Crimewatch UK - January 1997

[@joanbrennan2534]

Watching this archived series is quite addictive, imo I dont even live in the UK.Thanks for sharing.

[@SebastianGomezZana]

He was a tall,short guy with long blond dark hair cut short,blind in one eye and deaf in the other.Walked with a stutter and spoke with a limp

[@bwabymafia]

just hand this suspect whatever they want, we won't find this she-man

[@devinisdead4061]

Why can i not stop watching these? Im not even British damn it! I simply can’t bloody stop mates.

[@ajs41]

Where are you from?

[@ryanprice4023]

I know the feeling the feeling mate. Lot's of it before my time but I remember the program well. God only knows why they stopped it. Not only did it have massive audience figures, but was also responsible for solving many sickening crimes. I'm just glad that Jimmy Savile was never offered the presenters job. Talk about put the 🦊 in the hen house, the depraved c***!

[@devinisdead4061]

Andrew JS sorry I didn’t see this. I Live in Perth Australia mate.

[@jameswallwork2493]

Because it's back when there was interesting/decent stuff on the tele now it's just plain old rubbish ha ha

[@ajs41]

@@devinisdead4061 I've always wanted to visit Perth. Spent 4 days in Sydney and 3 days in Melbourne in 2017. That's all as far as Australia is concerned for me. I live near Birmingham (England) incidentally.

[@DjNicksy85]

RIP Jill Dando

[@AMcGie]

I can't watch these without feeling so sad for her. Just want to shout through the screen and warn her😪

[@davidjohn8795]

That robbery was funny af fair okay to that transit driver going back to his van to get a tool to defend himself, paddy played a blinder there lol

[@rs-qt1qg]

I don't think there's anything funny about robbery. I think they watered down what actually happened. It was probably more graphic that what was shown. By this time CW had started to lose it's way with the way reconstructions were being filmed. In the early 90's they went all out (showing people being shot, police officers being threatened etc)

[@CARLIN4737]

Paddy needs a tool...Wheres your freaking tool?

[@macssimpson183]

Oh man, the first robbery is like a comedy sketch. Bare in mind that the lorry is full of chocolate and crisps. I reckon they would have had less interference if they had stopped the van outside a police station. The lady snatching the keys was a great move.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Ha ha! BARE means NAKED!! The spelling is BEAR.

[@CARLIN4737]

@@treasurehunteruk9718 The geezer was built like a bear or a sliver back gorilla.

[@janty68]

The most inept robbery ever 😂

[@samyheath8103]

Paddy from Emmerdale, in the first reconstruction 😂 😂 👍

[@StewSpaull]

He was also in a Crimewatch File later on, as a detective. I think it was the one about the DJ - "The Hunter and the Hunted".

[@ryanohara476]

A month before Dominic Brunt appeared in Emmerdale as the new Locom vet he's played Paddy for 21 years since February 1997.

[@BlytheWorld1972]

built like a brick shit house apparently

[@rutter1ify]

👌💯

[@lrr1702]

He was also in a reconstruction in about 86/87

[@andrewdaley5480]

That woman had more bottle than that off duty copper. Why am i not supprised. 🇬🇧

[@CARLIN4737]

Birds get away with more if the geezer had gone for the keys or owned up... Now look hear im a police officer? It might have gone pear shaped?

[@mowbraybird]

What a relief there is no dramatic music played over the reconstructions! In any US crime documentary I cannot hear the dialogue due to the constant guitar and organ wailing being played over it.

[@ajs41]

Unfortunately, I think they changed that later on in the series, around 2003 and later on.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

The later ones are awful. They put dramatic music for effect.

[@traceymorris5312]

Yes so true bloody annoying

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

I tried very hard to watch one about the scream killers - Cassie Stoddart, and gave up, there was so much noise and sound effects, I just could not hear it.

[@vanillasnow4084]

8:03 when you’re doing a robbery but Paddy and his mate won’t mind their own business 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@daniellebishop5599]

Paddy and marlon lol

[@CARLIN4737]

Nightmare on Old Kent Road?

