy lore I wanted to see what changed. The whole multi dimension world hopping war always was offputting.

[@Hebdrik]

Definitely Not Michael I agree, the fact that they dont exist in one world just makes worldbuilding impossible for me

[@daicaghund3587]

I am really heavy in to the novels. The only lore I am not at all familiar with right now is AoS. That said regarding and of the lore for 40k WFB or AoS, can you get the lore without buying the rule books? I dont play the tabletop current but would love access to the lore part of any of those books for any, I guess for lack of bettee words, universes. I Know WFB is a different story but Id still love to read more of the lore from those if its possible. Thanks!

[@NoasNoa]

Can you suggest what books should i start reading in Age of Sigmar?

[@Midnight-vp1ro]

I'm from 40k, so are 40k and Sigmar within the same universe?

[@leshatcatski5089]

Sigma never did "unify humanity", he just unified the Empire, making it the most powerful human state in the Old World. There were plenty of other states inside and outside the Old World that never rallied under his banner/cult (Tilea, Estalia, Kislev, Cathay...) Also, you inaccurately use the term "Old World" to refer to the whole WFB planet, whereas it actually only describes the "European" part of said planet...

[@francescospuntarelli7369]

Lëshat Catski good bye good lore.

[@MrMViceroy]

He was also wrong about Karl Franz being a reincarnation of Sigmar. That was Valten. Franz was just temporarily possessed by Sigmar. Also Sigmar was not a lightening god, nor was Azyr the realm of Sigmar, prior to the Age of Sigmar game. That's all new fluff.

[@LouisKing995]

The Old world includes nearly eastern part as well if I’m not mistaken, and technically the lands of the chaos dwarves. Also, no one gives af about Cathay lol. They are a faction that is there as an appeasement at best.

[@bracquo]

What about Grimnir and the fyreslayers ? Isn’t the same as the stormcasts imbued with their god’s power ? Just wondering your point of view.

[@squeesmyth9025]

hows the old world not cannon? the age of myth describes how he was clinging to the remnants of the planet

[@abdoul5176]

*Slaps roof of Sigmar* "You can fit a lot of legions in these ears!"

[@HoundofOdin]

Sigmar is actually an ancient Frankish name that means something like "famous by victory". There were actual Frankish people named Sigmar.

[@jamespaguip5913]

Sigmar reminds me of Odin.

[@MrZoloco8]

Can't wait for archaon

[@VarangianBodyguard]

FOR SIGMAR AND THE EMPIRE! 💪

[@Wizo062991]

Free people lore. What exactly is up with them, and why are they not just serfs/peasants being conscropted like I is in 40k.

[@2Tough]

Great idea! While there isnt a ton of lore yet, I can certainly recap all the stuff we've learned in piecemeal from books and short stories :)

[@YGOrochi]

That was great, thank you.

[@kennybirt3924]

At 21:00 you spoke about Sigmar putting a piece of himself into each of his soldiers, would Grimmnir be doing the same with the fyreslayers just not contentious of it?

[@HalfliferLPs]

they put it in by themselfes, so I don't actually think that Grimnir planned that. They do it to have him close and to collect him, if my memories are correct

[@magicalpencil]

every bloodletter is a piece of corn

[@BaileyBecca]

It’s a shame the models don’t look all that good

[@julianfarnum1079]

Realy liked this thanks 2+

[@julianfarnum1079]

TwoPlusTough no problems bro. Would you consider doing a how to play the age of sigmar fire storm set. Including the realm building?

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

Sigma"greetings..and I assume you all know who I am" me".........your face seem familiar...have we met before"?

[@jeffreymayo550]

I want a job writing for the age if sigmar it needs more lore 40k is amazing but so is sigmar

[@griffvaldez]

What's with the Superman shot dude? That was petty of you.

[@nathanexplosionn]

7:11 Thats a cool picture. What is it from?

[@k.t.1641]

Superman is perfect? Boy...what have you been reading?...

[@erfancurufinwe8356]

What name of music?

[@LearnTrainPlay]

the life of sigmar is a good book to read to learn about sigmar

[@2Tough]

solid recommendation!

[@NewGuy2534]

It’s always easy to say you’re the greatest God when all the other are either dead or in prison.

[@lechevalier-ns2pt]

Thats winning by default

[@clydeisabastard4697]

Unberogen was sigmars tribe.

[@nicolasmedellin9478]

New to Warhammer. Is this connected to in any way to the rest of the Warhammer 40k universe? Like the Emperium of man ect. ???

[@2Tough]

Hey Nicolas! Not really. GW owns two different properties: 40k (sci-fi) and Age of Sigmar (Fantasy). THe only real cross is that they directly ported over the chaos daemons (they are pretty much the same in both universes) :)

[@lunky6048]

Nah all hail the one true God... All hail the Man Emperor of Mankind

[@francescospuntarelli7369]

Sighmatites here is the sighlore!

[@khaledkhateeb5547]

for twin tailed comet

[@HalfliferLPs]

yes-yes

[@mikeb7823]

Where do I find a list of warhammer books in chronological order?

[@2Tough]

To be honest, I dont know of any master list :/

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

@@2Tough Hello! I still follow recommendation in White Dwarf - June 2021 (Issue 465).

[@wadepav3235]

In which mythology sigmar is?

[@dom3631]

This episode is about Sigmar .. ..guess what i named my son (who is now 11 months old) ...yup

[@mrdrebin123]

So.. Sigmar=Talos?

[@GDL1181]

whats the deal with skaven, how can they get to azyr?

[@JRut99]

Guillermo Gonzalez Lopez they ‘gnaw‘ their way in via the chaos realms

[@eu29lex16]

Sigma is the ultimate sigma male, his name is literally Sigmar.

[@degarmoj1]

Good summary, but really?, you had to bring down Superman?

[@lpmorgan90]

Sigmar is Malice...

[@russiannavy1108]

Sigmar Umpalumpum