Ideas Behind Prefabricated Housing Planning - Cities: Skylines - Altengrad 64

[@christopher6740]

I truly love these videos. The amount of work in researching historical information is obvious, and the quality and resourcefulness of the builds go far beyond what I would expect. It feels like I am watching a high end documentary but in cities skylines. Good job!

[@hermantenkate8452]

6:42 Fun fact about this neighborhood in Amsterdam is that Betondorp literally translates as Concrete Village. But it's mostly known because Johan Cruyff was born and raised there.

[@beaneske]

In Germany we call the concrete prefabricated Buildings "Plattenbau" which translates to plate building bc of the concrete plates :)

[@j.koppany]

Im a simple man, i see Altengrad, i click.

[@danonck]

I see Altengrad, I press "like", then I start the video.

[@FC-iq6cs]

Love love LOVE Altengrad since Ep.1! Congrats Akruas, this is the best City Skylines series on YT! My question is: Is there any chance that Altengrad will host the Summer Olympic Games in the future? Not really historically accurate, but it would be so fun to watch and see how the city might evolve and transform because of such a huge event - from transportation to stadium and sport venues, from the Olympic Village to the Olympic Cauldron!

[@ghostd00r]

Great way to kickstart the 80s then

[@blakemonkey769]

The entire premise of this series is wonderful, and I learn so much about something I never knew I was interested in every time an episode drops. I'm always excited for a shift forward in style and the idea of it looking newly built down to the tiny young trees is just great.

[@jemsyago7163]

I always enjoyed your commentary, your voice is soothing enough that I can kinda just sit back and listen to 30 or even more minutes of you just speaking. But I never expected you to have great historical commentary like this, where it's clear you scripted what you are supposed say, and thus you try to be as concise with what you say as you could. The best part is how I really enjoy this kind of commentary, so I would def love to see you try and make more educational sort of content, although that'll be difficult to make especially with a weekly schedule like what you're doing. This kind of educational commentary is another reason I really love the Altengrad series, even though the city is already as interesting as it is.

[@AdamBurianek92]

As a native Slovak, born in Bratislava (the capital), I believe that Petržalka is an ultimate showcase of prefab housing... in fact, it's the biggest neighbourhood made of concrete prefab buildings in the country, possibly in the whole former Czechoslovakia (correct me if I'm wrong, though)... anyway, I love this series, very inspiring. :)

[@danonck]

Ahh, the nostalgia. Now it feels like my childhood, being born and raised in one of these prefab towers in a 200k population town in Poland. I'm glad that I no longer live there though. Incredible episode, as always. It's a highlight of my day whenever I see a new video from Altengrad.

[@RhineYT]

Wonderful episode and series

[@centur7942]

Jen se u smývám když se na to koukám, já jako kluk z paneláku z toho mám úplně divný pocit, tak nostalgické a uvěřitelné, no prostě je to hezký. A nevím proč, ale ty garáže to tak strašně dotahují do dokonalosti. Už se nemůžu dočkat kam tahle serie dojde, taková malá Praha, zajímalo by mě jestli do toho zakomponuješ nějaké bourání ohledně výstavbě magistrály skrz jádro města. Pokračuj v tom co děláš.👍

[@Honza135]

Už jsem si říkal, že je divný, že pod takovým pěkným projektem nenajdu žádný český komentář. Především, když autor je Čech. Jeho práce s historickým vývojem města mě velmi těší.

[@Dirty.H]

Production of building materials is a problem too. Here in NZ the supply is so far behind the demand that time and cost rule the roost. We should be focusing also on better/more sustainable materials. Great episode!

[@the_babbleboom]

once the greenery started taking over in the 80s these places were really pretty, it was like living in a park and felt even more closer to nature than my time living rural in some very flat place surrounded with nothing but fields and the occasional lake with forest

[@setsuko6243]

I missed Altengrad so much!! Thank you for these videos!