[@starchild352]

I can’t believe there was only one person asking about that little girl on here So sad what happened to her

[@eccIefechan]

The first attempted robbery in this was so pathetic that it made me laugh out loud.

[@tharealmikezee3165]

Yeah! Yeah they saw a whole lot of ppl including plainclothes cop haha! I'm friggin surprised they weren't apprehended immediately

[@julieteaston5829]

That poor woman. I had the same thing. When they have a knife there’s nothing u can do. Especially if it’s at your side or near your throat. It’s the fact he was dirty that makes me so mad because that would have made it all the worse. I’m not usually effected by these but this one I think it’s coz I had a young child too back when it happened and that makes me angry too. Hopefully she’s lived a good life and the husband helped her get through it. Xxxx

[@lw3646]

When I was abroad 3 gypsies tried to mug me, one had a knife but I got away on my bike.

[@acotbc]

Thankfully, the case at 40:42, the rape of a mother and daughter in Northolt, was solved and a man was given five life sentences in November 1998. Unfortunately, the mother's older daughter died from accidental drowning two weeks before the sentencing.

[@ajs41]

That's sad news, about the drowning.

[@Debi_Ldon]

Remember watching crime watch every month 80s/90s when i were a child Always looked forward to it Hoping i might of seen anyone i may of known Now watching these again tales me down memory lane Some of these crimes I remember like it were yesterday 😢

[@almadavis8274]

It took a female among all the men to have the robbers run off. Props to her fearful foiling of this robbery.

[@fluxington]

What a hero - or maybe she just acted on her emotions without considering the risks.

[@CARLIN4737]

Birds you cant live with em and cant do a robbery with em freaking it up either.

[@weaponofmassconstruction1940]

The first robbery case fails to mention that another 20 drivers all pulled up and simultaneously shouted "Well well well what do we 'ave 'ere then!?"

[@xlr82u]

Unsolved crimes are really strangely fascinating. I was only a youngster when these events happened but it's really interesting to see old footage around the UK before the everything went a bit mad. 33:04 ahhh look at those prices, and 4 star fuel still available 😍😍

[@ajs41]

Couldn't agree more. Glad you like watching them. I was 17 when this video was aired. Interesting time, the 1990s.

[@ashleymartin4512]

knowing this episode was going to be opened by jill dando really makes you think about what happened to her two years later.......

[@TheMarlinspike]

"electronic mail" lol

[@CARLIN4737]

Thats Fedex i think?

[@Skerr1983]

Love it when soap actors pop up in these reconstructions.

[@86compgeek]

Fair play to the good samarthans in the attempted hijack reconstruction. A lot of people wouldn't have got involved.

[@mad-pit3832]

All good until someone gets hurt whilst trying to interfere in a crime, then they are all over the press labelled as poor civilians that were just going about their day when an evil criminal hurt them for no reason. Have ago heros should stay out of these situations, they love the attention when it goes to plan and everyone is applauding them whilst they tell the stories of how tough they are. But when it goes wrong they are on shows like this crying that they cant work for how ever many months, and complaining that they are scared to go out.

[@Jimbo-gi7xn]

I drove for P&H out of Snodland back then as young new driver, that could've been me getting robbed 😕

[@Jimbo-gi7xn]

@Lt Brook yes mate

[@JuiceTerry87]

What would they have done with all the crisps and chocolate on board? 😂

[@Peter-ix1ym]

Started an illegal tuck shop

[@charlottejade8056]

Good work mate keep em coming 👋🏼

[@golgotha3938]

12:58 dominik szoboszlai

[@RipperBravo]

I actually remember the e-fits from this one all those years ago. Horrible bastards.

[@Bono305]

Well I wouldn't go anywhere at night with my headphones on

[@CharlieEdward25]

dam son u got some real gems here never seen them ether :-) madness

[@lukewilly]

She kept hold of the beers from the offy.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Well spotted.

[@Thenorthsace]

I saw someone messing with my neighbours car... that i have never seen before so i’ll just go back inside and not say fuck all about it to them

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

How do you know the woman and her neighbour were on good terms at the time of the theft? Certain people where I live - I'd be... hesitant...to inform them of something that I might have witnessed. The eventual significance of the car theft might also have left her feeling indifferent about reporting it also (at that point in time). Years ago, a friend of mine told me, that if they were to see anything happen to _my_ car, they would tell me first. I told them that they're first to get in touch with the police, because there is a greater opportunity of a favourable outcome if the car, and/or the vandal(s), are apprehended.

[@pcadamtaylor4262]

Why are they always on the phone when only a few people would even know about it lol

[@Thenorthsace]

Cases from months ago maybe

[@Rob-ws2kh]

Go on Paddy! Haha

[@theculturedthug6609]

Was that little girl at the start ever found?

[@ajs41]

Sadly she was found in a river shortly after this programme was broadcast. Recent news report: www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/national-news/19262516.man-raped-murdered-nine-year-old-girl-denied-parole/

[@theculturedthug6609]

@@ajs41 Jesus.

[@theculturedthug6609]

What did the attempted hijackers of the lorry want with a load of confectionery😂

[@Yesman10]

Can’t believe the bloke was on his mates shoulder having a tug in Prestatyn 😳

[@sdeee3842]

1:02 wow but not yours 2 years later 😧

[@charlottejade8056]

26:50 sounds like Lilly savage

[@Kill--alllll---IDF]

Ha ha ha class. ..

[@paulbain9262]

Looks and sounds like Barrie chuckle

[@Kill--alllll---IDF]

@@paulbain9262 ha ha

[@daniellebishop5599]

Paddy from emmerdale 1st reconstruction

[@andrewsmith2757]

You got a Nicam Stereo VCR at last? 👌

[@paulbain9262]

@26:36 Barrie chuckle from the chuckle brothers 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Wilsson02]

Can you upload the Crimewatch special report on the milk carton kids please?

[@ajs41]

Is that one missing from my Crimewatch playlist? I've put every programme I know about on that playlist.

[@saulwest8254]

33:06 58p per litre of petrol. ⛽👌

[@WitchingMel]

Wtf is a little 9 year old doing wandering around town at that time of night?!

[@CARLIN4737]

11.17..Thats not a South Eastern accent? Thats a South London accent possibly South East London accent. Bermondsey perhaps that area..Old kent road.

[@CARLIN4737]

Brilliant comment. Spot on. Classic.

[@CARLIN4737]

magic comment.

[@FallenAngel53]

26:29 😅😂 Fancy setting fire to a forensic unit only to leave loads of your own stuff for forensics 😂😅

[@lw3646]

Should've used a magnet...

[@simonmessenger7217]

Anytime I think of the 90's I think of great times. Whenever I watch these from the early to mid-90's I think, wow, things were even more fucked up than they are today haha

[@ajs41]

Crimewatch is interesting but it isn't representative of what was going on at the time.

[@rs-qt1qg]

Now you've got CCTV everywhere (well most places, including people's own homes of course) and the digital age has changed the way we live. It's impossible to get away with most of the stuff that happened back then

[@markshaw270]

@@ajs41 it was worse

[@user-zr3pj5tk7k]

Have you not been out in the last 25 years? Ridiculous.

[@michealhand1001]

The prisons are Bulging with prisoners,and what with importing gangsters and rapists and murderers .it,s much worse now imho.

[@porcupinefizzy2908]

What music is it at 16:44?

[@ajs41]

Get Ready For This by 2 Unlimited.

[@etherealdreams7936]

9:07 Bradley Wiggins.

[@happyhero1985]

17:25 what the heck. That must have been a weird sight.

[@RipperBravo]

I only just realised after going back and studying it, one guy is on another’s shoulders. Wtf. He must have had his cock out on the other guys head ?!?!