[@sebastiankalman9097]

I'm an architect in Bucharest and a former heavy SimCity 4 player. ( BAT, Lot and detail ) Now I'm studying Procedural Objects in Skylines for a return to the field and I ended up here by chance. From the architect: Kudos! From the player: Kudos!

[@db6842]

Your work with PO is intimidating lol. Really love your commentary in this video. Great content. Thank you

[@PM-vv3uc]

When I need new ideas for my new Cities:Skylines projects, I always look for videos from Akruas. Thank you!

[@jubmelahtes]

I actually really like these kinds of areas, sure the blocks are bland but to have such vast green areas and air around them which really is so much better than most modern developments

[@pistakrk4888]

Nice eisode:)) But what I would think that could add some realism, or just little bit of more detail is adding birch trees. As far as I know they were popular choice to these freshly builded projects, because they grow faster then any other leafy trees :))

[@PremDaiii]

one of my favourite series on KZbin! amazing episode again, enjoyed it a lot :))

[@ENFORCJW]

I get Prague vibes from this build. Never have I felt this way from a cities video

[@h3r3t1c3]

Cities Skylines videos with a whole ass reference list in the video description, really awesome content!

[@pokemilfhunter622]

This episode is so cool!! I cannot wait to see more of the prefab housing and its development in the 70s and 80s

[@derlaurenz]

I love your videos. I live in Berlin and mom is from former East Berlin and the whole Altengrad series remind me of a Dresden, Leipzig, Prague-esque kinda development. Kudos

[@alupigus20]

You should merge the farmlands outside the city. During collectivization, the various privately-owned plots of land were merged into becoming bigger plots with the purpose of serving the state. Anyway, amazing job!

[@daven4297]

Great job as always, but I have some sugestion. In Poland in 60's or 70's when build prefab building, also planted lot, lot of the trees in front od buildings, and behind them. Shops, schools, health care and technical infrastructure were also built, such as switching stations for electricity, heating, etc. Of course, there were playgrounds between the blocks, e.g. a slide, a sandpit, swings, etc. Here is missing all this stuff. :)

[@Akruas]

Because the place was just built, look how new estates in Krakow looked in 1970 msip.um.krakow.pl/kompozycje/ and school, shops, electric buildings are there, so are trees, just small.

[@Tebus1215]

Super videa o historii evropské architektury + parádní návod na stavby v Cities Skylines :D

[@4rbitrage4ndy]

Hope to see you again soon Akruas!

[@purplebeamcz]

I love these buildings nice work

[@vindilt]

I've been looking forward to a new episode, I love this series, its really interesting with all the history and back stories. Thank you and please don't stop

[@mario200498]

We need more. Really appreciate you work!!

[@TehWever]

What a wonderful barrage of knowledge. Faved.

[@RobertDoornbosF1]

14:30 not going to lie. I do this a lot, even thought I know the differences and calling them soviet is dumb. When with friends and you come across these places, they'll automatically call it "commie blocks" as we say it here. Easier to go with it then explain it to them.

[@definitelyahuman5663]

There’s a book company you might like, I recently got two of their books, they’re called Zupagrafika and they make books on architecture in post soviet Europe, it’s very interesting plus they also provide 3d models you can make of certain buildings!

[@shangarghaffari5650]

Love the history story telling!

[@PizazN]

The commentary make it easier to watch the repititions of buildins for sure

[@lassehauerwaas3078]

"I'm not that crazy! Except for some plazas..."

[@NicolasDominique]

Another splendid episode. I live in one of those prefabricated buildings, but from the 70s. Needless to say that even so it's prefabricated building, its walls are all over the place. And it this episode I can see things which happened in my city, like how the planned Socialist Realism is mixed with that cheaper prefab buildings just around the corner.

[@greggoncharov5287]

yeeeesssssss finally an altengrad episode!!!

[@hoholu4650]

Love this series!