[@TheOne-fe8wk]

___ Arch lmao that made me laugh out loud. He really had a cock on his shoulder 😂😂

[@traceybull]

-----Arch, he was a proper "Dickhead !" 😂 😂😂😮

[@stuartsmeets3346]

so bizarre !!! perverted slimeballs

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

And she said it was more than indecent exposure, you have to ask yourself if he was coming.

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

Really hope they found Kaylie Xx

[@09weenic]

Sadly not - her body was found shortly after John O ‘ Shaughnessey who stayed in the same hostel as Kayleigh’s family was sentenced to life imprisonment

[@suzanneharris6865]

So sad

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

@@09weenic so sad rest in peace little angel Xx 😢

[@AACE73]

Poor little girl was raped & murdered by the monster she thought was a family friend. Thankfully he was recently denied parole.

[@AACE73]

Jacqui looked amazing for having just had a baby!!

[@AACE73]

Poor little girl was raped & murdered by the monster she thought was a family friend. Thankfully he was recently denied parole.

[@ryandaly1146]

Hi Andy how many more years do you have? I like watching the old repeats of these

[@ajs41]

Not sure, I've got a collection of old tapes. But quite a few. Should be able to fill in most of the gaps that redcard74 has.

[@andrewsmith2757]

@@ajs41 - Do you have the July and August 1996 episodes? I would like to see the one where they reconstruct the murders of Lynn and Megan Russell. They re-appeal in July 1997 as well which also isn't on here.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@andrewsmith2757 Doesn't it take a break during these months, and recommence in September?

[@andrewsmith2757]

@@treasurehunteruk9718 - I don't remember them taking a break. I know there's July and August 1996 episodes as I remember them from the original broadcasts. Do you have copies of them?

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Sometimes they did, I can remember Nick saying we'll be back in September, but I have seen August episodes too. Perhaps there was a lot of crime that year. They had the summer roadshows, during those months.

[@ryandaly1146]

I am wondering how many years redcard has. I hope he has 1991-2006

[@ajs41]

I'm uploading episodes from 94, 95, 96 and 97. I don't have all of them though.

[@barbarasmith7663]

The rape of the mother and daughter is one of the most tragic cases I've ever seen on crimewatch. They were visiting over Christmas at the elder daughter's flat. The elder daughter was out that night, and had secretly fallen into prostitution due to mental health issues triggered by the suicide of her father. The rapist, William "Billy" Kenealy, is believed to have possibly been a client of hers. The attack on the mother and 9 year old daughter is too terrible to repeat. The girl blamed herself for what happened to her mother and little sister and committed suicide a year later during Kenealy's trial, aged just 20.

[@michaelcannon2434]

What’s a south eastern accent

[@ajs41]

Surrey, Sussex, Kent, Bucks, Herts.

[@AndyPandy-sj9bl]

​@ajs41 Essex and London too although they may also say London or Cockney if its from London - lots of variations between them too

[@billywatts4689]

Are you slow?

[@talkfastclifford4381]

7:16 Paddy from emmerdale???

[@K123-x7f]

Any crimewatch from 2006/2008 ?

[@wearecity]

Was this the first mention, of an email address for the show?

[@ajs41]

Probably.

[@RogerJJSmith]

No, the first mention was at the end of the previous episode, Dec 1996.

[@ajs41]

@@RogerJJSmith Thanks Roger.

[@88rtd]

Anyone else notice u can see the husband at 21:50 stood waiting to open the door through the glass

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

He decided that he could play PlayStation better stood up in the vestibule.

[@ryandaly1146]

Hi Andy do you have anymore Crimewatch episodes?

[@ajs41]

Yes I do, I'll be uploading anyone one later tonight.

[@MegaMarie]

lol women just grabbed the keys, why they even bother

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

How stunning is that girl behind Ross at 22:40

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Remember this is 24 years ago. She is knocking on a bit now.

[@Belta-kw2bm]

Did they find that little girl? I wasn’t much old then her myself. I hope they found her

[@NoirFan84]

They did. In the river about a month after this aired, she'd been raped & strangled, sadly.

[@connynielson8686]

she was successfully traffiked yes.

[@ajs41]

@@NoirFan84 The man who did it was denied parole earlier this year. www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/national-news/19262516.man-raped-murdered-nine-year-old-girl-denied-parole/

[@mad-pit3832]

@@connynielson8686 How was she "trafficked".

[@connynielson8686]

@@mad-pit3832 because they're taking photos of her beforehand like she's a criminal that's why

[@deluxewaterless7229]

All the crime watches prior to her death featuring Jill Dando, who would think in April 1999 she would be assassinated and murdered on her door step , the programmer would be featuring a reconstruction to try and find her killer, Barry George was wrongly convicted and all these years on the killers have not been found which is odd re CCTV, and phone technology

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

Ray-Pest , watch your back in jail mate . Some crimes are not "approved of " by other inmates .

[@killieguyno1]

PADDY!!!!

[@TheMarlinspike]

Don't understand how they linked the two guys at the window with the rapist....

[@simonpitt8145]

yeah, seems a tenuous link to me as well. Not sure the artists impressions are that similar either

[@devvxvi]

DNA evidence linked both.

[@RogerJJSmith]

@@simonpitt8145 They seem fairly similar to me (the e-fits).

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@devvxvi How did the men in the window leave DNA? They did not come into contact with the woman .

[@MsVanorak]

@@devvxvi how so? what trace did the gym flasher leave behind?

[@DaphnyTheHumanSaysHi]

Wonder if they ever caught whoever gave Nick Ross his cold this episode

[@bowjana8128]

Did the bums in the robbery ever get caught

[@rutter1ify]

PlayStation one would have just come out then😂 I had that game too💯

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

I love the fake "enjoyment" face he pulls at 20:26! 🤣 As if the BBC licence fee payer is expected to have to sit down and take time out of their day to observe that actually happening. Were you as excited to play that game as he was??

[@TheDENTAGE]

Looks like political correctness has hit, no calling out skin colour on criminals as far back as this?

[@ajs41]

Oh yeah, I remember political correctness affecting programmes as early as 1992/93 or thereabouts, although it was mainly a bit later in the 90s like this programme. When the Croydon nightstalker was on Crimewatch, they didn't say he was black even though it had already been reported that he was.

[@TheDENTAGE]

Andy JS Must be good to get a pass because you cry racism

[@dickiegreenleaf750]

Only if white

[@ashleymartin4512]

may jill dando the golden girl of the nation....rest in peace....

[@djoseph7178]

This is how I travel to Europe 😅

[@FallenAngel53]

33:07 Jaysus 😱 the price of fuel then ⛽️ 😮😂

[@IndigoJo]

Those were the days, unleaded for 58.9p a litre!

[@jameswallwork2493]

Its Paddy he's a long way from Yorkshire ha ha Does anyone know if they got anyone for that attack on the Wetherby Forensics lab its truly shocking feel so bad for all the people who's evidence was lost for their case.

[@huyiii2435]

19.26 it's lt.Columbo

[@t238]

petrol prices at @33:13 loool 60p a litre!!!!

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

These armed robberies and hijackings are getting boring. I am starting to fast forward over them.

[@ajs41]

A lot of people seem to think the show started to get less interesting around this time, in about 1997/98 or thereabouts.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@ajs41 I still like it, but armed robberies are all the same. The individual cases are much more personal and interesting. It is a shame Sue left, I preferred her, but life goes on.

[@MsVanorak]

@@treasurehunteruk9718 it's not so much that sue has gone but that they have changed the structure of the show. before it was clearly structured into a recap and report on previous items, 3 x reconstructions, incident desk, aladdin's cave and photo call so the viewer was prepared for a slow building story or some quick fire questions/information. now it is all over the place with a busy distracting set - what does that set represent exactly.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@MsVanorak They've definitely gone in for the whacky music and dramatic effects. It's also longer now, and they have the 'how the crime was solved' slot at the end which Matthew does, which is good cos it is encouraging to see results. I suppose times move on. Most folks did not like Aladdin's cave. Boring and took too much time.