[@kosedek805]

If you enjoy creating assets and it's either videos or assets, I'm sure many people would love to see how you create them with your voiceover and you wouldn't have to choose :)

[@zerk16]

holy crap dude i am just.... totally speechles. bravo!

[@TobbySkylines]

This is so much more than a Cities Skylines series!

[@maman_2106]

I would like to see a trolleybus system in Altengrad

[@joenuts5167]

Yesss

[@1894db]

Are you going to build a non-urban population somewhere on this map? I've often heard that the USSR focused a lot on the big population centers and ignored rural areas, leaving them very poor. Don't know if that's true for any of the Soviet block outside of Russia though, so that might not fit on your map. Either way amazing work!

[@danonck]

For example, in Poland the state nationalised farms and estates and turned them into the so called PGR (State Agricultural Farm). They ended up being a complete failure and resulted in rising poverty in the rural areas, especially after the fall of communism when they were no longer subsidised.

[@heresj5105]

Love it as much as it seems to short ahah !

[@Ponyalaa]

It would be pretty realistic to build more stroads

[@Bionickpunk]

Ironically, most prefab and brutalist housing neighborhoods now are the most greenest livable areas of any city that has them. Lots of trees and general public green spaces expands what would be separated park area by integrating it within the residential living area, lowering the noise and air pollution, on top of having a space for families, kids, and elderly to relax within the walking distance of their homes, schools, and other essential areas. Also designs of prefabs and brutalist buildings differ depending on the architect, country and decades when they were built, so you could see some truly wonderful and visual appealing stuff being done with exposed concrete that aint just wide boxes with windows. Not only that but these buildings last, far beyond a lot of modern constructions.

[@idc1347]

favourite series

[@likematters5568]

Nice Build!

[@lexuga1935]

When is the city going to have a metro system? I think i saw you place a metro station in the minute 8:05

[@Akruas]

I used it as a shop.

[@AxoiTanner]

What about playgrounds between buildings? At least in Poland those were super common. Most parents were able to see their children playing from windows. This was population boom time - so way more kids than today -> more kids infrastructure everywhere.

[@Akruas]

20:50

[@AxoiTanner]

@@Akruas not all - at least one ZWM, (widokowe) in Trzebinia was made with playgrounds in the same time, and some other in that area too. My patents(who were growing up there, in that time) actually told me that playgrounds were there first and my parents were sneaking to those “not open yet” playgrounds from older brick blocks they were living at that time. Also, to all placem I know garages were added years later - like 70s when cars became popular. Maybe this building infrastructure in the same time is just Polish thing. But this is way as those prefab housing areas were as they were just build here.

[@Akruas]

@@AxoiTanner Well, as you say - not all. I obviously cannot make one district that will incorporate every single element from every real-life housing estate and be exactly like everyone remembers their own all at once. If I don't do playgrounds or garages someone will always be like "but they were there from the start!" and if I do then someone else will say "but they weren't there from the start!".

[@AxoiTanner]

@@Akruas this sounds real - I just had bias that “if all I know were this way it was this way”, but I learned that… not everywhere, than you for this. :) maybe one of next prefabs districts, if you plan more, can have playgrounds from start just to show that it was done both ways? Also, that place I mentioned, widokowe/zwm in Trzebinia is nice example of blocks placed on quite step hill - and how they used terrain it to give residents more sun time and less “looking in each other windows” despite building in challenging terrain - it might be nice to show that central planners did things that probably won’t be done by developers today. And they placed bathrooms/kitchens/staircases on “bad view side” and living rooms/bedrooms on “sunny side” of those prefabs. I hope this might became small inspiration. :)

[@magicalninja777]

Love these videos as always, but lately due to the large amount of (truly interesting and valuable) historical information, it’s sometimes hard to stay engaged with the timelapse, and I feel like we miss out on you telling us what particular buildings are meant to be/your thought process behind placing certain buildings. Maybe it would be cool to try having a short historical info section at the beginning of the video to provide context for the later Timelapse.