[@mad-pit3832]

@@treasurehunteruk9718 Jill left aswell.

[@ashleymartin4512]

the incident at 20:32 onwards really is a nasty horrendous crime the person responsible for it is a hideous monster beast and needs to be caught...

[@connynielson8686]

jill was the veronica guerin of her time

[@chrissaunders6144]

Have you got the case Of beckton teenager Daniel handley as it as stuck with me as I lived right near him

[@ajs41]

If you know which episode it was, I might be able to find it.

[@chrissaunders6144]

Think it was may 1995 mate

[@ajs41]

@@robertnunn265 Not sure, I'll see.

[@ajs41]

@@chrissaunders6144 If May 1995 hasn't been uploaded yet, I might see if I can upload it next.

[@chrissaunders6144]

@@ajs41 thanks Andy

[@chasey2327]

when these crims get described as 'gaunt' the police should know they're likely to be smackheads.

[@TomTremayne]

At 34:27 "Scientific evidence suggests a Volkswagon Golf had also been parked here" - what sort of 'scientific evidence' could that be??

[@FallenAngel53]

29:01 😢😢 not much more than one year later Jill Dando was executed on her front door step 😢

[@mariafelices8000]

Translate , Jesus will forgive.

[@jonathan75801]

Looks the same person as Ashley from Emmerdale. 7:17 Weird.

[@arranle]

Why do these people send lil kids off to the chipshop?

[@WitchingMel]

08:00 Paddy!

[@ryandaly1146]

Aww brill

[@mariafelices8000]

Zurutuza

[@futureisgosub]

There is an edition from the late 90s that I had on tape and cannot find which had a crazy reconstruction about a drunk guy unable to get a taxi home, a couple befriends him, he takes them home, gives them drinks, he wakes up in morning to find they stole his car and it was later used in a robbery on a jewellers shop

[@ajs41]

Sounds interesting, I wonder which episode it was.

[@futureisgosub]

Almost certain it was early 1999

[@ajs41]

@@futureisgosub Sometimes the BBC Genome website has details of what is on each programme, if you want to have a search on there.

[@rs-qt1qg]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2apn2uMh5emqrM

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

I watched it recently. It is on YT, but don't know the year.

[@danielknight9956]

Him off Emerdale init

[@RexBanner_]

I've always wondered, are the people who sit by the tables actors? You know, the ones who pretend to be busy either by writting something or by being on the phones? Or are they real police?

[@ajs41]

Real police.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Some are BBC presenters, for folks who don't want to talk to the police.

[@Yesman10]

Pretty sure the actor playing the rapist in Prestatyn played the part of a rapist in London who raped a lady in Notting Hill. Can’t remember which episode now but the victim a white Porsche and her father had just died a few days before the incident. The rapist drove a Japanese car and sold the victims watch after the rape. Which episode was it

[@Yesman10]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZq1ZWigrp2SatUsi=6GKVQW1NWgjbGySR 2m 14s

[@cashcrop70]

If there's one thing watching Crimewatch has taught me is how to pronounce the word 'direct'. How wrong I was!

[@harold_Shitmum]

What?

[@cashcrop70]

@@harold_Shitmum If I remember correctly they pronounced it dee-rect, not die-rect.

[@harold_Shitmum]

@@cashcrop70 no, never, not in the uk anyway, I don't know about other English speaking countries though.

[@Thenorthsace]

Who cares it’s just a word

[@ajs41]

@@cashcrop70 Some people say dee-rect but usually it's die-rect.

[@mariafelices8000]

Snow flakes

[@hashtag_thisguy]

Spring showers

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Misty mornings.

[@johnmaclagan2263]

shout out for Dundee