[@ai97Nord]

Good video Akruas as always. (Notes 1.7k views in just 1 hour, damm)

[@petjuh1985]

Super interesting!! Thanks for all the information about city development history :-) just one question: why did you choose to build a curved road around the new area?

[@Akruas]

Why not.

[@petjuh1985]

@@Akruas haha I agree but I was just wondering because the rest of the area is so rectangular :-)

[@sirmax0618]

Hey love your series, do you by any chance have an assets collection on the steam workshop?

[@tonyjc1575]

Amazing video! In the case of the roads, by 1970 would you bite the bullet and carpet-change all of them to use concrete/asphalt instead of bricks?

[@РобертВуд-ъ3ю]

the author extended the tram to the area, in the 60s the tram was still actively extended until the era of trolleybuses began in the 70s, by the way, are there trolleybuses and subways in the game?

[@РобертВуд-ъ3ю]

and by the way, usually in such areas in the middle of the blocks there were schools, kindergartens on the outskirts of the hospital, in the buildings there were signs like a hairdresser, meat, milk, fish, household goods, as well as playgrounds with horizontal bars

[@РобертВуд-ъ3ю]

the trams that drive are the three-door Tatra T3 model from the 70s

[@dadude405]

how does he still not have 100k subs?

[@williambouchardon3706]

Great video as always. Do you intend to build a huge sport complex at some point ? I was thinking of something akin to Prague's Strahov stadium or Katowice stadium.

[@mathieugariepy2948]

Great video!

[@rubnicf2203]

Your videos make my day.

[@widecarman1147]

Hi, great video! I was wondering if you were planning on building a soviet style metro, kind of like Prauge has with a Tram and Metro system.

[@kian_de_gamer1638]

Do you know the exact length of the altengrad racing circuit? I would like to make an expansion and modern version of it but I can"t to that without knowing the length.

[@Akruas]

2.7 km

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@Akruas. Speaking of that racetrack, it really should be getting some updates both on the technological side of things and the track itself: It's extremely outdated, and that poor crashed race car has been burning for over 30 years at this point.

[@kgv6483]

You are amazing. thank You.

[@georgeowen2553]

Did anyone else spot some subway stations going in? Will there be an underground metro line in the future?

[@MiggyCR]

This city gives me very much Ville de Québec

[@Siegerzkranz]

Really what it is, is that people think Brutalism is ugly, and pre-fab housing blocks are ugly, and they occured at similar times in similar places, so they conflate the two different sets of principles under the same name, because they create a similar reaction

[@thenightczmapping6140]

hello Akuras, Will you ever make more prefabs from the central europe?

[@flameoguy]

What's with the big grey sports field?

[@Sir.suspicious]

Simply amazing, I mean, the city was already amazing, but listening to the architecture discussion was really awesome, the ideas of socialist realism and sotsgorod were always something that caught my attention, although they get a bad rep, I feel there was a lot of thought put into making cities liveable and comfortable for people, especially with the abundance of green spaces

[@ulysse2145]

good quality

[@konrad4180]

when will be tram lapse?

[@trebuh]

This, i'd love a 'drivers view' perhaps when more of the city is complete.

[@silvernia1713]

does anyone know what theme he uses

[@TheNewOrder-DaysOfConflict]

Wonder how Altengrad would look like in 1970s

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Only Akruas knows, though it'll likely be a real treat to see.

[@pyrox4549]

Akraus Can you please tell me your pc setup ?? cause i check your abut page said you have 1060 6 gb which i have too but how your games run soo smooth when mine runs at 13 fps ??? is it ram related cause mine is 16 gb your is 32 should i increase mine ??? please reply...

[@Akruas]

The video is recorded slow and made faster in editing, the game does not run like this in real time.

[@pyrox4549]

@@Akruas thanks for the reply so there is no way to improve the fps we are doomed..

[@pman8841]

You could build a small airport 😅

[@Panticapaeum]

Cool man

[@PaTVanBooM]

take a look at my hometown eisenhüttenstadt and read the story about it. a planned city was created on paper based on the socialist and soviet model.

[@N00N01]

A building has many thousands of thousands of bricks, and its sooo slow to build, why not have many large bricks that are easy to swap out back and fourth and make, wich can be placed together in record time

[@Ardour_of_A_Leopard]

Why would anyone want to live so close to other people? I live in something that resembels those and life is a hell. Noisy all the time (music, fights, dogs, kids, doors banging, machinery working) No greenery at all, just cement everywhere. The neibours want your cat dead to satisfy their miserable existence. Cars everywhere, even blocking the complex's entrance. Fear of being attacked. Fear of the dememtia-stricken granpa setting his house on fire (lives one breath away from you so both apartments will perish). Lights are everywhere, making it difficult to sleep at night.

[@chatnoir1224]

Depends on quality of the materials. I lived in brick built khrushevka. No noise, no smeel from neighbours. Flat was small, but for young couple it was fine. Green is everywhere. Soviet microdistricts were built with green space planning. There were places where you feel like you are in a forest, though subway station is in 5 min walk. Cars are problem. Soviet city planners didn't think that every family will have a car. Where you live?

[@YuryPozdneev]

Yeeeey panelkiiiiii

[@arandominternetperson4462]

Altengrad more like Panelengrad

[@logangraham6742]

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[@SkyIsThere.]

u can think im weird but central europe for example Poland which is my home country benefits from comunistic era of city building. communistic cities are very well planned, there is alot of space, green areas and they are very well connected in terms of traffic. i live in UK, and everything feels so much crowded and narrow here. i almost suffocating here...

[@georgebennett715]

I've never been to a Socialist planned city but I'd wager I agree with you. My nearest city here in the UK: Plymouth was bombed very heavily during WW2 so the whole city center was rebuilt in a planned, pseudo-socialist manner and it works very well! Much more pleasant to navigate!

[@SkyIsThere.]

@@georgebennett715 interesting i will visit!

[@WilhelmImperatorRex]

Very nice video indeed and a lot of very good information in there. But i recognized you did one significant mistake with the new housing district concerning modern planing principles. You aligned all buildings with their acess side to the street, while one of the important principles was the way to orient buildings not only to the streets, but to the cardinal points. The living rooms where to be oriented to west/south, while the sleeping would have to be oriented to north/east. This would give your new district a radical new look, as the streets wold not be aligned by the same sort of facade as in the doctrine of the socialist realism stile and would show the new way of planing/living much more. 😉

[@Akruas]

There are many places where that's not the case. Besides, that's the whole point. I'm not going to build one area where every single modernist principle will be applied. Just like in real life the estates did not look all the same.

[@WilhelmImperatorRex]

@@Akruas Okay, i might have to take look at more eastern examples. So far all i know where at least trying to do it. 🤷‍♂️

[@TheOmegakix]

Oh yeaa

[@TheOmegakix]

Hey i just realised something, is there a hospital in Altengrad? And should this be a perfect era to build one? Socialism was famous by building public services like hospitals and schools, kindergardens.... at least here in Croatia (Ex yu) This new prefab area is just missing elementary school and some small infirmary (family medicine)

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

There was a hospital focused episode a while back, but that was in the 1930's. There would definitely be a new hospital for the city by this time.

[@betonitorni5041]

about this cobblestone, how about paving stone instead? there are a few themes that have deliberate pavement styles as paving stone, not just plain concrete or old-looking cobblestone. i think if chosen wisely it would fit older parts of the city quite nicely and wouldn't look so off in newer areas (as an example i think of new caledonia theme, but i bet there are some others which would suit)

[@BlueKingNL]

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